Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom

From Klaus Haus Productions, featuring Tom Klaus and Lamar Roth
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A "3rd Space" is a space where two or more people with differing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. In this podcast two lifelong friends, Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus, carve out a Third Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. Getting to Third Space with Lamar & Tom features an exploration of how to talk with one another about significant, even controversial, issues with grace and humor. Occasionally Lamar & Tom will welcome guests to the show.

  1. S4E4 - A Conversation with Liz Weaver

    FEB 17

    S4E4 - A Conversation with Liz Weaver

    Liz Weaver joins Lamar and Tom in this episode of Getting to 3rd Space to talk about collaboration, trust, and transitions. Liz retired recently from her role as Co-CEO of Tamarack Institute in Waterloo, Ontario, Canada. Tamarack is known for its work in catalyzing collective action with diverse leaders to solve major community challenges including ending poverty, building youth futures, building belonging, and addressing climate change in cities and communities, within Canada, and around the world.  Liz Weaver spent a significant part of her career with Tamarack where she led teams in creating resources, facilitating change initiatives, and 34,000 learners and members to do the same.  In this long-form conversation, Liz, Lamar, and Tom talk about how facilitators can build trust and create collaboration between and among individuals holding diverse ideas. They also discuss Liz’s recent research and publication on workplace transitions and, of course, acts of kindness. Learn More From Tamarack Institute:  Resource HubCollaboration: The Act of Building TrustThe Collaborative OrganizationLiz’s transition guide: The Human Side of Workplace Transitions Other Facilitation Resources  CoCreative ConsultingLiberating StructuresSession LabFor Knitters 1898 Fisherman’s Knit Hat (sorry, Tom called it the 1892 hat) A 3rd Space Survey: Acts of Kindness Kindness seems out of vogue right now. But we don’t believe that to be true. We believe there are a lot of people in our world who are choosing kindness even in the face of cruelty. Do you have an act of kindness that you’d be willing to share? You can participate through a Google Forms Survey at this link: https://forms.gle/5NQakn6bgeXpm2us5 There you will find two kindness questions we’d like you to consider and then respond to: What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you? What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life? What do we do with the acts we learn about in this survey? We save them and feature them in our Thanksgiving show each year…anonymously unless you prefer we use your name. Finally, please share this survey because an act of kindness shared begets others. How We Check Ourselves Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself: Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/  FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/  Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/ RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/  Reuters FactCheck - https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/  Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage: Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive  Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics?  Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com. Credits: Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc.  Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and https://www.rothimages.com/ Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2025. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: hello@klaushausllc.com.  No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed. Recorded using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA and Ontario, Canada; Original Publishing Date, February 17, 2026.

    1h 28m
  2. S4E3 - Snoping Around

    FEB 3

    S4E3 - Snoping Around

    When you are wondering about rumors, conspiracy theories, folklore, fake news, and urban legends, who ya gonna call? Not us…but how about Snopes.com? Today Lamar and Tom start by talking about the upcoming season of the Frederick Flying Cows basketball team and a new photo project that Lamar is undertaking. However, the conversation transitions into a deeper examination of four articles from Snopes.com that illustrate gaslighting (which the guys discussed in their last podcast), information that needs more context, and how misinformation can be linked and result in some terrible outcomes, such as the death of Renee Nicole Good, by manipulating public perception. Learn More Image claiming to show Renee Nicole Good's car aimed at ICE officer isn't what it seems ⁠https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/renee-good-car-ice-image/⁠  Repeal of 24/7 Rule for Nurses in Skilled Nursing Care: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/rfk-jr-health-department-nurses/  USPS Postmark Rules: https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/12/30/usps-postmark-rules/  Nick Shirley’s investigation into alleged Minnesota day care ‘fraud scandal’: What we know: https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/12/30/nick-shirley-minnesota-daycare-fraud/  A 3rd Space Survey: Acts of Kindness Do you have an act of kindness that you’d be willing to share? You can participate through a Google Forms Survey at this link: https://forms.gle/5NQakn6bgeXpm2us5 There you will find two kindness questions we’d like you to consider and then respond to: What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you? What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life? Finally, please share this survey because an act of kindness shared begets others. How We Check Ourselves Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself: Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/  FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/  Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/ RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/  Reuters FactCheck - https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/  Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage: Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive  Meet Lamar and Tom Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions.  Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics?  Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com. Credits: Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc.  Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and https://www.rothimages.com/ Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2025. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: hello@klaushausllc.com.  No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed. Recorded using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA and Iowa; Original Publishing Date, February 3, 2026.

    1h 1m
  3. S4E2 - A Table Talk on Truth, Gaslighting, and the Death of Renee Good

    JAN 20

    S4E2 - A Table Talk on Truth, Gaslighting, and the Death of Renee Good

    An American citizen was shot and killed by an ICE officer in Minnesota. The video of the incident was clearly viewed by millions. The truth of what happened is not so clear, especially when the gaslighting starts.  In this conversation, Lamar and Tom discuss the recent shooting of Renee Nicole Good in Minneapolis and its implications, particularly as it relates to the concept of gaslighting. They explore how conflicting narratives emerge in the wake of such events, the psychological manipulation involved, and the political ramifications of gaslighting. The discussion also touches on the importance of trust in leadership, the challenges of navigating misinformation, and the complexities of law enforcement accountability. Ultimately, they emphasize the need for critical thinking and due diligence in understanding the truth behind current events. Learn More Family and neighbors mourn woman who was shot by ICE agent and made Minneapolis home (The Associated Press) New video of fatal Minnesota ICE shooting, from officer’s perspective, brings fresh scrutiny (The Associated Press) The War on Perception: Gaslighting in Politics — Francesca Barca Political Gaslighting — Keeps you warm but leaves you in the dark — Fanni Barckzikai and Republikon Institute What is Gaslighting?  National Domestic Violence Hotline What is Gaslighting?  Types and How to Respond A 3rd Space Survey: Acts of Kindness Do you have an act of kindness that you’d be willing to share? You can participate through a Google Forms Survey at this link: https://forms.gle/5NQakn6bgeXpm2us5 There you will find two kindness questions we’d like you to consider and then respond to: What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you? What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life? What do we do with the acts we learn about in this survey? We save them and feature them in our Thanksgiving show each year…anonymously unless you prefer we use your name. Finally, please share this survey because an act of kindness shared begets others. How We Check Ourselves Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself: Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/  FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/  Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/ RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/  Reuters FactCheck - https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/  Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage: Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive  Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions.  Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics?  Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com. Credits: Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc.  Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and https://www.rothimages.com/ Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2025. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: hello@klaushausllc.com.  No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed. Recorded using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA and Iowa; Original Publishing Date, January 20, 2026.

    57 min
  4. S4E1 - A Table Talk on School Choice with Sen. Stephen Owens

    JAN 6

    S4E1 - A Table Talk on School Choice with Sen. Stephen Owens

    Stephen Owens was Lamar & Tom’s first guest on Getting to 3rd Space in the first season of the podcast. This week he is our first ever Table Talk guest on the podcast and we talk about school choice. During the first season of our podcast Stephen Owens was representing the 74th District in the Kansas House of Representatives. He served in the Kansas House from 2019 to 2024. In 2025, Stephen was elected to the Kansas Senate and is now serving the 31st Senate District. In another first, Senator Owens is joining as our first guest for a Table Talk. He is a Republican lawmaker in Kansas. The topic is school choice. School choice, as we are thinking about it for this podcast, allows public education funds to be used to support K-12 students whose families choose for them to attend public, private, or charter schools, home schooling, or other educational environments they choose.  Learn More Learn more about Senator Stephen Owens, representing the 31st Senate District in the Kansas Statehouse:  State of Kansas, Senate Web - https://www.kslegislature.gov/li/b2025_26/members/sen_owens_stephen_1/  Learn more about the pros and cons of school choice: EdChoice - https://www.edchoice.org/ University of Rochester - https://www.rochester.edu/newscenter/what-is-school-choice-pros-and-cons-564712/  Britannica - https://www.britannica.com/procon/school-vouchers-debate  A 3rd Space Survey: Acts of Kindness Sen. Stephen Owens is the most recent of our guests to talk about acts of kindness he has received and given. Do you have an act of kindness that you’d like to share? You can participate through a Google Forms Survey at this link: https://forms.gle/5NQakn6bgeXpm2us5  There you will find two kindness questions we’d like you to consider and then respond to: What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you?  What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life? How We Check Ourselves Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself: Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/  FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/  Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/ RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/  Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage: Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive  Meet Lamar and Tom Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions.  Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics?  Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com. Credits: Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc.  Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and https://www.rothimages.com/ Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2025. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: hello@klaushausllc.com.  No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed. Recorded using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA and Iowa; Original Publishing Date, January 6, 2026.

    1h 22m
  5. S3E25 A Holiday Table Talk and Season 3 Wrap Up

    12/23/2025

    S3E25 A Holiday Table Talk and Season 3 Wrap Up

    About this Episode In this holiday-themed episode, Tom and Lamar reflect on their experiences and traditions surrounding December holidays. They share personal stories about their favorite holiday memories, gift-giving practices, and the role of pets in their lives. The conversation also highlights memorable moments from the podcast season and their plans for the future. Whatever holidays you celebrate and however you celebrate them, Lamar, Tom, Jake, and Ebie wish you the warmth of food, friends, and family and experience of peace in the new year.  We are Looking for Acts of Kindness Do you have an act of kindness that you’d like to share? We gather Acts of Kindness for two reasons. First, we believe there is much more kindness in the world than incivility and that it needs to be highlighted. Second, we collect these Acts of Kindness to share and highlight during our annual Thanksgiving podcast. For this reason, it is always open and you can come back as many times as you like. We don’t ask your name and only tell us where you live (without too much detail please). These are the two questions in our survey: What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you? What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life? You can participate through a Google Forms poll at this link: https://forms.gle/Po83D9TBY2UUAuoZ8 Finally, please share this survey because an act of kindness shared begets others. Learn more:  Please visit our Substack -  https://klaushaus.substack.com/ - to see pictures of "Sailing Through the Winter Solstice" at Carroll Creek in Frederick, Maryland; Lamar's Shoo Fly pie and his spouses Homemade Cinnamon Roles they share each year with Tom and his spouse; Tom's Springerle (Anise Cakes) he and his spouse make to share year with Lamar and his spouse; and photos of Jake and Ebie. How We Check Ourselves Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself: Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/  FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/  Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/ RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/  Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage: Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive  Meet Lamar and Tom Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions.  Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics?  Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com. Credits: Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc.  Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and https://www.rothimages.com/ Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2025. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: hello@klaushausllc.com.  No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed. Recorded using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA; Original Publishing Date, December 23, 2025.

    1h 1m
  6. S3E24 - A Conversation with Michael Gaskins

    12/09/2025

    S3E24 - A Conversation with Michael Gaskins

    About this Episode Michael Gaskins is a Philadelphian by birth and heart. In fact, he’ll take a soft, chewy Philly pretzel anytime over cookies. He began his career in television production with CBS, NBC, and CNN affiliates but has found himself drawn to work with incarcerated young men to help them prepare for their re-entry into society as citizens upon their release. For a time he operated a prison ministry to do that work and worked with Prison Fellowship (https://www.prisonfellowship.org/) as an area director. His desire to produce a reality TV show about young men returning to society from a prison sentence led him back to television production. For the past several years he has worked on TV courtroom shows including Relative Justice, Judge Steve Harvey, Tribunal Justice, and Judy Justice. In this conversation we learn more about his journey and the challenges of having open, honest, and civil conversations in the TV and film industry and also with young men in prison. Michael also shares an act of kindness he has received as well as one he has passed on. After leaving Hollywood in 2025, Michael Gaskins became the Director of Media and Communications for a faith community in Virginia and is in the process of starting his own production company.  We are Looking for Acts of Kindness Do you have an act of kindness that you’d like to share? These are the two questions in our survey: What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you? What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life? You can participate through a Google Forms poll at this link: https://forms.gle/Po83D9TBY2UUAuoZ8 Finally, please share this survey because an act of kindness shared begets others. Learn more:  Drexel Alumni Spotlight: Michael Gaskins - https://drexel.edu/westphal/about/alumni-spotlight/Michael-Gaskins/ When US Outlets Cover Black Shooting: An Interview with Michael Gaskins - https://www.media-diversity.org/when-us-outlets-cover-black-shootings-an-interview-with-michael-gaskins/ Michael Gaskins’ LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/michaelcgaskins How We Check Ourselves Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself: Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/  FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/  Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/ RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/  Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage: Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive  Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions.  Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics?  Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com. Credits: Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc.  Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and https://www.rothimages.com/ Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2025. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: hello@klaushausllc.com.  No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed. Recorded using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA; Original Publishing Date, December 9, 2025.

    1h 9m
  7. S3E23 - A Table Talk on Acts of Kindness and Thanksgiving

    11/25/2025

    S3E23 - A Table Talk on Acts of Kindness and Thanksgiving

    This week is Thanksgiving in the United States and Lamar & Tom take time to celebrate by sharing acts of kindness submitted by listeners and viewers over the last two months. Since August 2025, Lamar & Tom have been collecting responses to two questions about acts of kindness. The first is, “What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you?” The second is “What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life?” In today’s episode they share responses they’ve received from listeners from around half the world (from Hawai`i to the United Kingdom), recent guests, and their own stories.  Today, settle back, listen, smile, laugh, and be thankful for the many people in our world who, despite the news, are still acting with kindness. Then, consider sharing your responses to those two questions in our ongoing Acts of Kindness survey. We start collecting for next Thanksgiving’s podcast today.  A 3rd Space Survey: Acts of Kindness Do you have an act of kindness that you’d like to share?  We gather Acts of Kindness for two reasons. First, we believe there is much more kindness in the world than incivility and that it needs to be highlighted. Second, we collect these Acts of Kindness to share and highlight during our annual Thanksgiving podcast. For this reason, it is always open and you can come back as many times as you like. We don't ask your name and only tell us where you live (without too much detail please).  These are the two questions in our survey:  What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you?  What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life? You can participate through a Google Forms poll at this link:  https://forms.gle/Po83D9TBY2UUAuoZ8  Finally, please share this survey because an act of kindness shared begets others.  Learn more:  Fresh Step Laundry, https://www.freshsteplaundry.com/ Lasagna Love, https://lasagnalove.org/ Midlife Stockman, https://www.youtube.com/@MidlifeStockman  How We Check Ourselves Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself: Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/  FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/  Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/ RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/  Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage: Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive  Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions.  Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics?  Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com. Credits: Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc.  Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and https://www.rothimages.com/ Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2025. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: hello@klaushausllc.com.  No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed. Recorded November 18, 2025 using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA; Original Publishing Date, November 25, 2025.

    1h 12m
  8. S3E22 - Part 2 - A Conversation with Christie Vilsack

    11/11/2025

    S3E22 - Part 2 - A Conversation with Christie Vilsack

    This episode of Getting to 3rd Space is Part 2 of our conversation with Christie Vilsack, writer, teacher, Former First Lady of Iowa, and sponsor of the Navy’s U.S.S. Iowa, a nuclear submarine.  Our conversation continues with a focus on literacy, acts of kindness, and the benefits of growing up in rural America. Christie writes the Substack column, “Common Ground,” in which she tells stories of the people she has met and the ties that connect them. A link to her Substack is provided below. This podcast is the second of two and you can listen to or view the first part @klaushausproductions on YouTube.  A 3rd Space Survey: Acts of Kindness Christie Vilsack is the most recent of our guests to talk with us about acts of kindness they have received and extended. Do you have an act of kindness that you’d like to share?  There are two kindness questions we’d like you to consider responding to: What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you?  What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life? You can participate through a Google Forms poll at this link: https://forms.gle/5NQakn6bgeXpm2us5  Learn more:  Common Ground, a Substack column by Christie Vilsack - https://christievilsack.substack.com/  USS Iowa (nuclear submarine) - https://ssn797.com/about-us  American is Sliding Toward Illiteracy, by Idrees Kalhoon in The Atlantic - https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/10/education-decline-low-expectations/684526/?gift=OkCOMnff83tE105ER-Egr9RBJ6X_L1UNSsOAWWYxod8&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share The Anxious Generation, by Jonathan Haidt - https://a.co/d/8tWME8n Disagree Better, An Initiative by the National Governor’s Conference - https://www.nga.org/disagree-better/  And of course, the Frederick Flying Cows Basketball team - https://goflyingcows.com/  How We Check Ourselves Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself: Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/  FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/  Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/ RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/  Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage: Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive  Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions.  Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics?  Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com. Credits: Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc.  Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and https://www.rothimages.com/ Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2025. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: hello@klaushausllc.com.  No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed. Recorded October 16, 2025 using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA and Iowa; Original Publishing Date, November 11, 2025.

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A "3rd Space" is a space where two or more people with differing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. In this podcast two lifelong friends, Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus, carve out a Third Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. Getting to Third Space with Lamar & Tom features an exploration of how to talk with one another about significant, even controversial, issues with grace and humor. Occasionally Lamar & Tom will welcome guests to the show.

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    From Klaus Haus Productions, featuring Tom Klaus and Lamar Roth
  • Years Active
    2023 - 2026
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    58
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