Register for Luminosity: Register Sign Up for Prayer: Orbis Prayer Ministry Network – Receive prayer for healing, prophecy, inner healing and deliverance Donate: Give - Orbis Ministries In this episode of God Is Not a Theory, Ken Fish is joined by Richard J. Roberts and Joel Taylor for an insightful conversation about what healthy apostolic leadership really looks like. With more than forty years of church leadership experience—and a unique background in family medicine, psychotherapy, theology, and missional leadership—Dr. Richard Roberts brings a thoughtful perspective to one of the Church's most pressing questions: How do we cultivate leaders who build healthy, flourishing communities instead of unhealthy systems? Together, they explore the biblical model of leadership, contrasting today's organizational approaches with the New Testament vision of the Church as a spiritual family. They discuss why spiritual fatherhood matters, the dangers of pursuing titles and status, how authentic apostolic ministry produces communities rather than platforms, and why identity must always come before function. Topics Include: What healthy apostolic leadership looks like Why the Church is called to be a family Spiritual fathers and mothers in the Kingdom The problem with titles and status Leadership through relationship instead of hierarchy Why identity comes before function Building genuine Christian community Family-based churches and church planting The role of hospitality in discipleship Creating healthy cultures for future generations Whether you lead a movement or simply love Jesus and serve in your local church, this is a clarifying, refreshing conversation about what the church was always meant to be. 🔑 Key Takeaways "Apostle" is best understood as a description, not a title Identity precedes function—who we are comes before what we do The church is fundamentally a family, not an organization Authority in the kingdom is exercised through relationship, not position Genuine community, not big meetings, formed the early church Hospitality and shared life are central to mission Suffering, not status, marks true apostolic ministry For every believer: ask who is discipling you, and whom you are discipling How to Engage with Orbis: Check out Ken's book: On the Road with the Holy Spirit Partner with Orbis Financially: GIVE Are you interested in learning about Holy Spirit-led ministry? Visit Orbis School of Ministry at https://orbissm.com or email our Registrar, Jo McKay, at jo@orbisminstries.org Upcoming Orbis Ministries overseas ministry trips are posted on orbisministries.org under the Train tab Do you want to join Ken's private Facebook discussion group, "God is not a Theory?" Please send a Facebook Direct Message to Bryan Orbis and a friend request to be added to it. 📘 Check out Dr. Richard Roberts' book, Rediscovering Church as Networks: https://a.co/d/0hD3wTJW 👉 This is Part 1 of 2. Next week, Dr. Roberts returns to discuss toxicity in the church and its leadership—don't miss it. #GodIsNotATheory #KenFish #JoelTaylor #RichardRoberts #ApostolicMinistry #ChurchLeadership #Discipleship #ChurchAsFamily #CharismaticChurch #KingdomOfGod #Ecclesiology #SpiritualFormation
