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The GOTO podcast seeks out the brightest and boldest ideas from language creators and the world's leading experts in software development in the form of interviews and conference talks. Tune in to get the inspiration you need to bring in new technologies or gain extra evidence to support your software development plan.

  1. 20+ Years in Tech: Things We Wish We Knew Sooner • Daniel Terhorst-North & Kevlin Henney

    3D AGO

    20+ Years in Tech: Things We Wish We Knew Sooner • Daniel Terhorst-North & Kevlin Henney

    This interview was recorded at GOTO Copenhagen 2024. https://gotocph.com Daniel Terhorst-North - Originator of Behavior Driven Development (BDD) & Principal at Dan North & Associates Kevlin Henney - Consultant, Programmer, Keynote Speaker, Technologist, Trainer & Writer RESOURCES Daniel https://bsky.app/profile/tastapod.com https://twitter.com/tastapod https://www.linkedin.com/in/tastapod https://github.com/tastapod https://mastodon.social/@tastapod http://dannorth.net/blog Kevlin https://bsky.app/profile/kevlin.bsky.social https://about.me/kevlin https://twitter.com/KevlinHenney https://linkedin.com/in/kevlin https://instagram.com/kevlin.henney https://kevlinhenney.medium.com Links https://jaoo.dk/jaoo2004/index2.jsp https://jaoo.dk/archives RECOMMENDED BOOKS Jez Humble & David Farley • Continuous Delivery • https://amzn.to/452ZRky Nicole Forsgren, Jez Humble & Gene Kim • Accelerate • https://amzn.to/442Rep0 Kevlin Henney & Trisha Gee • 97 Things Every Java Programmer Should Know • https://amzn.to/3kiTwJJ Kevlin Henney • 97 Things Every Programmer Should Know • https://amzn.to/2Yahf9U Henney & Monson-Haefel • 97 Things Every Software Architect Should Know • https://amzn.to/3pZuHsQ Gojko Adzic • Specification by Example • https://amzn.to/44uqT6z Inspiring Tech Leaders - The Technology PodcastInterviews with Tech Leaders and insights on the latest emerging technology trends.Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify Bluesky Twitter Instagram LinkedIn Facebook CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.tech SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!

    42 min
  2. Building Support Structures • Flavia Circiumaru & Hannes Lowette

    6D AGO

    Building Support Structures • Flavia Circiumaru & Hannes Lowette

    This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted. https://gotopia.tech Read the full transcription of this interview here: https://gotopia.tech/articles/386 Flavia Circiumaru - Software Engineer at FundApps Hannes Lowette - Principal Consultant at Axxes, Monolith Advocate, Speaker & Whiskey Lover RESOURCES Flavia https://x.com/FlavsFA https://github.com/flaviacirciumaru https://www.linkedin.com/in/flavia-circiumaru Hannes https://bsky.app/profile/hanneslowette.net https://twitter.com/hannes_lowette https://github.com/Belenar https://linkedin.com/in/hanneslowette DESCRIPTION When FundApps exploded from 20 to 50+ engineers in just one year, their old "everyone does support" model crumbled spectacularly. Software engineer Flavia Circiumaru and host Hannes Lowette dive deep into how this London-based regulatory compliance company transformed from a support-free-for-all to a streamlined powerhouse. Flavia Circiumaru reveals the behind-the-scenes story of building a three-desk support system that turned their support team into the ultimate connector, bridging customers, developers, and business teams like never before. From battling context-switching nightmares to creating communication magic, Flavia and Hannes explore actionable insights on scaling support without losing your sanity. The twist? Their ultimate goal is to make support so seamless that dedicated teams won't even be needed. Talk about engineering your way out of a job! RECOMMENDED BOOKS Jacqui Read • Communication Patterns • https://amzn.to/3E37lvv Saleem Siddiqui • Learning Test-Driven Development • https://amzn.to/35OMb3n Ben Goldacre • Bad Science • https://amzn.to/4lqNLKN Ben Goldacre • Bad Pharma • https://amzn.to/3G15Mz7 Jeet Pattanaik • Ethics in AI • https://amzn.to/4jXyQXw Inspiring Tech Leaders - The Technology PodcastInterviews with Tech Leaders and insights on the latest emerging technology trends.Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify Bluesky Twitter Instagram LinkedIn Facebook CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.tech SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!

    39 min
  3. Platform Engineering: From Theory to Practice • Liz Fong-Jones & Lesley Cordero

    OCT 21

    Platform Engineering: From Theory to Practice • Liz Fong-Jones & Lesley Cordero

    This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted. http://gotopia.tech Read the full transcription of this interview here: https://gotopia.tech/articles/384 Liz Fong-Jones - Field CTO at Honeycomb.io Lesley Cordero - Staff Software Engineer, Tech Lead at The New York Times RESOURCES Liz https://bsky.app/profile/lizthegrey.com https://github.com/lizthegrey https://linkedin.com/in/efong https://www.lizthegrey.com Lesley https://www.lesleycordero.com https://twitter.com/clesleycode https://github.com/clesleycode https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesleycordero Videos https://www.alex-hidalgo.com https://www.honeycomb.io/blog/most-important-developer-productivity-metric-build-times DESCRIPTION Liz and Lesley explore the evolution of platform engineering from its DevOps and SRE roots. They discuss the challenges of building effective developer platforms, the importance of psychological safety and evidence-based prioritization, the complexities of open source sustainability, and the delicate balance between centralized platform teams and developer autonomy. The conversation covers practical insights on documentation automation, onboarding strategies, the manager-engineer career pendulum, and why treating platform work as a service rather than a mandate is crucial for organizational success. RECOMMENDED BOOKS Adkins, Beyer, Blankinship, Lewandowski, Oprea & Stubblefield • Building Secure and Reliable Systems • https://amzn.to/4n0bjae Charity Majors, Liz Fong-Jones & George Miranda • Observability Engineering • https://amzn.to/38scbma Beyer, Murphy, Rensin, Kawahara & Thorne • The Site Reliability Workbook • https://amzn.to/3IwsiOl Kelly Shortridge & Aaron Rinehart • Security Chaos Engineering • https://www.verica.io/sce-book No Inspiring Tech Leaders - The Technology PodcastInterviews with Tech Leaders and insights on the latest emerging technology trends.Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify Bluesky Twitter Instagram LinkedIn Facebook CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.tech SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!

    39 min
  4. Infrastructure as Code • Kief Morris & Abby Bangser

    OCT 17

    Infrastructure as Code • Kief Morris & Abby Bangser

    This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club. http://gotopia.tech/bookclub Read the full transcription of the interview here: https://gotopia.tech/episodes/385 Kief Morris - Author of "Infrastructure as Code" & Distinguished Engineer at Thoughtworks Abby Bangser - Principal Engineer at Syntasso & Team Topologies Advocate RESOURCES Kief https://bsky.app/profile/kief.com https://twitter.com/kief https://github.com/kief https://www.linkedin.com/in/kiefmorris https://kief.com Abby https://bsky.app/profile/abangser.bsky.social https://twitter.com/a_bangser https://github.com/abangser https://www.linkedin.com/in/abbybangser https://www.syntasso.io/members-area/abby/profile Links https://infrastructure-as-code.com DESCRIPTION Abby Bangser (Principal Engineer at Syntasso) speaks with Kief Morris (Distinguished Engineer at Thoughtworks consultant and Author of "Infrastructure as Code") about the evolution of infrastructure as code over the past decade. They discuss how the field has grown from simple server configuration management to complex cloud architectures, the challenges of current tooling, and emerging solutions like System Initiative. The conversation explores the importance of abstraction layers, the application of software development principles to infrastructure, and how AI might transform the field. They emphasize that infrastructure decisions must align with business needs rather than being treated as generic plumbing, highlighting the ongoing need for platform engineering and developer experience considerations. RECOMMENDED BOOKS Kief Morris • Infrastructure as Code • https://amzn.to/4e6EBQc Matthew Skelton & Manuel Pais • Team Topologies • http://amzn.to/3sVLyLQ Dave Thomas • simplicity • https://amzn.to/43FghBJ Dave Thomas & Andy Inspiring Tech Leaders - The Technology PodcastInterviews with Tech Leaders and insights on the latest emerging technology trends.Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify Bluesky Twitter Instagram LinkedIn Facebook CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.tech SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!

    35 min
  5. Tech Leadership Challenges: Communication & AI at Financial Times • Alice Bartlett & Charles Humble

    OCT 14

    Tech Leadership Challenges: Communication & AI at Financial Times • Alice Bartlett & Charles Humble

    This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted. https://gotopia.tech Read the full transcription of this interview here: https://gotopia.tech/articles/382 Alice Bartlett - Tech Director for Customer Products at Financial Times Charles Humble - Freelance Techie, Podcaster, Editor, Author & Consultant RESOURCES Alice https://x.com/alicebartlett https://github.com/alicebartlett https://www.linkedin.com/in/alicebartlett https://medium.com/@alice.bartlett https://alicebartlett.co.uk Charles https://bsky.app/profile/charleshumble.bsky.social https://linkedin.com/in/charleshumble https://mastodon.social/@charleshumble https://conissaunce.com Links https://blog.container-solutions.com/wtf-happens-to-psychological-safety DESCRIPTION Alice Bartlett, Tech Director at the Financial Times, discusses her journey from principal engineer to leading a 70-person team responsible for https://www.ft.com and mobile apps. She shares insights on managing editorial stakeholders, balancing technical debt with business priorities, leading difficult conversations, and navigating the challenges of AI in software development. The conversation with Charles Humble covers her approach to architectural challenges, communication strategies, and the evolving role of technology leadership in modern media organizations. RECOMMENDED BOOKS Simon Wardley • Wardley Maps • https://amzn.to/45U8Upr Simon Wardley • Wardley Mapping, The Knowledge • https://amzn.to/3XQEeDu Sun Tzu • The Art of War • https://amzn.to/2BqDeha Mark Craddock • Wardley Mapping Doctrine • https://amzn.to/4b3jRYb Susanne Kaiser • Adaptive Systems With Domain-Driven Design, Wardley Mapping & Team Topologies • https://amzn.to/3XTmNCc D Inspiring Tech Leaders - The Technology PodcastInterviews with Tech Leaders and insights on the latest emerging technology trends.Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify Bluesky Twitter Instagram LinkedIn Facebook CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.tech SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!

    45 min
  6. Simplicity • Pragmatic Dave Thomas & Sarah Taraporewalla

    OCT 10

    Simplicity • Pragmatic Dave Thomas & Sarah Taraporewalla

    This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club. http://gotopia.tech/bookclub Read the full transcription of the interview here: https://gotopia.tech/episodes/383 Pragmatic Dave Thomas - Pragmatic Programmer Turned Publisher Sarah Taraporewalla - CTO APAC at Thoughtworks RESOURCES Dave https://pragdave.me https://twitter.com/pragdave https://github.com/pragdave https://linkedin.com/in/dave-thomas-53aa1057 Sarah https://sarahtaraporewalla.com https://twitter.com/sarahtarap https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahtaraporewalla https://github.com/staraporf Links https://pragprog.com https://agilemanifesto.org DESCRIPTION Sarah Taraporewalla (CTO APAC at Thoughtworks) sits down with programming legend Dave Thomas—co-founder of The Pragmatic Programmer and co-creator of principles like DRY (Don't Repeat Yourself)—to discuss his latest book "Simplicity." Dave reveals why he believes "Agile is Dead" and shares his disillusionment with how agile practices have become rigid, corporate processes rather than the flexible, value-driven approach originally envisioned in the Agile Manifesto he helped create. The conversation centers around his new Orient-Step-Learn framework, designed to help individual developers master true simplicity through deliberate practice and feedback loops, emphasizing that real simplicity requires mastery and cannot be achieved overnight. Dave advocates for developers to take personal agency, reduce unnecessary dependencies, and focus on what they can control rather than waiting for organizational change, arguing that simplicity is ultimately about cutting away complexity to reveal elegant, minimal solutions. RECOMMENDED BOOKS Dave Thomas • simplicity • https://amzn.to/43FghBJ Dave Thomas & Andy Hunt • The Pragmatic Programmer • https://amzn.to/43QuMBj Dave Snowden & Friends • Cynefin • https://amzn.to/3FSnF3 Inspiring Tech Leaders - The Technology PodcastInterviews with Tech Leaders and insights on the latest emerging technology trends.Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify Bluesky Twitter Instagram LinkedIn Facebook CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.tech SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!

    39 min
  7. Writing for Developers • Piotr Sarna & Glauber Costa

    OCT 7

    Writing for Developers • Piotr Sarna & Glauber Costa

    This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club. http://gotopia.tech/bookclub Piotr Sarna - Co-Author of "Writing for Developers" & Founding Engineer at poolside Glauber Costa - Founder & CEO at Turso RESOURCES Piotr https://bsky.app/profile/sarna.dev https://github.com/psarna https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarna-dev https://bio.sarna.dev Glauber https://bsky.app/profile/glaubercosta.bsky.social https://github.com/glommer https://www.linkedin.com/in/glommer https://glaubercosta-11125.medium.com Links Get 45% discount with code: *GOTOdunlop*: http://mng.bz/Y7oK https://writethat.blog https://writethat.blog/?year=2025&month=3 https://turso.tech/blog/zig-helped-us-move-data-to-the-edge-here-are-our-impressions-67d3a9c45af4 https://www.scylladb.com/2021/09/28/hunting-a-numa-performance-bug https://devblogs.microsoft.com/typescript/typescript-native-port https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42378843 DESCRIPTION Glauber Costa interviews engineer Piotr Sarna about his evolution from a reluctant writer to a successful technical book author. They discuss writing as an engineering discipline, common engineering blog post patterns, and why even introverted non-native English speakers should be blogging. RECOMMENDED BOOKS Piotr Sarna & Cynthia Dunlop • Writing for Developers • https://amzn.to/3Z3rzgf Cardeneti Mendes, Sarna, Emelyanov & Dunlop • Database Performance at Scale • https://amzn.to/3ZNBqqJ Nicole Foster • How To Write In Plain English • https://amzn.to/3XaTWHf Inspiring Tech Leaders - The Technology PodcastInterviews with Tech Leaders and insights on the latest emerging technology trends.Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify Bluesky Twitter Instagram LinkedIn Facebook CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.tech SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!

    49 min

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The GOTO podcast seeks out the brightest and boldest ideas from language creators and the world's leading experts in software development in the form of interviews and conference talks. Tune in to get the inspiration you need to bring in new technologies or gain extra evidence to support your software development plan.

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