Grand Exit

Tamatha and Chelsea

You know what we talk a lot about? Living: better, longer and with purpose. But, in most of our conversations, we’re missing – or rather, avoiding – a layer of living: dying, which is inevitable for all of us. Talking about it won’t make it happen sooner (swear!). In fact, it may make it happen better. Why not make a Grand Exit? Enter “the conversation” with Tamatha Thomas-Haase - who’s living like she’s dying because metastatic breast cancer tells her that the scans, tests and treatments won’t end until her life does - and Chelsea Leader Gold -- whose family schooled her in how to live on.  Leave feeling more alive.

  1. AUG 22 · BONUS

    Friendship in the Trenches, with Nikki Boyer - Creator: 𝘋𝘺𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘚𝘦𝘹

    When Nikki Boyer’s best friend Molly Kochan was diagnosed with stage four cancer, she didn’t just face death—she rewrote how to live. Their journey together became the hit podcast Dying for Sex, now an Emmy-nominated FX series streaming on Hulu, and a testament to friendship in its rawest, realest form. In this deeply personal (and dream-come-true!) conversation, Nikki joins Tamatha and Chelsea to talk about loving someone through the trenches, what Molly taught her about living boldly (and dying without apology), and the lessons only a soulmate can leave behind.  You can expect to hear: - Knowing - like, really knowing - each other through life (and death and legacy)’s many moons; - How grief carves the same space in us that joy fills; - And what’s available in friendship when you’re willing to get as messy as life requires . .  More where this came from: Watch Dying for Sex on Hulu: hulu.com/series/dying-for-sex-423f6320-b55b-453b-a85f-dea05bd495d9 Listen to Dying for Sex, the podcast: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dying-for-sex/id1495392900 Connect with Nikki on Instagram: @nikkiboyer (instagram.com/nikkiboyer) Read Molly’s blog: EverythingLeadsToThis.com & grab a copy of her memoir: Screw Cancer: Becoming Whole (on Amazon) . . . . Digging what you're hearing? - Share Grand Exit with someone who matters to you - Catch up on Seasons 1 + 2 before Season 3 comes in hot, November 2025! - Rate + review Grand Exit - tell us what it inspires in your world - Connect on Instagram: @grand.exit (instagram.com/grand.exit) - Get Tamatha + Chelsea’s notes to your inbox: grandexit.com/newsletter

    43 min
  2. MAR 13

    Grief Needs a Rebrand, with Carla Fernandez, Author: Renegade Grief and Co-Founder: The Dinner Party

    In this episode, Tamatha & Chelsea are in deep and meaningful conversation with Carla Fernandez about what it takes to grieve well in a society that refuses to make eye contact with someone in the thick of it.  Carla is the author of Renegade Grief: A Guide To The Wild Ride of Life After Loss (Simon & Schuster) and co-founder of The Dinner Party, an organization connecting young adult grievers to peers over community dinners that normalize grieving through honest conversations with others who get it. You can expect to hear: What it means to be renegade griever How the curiosity in Carla’s early grief gave way to a powerful counterculture A moment of connection between Tamatha and Carla’s late father, Jose The dire need for not just greater grief literacy but grief allyship, from the group text to the workplace to Capitol Hill Some profanity (oops) because WTF is with people being so weird about loss?! . . . . More about Renegade Grief, The Dinner Party & Carla at-large: Pick up a copy of the book, for you or someone in your life that needs it, here, or anywhere you get your books! Find a stop on the Renegade Grief Roadshow, perhaps in a city near you, here Request a seat at the table with The Dinner Party, or make a donation to ensure there’s a seat for everyone, here Connect with Carla on Instagram @carlitafernandez Digging what you're hearing? - Share it with someone who matters to you! - Rate + review Grand Exit - Connect on Instagram: ⁠⁠instagram.com/grand.exit⁠⁠

    39 min

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You know what we talk a lot about? Living: better, longer and with purpose. But, in most of our conversations, we’re missing – or rather, avoiding – a layer of living: dying, which is inevitable for all of us. Talking about it won’t make it happen sooner (swear!). In fact, it may make it happen better. Why not make a Grand Exit? Enter “the conversation” with Tamatha Thomas-Haase - who’s living like she’s dying because metastatic breast cancer tells her that the scans, tests and treatments won’t end until her life does - and Chelsea Leader Gold -- whose family schooled her in how to live on.  Leave feeling more alive.

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