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This episode of 'The Great Security Debate' delves into the complexities surrounding cyber insurance, discussing its impact on minimising business risks and ensuring compliance. Erik, Brian, and Dan talk about how connected systems and automation increase risks and integrates AI reliance concerns.
Insurance policies, force majeure, and government regulations get some quality discussion and debate time, revealing fears and misconceptions about standardised security controls vs. adaptive security practices. And last up: the practicality and pitfalls of self-insurance, government intervention, and the need for standardised security terminology.
Show Links:
CISA Secure by Design Pledge | CISACISA Releases Guidance on Single Sign-On (SSO) Adoption for Small and Medium-Sized Businesses: (SMBs) | CISAThe 118th Congress is the third oldest since 1789Book - The End of the World Is Just the BeginningSupreme Court’s ‘Chevron’ ruling means changes for writing laws - Roll CallInsurers Warn Standardizing Cyber Policies Could Limit Future CoverageCyberattacks Disrupt Car Sales by Dealers in U.S. and Canada
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00:00 Introduction to the Great Security Debate
00:30 The Role of Cyber Insurance
01:49 Manual Processes and Business Continuity
03:09 Manufacturing and Supply Chain Challenges
06:11 Insurance Policies and Cybersecurity
08:00 Standardization and Government Involvement
19:14 The Complexity of Cyber Warfare
22:35 Globalization and Cybersecurity
30:33 Leadership vs. Boss Mentality
33:53 The Role of Communication in Crisis
36:51 The Cost of Compliance
40:30 Global Cybersecurity Challenges
44:22 The Complexity of Online Trust
47:56 Insurance and Cybersecurity
53:07 The Future of Cyber Insurance
01:00:15 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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In this episode of the Great Security Debate, Brian, Erik, and Dan dive into the latest trends in ransomware including an uptick in attacks against the hypervisor. Speaking of VMWare, we also "discuss" the way that Broadcom has handled the VMWare acquisition and why it both make sense (to them) and doesn't (to many customers).
The debate also heads into the impact of AI in cyber threats, and compare strategies for mitigating risk, such as prioritising vulnerabilities and understanding the attack landscape.
Additionally, the conversation shifts to business practices in tech acquisitions and the potential future disruptions in the market and importance of balancing security measures with user experience, and the need for adaptive, short-term security roadmaps to stay ahead in an ever-changing environment.
And break the big news about an upcoming Distilling Security in-person meet-up in Michigan in July!
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Show Notes:
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Broadcom execs say VMware price, subscription complaints are unwarranted  | Ars TechnicaWhat happened with AI Overviews and next stepsBook - Titan: The Life of John D. Rockefeller, Sr.
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Mentioned in this episode:
Michigan BBQ Meet-Up July 18, 2024 on Cass Lake
Join Distilling Security on July 18th in Cass Lake, Michigan for a BBQ, food, colleagues, and fun. Thanks to event sponsors: Material Security, Orca Security, Legit Security, and Cyberhaven!

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Michigan BBQ Meet-Up July 18, 2024 on Cass Lake
Join Distilling Security on July 18th in Cass Lake, Michigan for a BBQ, food, colleagues, and fun. Thanks to event sponsors: Material Security, Orca Security, Legit Security, and Cyberhaven!

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Sorry about the audio on this one. We have got the tech back on track for the next episode. I promise!
Join the Great Security Debate as Brian, Erik, and Dan delve into 'pig slaughtering,' a scam involving rapport building to swindle victims out of money.
The discussion explores the intersections of security awareness, blockchain technology, and the ethical implications of digital tracking tools like chain analysis. Featuring real-world cases, including child exploitation traced through blockchain, and the broader debate on privacy versus legality in technology use. Are public blockchain transactions truly private?
And how can we balance innovative tech with ethical concerns? Tune in to hear all about it
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Show Notes:
Movie: OppenheimerAdobe has built a deepfake tool, but it doesn’t know what to do with it - The VergeMovie: Defending Your LifeMicrosoft Edge May Import Your Chrome Tabs Without Your ConsentAdobe content analysis FAQHow the Federal Government Buys Our Cell Phone Location DataPublic By Default - Stories Found in Venmo CommentsChainalaysisBook: Tracers in the DarkPig Butchering Scams: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver7 Months Inside an Online Scam Labor Camp
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Mentioned in this episode:
Michigan BBQ Meet-Up July 18, 2024 on Cass Lake
Join Distilling Security on July 18th in Cass Lake, Michigan for a BBQ, food, colleagues, and fun. Thanks to event sponsors: Material Security, Orca Security, Legit Security, and Cyberhaven!

Full details and registration forms are on the Distilling Security website https://distillingsecurity.com.
Michigan BBQ Meet-Up July 18, 2024 on Cass Lake
Join Distilling Security on July 18th in Cass Lake, Michigan for a BBQ, food, colleagues, and fun. Thanks to event sponsors: Material Security, Orca Security, Legit Security, and Cyberhaven!

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Join Dan, Brian, and Erik in the latest episode of The Great Security Debate as they explore the impact and implications of the movie 'Leave the World Behind.' Delving into cyber security, societal impacts of technology, and philosophical elements, this discussion touches upon vulnerability management, risk management, and the effect of constant connectivity on modern life. Tune in to hear not only their analysis of the film but also personal reflections on communication, societal changes, and practical steps for improving individual security resilience. This episode also marks the exciting announcement of the Great Security Debate becoming a part of the Distilling Security network. Don't miss out!
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Show Notes:
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Distilling Security – Consumable security, privacy, and complianceHackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway—With Me in It | WIREDAugust 2023 Data Incident | U-M Public AffairsRecent power outages in Ann Arbor have multiple causes, DTE Energy saysWatch Leave the World Behind | Netflix Official Site
Editor note: This episode was recorded in the final days of 2023... but was lost to technology demons until now. One of those demons made it necessary to show the Zoom screen rather than our usual edited video cast. Sorry for the inconvenience and pain on your eyes.
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Mentioned in this episode:
Michigan BBQ Meet-Up July 18, 2024 on Cass Lake
Join Distilling Security on July 18th in Cass Lake, Michigan for a BBQ, food, colleagues, and fun. Thanks to event sponsors: Material Security, Orca Security, Legit Security, and Cyberhaven!

Full details and registration forms are on the Distilling Security website https://distillingsecurity.com.
Michigan BBQ Meet-Up July 18, 2024 on Cass Lake
Join Distilling Security on July 18th in Cass Lake, Michigan for a BBQ, food, colleagues, and fun. Thanks to event sponsors: Material Security, Orca Security, Legit Security, and Cyberhaven!

Full details and registration forms are on the Distilling Security website https://distillingsecurity.com.

It's an "all rounder" episode of The Great Security Debate. Brian watched a movie, Erik watched an advertisement, and Dan was overtly cynical. Just another day in the podcast booth for these three.
A variety pack of topics ranging from recent security attacks, to AI in technology, to automotive manufacturing (go figure), to privacy, to sponsorship and vendor models at live events, and more.
Links to everything we talked about are available in the show notes.
Thanks for listening and welcome to 2024! We have got some exciting changes ahead this year including ways to support the podcast, some big announcements, new shows and conversations, and more! Thanks for listening!
Some of the links in the show notes contain affiliate links that may earn a commission should you choose to make a purchase using these links. Using these links supports The Great Security Debate, so we appreciate it when you use them. We do not make our recommendations based on the availability or benefits of these affiliate links.
Mentioned in this episode:
Michigan BBQ Meet-Up July 18, 2024 on Cass Lake
Join Distilling Security on July 18th in Cass Lake, Michigan for a BBQ, food, colleagues, and fun. Thanks to event sponsors: Material Security, Orca Security, Legit Security, and Cyberhaven!

Full details and registration forms are on the Distilling Security website https://distillingsecurity.com.
Michigan BBQ Meet-Up July 18, 2024 on Cass Lake
Join Distilling Security on July 18th in Cass Lake, Michigan for a BBQ, food, colleagues, and fun. Thanks to event sponsors: Material Security, Orca Security, Legit Security, and Cyberhaven!

Full details and registration forms are on the Distilling Security website https://distillingsecurity.com.

It's not easy to sell things. It's even harder to sell to security practitioners and leaders. The Great Security Debate this week covers some angles in security tools (and selling those tools to security teams) that have taken their toll on the trust that needs to exist between those who buy and those who make the products that we use. From the software providers to the VAR (resellers) in the middle to the people and techniques used to market and sell the solutions. Some of the key topics of the discussion include:
The challenges of security tool consolidation by non-security vendorsSecurity is not a lock-in tool, and security is not an upsell toolPushing changes to products without telling the customers before they happen or letting those customers have control over the change (and if they take it or not)Security Selling with VARs & Deal Registration What are the motivators when a product is recommended to youYou can still buy direct (and why you might want to)The challenge of selling into the SMBThe power of the “vouch” that flies in the face of some sales methodsThe importance of being genuine in sales communications (aka knock off the programmatic drip campaigns that pretend to be personal)
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Thanks for listening!
Mentioned in this episode:
Michigan BBQ Meet-Up July 18, 2024 on Cass Lake
Join Distilling Security on July 18th in Cass Lake, Michigan for a BBQ, food, colleagues, and fun. Thanks to event sponsors: Material Security, Orca Security, Legit Security, and Cyberhaven!

Full details and registration forms are on the Distilling Security website https://distillingsecurity.com.
Michigan BBQ Meet-Up July 18, 2024 on Cass Lake
Join Distilling Security on July 18th in Cass Lake, Michigan for a BBQ, food, colleagues, and fun. Thanks to event sponsors: Material Security, Orca Security, Legit Security, and Cyberhaven!

Full details and registration forms are on the Distilling Security website https://distillingsecurity.com.