30 episodes

Welcome to Ground Work - a space to explore our minds, bodies, and the soil beneath our feet. Join me, Kate Kavanaugh, a farmer, entrepreneur, and holistic nutritionist, as I get curious about human nature, health, and consciousness as viewed through the lens of nature. I'm digging into deep and raw conversations with truly impactful guests that are laying the Ground Work for themselves and many generations to come. We dive into topics around farming, biohacking, regenerative agriculture, spirituality, nutrition, and beyond. Get curious and get ready with new episodes every Tuesday!

Ground Work Kate Kavanaugh

    • Health & Fitness
    • 5.0 • 68 Ratings

Welcome to Ground Work - a space to explore our minds, bodies, and the soil beneath our feet. Join me, Kate Kavanaugh, a farmer, entrepreneur, and holistic nutritionist, as I get curious about human nature, health, and consciousness as viewed through the lens of nature. I'm digging into deep and raw conversations with truly impactful guests that are laying the Ground Work for themselves and many generations to come. We dive into topics around farming, biohacking, regenerative agriculture, spirituality, nutrition, and beyond. Get curious and get ready with new episodes every Tuesday!

    029. A Search for the Natural State of Health, Farming, and Beyond with Dr. Anthony Gustin

    029. A Search for the Natural State of Health, Farming, and Beyond with Dr. Anthony Gustin

    Dr. Anthony Gustin is a man leveraging his curiosity to find opportunities in the problems of our modern age. He started as a chiropractor working with elite level athletes and saw the need for education around nutrition. That first crossover led him into founding Perfect Keto, Equip Foods, and helping put together Zero Acre Farms. He’s as much of a disruptor as he is a dreamer - and lately, he’s been getting into farming on his small farm, Joyfield Farms, outside of Austin, Texas. In this conversation, we explore modeling life after Wendell Berry and having a balance between intellectual and more physical and farm-related pursuits. We talk about the natural state of humans and whether or not we can get back to it, and if we can’t, what might come next and how in order to build it we have to start trying to solve some problems of progress. Anthony shares how to get people engaged with everything from eating real food to buying directly from farms and how some of his companies have served as stepping stones in that space. We dive into the scale of agriculture currently and what it’s going to take to get smaller farms in financial shape to begin to provide a viable alternative to the corporate organism. Anthony also shares some of his big questions about farming, as a self-professed novice, and how people have reacted to his viewpoints. This conversation asks big questions but also posits big solutions.

    We also talk about:


    Americans consumption of over 70 billion pounds of polyunsaturated fatty acids per year - can animal fats compete?
    Finding a spiritual practice coming from an atheist background
    The importance of community
    & so much more.

    Find Dr. Anthony Gustin

    Twitter: @dranthonygustin 
    Instagram: @dranthonygustin 
    Sign Up for His Newsletter
    Website
    The Natural State Podcast
    Equip Foods
    Zero Acre Farms

    Further Reading:

    Confessions of a Recovering Environmentalist by Paul Kingsnorth
    The More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know is Possible by Charles Eisenstein
    The Cross and the Machine (Essay) by Paul Kingsnorth
    Keto Answers by Dr. Anthony Gustin

    Related Ground Work Episodes:

    Chewing the Fat with Brad Marshall
    Dark Matter of Nutrition with Dr. Stephan van Vliet

    Other podcasts featuring Anthony:

    The Meat Mafia
    Bankless

    More on the Episode Website

    • 1 hr 41 min
    028. A Process of Reclamation: Farming, Family, and Beyond with Tara Couture

    028. A Process of Reclamation: Farming, Family, and Beyond with Tara Couture

    This is an episode you won’t want to miss, chock full of conversations around rightness, death, farming, and preservation - not just of food - but of ways of life. Caught in the heat of August and the peak of harvest, we talk about what it means to preserve something beyond just what is going into our freezers, cans, and solar dehydrators. We talk about preserving a different way of life. In it, we unpack the ways that death invites us to experience the full range of our humanity and connectedness. Tara dives into farming in Canada and beyond and what regulations might mean for the future freedom of our food system. There is an honest and in depth conversation on marriage, the highs and the lows, and how we can show up in service to our spouse. Within that, we cover what bulls and men have in common and how thoroughly both should be celebrated. We explore service over purpose and why chasing happiness isn’t the answer. Throughout the conversation, we talk about raising animals, eating delicious food, celebration of small farms, and freedom.

    We also talk about:


    Going beyond what is comfortable and safe
    Nutrition
    & so much more!

    Find Tara

    Instagram: @slowdownfarmstead

    Substack: Slowdown Farmstead

    Related Ground Work Episodes:

    Lacey Jean

    Shele Jessee

    Current Discounts for GW listeners:


    15% off Farm True ghee and body care products using code: KATEKAV15

    Join the Ground Work Collective:

    Instagram: @groundworkcollective

    Find a Farm: nearhome.groundworkcollective.com

    More: groundworkcollective.com

    Episode Website

    • 2 hr 18 min
    027. Building Resilient Communities, Ecosystems, and Businesses with Will Harris of White Oak Pastures

    027. Building Resilient Communities, Ecosystems, and Businesses with Will Harris of White Oak Pastures

    Will Harris of White Oak Pastures is a 5th generation rancher in Bluffton, Georgia. Will switched from a conventional model of farming to a holistic model in the 90’s and has been building not just soil organic matter, but also community, in his small rural town - once named one of the poorest in America. Now raising 10 different species, with integrated processing facilities, and a team of over 170 people, has given Will Harris a lot of ups and downs to consider what the business and mission of resiliency is all about. We talk about his recent viral moment discussing Bill Gates becoming the largest farmland owner in the U.S. We dive deep into resiliency - not just as it applies to land, but also as it applies to communities and businesses. Our discussion around finances runs deep and Will is transparent about how money flows in and out of White Oak Pastures and why traditional financial institutions won’t touch farming - but there are other options. Will highlights how market access and getting your product to consumers is one of the biggest hurdles in the business and how ‘greenwashing’ in the market has made it harder for small businesses to bust into the space occupied by multinational corporations. At the heart of the conversation, is an idea of coming home and digging in to build up rural America, just like Will has done with Bluffton

    We also talk about:


    The importance of slaughter and processing in the farm to table process
    How fundamental cycles - water cycles, microbial cycles, nutrient cycles are to farming
    Carbon tunnel vision
    & so much more

    Find Will Harris and White Oak Pastures:

    Instagram: @whiteoakpastures
    Website: White Oak Pastures
    Center for Agricultural Resilience
    Quantis Life Cycle Analysis for White Oak Pastures
    White Oak Water Cycles YouTube Video

    Further Reading:

    Dirt to Soil by Gabe Brown
    The Case Against Sugar by Gary Taubes 

    Resources Mentioned:

    Replant Capital

    Related Ground Work Episodes:

    How to Find Ecological Literacy with Bobby Gill (for more on Savory Holistic Management)
    Tides of Time and Oysters with Lissa Monberg (for more on multi-generational farming)

    Other Podcasts featuring Will Harris:

    Will Harris on Herd Quitter
    Will Harris on Sustainable Dish



    Episode Website

    • 1 hr 44 min
    025. Regulating Your Nervous System to Deepen Your Connection with Irene Lyon

    025. Regulating Your Nervous System to Deepen Your Connection with Irene Lyon

    In this episode, Irene Lyon breaks down not just the fundamentals of the nervous system but just how fundamental healing your nervous system is. It’s where we deepen our connection to ourselves and our environment. You’ll learn about how the nervous system is set in early childhood and how that forms the foundation for how we interact with the world. We dive into how we can harness neuroplasticity and the same regeneration and resiliency we see in nature to begin to shift the way our nervous system is regulated. As chronic health conditions and depression are on the rise, Irene looks at something that may be at the root of the matter - the state of our nervous systems. It may not be a quick fix, and we cover all the myths around the hacks and quick fixes that dominate the wellness sphere these days, and the truth that healing the nervous system is about building devotion to your body for the long haul. Irene shares her own story of how injuries and childhood experiences shaped her journey and how weaving together her work in the personal training and fitness world, somatic experiencing, and nervous system training with some of the world’s foremost practitioners - Peter Levine and Kathy Kain - led her to create a whole library of education and courses for healing your nervous system. We also explore how healing the nervous system isn’t just about the individual, but also about the next generation.

    We also talk about:


    Is the vagus nerve overhyped?
    Why meditation may not be working for you
    Why a preconception nervous system reset may be in order
    What nature teaches us about the nervous system



    Find Irene

    Instagram: @irenelyon

    YouTube

    Website

    21 Day Nervous System Tune Up - I loved it so much, I became an affiliate! If you use these links, I receive a commission.

    SmartBody SmartMind Course

    Further Reading:

    Scared Sick by Robin Karr-Morse

    When the Body Says No by Gabor Maté

    Waking the Tiger by Peter Levine

    African Babies Don’t Cry (an essay) by Claire Niala

    Current Discounts for GW listeners:


    15% off Farm True ghee and body care products using code: KATEKAV15

    Join the Ground Work Collective:

    Instagram: @groundworkcollective

    Find a Farm: nearhome.groundworkcollective.com

    More: groundworkcollective.com

    Episode Website

    • 1 hr 38 min
    026. How the Nervous System is Tied to Chronic Illness with Irene Lyon

    026. How the Nervous System is Tied to Chronic Illness with Irene Lyon

    In this episode, we dive into the nervous system’s connection to chronic illness. Over 50% of Americans have at least 1 chronic illness and 46% of American children also suffer from a chronic illness. Diet, toxin exposure, circadian biology all play a role in chronic illness but what about the nervous system? In part 2 of our journey into the nervous system with Irene Lyon, we explore the nervous system’s role in chronic illness - and the research behind it might just surprise you. We talk about the ACE (Adverse Childhood Experiences) study and what it exposed about the nervous system’s role in chronic illness. She also explains the mechanism where fight, flight, and freeze create a situation that can cause illness. Irene also discusses finding a healthy balance with technology and the way we share our personal lives and how our relationship with our phones is changing our nervous systems. In an important note, we talk about finding safety within ourselves and not outsourcing our power of healing to gurus, doctors, or anyone else. This interview is packed full of information, but it’s also a study in becoming our own healers.

    We also talk about:


    Victim consciousness
    Intergenerational Trauma
    Fawn Response
    & so much more

    Related Episodes:

    Part 1 with Irene

    Find Irene

    Instagram: @irenelyon

    YouTube

    Website

    21 Day Nervous System Tune Up - I loved it so much, I became an affiliate! If you use these links, I receive a commission.

    SmartBody SmartMind Course

    Further Reading:

    Scared Sick by Robin Karr-Morse

    When the Body Says No by Gabor Maté

    Waking the Tiger by Peter Levine

    African Babies Don’t Cry (an essay) by Claire Niala

    Current Discounts for GW listeners:


    15% off Farm True ghee and body care products using code: KATEKAV15

    Join the Ground Work Collective:

    Instagram: @groundworkcollective

    Find a Farm: nearhome.groundworkcollective.com

    More: groundworkcollective.com

    Episode Website

    • 1 hr 36 min
    024. A Curious Journey Into the Mineral Matrix with Hamid Jabbar

    024. A Curious Journey Into the Mineral Matrix with Hamid Jabbar

    Your mineral status is reflected in the mineral status of the soils, of your mother, and of your grandmother. Hammid Jabbar is exploring the way the mineral matrix affects our energy and the way minerals connect us back to our universal nature. In this episode, we look at the mineral depletion in soils and what that might mean about our own mineral status. Hamid first got interested in minerals through the lens of ancestral diets and then, later, plant medicines. After finding Morley Robbins’ work and the Root Cause Protocol, Hamid began to see first hand how changing his mineral status was improving his health. We first explore the role of mitochondria and how our maternal matrix informs our biology and just how much our mineral status in preconception, pregnancy, and beyond influences both our health and the health of our children. Much of this discussion looks through the lens of copper, as we get curious about her role in the regulation of iron, of our energy creation, and health. We discuss thirst as a product of mineral depletion and how mental health is also reflective of mineral status. Hamid offers a beautiful perspective on why we should do away with the idea of the mind/body connection and come home to our wholeness and how sound can heal.

    We also talk about:


    Time
    Integrating knowledge and finding a season for rest
    How EMFs are impacting us and how we can become less sensitive
    All about retinol

    Find Hamid

    Instagram: @mineralshaman, @hamid.jabbar

    Website: hammidjabbar.com 

    Hamid’s Sound Healing Courses

    Hamid’s Mineral Coaching 

    Hamid’s Sonoran Sound Singing Bowls vol. 1

    Further Reading:

    Cure Your Fatigue by Morley Robbins

    What Your Food Ate by David Montgomery and Anne Bikle 

    Dr. Martin Pall’s work on EMFs 

    Current Discounts for GW listeners:


    15% off Farm True ghee and body care products using code: KATEKAV15

    Join the Ground Work Collective:

    Instagram: @groundworkcollective

    Find a Farm: nearhome.groundworkcollective.com

    More: groundworkcollective.com

    Episode Website

    Episode YouTube Page

    • 2 hr 5 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
68 Ratings

68 Ratings

Dedrrater ,

So happy to have found this!

Wow this podcast covered everything I’m
interested in! I don’t usually finish a podcast /give it my full attention but this one had me hooked. I’m completely on the new, fresh edge of learning about minerals and soil and this talk was incredibly invigorating. I have always naturally been curious and interested in health and the extreme lack of nutrition education that doctors get-and it’s frustrating to say the least that I feel like I’m on my own when it comes to mine and my children’s health. Anyway this is a very fascinating talk and I cannot wait to learn more. Thank you!!

SH_Farshid ,

In the middle of my journey

Hi Kate,

I had a dog who lived with me for about 13 years and her death was so devastating for me. Over her body I promised to her I would not eat no animals from that moment forward and I kept my promise for 10 years.

When the pandemic hit I was really prepelexed how a respiratory virus could have such an impact to some and why some of us are so vulnerable and some not. I thought with myself this difference must have a very clear and obvious underlying reason. Parallel to this line of thinking I was researching blood clots and heart attacks for some personal reason and I stumbled on a podcast that turned my world upside down.

Everything I thought I knew was challenged from the moment I knew Ancel Keys and his seven countries study is absolutely garbage. And my journey began from there.

When I heard your episode in Death in the garden and your viewpoint about cyclicality of life and death, I felt you are in peace with this matter. Your deep knowledge and calmness really got to me and I started listening to all of The Groundwork, although still can not comprehend how you are able to kill an animal.

Episodes I really enjoyed and learned from:

A curious journey to the mineral matrix with Hamid Jabbar

Reciprocal living with Shele Jessie

Carnivore-ish with Beth Lipton

Meatypodcast ,

Fantastic podcaast

The best thing about this podcast is everything. It never fails to surprise me with guests week to week that, while seemingly disparate, fit together like a puzzle. The recurrent themes around connection, regeneration, and magic always leave me feeling hopeful and uplifted.

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