Grow or Go

Chris Jones and Matt Silasiri
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We talk about Surfing the Sigmoid Curve. Or in other words: how everything, and everyone will experience inception, growth, maturity, and finally decline. But how do businesses, products, or people continue to grow both personally and professionally? We interview founders, business owners, professionals, and growth-minded individuals who have found success. And they share how they made it happen. We have 1 rule. Don't. Be. Boring. Hosted by Chris Jones, CEO, and co-owner of the largest business brokerage firm in the US, and Matt Silasiri, VP of Business Development. https://www.tnma.com

  1. JAN 5

    Ep. 41 – Matching Your Business Exit with Your Financial Goals – Max Rosen and Robert Dietz

    As a business owner, most of your net worth is tied up in your business. So, how do you match your retirement vision with your business exit? The key takeaway: Do your homework and plan early to match your goals for the next chapter with the plan you establish for your business exit. Bernstein has been in business for 60 years in wealth management services. One of their main focuses is working with entrepreneurs and multi-generational families, and advising business owners for retirement isa key aspect of their services. Max Rosen is Principal and Robert Dietz is the National Director of Tax Research for Bernstein Private Wealth Management. Bernstein services can be found at Private Wealth Management | Bernstein Max can be followed at Max Rosen | LinkedIn Robert can be followed at Robert Dietz, CFA | LinkedIn Connect with our hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Jones⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - CEO and co-owner, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Matt Silasiri⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Vice President of Business Development at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠True North Mergers & Acquisitions ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sunbelt Business Advisors⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

    43 min

  2. 12/18/2025

    Ep. 40 – The Political Outlook for Minnesota Business Owners – Mayor Tim Sanders

    The political landscape that your business lives in has a huge effect on how you choose to operate your life’s work. So, where do things stand today, and what does the future look like? We welcome Tim Sanders to the podcast this week. Tim is the mayor of the city of Blaine, having served in office since 2021. Previously, Tim was a member of the Minnesota House of Representatives for 8 years from 2009-2017. Tim can be followed at Tim Sanders | LinkedIn Connect with our hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Jones⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - CEO and co-owner, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Matt Silasiri⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Vice President of Business Development at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠True North Mergers & Acquisitions ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sunbelt Business Advisors⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

    54 min

  3. 12/11/2025

    Ep. 39 – Maximizing Your Digital Business Presence – Marnie Ochs-Raleigh

    Business owners are commonly trying to find new ways to grow their business. They are searching for ways to bring new customers or clients their way. But when the answer isn’t a big sales team or a big new active marketing campaign, what will work? Many businesses are finding that optimizing and maximizing their digital presence can make a huge impact in this technology driven environment. Evolve Systems is a digital marketing agency based in St. Paul, MN. They work primarily with middle-market B2B business. They specialize in design and branding, website development, digital marketing and search engine optimization (SEO). Marnie is the founder of Evolve Systems and has been the CEO of the company for 23 years. Evolve Systems can be found at Twin Cities B2B Marketing Agency | Evolve Systems. Marnie can be found at Marnie Ochs-Raleigh | LinkedIn Connect with our hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Jones⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - CEO and co-owner, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Matt Silasiri⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Vice President of Business Development at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠True North Mergers & Acquisitions ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sunbelt Business Advisors⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

    48 min

  4. 12/05/2025

    Ep. 38 - Business Leaders Growing Together - Bill Cowan

    Leading a company and being “at the top” can at times feel like a lonely position. The direction of your company rests with you as the main visionary and decision maker and everyone is looking to you to have the right answer every time. So, where do business leaders go when they are looking for advice? Vistage Peer Groups connect business leaders and CEO’s to collaborate and make better decisions for their companies. These groups provide leaders an opportunity to discuss potential options, decisions, and directions and get feedback on the best routes going forward. They also provide accountability for leaders to stay proactive and keep their business on the right track. Bill Cowan has worked across five different industries throughout his career and has also been a business owner. He is now a facilitator, leader, and mentor for a Minnesota based Vistage Pure Group. He helps business leaders find the best version of themselves in their role to effectively run their companies. A Vistage Pure Group can be found at Vistage | A Powerful Network of CEOs Awaits Bill can be found at (18) William Cowan | LinkedIn Connect with our hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Jones⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - CEO and co-owner, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Matt Silasiri⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Vice President of Business Development at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠True North Mergers & Acquisitions ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sunbelt Business Advisors⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

    49 min

  5. 11/20/2025

    Ep. 37 - Preserving Key Institutional Knowledge - Ben Bomar

    Business transition is completely predictable, we know it is going to happen. Every leader or employee is eventually going to “log off” for the last time. Key employees retire, move on to a new opportunity, or take on new responsibility. When that happens, where does all their valuable knowledge and experience that has been vital to business success go? Welcome to Ben Bomar and Lithyus Group. They help businesses recognize and retain the institutional knowledge of their vital team members while mitigating the risks of business disruption caused by employee transition. They focus on making best practices common practices within every organization by celebrating, retaining, and sharing the wisdom of vital employees and they empower succession planning, talent development, and business continuity. Ben can be found most actively at Ben Bomar | LinkedIn. Connect with our hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Jones⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - CEO and co-owner, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Matt Silasiri⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Vice President of Business Development at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠True North Mergers & Acquisitions ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sunbelt Business Advisors⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

    29 min

  6. 10/30/2025

    Ep. 36 - Inspiring the Next Generation in the Trades - Joe House and Amanda Gregory

    With the arrival of AI and other new technology, the future across most industries is uncertain for the work force. Future generations may begin to see that careers in manufacturing and the trades are more secure. But where will they see the potential? Introducing MAKE PUBLISHING (Manufacturing A Kid's Experience) Children's Books. They explain to kids that everything they see in the world had to be made by someone. It promotes more curiosity about where the things around them came from. MAKE also connects with manufacturers to hear their stories and teach them how they can engage with the younger generations. They also host classes and manufacturing tours with elementary students to raise awareness of a potential career path. Joe and Amanda brainstormed this idea during their day jobs with Design Ready Controls (DRC). Based in Minnesota, and with nearly 500 employees, DRC specializes in building control panels and wiring products for large multi-national HVAC equipment manufacturers and more. If you want the full story, tune in! MAKE books and community engagement opportunities can be found at makepublishing.com. Connect with our hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Jones⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - CEO and co-owner, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Matt Silasiri⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Vice President of Business Development at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠True North Mergers & Acquisitions ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sunbelt Business Advisors⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

    35 min

  7. 10/14/2025

    Ep. 35 - These Affect Your Business Sale: Stock Market, Money Trends, Spending and Planning - Chad Schumacher

    Does the stock market really affect when you sell your company? Should I sell when it's down and invest the profits? Hold on longer until things are great? The answer comes down to where you financially are right now, and where you need to be for your next journey. That's the critical part of working with your wealth advisor ahead of a sale, along with a business advisor who can help you through the process. Chad Schumacher with Tradition Wealth Management is a market guru that lives and breaths everything that's going on for his clients. Offense, defense, preventative measures, and reassurance is how he and his team successfully get their clients to reach new levels. Connect with our hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Jones⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - CEO and co-owner, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Matt Silasiri⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Vice President of Business Development at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠True North Mergers & Acquisitions ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sunbelt Business Advisors⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

    47 min

  8. 09/29/2025

    Ep. 34 - Home Healthcare Needs are Booming - Charlotte Hoes

    We all have one thing in common: we are all aging, and there's no dress rehearsal for it. Aging is unavoidable. In fact, the older population in the next coming years is going to double. A direct result of this will be the demand for services for the older generations like medical resources and services. Just like your exit plan, it's crucial that you know what your options are for your healthcare needs. Charlotte Hoes joins the podcast and explains how important resources and services are for our older adults, how demand is rising for these services, and where businesses can help fill the gaps. If you have a loved one in this phase, or would like to plan for yourself, get your guidebook from Care Options Network. Just like we always say, Know. Your. Options! Care Options Network Connect with our hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Jones⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - CEO and co-owner, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Matt Silasiri⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Vice President of Business Development at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠True North Mergers & Acquisitions ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sunbelt Business Advisors⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

    34 min
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We talk about Surfing the Sigmoid Curve. Or in other words: how everything, and everyone will experience inception, growth, maturity, and finally decline. But how do businesses, products, or people continue to grow both personally and professionally? We interview founders, business owners, professionals, and growth-minded individuals who have found success. And they share how they made it happen. We have 1 rule. Don't. Be. Boring. Hosted by Chris Jones, CEO, and co-owner of the largest business brokerage firm in the US, and Matt Silasiri, VP of Business Development. https://www.tnma.com

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  • Creator
    Chris Jones and Matt Silasiri
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    41
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © Chris Jones and Matt Silasiri
  • Show Website
    Grow or Go