Rethinking Learning Podcast

Barbara Bray

Define Your WHY Through Stories

Episodes

  1. MAR 2

    Learning Experiences Worth Savoring with Kat Crawford (EP184)

    Subscribe:Spotify|TuneIn|RSS Kat Crawford, an Instructional Designer and Justice and Accessibility Advocate, specializes in designing innovative digital solutions, facilitating professional learning, and supporting the transformation of school systems to enhance student engagement. Kat never really left the stage–she traded the bright lights of theatre class for designing learning experiences that students actually want to eat up as the Lunch Lady. She spent over a decade disrupting the technology divide inside secure schools, fueled by her core belief: every student deserves a seat at the table–and a learning experience worth savoring. Your WHY  My work spans various roles, including directing and designing national curriculum initiatives, teaching graduate courses, and leading digital adoption for alternative and secure schools, all driven by my passion for student success and inclusion. All of my work is driven by my core belief that all students deserve a high-quality education. I run on stories. On second chances. On the sacred mess of being human. Background as an Educational Technology Leader As an educational technology leader with over 20 years of experience, I specialize in designing innovative digital solutions, facilitating professional learning, and supporting the transformation of school systems to enhance student engagement. With expertise in curriculum design, technology integration, and instructional coaching, I have worked with school districts in 47 states to promote educational equity and impactful learning experiences.  Executive Director of Digital Innovation From 2020 to 2024, I was the Executive Director of Digital Innovation at the Schlechty Center. My responsibilities included: Managing school district clients nationwide from the classroom to the boardroom in designing work centered around engagement. Customizing district proposals to design innovative work in person and virtually through on-site workshops, meetings, and trainings. Driving adoption and implementation of technology in professional learning sessions using educational technology tools aimed at equity, accessibility, and collaboration for all students. Leveraging client relations from year to year to maintain proposal renewals and growth opportunities with new and existing districts. Working closely with cross-functional teams to support our work nationally. The Lunch Lady My alter ego, The Lunch Lady, is an apron-wearing, tray-slinging voice inside every educator, reminding us that meaningful learning isn’t prepackaged–it’s handcrafted, messy, and deliciously authentic. It’s lunchtime, and The Lunch Lady is cooking up something new for the classroom. The way this came about is when I was asked to dress up like a chef for an ISTE playground. Everyone looked like a chef, but that wasn’t me. I remember Chris Farley as the lunch lady, and that was it. https://lunchladyedu.com The Secret Recipe for Student Agency is now Breakfast in Banter Today’s special? A three-course meal filled with deeper learning, sprinkled with innovation, and stuffed with student agency – served piping hot! Your reservation is ready because every student deserves a seat at the table – and a learning experience worth savoring. Don’t start from scratch! It’s time to reveal the secret recipe for Mystery Meat: Learning experiences worth devouring. Step into the kitchen and start cooking meaningful learning – no more prepackaging or reheating. Let’s transform classrooms into cafeterias of curiosity, choice, and creativity. Come hungry – you’ll want seconds. Figma and how it is aligned with your WHY I am the Education Program Manager for Figma. We support K12 educators, schools, and districts in bringing collaboration and creativity to the classroom through FigJam and Figma. The current focus includes in-person training, community building, and scaling impact through virtual programming.  Your Consulting Company: How Might We We empower school districts to push beyond traditional boundaries by fostering innovative solutions that address complex challenges. We specialize in designing transformative systems and initiatives for educational institutions, with a strong focus on alternative schools. Our services include individual and team coaching, customized professional development, and dynamic workshops. We don’t just respond to existing needs–we inspire new possibilities, helping schools discover what could be and build toward what will be. Kat Crawford’s Contact Information LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dramatickat/X: https://x.com/dramatickatLL (X): https://x.com/LunchLadyEDU Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dramatickatInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/dramatickat/LL Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lunchladyedu/Lunch Lady Headshots: The Lunch Lady Plain Background ***** I was looking forward to talking on my virtual porch with Kat Craford, the Lunch Lady. I didn’t know about Kat’s theatre background, but it makes sense. She is Dramatickat on social media and uses humor and her theater experience in her presentations. Her stories had me laughing. Knowing how she came up with the Lunch Lady was perfect. She watched Chris Farley and said, I can do that.  I just loved our conversation and hope you did, too. Please share the podcast and this post with your friends. The post Learning Experiences Worth Savoring with Kat Crawford (EP184) appeared first on Barbara Bray.

    54 min
  2. FEB 16

    Unlock the Power of AI in School Counseling with Hanna Kemble-Mick (EP183)

    Subscribe: Spotify | TuneIn | RSS Hanna Kemble-Mick, school counselor, dean of elementary school counseling, Indian Hills Elementary School, Topeka, Kansas. Hanna is a 2025 School Counselor of the Year® finalist, Therapy Dog mom, and Tech/AI enthusiast. I met Hanna through her mom, Jerri Kemble, when they were presenting with firefly wings. Then I had a one-to-one conversation with Hanna, and that was it… she had to be a guest on my show. Your WHY and What Brings You Joy My “why” is building schools where students are truly seen, where creativity is valued, and where opportunity is not reserved for a lucky few. I root for the underdog, the underserved, and students in rural communities who deserve the same expansive possibilities as anyone else. What brings me joy is connection, continuous learning, dogs, polka dots, and the everyday magic of my students growing into who they are meant to be. Your Background (what it was like in school, growing up, what you always wanted to be) I grew up in a rural community with a big heart, where everyone knew each other and helping others was simply part of everyday life. My parents, Kurt and Jerri Kemble, modeled what it meant to show up for others, and that spirit carried through our town. All of my grandparents lived nearby, so my childhood was filled with time around their kitchen tables, lending a hand to neighbors, and taking part in community service. When I was little, I dreamed of becoming a veterinarian because of my love for animals. I loved school and felt connected there until my senior year, when my mom became superintendent, and I transferred to the district where she worked. Suddenly, I felt out of place. In true teenage fashion, I joined the track team and filmed basketball games, volunteering for anything that would get me out of the building. Even then, I was learning how much belonging and environment shape a person’s experience.  I am fortunate to have a loving family and live in Lawrence, Kansas, with my husband, Dalton, two dogs, and a cat. Becoming a School Counselor: Describe what it meant to you when you figured out your calling. I graduated from college with a degree in advertising and began a career I genuinely enjoyed. I loved my job and deeply respected my boss, but something within me kept whispering that the work was not fulfilling my soul. I knew I wanted to make a different impact, so I decided to return to school to become a counselor. My boss met that decision with incredible kindness, allowing me to continue working while attending graduate school full-time, a generosity I have never forgotten.  When I first contacted the counseling program, the response felt uncertain and discouraging. There were questions about whether this path was truly right for me and how a background in marketing and advertising fit into the counseling world.  While I understand their perspective now, at the time, it planted seeds of imposter syndrome and left me wondering if I truly belonged. Yet, as the program continued, so did my clarity of purpose. I discovered that the skills I brought with me, including communication, creativity, understanding people, and connecting messages to meaning, were not detours but strengths. Looking back, I would not change the path at all. It shaped my resilience, deepened my empathy, and affirmed that this calling was exactly where I was meant to be. Junior Coaches Program Junior Coaches began as a restorative program designed to support students who struggle with peer conflict and behavior by building problem-solving skills and confidence. The group included older students who practiced these skills together and then took them to recess, where they supported younger students in navigating conflicts and challenges. This felt more comfortable and natural for them than stepping into that role with their own classmates, and it gave them a meaningful way to lead. Paws and Claws grew alongside it as a project-based learning group where students design, create, and donate pet products to a local animal shelter. I love both of these groups because they move beyond simply talking about skills and instead create depth through authentic skill-building. Students are not just learning what to do. They are practicing empathy, responsibility, collaboration, and problem-solving in real and meaningful ways. School Counselor of the Year 2025 Finalist Being named a 2025 School Counselor of the Year Finalist has been a wild and humbling ride. I still catch myself looking at photos from Capitol Hill and thinking, Did that really happen? It has been one of the most meaningful experiences of my life.  https://videos.schoolcounselor.org/hanna-kemble-mick For a moment, you feel fully seen, valued, and celebrated as an educator and as a school counselor, and I find myself wishing every person in education could experience that kind of affirmation. The connections, friendships, and shared purpose have been next level. This truly feels like the gift of a lifetime.  Through this experience, I have built lasting relationships with educators across the country and have had the opportunity to share my message about elevating school counseling and keeping it future-focused through keynotes and presentations in districts and conferences nationwide. I am deeply grateful to ASCA for opening doors I never imagined, and for creating an experience I wish every school counselor could have. Firefly Effect Presentations and more I have had the meaningful opportunity to present alongside my mom through the Firefly Effect and the Life Hack Lab for Women Who Lead. These experiences focus less on quick fixes and more on intentional navigation, introspection, and reflection. Together, we invite participants to pause, examine their paths, and reconnect with their purpose while building the courage to lead with authenticity and resilience. Sharing this work with my mom has made it even more special, blending a personal story with professional insight in a way that resonates deeply with the women we serve. AI Integration and what that means for Educators and School Counselors When I present on AI integration for educators and school counselors, I emphasize intentional use and meaningful impact. Rather than using technology for its own sake, I encourage professionals to ask why they are using it and how it supports students and strengthens their work. We explore how AI can expand access to support, streamline tasks, and open new pathways for learning, while remaining grounded in ethical, safe, and student-centered practices.  At the same time, I stress as technology becomes more present in our lives, human skills become even more essential. Skills, like empathy, communication, critical thinking, self-awareness, creativity, and ethical decision-making, empower students to use technology. wisely and to thrive in a rapidly changing world. The goal is not to replace the human element, but to amplify it, empowering counselors and educators to extend their reach, deepen relationships, and better support the growth and well-being of the students they serve. Hanna’s Keynote in Mississippi What’s next? Speaking engagem ents and presentations, writing a book, giving back to the profession, and continuing to be a champion for students!  Hanna’s Contact Information LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hannakemble/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hanna.kemble Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hannamickedu/  Email: hannamickedu@gmail.com **** I was looking forward to my talk on my virtual porch with Hanna Kemble-Mick. I just loved it and hope you did, too.  I knew Hanna was a School Counselor Finalist and an amazing speaker, but I also know her as Jerri Kemble’s daughter. When I saw the two of them in their Firefly Wings, I just had to get to know Hanna better. You can see the joy in our selfie from the FETC conference.. Enjoy the post that Hanna created here. Then please share our conversation with your friends. The post Unlock the Power of AI in School Counseling with Hanna Kemble-Mick (EP183) appeared first on Barbara Bray.

    53 min
  3. FEB 9

    Building Future-Ready Schools and Families with Dr. Martha Umana (EP182)

    Subscribe:Spotify|TuneIn|RSS Dr. Martha Umana, Founder of AIA (AI4Educator), author, and bilingual educator, is known as The Bridge. She helps parents and teachers thrive in the AI era by prioritizing human skills for future-ready kids. For over two decades, Dr. Umama has worked at the intersection of school and home, guiding families and educators in raising children who are emotionally intelligent, cognitively strong, and future-ready. Your Why My WHY is the child and the adults around the child. I kept seeing students who could produce impressive work, but they could not explain it, verify it, or revise it. When the process is missing, the child is not protected: teachers cannot assess fairly, and parents cannot mentor confidently at home. I do this work to keep learning honest across school and family life, and to build the human skills that remain stable. no matter what AI becomes: judgment, self-regulation, empathy, and truth seeking. Your Background I was born and raised in Latin America. Because I have lived and worked across countries and languages, I am careful about what transfers and what does not. What I focus on is universal: children learn when adults stay connected, expectations are clear, and revision is safe. Growing up, learning was a deeply social experience. Adults helped you improve without shaming you. That balance, accountability, and connection became central to how I work with teachers and families. I do not romanticize any system. I simply pay attention to what protects children: high expectations paired with dignity, and correction paired with care. Early in my career, I held leadership roles in higher education, including Academic Affairs Director and University Professor. Later, I moved to the United States as an adult, built a business, and eventually returned to education in public schools. Looking back, that shift mattered because it gave me the three lenses I needed: system, workplace, and relationship. AI Changed the Conditions of Learning, and Why This is Urgent AI did not just add a tool. It changed the conditions of learning for children and for the adults guiding them. AI accelerates output, but it does not build the internal capacities a child needs to live well. It can generate language, answers, and even persuasive arguments, but it cannot build a child’s self-regulation, empathy, moral judgment, or ability to verify what is true. Those skills are formed through guided practice and accountability. If we do not prioritize them now, we will confuse productivity with competence. We will raise students who can perform, but cannot explain, check, or revise under pressure. That is why I say that human skills are the stable line of support when the future is hard to predict. From school safety to AI governance: why emotional and identity harms appear first. The Role Shift for Teachers and Parents Teachers are no longer competing as holders of information. Information is everywhere. What is scarce now is judgment, verification, and authorship. So the teacher’s role shifts. Teachers become accountable architects of thinking: they design what students must know and show independently, what can be supported, and what must be verified, so learning is not replaced by polished output. Parents face a role shift, too. Parents have a new factor shaping childhood: algorithmic influence. It shapes what children see, what they repeat, what they normalize, what they desire, and sometimes what they fear. Parenting shifts from policing screens to mentoring attention, values, safety, and truth seeking. The child is the only person who lives in both worlds every day. That is why home and school must be coherent: shared expectations for explanation, verification, and revision keep the child protected. Coherence before capacity: Protecting teacher thinking in the age of AI Coherence Before Capacity, and What I Built My organizing principle is Coherence Before Capacity. It means we align roles, boundaries, and evidence of learning first, before we scale tools, training, or adoption. Capacity without coherence just scales confusion. Coherence is what protects meaning, protects dignity, and protects the child as an author of their own learning. I founded AI4Educator to help teachers use AI in a way that protects teacher authority, student authorship, and feasibility. That is why I built two practical supports. Question: When AI saturates STEM ecosystems, what protects the learning process? For teachers, I developed an Epistemic Principle: a simple way to decide what must be independent, what may be supported but verified, and what artifacts make thinking visible. I built the agent to operationalize that in teacher planning, so those protections show up in lessons without adding workload. For parents, I created The Bridge: a shared language that brings home and school together in the same direction through explanation, verification, and revision. The Bridge Script, One Routine That Works at Home and School During one of my parent education classes, a mom came in upset. Her fourth grader’s writing had been flagged as AI because it sounded too perfect. But when we slowed down, the real issue was epistemic. When the student was asked to explain the writing in their own words, the thinking was not visible. The child was caught between two worlds. At school, the teacher needed evidence of learning. At home, the family needed homework done, and fast answers were everywhere. So I gave the mom one shared script that works at home and school. Show Me: Show me your process: plan, notes, draft, and what you changed.   Explain It: Tell me in your own words what you meant and why you chose it.   Check It: Verify one key claim or one step with a second source or method.   Change It: Update your work based on what the check revealed. Correct an error if needed. If you are right, strengthen your evidence and explanation so that your thinking is visible. This simple routine helps both teachers and parents protect learning integrity without turning adults into AI police. The Bridge is available on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/the-bridge-home-school-7378959523816009728/  Harnessing the Wind of Change:From Digital Police to Digital Mentors Book: How to Stay Calm While Raising Resilient Kids By Dr. Martha Umana and Ioannis Anapliotis Overwhelmed by endless parenting advice? Craving real”‘world tools you can trust and use today? How to Stay Calm While Raising Resilient Kids delivers precisely what the latest consumer research shows parents need: Actionable, Science”‘Backed Practices, no fluff or jargon, just bite”‘sized scripts and routines grounded in developmental research. Emotional Support & Reassurance, a warm, empathetic voice that reminds you you’re not alone in the chaos. Modern, Holistic Solutions, from mindful screen”‘time strategies to gentle discipline, work”‘life harmony, and nutritional guidance. Available at https://www.amazon.com/Stay-Calm-While-Raising-Resilient/dp/B0FG2LRKQN/  Books: ME Time (11 books) The Me Time Series  By Dr. Martha Umana and Ioannis Anapliotis Born from the heart of How to Stay Calm While Raising Resilient Kids, this 10-book series invites children and families into calm, connection, and creativity, one meaningful activity at a time. Each book offers simple, open-ended prompts that spark imagination and emotional growth through hands-on experiences. These are not just activity books. They’re invitations–to slow down, to tune in, and to share time that feels nourishing for both child and adult. Created for real families with real lives, the Me Time Series helps you bring calm and creativity into your home, without pressure or overwhelm. Perfect for ages 4 to 9. No special supplies needed. Just time, presence, and a little space to explore together. Book: Mindful Moments: A Beginner’s Guide to Practical Meditation for Daily Stress by Dr. Martha Umana Unlock tranquility and balance with “Mindful Moments,” your essential guide to integrating meditation seamlessly into your bustling schedule. Mindful Moments equips you with a practical toolkit that fits effortlessly into any lifestyle, ensuring that serenity is just a breath away, no matter how hectic your day may seem. What’s next for AI in 2026 and beyond In 2026 and beyond, I expect the conversations to grow in three visible ways. First, systems will move from excitement about tools to clarity about boundaries: what must remain human, what can be supported, and what must be verified. Second, the assessment will change. Schools will not be able to treat polished output as evidence of learning, so we will see more emphasis on process artifacts: drafts, reasoning, oral explanation, verification steps, and revision trails. Third, the real differentiator will be human skills. AI will keep getting better at generating, but it will not build a child’s judgment, self-regulation, empathy, or truth-seeking. Those have to be deliberately practiced through routines at school and at home. That is why I focus on Coherence Before Capacity. If we get coherence right first, roles, evidence, and verification routines, then capacity, tools, and training can scale without damaging learning. The next era is not tool adoption, it is learning integrity: making thinking visible, verification routine, and human skills non-negotiable. The Future-Ready Classroom  Featured on page 39 of the Eduverse Newsletterhttps://heyzine.com/flip-book/693508ed2b.html#page/1  Dr. Martha Umana’s Contact Information  https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-martha-umana-4127a31b/ Email: dr.marthaumana@gmail.com  *****

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