hidden gems hit different. you’re used to listening to podcasts by celebs 1,2,3, and 4 interviewing the famous guest of the week…. and it’s good, don’t get me wrong. but you know those people you meet who open your world, that’s who joel is. he’s the person who listens to your story when you think no one will. to listen to his conversations and hearing how people open and share, make me so happy to have found this. a hidden gem in your top podcast list, a hidden gem of a host, a bunch of hidden gems of guests. everyone likes a piece of gold, but a rare flower just hits different. 10/10
