H2O and Beyond

Alex Han

H2O and Beyond is your weekly deep dive into the science, systems, and stories behind the water we use every day. Hosted by a student with a passion for the environment, this podcast makes complex topics—from pollution to policy—easy to understand. Get clear, engaging episodes that explore the forces shaping our water future—without watering down the truth. Follow and Subscribe to our socials! (psst we also have a Youtube Channel on there where we post video podcasts as well) https://linktr.ee/h2oandbeyond

  1. JAN 29

    Episode 23: "Southeast Asia's Unregulated Rare Earth Mines"

    In this Episode of H2O and Beyond, I'm joined by Mr. Regan Kwan, a research analyst from the Stimson Center as we talk about the unregulated rare earth mines of Southeast Asia. Rare earth elements are crucial to modern life. They’re in our phones, computers, electric vehicles, and renewable energy technologies. But the environmental cost of extracting them is often paid far from where these technologies are used. We examine how a technique known as in-situ leaching is devastating river systems, groundwater, ecosystems, and human health. While these mines may appear less destructive on the surface, the water impacts are severe: acidic wastewater pumped directly back into rivers, abandoned waste pools that overflow during monsoon seasons, and pollutants that infiltrate soil, crops, and drinking water. In Myanmar, there are over 800 unregulated rare earth mines! Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 7:07 What are rare earth minerals? 12:57 Why the sudden spike in interest? 18:57 How are rare earth minerals mined? 23:45 Myanmar's 800 unregulated mines 33:07 Ecological impacts 38:22 Should outsiders care about this issue? 43:50 Just how big is the rare earth industry? 45:39 How are these mines detected? 47:14 New trends in the industry 51:59 Role of the Stimson Center 58:42 Closing🎧 Listen to more episodes & follow us here: https://linktr.ee/h2oandbeyondFeedback Form: https://forms.gle/RNjdFLY2wSrk7PW2AStimson Center Links: https://www.stimson.org/2025/unregulated-mining-along-rivers-in-mainland-southeast-asia/https://www.stimson.org/2025/mining-in-mainland-southeast-asia-river-basins-dashboard/https://www.stimson.org/event/testing-the-waters-unregulated-mining-in-the-mekong-region/ Some major media hits from the data release: Reuters: https://youtu.be/AezIFldj5uA?si=W3FNcClmCpdeFEaJ Mongabay: https://news.mongabay.com/2025/11/toxic-runoff-from-politically-linked-gold-mine-poisons-cambodian-rivers-communities/ CNN: https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/25/asia/rare-earth-river-pollution-myanmar-china-intl-hnkT PBS: https://youtu.be/lV7NkSebOMU?si=hyDB0lTYMJgWyGhj CNA (with Regan): https://youtu.be/XPX9hqZOlXc?si=cDPK8i68kQ7ZecNn Korean OBS: https://youtube.com/shorts/2-XVqWNq0SA?si=ybmyTtT3hNMP9aB1If you liked this episode, please Like and Subscribe!

    1h 1m
  2. JAN 23

    Episode 22: The Power of Traditional Climate Knowledge

    For thousands of years, Pacific Island communities survived rising seas, volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, and storms—without satellites, sensors, or climate models. In this episode of H2O and Beyond, I speak with Patrick Nunn, a geologist who has spent more than three decades working with Pacific Island communities, learning how traditional knowledge preserved real environmental history—and how colonization disrupted it. We explore how myths and legends are actually encoded memories of past disasters, why many Pacific Islanders historically avoided coastlines, and how modern climate adaptation efforts often fail when they ignore local knowledge. We also discuss why money alone won’t solve climate change, and why the future depends on combining Indigenous knowledge with Western science. This episode challenges the idea that vulnerable communities are helpless—and asks what we’ve lost by failing to listen. 00:00 Intro 06:10 Who are the Pacific Islanders? 10:28 What is traditional knowledge? 16:39 Current sea level rise in the Pacific Islands 21:24 The problem with money-first climate aid 24:12 When scientists ignore traditional knowledge 29:00 Why money won’t solve climate change 30:38 How have communities lost their traditional knowledge? 33:00 Place-based knowledge vs global science 35:51 Why has traditional knowledge been ignored in the past? 43:04 How should aid communities go about helping? 46:17 What role does religion play in educating pacific islanders? 49:07 Closing Feedback Form: https://forms.gle/RNjdFLY2wSrk7PW2A🔗 https://linktr.ee/h2oandbeyond Learn more about Dr. Nunn's work! https://patricknunn.org/

    53 min
  3. JAN 16

    The Cost of the Truth: Special Interview with Time 100 Scientist Marc Edwards

    What happens when the people responsible for protecting public health become the ones doing the harm? In this episode of H2O and Beyond, I’m joined by Dr. Marc Edwards, a Virginia Tech professor who was named to TIME’s 2016 TIME 100 for his role in helping expose the Flint water crisis. But this conversation goes far beyond Flint. Dr. Edwards breaks down how the Washington D.C. lead crisis unfolded, why he believes government agencies knowingly covered up dangerous lead exposure for years, and what happens to scientists who refuse to stay quiet. We talk about the real consequences of whistleblowing, the collapse of trust in institutions, and why fixing water infrastructure becomes almost impossible once the public believes the system is lying. We also dive into Flint—what was true, what got distorted, and why Dr. Edwards says the narrative around the crisis has sometimes caused harm of its own. Finally, he shares blunt advice for young scientists: how to stay honest in a system that rewards quantity over truth. Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 5:19 The start of it all: Washington D.C 9:37 Experiences testifying in Congress 10:35 Bad scientists? 12:06 How can the EPA get away with lying to the public? 14:50 Why do most Americans not know about D.C? 15:54 Why did the EPA cut Dr. Edwards funding? 17:06 What kept Dr. Edwards pushing for the truth? 18:29 Punishments for whistleblowing 20:33 How bad was Flint, from a scientist’s perspective? 25:20 Are the kids in Flint really that much behind developmentally? 31:25 Why do scientists lie? 33:32 How do you deal with defamation as a scientist? 34:40 Problems with funding 37:17 Why do we reward quantity over quality in science? 41:09 Advice for young scientists 42:26 How do we solve this broken system of science right now? 🔗 Follow H2O and Beyond: https://linktr.ee/h2oandbeyond Dr. Edward's website: https://www.webapps.cee.vt.edu/index.php?category=people&pagetype=bio&do=getprofile&user=edwards.html https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10103158/

    50 min
  4. 12/12/2025

    Episode 19: The Great Salt Lake's Dust Problem - Explained

    In this episode of H2O and Beyond, I’m joined by Dr. Kevin Perry from the University of Utah to uncover the science behind one of the most urgent environmental issues in the American West: the shrinking Great Salt Lake and the dust it’s leaving behind. Dr. Perry spent years studying the exposed lakebed — even biking more than 2,300 miles around it — to map where dust originates and what’s actually in it. His research reveals surprising truths about arsenic levels, dust “hotspots,” and how only a small fraction of the lakebed is responsible for most dust emissions. We’ll also dig into his thoughts on the role of scientists in today’s society, and how important it is to maintain credibility as a researcher. 0:00 Intro 6:15 Introduction to the Great Salt Lake 8:25 Why is the lake shrinking? 12:23 What happens when the lake shrinks? 14:03 Research techniques utilized 18:23 Elements of concern in the dust 24:19 Dust events in Utah 28:41 Current efforts to save the lake 34:49 Future of the lake 38:10 Role of scientists in society 42:58 Advice for listeners 46:32 Closing 🎧 Listen to more episodes & follow us here: https://linktr.ee/h2oandbeyond Feedback Form: https://forms.gle/RNjdFLY2wSrk7PW2A Learn more about Dr. Perry’s work! https://gardner.utah.edu/great-salt-lake-strike-team/ (Great Salt Lake Strike Team) https://webapps.usgs.gov/gsl/ (USGS Hydromapper - GSL Data )https://greatsaltlake.utah.gov/wp-content/uploads/Great-Salt-Lake-Strategic-Plan-1.pdf (GSL Strategic Plan) https://water.utah.gov/gsl-basin-integrated-plan/ (GSL Basin Integrated Plan) https://d1bbnjcim4wtri.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/10101816/GSL_Dust_Plumes_Final_Report_Complete_Document.pdf (GSL Dust Composition Report)

    48 min

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H2O and Beyond is your weekly deep dive into the science, systems, and stories behind the water we use every day. Hosted by a student with a passion for the environment, this podcast makes complex topics—from pollution to policy—easy to understand. Get clear, engaging episodes that explore the forces shaping our water future—without watering down the truth. Follow and Subscribe to our socials! (psst we also have a Youtube Channel on there where we post video podcasts as well) https://linktr.ee/h2oandbeyond