HAZARD CLASS

Jake Ryks

HAZARD CLASS is the podcast where the curiosity of genuine questions in and around the world of emergency services is met with the knowledge of leading experts in their fields.

  1. 2D AGO

    Tony Perrone - HazMat Specialist - FDNY - Owner of Down Range Ops - HC0067

    In this episode of the Hazard Class Podcast, we sit down with FDNY veteran Tony Perrone to explore his journey from small-town volunteer firefighter to hazmat specialist in one of the busiest fire departments in the world. With over 19 years of service in the FDNY, Tony shares how he transitioned from aspiring lawyer to becoming a HazMat Technician at Engine 44 in Manhattan, and what it takes to operate at a high level in both firefighting and hazardous materials response. This episode dives deep into: -The realities of joining the FDNY in the aftermath of 9/11-The challenges of mastering hazmat operations versus traditional firefighting -How elite instructors train the next generation of responders -The importance of humility, adaptability, and continuous learning in emergency services Tony also discusses his role as a lead instructor in the FDNY HazMat Technician program and owner of Downrange Ops Hazmat Training, offering insight into how hazmat education is evolving across the country. Tony Perrone is a highly respected figure in the hazmat and fire service community, known for his operational experience, instructional expertise, and passion for developing others. Tony is known for: -Making complex hazmat topics accessible and practical -Blending real-world experience with humor and relatability -Emphasizing broad competency over narrow specialization -Creating buy-in from students, even those initially resistant to hazmat training

    1h 9m
  2. 4D AGO ·  BONUS

    BIGFOOT - The Dueling Mustache Conspiracy Hour: Co-Hosted by: The Salty Paramedic Feat. Charlie Raymond of The Kentucky Bigfoot Research Organization

    In this episode of the Dueling Mustache Conspiracy Hour, host Jake Ryks and The Salty Paramedic explore the mystery of Bigfoot sightings in Kentucky and Appalachia with renowned investigator Charlie Raymond. As the founder of the Kentucky Bigfoot Research Organization, Raymond shares insights from over 800 eyewitness reports and decades of field research. The conversation dives into the world of cryptozoology, examining whether Bigfoot is a myth, a misidentified animal, or an undiscovered hominid species potentially linked to ancient humans like the Denisovans. The episode covers Bigfoot behavior, intelligence, and physical evidence including footprints, DNA samples, and vocalizations. Key topics include: Why Bigfoot sightings are common in forested regions like KentuckyThe possibility of Bigfoot living near human populations undetectedTheories of government involvement or cover-upsAnalysis of famous cases such as the Patterson-Gimlin footageWhy modern technology hasn’t produced more definitive proofWhether you’re a skeptic or a believer, this episode offers a detailed look at one of America’s most enduring mysteries. Charlie Raymond is a leading Bigfoot researcher and founder of the Kentucky Bigfoot Research Organization. With more than 30 years of experience, he has: Investigated hundreds of Bigfoot sightings across AppalachiaConducted over 800 eyewitness interviews, including law enforcement and military witnessesCollected and analyzed physical evidence such as tracks, hair samples, and environmental interactionsRaymond’s work centers on the idea that Bigfoot may be a highly intelligent, flesh-and-blood hominid species that has adapted to avoid human detection. He is also a featured speaker at events like the Red River Gorge Bigfoot Festival, where he shares his research and field experiences with the public. Known for his credibility and measured approach, Raymond focuses on evidence-based investigation and careful evaluation of eyewitness testimony.

    59 min
  3. APR 30

    Logan Harris - Drone Detection Expert - CEO of Spotter Global - HC0066

    Jake sits down with Logan Harris, founder and CEO of Spotter Global, to explore the rapidly evolving world of advanced radar technology, drone detection, and critical infrastructure security.From building homemade radios as a kid to leading one of the most innovative compact radar companies, Logan shares his journey into electrical engineering, defense technology, and entrepreneurship—including how the September 11 attacks reshaped his career and inspired him to develop solutions for national security. This episode dives deep into how radar works vs. LiDAR, breaking down complex concepts into simple terms while explaining why radar is essential for detecting threats in challenging environments like fog, dust, and low-altitude airspace. Logan also explains how small, portable radar systems are revolutionizing surveillance—capable of monitoring hundreds of acres and detecting even small drones with precision. A major focus is the modern drone threat landscape, including real-world insights from conflicts like Ukraine, where rapidly evolving drone technology—such as fiber-optic guided drones—is changing warfare and security strategies. The conversation highlights the growing risks of drone-based attacks, airspace disruptions, and public safety concerns, especially for law enforcement, firefighting operations, and large public events. Listeners will also learn how AI-powered radar and video systems are transforming detection by reducing false alarms, identifying threats (from drones to weapons), and enabling faster, smarter responses. Logan shares how customer-driven innovation shapes product development at Spotter Global, along with practical insights into entrepreneurship—including his productivity framework: Record, Remind, Report. Whether you're in emergency services, defense, public safety, or technology, this episode offers a compelling look at the future of security systems, AI integration, and counter-drone solutions—and why staying ahead of these threats is more critical than ever. Logan's Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/lh1937 Spotter Global Website:www.spotterglobal.com HAIX Boots: www.HIAXUSA.com Rigaku Analytical Devices: www.RigakuAnalytical.com

    52 min
  4. APR 22

    Keith "Flip" Griffin - US Navy - Command Master Chief (Ret) - Creator of Firehouse Freedom - HC0065

    Keith “Flip” Griffin, a retired U.S. Navy Command Master Chief with over 23 years in elite search and rescue (SAR) operations. During his military career, Flip led high-risk missions and logged more than 1,300 flight hours, operating across combat zones, ocean rescues, and medevac deployments. After retiring, Flip transitioned into leadership development, creating the Everyday Leader Framework—a practical system focused on accountability, communication, and trust. He now works closely with the fire and EMS community through his Firehouse Freedom program, helping leaders build stronger teams and more effective station culture. Website: www.firehousefreedom.com LinkedIn: Keith’s LinkedIn HIAX Boots: www.hiaxusa.com Rigaku Analytical: www.RigakuAnalytical.com Jake sits down with Keith “Flip” Griffin to explore leadership, military experience, and the realities of high-risk emergency work. Flip shares the story behind his nickname—earned during an unforgettable early leadership moment—and uses it to highlight the role of mentorship, humility, and team integration. From there, the conversation traces his path from a suburban upbringing to becoming a Navy SAR corpsman and eventually a Command Master Chief. The discussion dives into the demands of search and rescue medicine, including operating as an independent provider in high-pressure environments where critical decisions must be made without backup. Flip reflects on the transition from training to real-world missions and the mindset required to perform when lives are on the line. A major focus of the episode is leadership. Flip breaks down the core principles that shaped his approach—honesty, consistency, and transparency—and explains how these traits build trust, accountability, and strong team culture. The conversation also explores the personal side of leadership, including how becoming a husband and father changed his perspective on risk, responsibility, and decision-making. Flip offers insight into balancing family life with demanding careers in the military and emergency services. This episode delivers practical takeaways for fire, EMS, and military professionals, including: ​Leading effectively under pressure​Building trust within teams​Transitioning from operator to leader​Applying real-world experience to leadership growth

    1h 38m
  5. APR 15

    HC0064 - Sean Gray - Cobb County - Fire Captain - Author "The Evolving Fireground"

    Jake chats with Sean Gray, a fire captain from Cobb County Fire and Emergency Services with over 30 years of experience. Sean shares his journey from a Southern California surfer to a leader in fire safety and research. With a degree in fire safety engineering and deep involvement in fire dynamics, he’s an expert on tactical operations and evidence-based fireground techniques. www.evolvingfire.com/ www.instagram.com/ffseangray/ HIAX Boots: www.hiaxusa.com Rigaku Analytical Devices: www.rigakuanalytical.com Timestamped Chapters: (0:00 - 1:18) – Introduction to Sean Gray Meet Sean, an expert in fire dynamics and fire safety, with experience in research and tactical operations.(1:19 - 1:43) – Vegas Conference Sean shares his time at the STRIVE IFF conference in Vegas and balancing work with personal life.(1:44 - 4:34) – Path to Firefighting Sean talks about how surfing led him to firefighting, starting with EMT school and his first firehouse visit.(4:34 - 6:55) – Family Support Reflecting on the pride and support his family had when he chose firefighting, despite no family background in it.(6:56 - 9:53) – Realizing His Calling Sean recalls his early days in EMS and firefighting, realizing it was the career he wanted after a few key experiences.(9:53 - 13:09) – A Life-Changing Incident The near-miss event that changed Sean’s approach to firefighting and led to a deep dive into fire dynamics and tactics.(13:09 - 14:45) – Mentorship Sean talks about mentorship from figures like Bill Gustin, shaping his career and involvement in fire safety research.(14:45 - 17:12) – Onboarding at Cobb County Sean describes his onboarding at Cobb County, comparing it to the challenges of working in smaller departments.(17:12 - 18:08) – Fire Academies Discussing the balance between military discipline and skill development in modern fire academies.(18:09 - 23:17) – Debating Firefighting Curriculum Sean critiques outdated fire service textbooks and emphasizes the need for a more science-based curriculum.(23:17 - 25:43) – Science vs. Experience The integration of science into firefighting and how it’s reshaping tactical decisions on the fireground.(25:43 - 28:58) – Cobb County’s Search Culture Cobb County’s aggressive search culture and their record of civilian rescues.(28:59 - 30:22) – Aggressive Firefighting Sean discusses the balance between aggression and competence, emphasizing preparation for safe, aggressive firefighting.(30:22 - 34:23) – Ventilation Tactics The shift from traditional roof ventilation to more efficient methods like hydraulic ventilation.(34:24 - 36:00) – Roof Ventilation Debate Why roof ventilation is increasingly seen as outdated, with more focus on alternative tactics.(36:00 - 40:02) – Hydraulic Ventilation The benefits of hydraulic ventilation and why it’s becoming the preferred method for improving fireground safety.(40:03 - 46:10) – Search and Firefighting Aggression How preparation and confident crews contribute to successful firefighting operations in Cobb County.(46:11 - 50:23) – Promotions and Leadership Sean’s journey through the ranks of Cobb County, from firefighter to engineer and now captain.(50:24 - 53:01) – Transition to Battalion Chief Sean discusses the shift in responsibilities as he moved up the ranks, focusing on leadership and organizational skills.(53:02 - 56:18) – Building Effective Teams The importance of effective communication and team dynamics, both within and outside the firehouse.(56:19 - 59:12) – Search Culture Evolution The growth of Cobb’s search culture and how it shaped their rescue strategies.(59:13 - 1:04:58) – From FDIC to UL FSRI Sean’s journey from attending FDIC to contributing to UL FSRI’s exterior fire attack and attic fire studies.(1:04:59 - End) – Reflecting on Career Success Sean’s thoughts on ongoing learning, the evolution of fire service tactics, and his career’s impact on others.

    1h 27m
  6. APR 8

    HC0063 - Dr. Johnny Torgeson - Asst. Chief of Operations - Author "Forging Your Team"

    In this episode of the Hazard Class Podcast, we sit down with Dr. Johnny Torgeson—chief officer, leadership consultant, and author—to unpack his unconventional journey into the fire service and the leadership philosophy he’s built through real-world experience. From a last-minute decision in high school to becoming a U.S. Army firefighter, Dr. Torgeson shares how effort—not talent or grades—became the defining factor in his success. The conversation dives into the realities of leadership in emergency services, including how to motivate individuals with different drives, how to lead people through difficult life “seasons,” and why the idea of a constantly “high-performing team” is flawed. Instead, he introduces the concept of building optimized teams—meeting people where they are while still maintaining standards. Through powerful stories from boot camp, the firehouse, and his leadership career, Dr. Torgeson emphasizes self-belief, accountability, and understanding human behavior as the foundation of effective leadership. This episode is packed with actionable insights for anyone looking to lead better, build stronger teams, and unlock their full potential. Dr. Torgeson's Website:www.forgingteams.com HAIX Boots: www.haixusa.com Rigaku Analytical Devices: www.rigakuanalytical.com 00:00 – Intro & Guest BackgroundMeet Dr. Johnny Torgeson and his career across military and fire service leadership. 04:30 – Origin Story & Career BeginningsA spontaneous decision leads to joining the Army as a firefighter. 11:00 – Military vs Civilian Fire ServiceKey differences, experiences, and lessons from multiple systems. 17:30 – 9/11 ExperienceBeing on standby during 9/11 and the emotional impact on crews. 25:00 – Boot Camp & Effort MindsetHow basic training reshaped his belief in effort over ability. 33:30 – Motivation & Proving People WrongThe role of doubt, self-belief, and internal drive. 45:00 – Leadership & Motivation TheoryWhy discipline alone isn’t enough—and how leaders must adapt. 55:30 – Understanding Your PeopleLearning what drives individuals and tailoring leadership approaches. 1:05:00 – Life Seasons & Team PerformanceWhy teams fluctuate and how to lead through personal struggles. 1:13:00 – Accountability with EmpathyBalancing standards with compassion in leadership. 1:18:30 – Leading Former PeersNavigating difficult dynamics, influence, and respect. 1:21:00 – Closing Thoughts & ResourcesWhere to connect with Dr. Torgeson and learn more.

    1h 23m
  7. APR 1

    HC0062 - Sidd Thakur - CEO of Paradigm Robotics

    In this episode of the Hazard Class Podcast, Jake talks to Sidd Thakur, founder and CEO of Paradigm Robotics, about his journey from childhood tinkering with Legos to creating robots that aid first responders in hazardous situations. Paradigm Robotics' innovative robots, like their heat-resistant models, help reduce risk and save lives in emergencies. Sidd shares the challenges of building these robots and discusses the future of robotics in emergency services.HAIX Boots: www.haixusa.com/ Rigaku Analytical Devices: www.rigakuanalytical.com 0:00 - 1:03 | Introduction to Sidd ThakurSidd Thakur, robotics innovator and founder of Paradigm Robotics, shares his background in engineering and robotics from a young age. 1:04 - 2:50 | Sidd’s Robotics JourneySidd discusses his early interest in robotics, from Legos to building systems for his mom’s garden and entering competitive robotics. 2:51 - 4:20 | Inspirations and InfluencesSidd reflects on the character Wall-E, which inspired his passion for robotics and engineering. 4:21 - 7:10 | Hardware vs. SoftwareJake and Sidd talk about the balance between hardware and software in robotics and how both are needed for success. 7:11 - 11:07 | From Toys to Real-World RoboticsSidd explains how he moved from toys like K’nex to building real robots and how online resources and cheap components made robotics accessible. 11:08 - 14:15 | Family InfluenceSidd shares how his parents, both engineers and entrepreneurs, created an environment of creativity and support that influenced his career. 14:16 - 21:01 | Why Emergency Services?Sidd talks about how his early work on wildfire detection led him to focus on creating robotics for structural fire and rescue operations. 21:02 - 24:23 | Pain Points in the Fire ServiceSidd discusses the key challenges in the fire service, such as firefighter safety, staffing shortages, and emerging threats like lithium-ion fires. 24:24 - 30:28 | Limitations of RoboticsSidd explains where robots can’t replace humans, such as in fast response situations, but can assist in high-risk environments like large-scale warehouse fires. 30:29 - 38:17 | Firebot’s CapabilitiesSidd introduces Firebot, a versatile robot designed for hazardous environments, capable of high-temperature operations and equipped with sensors for a wide range of tasks. 38:18 - 40:13 | Explosion-Proof DesignJake asks how Firebot is explosion-proof, and Sidd explains the engineering behind making robots safe for explosive atmospheres. 40:14 - 47:35 | Modular PlatformsSidd discusses how Paradigm Robotics’ modular design allows fire departments to customize Firebot with different sensors and features based on their needs. 47:36 - 50:37 | Training and UsabilitySidd shares how easy it is for first responders to operate Firebot, with training times as short as 15 seconds, and how the user interface is designed for quick deployment. 50:38 - 54:01 | User Interface and Control SystemsSidd explains that Firebot uses a familiar, simple control system like a video game controller to ensure ease of use for anyone on the team. 54:02 - 59:03 | Connectivity in Challenging EnvironmentsSidd discusses how Paradigm Robotics ensures reliable communication in difficult environments like concrete buildings, using advanced radio systems and antennas. 59:04 - 1:03:35 | The Future of RoboticsSidd looks ahead, predicting greater adoption of robotics in emergency services, with AI integration, and the ability to tackle emerging problems like staffing shortages. 1:03:36 - 1:05:55 | AI and the SingularityJake asks about the possibility of AI causing problems like in science fiction. Sidd reassures listeners that safety is the top priority in robotics development. 1:05:56 - 1:06:47 | Closing ThoughtsSidd concludes the conversation, excited for the future of robotics in emergency services and the impact it will have on firefighter safety.

    1h 7m
  8. MAR 25

    HC0061 - Michael Brown - DEA Special Agent (Ret.) - Rigaku Analytical Devices

    Michael W. Brown joins the Hazard Class Podcast to trace his path from retail security in Cincinnati to a 32-year DEA career spanning Detroit, Bolivia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, India, Tajikistan, and Myanmar. He explains how overseas counter-narcotics work evolved from raiding labs and airstrips to targeting the chemical supply chains that keep global drug production running. The second half shifts to the modern drug landscape, where Brown breaks down fentanyl, cartel business models, border smuggling, and why precursor interdiction and field technology are central to the fight today. LinkedIn: Rigaku — linkedin.com/company/rigakucorp X: @rigaku — x.com/rigaku YouTube: @RigakuCorporation — youtube.com/@RigakuCorporation Instagram: @rigaku_corporation — instagram.com/rigaku_corporation Facebook: RigakuCorp — facebook.com/RigakuCorp 00:00 — Intro and Michael Brown’s backgroundBrown is introduced along with his DEA career and current role at Rigaku. 01:18 — What inspired him to join DEAA 60 Minutes segment on DEA operations in South America pushes him away from law school and toward federal service. 03:35 — The recruiter, the suit, and getting acceptedBrown tells the story of first showing up underdressed, getting sent back, and quickly landing a training slot. 08:49 — First assignment: DetroitHe begins his career in Detroit and describes the pace and intensity of narcotics work there. 13:31 — Undercover buys and street-level enforcementThe conversation moves into informants, cover stories, and what an actual buy-bust looked like. 26:29 — Bolivia and Operation SnowcapBrown describes deploying to Bolivia, working with UMAPAR, and targeting cocaine labs, airstrips, and precursor hubs. 35:50 — Why the drug war never stayed containedHe reflects on early overseas operations, cartel adaptation, and the political limits of long-term success. 44:08 — Pakistan, 9/11, Afghanistan, and IndiaThe discussion shifts to his overseas career arc and how counter-drug work intersected with broader geopolitical events. 49:58 — Myanmar and the pivot to chemical interdictionBrown explains how meth production in Myanmar pushed him toward technology-based counter-narcotics work. 55:44 — Precursors as the center of gravityHe argues that precursor chemicals are the real lifeblood of fentanyl, heroin, cocaine, and meth production. 58:03 — How fentanyl spreadBrown gives his view of the fentanyl timeline, from opioids and heroin to cartel-driven synthetic drug production. 65:02 — Cartels as Fortune 500-style enterprisesHe explains why modern cartels operate more like multinational corporations than street gangs. 74:51 — How drugs actually cross the borderBrown breaks down smuggling through points of entry, vehicle concealment, parcels, and volume overwhelm. 85:03 — Retirement and work at RigakuHe closes by explaining how his current role helps agencies use technology to identify drugs and precursors more safely.

    1h 30m
5
out of 5
14 Ratings

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HAZARD CLASS is the podcast where the curiosity of genuine questions in and around the world of emergency services is met with the knowledge of leading experts in their fields.

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