HAZARD CLASS

Jake Ryks

HAZARD CLASS is the podcast where the curiosity of genuine questions in and around the world of emergency services is met with the knowledge of leading experts in their fields.

  1. 6D AGO

    HC0052 - Marc Aloan - West Columbia (SC) Fire Dept - Battalion Chief - Creator of The Fire Inside

    Battalion Chief Marc Aloan of the West Columbia Fire Department discusses his two-decade career in the fire service. From chasing fire trucks as a child to becoming a battalion chief, Marc reflects on his experiences, including the challenges, leadership lessons, and learning from mistakes along the way. He also shares insights into the role of education in his career, the value of hands-on firefighting, and how he navigates the complexities of leadership in the fire service. 0:00 - 1:49: Introduction to Battalion Chief Marc AloanTopic: Marc’s Early Fire Service Connection Marc Aloan, Battalion Chief at West Columbia Fire Department, is introduced. He shares how he was drawn to the fire service at a young age, starting with his fascination with fire trucks and following them on his bike. 1:49 - 5:38: Marc’s Early Fire Service JourneyTopic: Starting in the Fire Service and Volunteering Marc discusses his early days in the fire service, including his experiences as a junior firefighter and his time training to be a paramedic, before eventually joining the Air Force. 5:38 - 10:56: First Fire ExperienceTopic: Marc’s First Fire and the Impact of Compassion Marc recounts his first fire response during a mutual aid call. He shares the emotional experience of dealing with a family’s loss and the importance of compassion alongside the thrill of firefighting. 10:56 - 13:56: Transitioning to Battalion Chief and Leadership PhilosophyTopic: Leadership and Empowering the Team Marc reflects on his leadership journey as a Battalion Chief, discussing how he empowers his team while balancing the role of a leader and a firefighter. He highlights the importance of allowing individuals to develop their own styles while maintaining department standards. 13:56 - 18:30: Learning from Mistakes and Constructive CriticismTopic: The Importance of Post-Incident Reviews The discussion shifts to Marc’s approach to post-incident debriefs. He explains how focusing on mistakes and failures helps the team improve and evolve. He emphasizes the need for candid reflection and learning from each experience. 18:30 - 23:45: Grinders vs. Naturally Gifted FirefightersTopic: Hard Work vs. Natural Talent in the Fire Service Marc talks about the difference between grinders, who work tirelessly to improve their skills, and naturally gifted firefighters. He explains why he aligns more with grinders and how their consistent effort leads to success over time. 23:45 - 29:41: Balancing Leadership with Hands-On FirefightingTopic: Staying Involved as a Battalion Chief Marc shares how his role as a Battalion Chief requires balancing leadership responsibilities with staying active in the field. He emphasizes the importance of being present for his team while supporting them with resources and leadership when necessary. 29:41 - 35:07: Conducting Effective CritiquesTopic: Accountability and Constructive Feedback Marc discusses how he approaches critiques and feedback in the fire service. He stresses the importance of leading by example, being self-reflective, and creating an environment where team members feel comfortable sharing their experiences and learning from mistakes. 35:07 - 39:49: The Role of Education in Marc’s CareerTopic: The Value of Formal Education for Firefighters Marc shares his experience with formal education, including his bachelor’s and master’s degrees. He highlights the value of education for career development, leadership skills, and personal growth within the fire service. 39:49 - 45:36: Reflecting on Early Career and MistakesTopic: Growth Through Challenges and Learning from Mistakes Marc reflects on his earlier years as a firefighter and the lessons learned through mistakes. He shares how these experiences shaped his approach to firefighting and leadership, emphasizing the importance of continuous self-improvement. Contact Information: Blog: The Fire Inside Facebook: The Fire Inside Facebook Page Instagram: @TheFireInside

    58 min
  2. JAN 14

    HC0051 - Gary Oldham - Apple's Former Head of Global Strategy for Public Safety

    Jake dives deep into the multifaceted career of Gary Oldham, a veteran in public safety with experience as a police officer, dispatcher, and global strategist at Apple. Gary shares the evolution of his career—from the front lines of law enforcement to managing major technological transitions in emergency services, and now running his own consulting firm, Accelerant 4. This episode is rich with leadership insights, practical innovation in emergency response, and a strong advocacy for tech that genuinely serves first responders. Introduction and Gary's Background (00:00 – 06:00) Early start in public safety Police Explorer to full-time officer at 18 Initial career motivations Transition from Police Work to Dispatch (06:00 – 15:00) Burnout and cynicism in law enforcement Finding new purpose in dispatch Differences between fire and police public perception Challenges in Emergency Dispatch Systems (15:00 – 27:00) Evolution from manual dispatch to Pro-QA Misuse of 911 and liability concerns Complexity of triage and human judgment Public Sector to Private Sector Shift (27:00 – 36:00) Transitioning to project management roles Working with San Diego and navigating bureaucracy Managing layoffs and organizational changes Tech Leadership and Working with Vendors (36:00 – 45:00) Leading expert teams as a non-expert Avoiding micromanagement Managing expectations in large-scale projects Joining Apple and Building Public Safety Programs (45:00 – 1:00:00) Overcoming skepticism and 0% market share Building global police summits Influencing product features like CarPlay integration Creating Impact and Culture at Apple (1:00:00 – 1:12:00) Apple’s unique culture and hiring practices Commitment to privacy and ethical leadership Working with first responders worldwide Launch of Accelerant 4 and Consulting Focus (1:12:00 – 1:20:00) Why Gary left Apple Helping companies better engage with public safety Tailoring technology to solve real-world problems Leadership Insights and Future of Public Safety Tech (1:20:00 – 1:30:00) Balancing team dynamics and technical talent Evolving responder technology Building realistic, scalable solutions Gary Oldham is a seasoned public safety expert with over three decades of experience. His career spans police work, dispatch leadership, and tech innovation. At Apple, he led global public safety strategy, taking their market share from 0% to 70%. Now, he runs Accelerant 4, a consultancy helping companies and agencies implement effective, meaningful technology solutions in emergency services.Website: accelerant4.com

    1h 18m
  3. JAN 7

    HC0050 - Rob Ramirez - Jupiter Fire Rescue Division Chief - The Mayday Mindset

    Chief Rob Ramirez returns to the show to talk about one of the most unique opportunities in modern firefighting: helping build a brand-new fire department from the ground up. He shares stories of leadership, culture, training, and staying sharp after leaving the fire truck. Segment Breakdown & Timestamps [0:00 – 0:07] Intro & Career LeapRob returns to the podcast, recounting his jump from 20+ years in operations to a command role in a new department. [0:07 – 0:14] Why Start Now? The Motivation Behind the MoveRob explains the rare opportunity to help shape something from scratch and how it aligned with his career goals. [0:14 – 0:21] Starting from Zero: Gear, Trucks, and PoliciesDetails about acquiring vehicles, setting SOPs, navigating town bureaucracy, and learning fast. [0:21 – 0:28] Building the Team: Hiring & Leadership PhilosophyRob outlines their recruitment strategy, training plans, and what type of people they’re looking for. [0:28 – 0:35] Laying the Training FoundationWhy training won’t be optional. Rob discusses shift-based training, officer development, and ongoing standards. [0:35 – 0:42] The Isolation of LeadershipWhat it feels like to be out of the action, staying connected to fireground competency, and the temptation to slip into admin-only thinking. [0:42 – 0:49] How Culture is Built: People, Trust, and AccountabilityThe role of informal leaders, gatekeepers of culture, and using character-first hiring to prevent future problems. [0:49 – 0:56] Handling Mistakes & Measuring GrowthAfter-action reviews, creating safe learning environments, and how Rob approaches performance evaluation. [0:56 – 1:03] Search Urgency, Real-World Fire Talk & Caring About the JobRob and the host dissect a recent fireground situation involving victim removal, and what it reveals about urgency and culture. [1:03 – 1:11] Mentorship, Mastery, and Long-Term VisionMentorship models, when to promote, and how the right people and structure create long-term excellence. Key Moments “You can’t read your own label from inside the jar.” Rob’s final fire call as a captain, ending with gratitude and fireground clarity. The skunk-in-the-parking-lot moment—and what it teaches about perspective. “Our people are our greatest ambassadors.” Resources & Mentions: https://www.instagram.com/robramirez1075_official/?hl=enhttps://www.jupiter.fl.us/firerescue Guest Info: Chief Rob Ramirez Division Chief of Training, Jupiter Fire Rescue Founder of Mayday Mindset National fire instructor and speaker

    1h 12m
  4. 12/31/2025

    HC0049 - Dr. David Griffin - Charleston Fire Dept Assistant Chief

    Dr. David Griffin shares his transformation from minor league baseball player to fire service leader, shaped by one of the most devastating tragedies in firefighting history—the 2007 Sofa Superstore Fire in Charleston, SC. Griffin recounts the incident in vivid detail, reflecting on how it reshaped his view of leadership, mental health, and responsibility. Nearly two decades later, he continues to advocate for cultural change, peer support, and meaningful leadership within emergency services. This episode offers a candid look at trauma, recovery, and the evolution of a career dedicated to honoring the past while improving the future. Episode Breakdown & Timestamps: [0:00] Introduction and Background of Dr. David Griffin Overview of Griffin’s career and his shift from baseball to firefighting. [0:02] Journey to the Fire Service How a conversation with a fire chief led to an unexpected but lifelong career. [0:07] Training and Early Career Reflections Discussion on early training gaps and how outdated practices shaped his outlook. [0:10] Mental Health and Organizational Change The fire service’s growing focus on emotional well-being and leadership accountability. [0:18] Sofa Superstore Fire Incident A detailed, moment-by-moment account of the tragic fire that claimed nine lives. [0:27] Aftermath and Recovery The emotional toll, public reaction, and the beginning of personal and organizational healing. [0:34] Leadership Evolution and Legacy Post-incident changes and the long-term impact of the Charleston Nine on policy and culture. [0:40] Therapy, Speaking, and Personal Impact Griffin’s battle with PTSD, the healing role of therapy, and the emotional cost of public speaking. [0:51] Principles of Leadership The five core values that now guide his leadership style and mentorship philosophy. Key Moments: First-hand description of the 27-minute window that changed Charleston Fire forever. Reflections on leading with humility and empowering the next generation. The mental and emotional challenges of revisiting trauma through public speaking. How the loss of fellow firefighters spurred sweeping department-wide changes. Exploration of non-traditional therapies and long-term recovery strategies. Resources & Mentions: Rowley Report (Sofa Superstore Fire investigation) Upcoming book: 27 Minutes by Dr. David Griffin Waves of Recovery (Ibogaine therapy documentary) Related discussions: Travis Howes’ podcast on trauma Guest Information: Dr. David Griffin Assistant Chief, Charleston Fire Department Author and national speaker on leadership and mental health in public safety Website: drdavidgriffin.com Instagram: @drdavidgriffin

    1h 9m
  5. 12/24/2025

    HC0048 - Deane Benninghoven - Therapeutic Hypnotist

    Deane Benninghoven, a certified hypnotherapist who specializes in treating anxiety, PTSD, addiction, and emotional trauma through hypnosis. Deane shares his personal journey from chronic pain and opioid dependency to healing through self-hypnosis, leading to a decades-long career helping others unlock the power of their subconscious. This conversation challenges common misconceptions, dives into how hypnosis works, and explores its surprising compatibility with traditional therapy. 00:00 – 01:16 | IntroductionJake introduces Deane and sets the tone for a curious, open-minded exploration of hypnosis. 01:17 – 07:57 | Deane's Origin StoryDeane recounts how a life-altering car accident led him to discover hypnosis as a tool for pain management and emotional healing. 07:58 – 12:08 | What Hypnosis Really IsA breakdown of hypnosis, the subconscious mind, and how symptoms like anxiety or addiction often stem from unresolved patterns. 12:09 – 16:42 | The Critical Faculty & Pattern ProtectionDeane explains the “guard” between the conscious and subconscious, and how hypnosis temporarily suspends it for healing. 16:43 – 23:41 | Natural Hypnotic States & Trauma LoopsExamples of everyday hypnosis (e.g., driving, daydreaming) and how trauma gets “stuck” in the subconscious. 23:42 – 34:20 | Rewiring Trauma with HypnosisThe mechanism behind changing one’s relationship to trauma without re-experiencing it, using Deane's "splinter" analogy. 34:22 – 40:47 | Guided Hypnosis SessionDeane leads a short, safe, and relaxing live hypnosis session—ideal for first-time listeners. 40:48 – 45:11 | How Hypnosis Empowers ChangePost-session discussion and anchoring techniques that help retrain emotional responses long-term. 45:12 – 51:54 | Certifications, Credibility & Finding a PractitionerTips for finding a credible hypnotherapist and info on Deane’s work, especially with first responders. "Hypnosis saved my life." – Deane shares how desperation led him to self-teach hypnosis after conventional treatments failed. “It’s not my hypnosis, it’s yours.” – Deane clarifies that hypnosis taps into the listener’s own natural state of mind. “Your subconscious doesn’t know you’re safe now.” – A powerful insight into how past trauma continues to echo through present-day behaviors. “Hypnosis is not sleep. It’s that in-between place we all experience.” – On the true nature of trance states. Summit Hypnosis NW: www.summithypnosisnw.com National Guild of Hypnotists (Certification Body): www.ngh.net Deane Benninghoven Certified by the National Guild of Hypnotists Over 20 years of experience Specializes in working with trauma, anxiety, and first responders Offers free consultations and hypnotherapy training Website: summithypnosisnw.com

    52 min
  6. 12/17/2025

    HC0047 - Erik Holt - Fire Chief Turned Local Election Fraud Whistleblower

    This explosive episode dives into the story of Erik Holt, a former fire chief fired after reporting alleged election fraud—an election that installed the very board that terminated him. From military service and firefighting to confronting corruption, Holt walks us through his journey, decisions, and consequences. LINKS: https://www.gofundme.com/f/free-speech-retaliation-and-the-cost-of-integrity https://www.facebook.com/justiceforholt/ Segment Breakdown & Timestamps: [0:00:00] Origins in Fire ServiceErik recounts his start in emergency services, high school recruitment, army firefighting in Iraq, and career progression in Colorado. [0:10:00] Becoming Fire Chief & Rebuilding a DepartmentTaking the helm in 2022, Erik discusses the chaos he inherited and his success in rebuilding a rural department—cutting response times from 19 to 7 minutes and increasing qualified responders from 4 to 62. [0:20:00] The Election SetupHe details the special district board’s structure and how all five seats unexpectedly opened for election—introducing a slate of opposition candidates. [0:30:00] Election Day AnomaliesErik responds to complaints about the election. He later reviews hours of surveillance footage (which anyone could legally access), discovering a pattern of coordinated, likely illegal poll watcher behavior and vote tracking. [0:40:00] The Scheme UnfoldsEvidence emerges of pre-counting ballots, illegal electioneering, and poll watchers using clickers to track compliant voters. The alleged “offsite coordinator” turns out to be the campaign manager’s husband. [0:50:00] Retaliation BeginsDespite no operational or disciplinary issues, Erik receives dubious orders—like disabling security systems—and the new board freezes fire department bank accounts just before a holiday weekend. [1:00:00] Fire Department Shut DownErik is ordered to shut down operations despite the insurance bill being paid. The board blames him, leading to a four-hour service disruption and massive public fallout. [1:10:00] Public Smear & TerminationDespite not controlling finances, Erik is fired under the pretext of “not paying insurance.” The event is turned into a bizarre celebration by the board with popcorn and lemonade. [1:20:00] Legal Fallout & Personal CostErik files a federal lawsuit (currently under appeal). Blackballed from firefighting, he loses his home and lives in a camper with his daughters while fighting to clear his name. Key Moments: Erik's rebuilding of a failing fire district into a professionally functioning agency in less than a year. Discovery of illegal poll watcher behavior including vote tracking and ballot manipulation. Board’s retaliation including bank account freezing and misuse of authority. Shocking termination under false pretense just 33 days after whistleblowing. Resources & References: Video evidence and court filings shared by Erik on his social media accounts. Colorado election statutes and open records laws (CORAs). Lookup: “Florrissant Fire Muster” for footage of the department’s final major public event. Guest Bio:Erik Holt is a former Army firefighter and veteran of Iraq, former chief of a Colorado fire district, and a whistleblower involved in an ongoing legal and public battle over local election integrity.

    1h 26m
  7. 12/10/2025

    HC0046 - Daniel DeYear - Dallas Deputy Chief (Ret.)

    In this episode of the Hazard Class Podcast, we sit down with Deputy Chief Daniel DeYear, a 45-year veteran of the fire service, including notable positions such as U.S. Department of State Fire Marshal and Deputy Chief of Dallas Fire Rescue. In a candid conversation, Chief DeYear shares stories from his extensive career, including his early days in the fire service, the evolution of EMS and fire tactics, and the importance of training and accountability in today's fire departments. 00:00 - Introduction to Chief Daniel DeYear Introduction of Chief DeYear and his illustrious 45-year career in the fire service.Overview of his roles in Dallas Fire Rescue and as an international fire marshal with the U.S. Department of State.02:00 - Early Days in the Fire Service Chief DeYear reflects on his upbringing in the Bronx during the 1960s and 70s, and how he was drawn to the fire service from a young age.Becoming a junior volunteer firefighter at the age of 14.The early influence of the Emergency! TV show and Dennis Smith's Report from Engine Company 82.05:30 - Firefighting in the 70s and 80s: Primitive Tools and Communication Description of early fire gear, including 15-minute SCBAs, and the lack of radios for firefighters.A look at the culture of firehouse accountability before formalized systems were introduced.Chief DeYear's early experiences with dangerous fires, such as the incident where he helped rescue a firefighter trapped under a collapsed beam at the age of 15.09:40 - Realizing the Fire Service Was the Career Path Chief DeYear talks about his decision to pursue firefighting as a lifelong career and how his family supported his path despite their initial reservations.The competitive job market in the fire service at the time and his journey to becoming a firefighter in Texas.14:00 - Transition to the Dallas Fire Department and Working as a Fire Marshal Chief DeYear’s move to Texas and his time at the Carrollton Fire Department.His work as a Fire Marshal, public educator, and later, a training officer.His time as an international fire marshal and what that role entailed while traveling to over 35 countries.22:00 - The Evolution of EMS and Paramedicine Early days of EMS in the U.S. and Chief DeYear’s experience as a paramedic in the early 80s.28:00 - Fire Tactics and Safety: A Changing Landscape Discussing the evolution of fire tactics, including changes in firefighting gear, communication, and building construction.The shift from traditional fire tactics to more advanced practices, including better understanding of fire science and building construction.34:00 - The Role of Company Officers and Leadership Chief DeYear’s thoughts on what makes a good company officer in the fire service.The importance of mentorship, investing in the crew, and avoiding complacency.43:00 - Line of Duty Deaths and Safety Culture Chief DeYear reflects on his experiences with line of duty deaths and the fire investigations that shaped his perspective on safety.The importance of assessing risk versus reward and the need for smart decision-making on the fireground.50:00 - Training and Improving the Fire Service The value of continuous training, even after years of service, and the importance of self-assessment.Chief DeYear’s thoughts on how to cultivate a training culture that embraces learning, even among experienced firefighters.1:00:00 - Handling Critiques and Learning from Mistakes Chief DeYear discusses how to properly handle post-incident critiques without turning them into punitive sessions.The importance of balancing positive reinforcement with constructive feedback in fire department training.1:05:00 - Chief DeYear’s Advice for Young Firefighters The role of company officers in shaping the career trajectories of young firefighters.How to guide rookie firefighters and ensure they remain engaged and passionate about their work.

    1h 24m
  8. 12/03/2025

    HC0045 - John Esposito - FDNY Chief of Department

    In the Season 2 premiere of the Hazard Class Podcast, Jake sits down with John Esposito, Chief of Department for the FDNY, for an intimate and wide-ranging discussion on leadership, legacy, and the realities of life in one of the world’s busiest fire departments. From 9/11 reflections and the evolution of FDNY to the traits of impactful leaders and memorable fireground moments, Chief Esposito shares hard-earned wisdom and never-before-heard stories that offer rare insight into the heart of New York’s Bravest. 0:00 – 2:45 | Intro & 9/11 Reflections Jake introduces Chief Esposito and shares a personal 9/11 memory. Chief discusses how 9/11 reshaped the FDNY and the lasting impact on the department’s culture and capabilities. 2:46 – 6:00 | The FDNY’s National Influence How FDNY’s decisions ripple across the American Fire Service. Lessons learned through innovation and trial by fire. 6:01 – 12:00 | Staying Connected to the Streets Chief Esposito explains how he maintains real-time awareness of field operations. Insights on technology, communication systems, and his use of Citizen App. 12:01 – 14:26 | Origins & Career Beginnings Why Esposito joined the FDNY in 1991. Reflections on becoming a firefighter and the influence of Report from Engine Co. 82. 14:27 – 18:00 | First Fire & Early Lessons Vivid recollection of his first fire. Thoughts on preparation, performance, and the emotional charge of that first job. 18:01 – 21:15 | Transition to Special Operations Moving to Squad 18 and working with elite fire personnel. The rigorous process and mindset behind making the switch. 21:16 – 25:35 | Training Culture & Tough Calls The philosophy of consistent, adaptive training. Real-world example: A Bronx rescue where plan B wasn’t good enough—they needed plan E. 25:36 – 30:04 | Memories of Andy Fredericks Personal stories and heartfelt tribute to a fire service legend. A hilarious and humbling hydrant mishap involving Fredericks. 30:05 – 33:25 | Climbing the Ranks Post-9/11 promotions and unexpected career trajectory. How staying ready allowed him to rise in leadership. 33:26 – 36:32 | Leadership & Morale The most important traits in fire service leadership. Balancing empathy, accountability, and understanding your people. 36:33 – 38:08 | Caring for Morale Where morale comes from and how leaders must foster it. Real-life examples of FDNY’s finest doing heroic work. 38:09 – 40:00 | Pride & Purpose What Chief Esposito is most proud of in his career. Doing the right thing in gray-area decisions. 40:01 – 41:21 | The Stupid Question Returns OG question: Who would win in a fight—grizzly, tiger, or gorilla? Fun and lighthearted close with reflections on strength and instinct. Segment Breakdown & Timestamps:

    42 min
5
out of 5
14 Ratings

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HAZARD CLASS is the podcast where the curiosity of genuine questions in and around the world of emergency services is met with the knowledge of leading experts in their fields.

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