He Said, Son Said

Matt Haverkamp
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Sports are the backdrop. Life is the conversation. He Said, Son Said is a father and son exploring life through the language of sports. Every week, Matt and Nash debate the biggest stories in sports, share their own experiences as father and son, and sit down with athletes, coaches, parents, and families whose journeys reveal something bigger than wins and losses. Because the greatest lessons from sports aren't about championships. They're about resilience. Leadership. Family. Purpose. And the relationships that last long after the final score.

Episodes

  1. 4d ago

    Episode 12 - More Than Football: Vision, Leadership & Purpose with Tommy Jones

    In Episode 12 of He Said, Son Said, Matt sits down with Tommy Jones—former University of Michigan football player, mentor, coach, and founder of Growth4Life—for a conversation that starts with football but quickly becomes about something much bigger. Tommy shares the journey that shaped his life, from relentlessly pursuing his dream of playing at Michigan to dedicating his career to helping young people become stronger leaders, teammates, and adults. Together they explore: • Why vision matters before success ever arrives • The resilience required to overcome adversity • Leadership lessons that apply far beyond sports • The role parents and coaches play in shaping character • Why attitude and effort remain the two things we can always control One quote from the conversation captures the entire episode: "The dream is a seed. Then you decide if it's worthy enough to pursue." Whether you're an athlete, coach, parent, leader, or someone chasing a dream of your own, this conversation will challenge you to think differently about success—and about the person you're becoming. Sports are the backdrop. Life is the conversation. 🎙️ New episodes every week.

    1h 4m

  2. Jun 22

    Episode 11 - Father's Day Special

    Father's Day gave us a reason to hit pause and reflect on something bigger than scores, standings, and championships. In this special episode of He Said, Son Said, Matt and Nash talk about the sports memories that shaped their relationship—from meeting sports heroes and attending unforgettable games to the lessons learned through winning, losing, and growing up together. They discuss: Their favorite sports memories togetherWhat losing has taught them about lifeThe responsibilities that come with growing upThe challenges and excitement of becoming an adultTraditions they hope to keep for years to comeWhat they appreciate most about each other It's a conversation about family, perspective, and the bond that's been built through sports over the years. Because sometimes sports start the conversation, but family becomes the real story.

    16 min

  3. Jun 12

    Episode 10 - Looking Back, Looking Ahead

    After a two-month hiatus and a quick turnaround from Episode 9, Matt and Nash are back behind the mic for a father-son catch-up session. The duo reflects on the last 90 days, including Matt's knee replacement recovery, Nash's journey through basketball, driving, and finding joy in the things that matter most. They also share key takeaways from their recent conversation with Brayleigh and Christiaan, including powerful lessons about resilience, parenting, and learning from mistakes. Along the way, they discuss summer goals, dream podcast guests, favorite sports memories, and wrap things up with a lightning round featuring everything from Bojangles vs. Chick-fil-A to LeBron vs. Jordan. In this episode: Matt's knee replacement recovery and lessons in patienceNash on basketball, driving, and finding joyReflections on Episode 9 with Brayleigh and ChristiaanSummer goals and what's ahead for the podcastFavorite sports memories and dream guestsA fun lightning round of sports and life hot takes Sometimes the best conversations happen when it's just a dad and his son sitting behind a microphone. 🎙️ He Said, Son Said — Two generations. One mic. Way too many opinions.

    20 min

  4. Jun 5

    Episode 9 - Play the Next Play

    After a two-month hiatus, He Said, Son Said is back with one of our favorite conversations yet. This week, we sit down with 8th-grade multi-sport athlete Brayleigh and her dad, Christiaan, to talk about sports, faith, leadership, pressure, and the lessons that shape young athletes both on and off the field. Brayleigh shares her journey from basketball manager to team captain, how she balances basketball, soccer, volleyball, and swimming, and why faith has become such an important part of her athletic journey. She opens up about dealing with nerves, overcoming mistakes, leading teammates, and the pressure that comes with wanting to perform at a high level. One lesson stands out throughout the episode: "You can't change this play, but you can change the next play." That simple piece of advice becomes the foundation for a conversation about resilience, growth, confidence, and learning how to move forward when things don't go your way. Christiaan shares what it's like watching his daughter evolve into a leader, why character matters more than trophies, and how parents can support their kids without trying to live through their athletic accomplishments. Whether you're a parent, coach, athlete, or sports fan, this episode offers valuable insights on leadership, faith, teamwork, and the lifelong lessons sports can teach us. In This Episode:🏀 Basketball, soccer, volleyball, and multi-sport athletes 🙏 Faith and pregame routines 💪 Building resilience after mistakes 👨‍👧 Parent-athlete relationships 📣 Leadership and communication 🏆 Team culture and championship moments ⚡ Lightning Round He Said, Son Said is a father-and-son podcast featuring conversations with dads and their kids about sports, family, and everything in between. Through candid interviews, stories, and a little friendly banter, we explore the moments that help shape relationships across generations. 🎙️ Follow us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube. 📱 Follow us on Instagram: @hesaidsonsaid

    39 min

  5. May 16

    Episode 8 - Different Paths Same Fairway

    In this episode of He Said, Son Said, Matt and Nash are joined by George and William Linney for a conversation centered around growth, discipline, and the unique bond between a father and son through sports. William shares his journey of becoming a scratch golfer during COVID—what started as extra time turned into a relentless pursuit of improvement. From daily routines to breakthrough moments, he walks through what it really takes to elevate your game. George provides the other side of the story—what it’s like to watch your child push toward excellence, how to support without overwhelming, and how their relationship has evolved along the way. This episode covers: The path from multi-sport athlete to focused competitorThe unseen work behind becoming eliteHandling failure, pressure, and expectationsParenting through competitive sportsHow sports can deepen family relationships Plus, a fun lightning round to close things out. Whether you're an athlete, parent, or sports fan, this episode is about more than golf—it’s about mindset, growth, and connection.

    37 min

  6. Mar 30

    Episode 7 - Selection Sunday Special

    The brackets are about to drop and the madness is in the air. In this episode of He Said, Son Said, Matt and Nash break down the excitement of Selection Sunday and dive into some classic tournament debates. 🏀 Two Takes, Five Picks – The greatest Cinderella runs in March Madness history 🎯 Shots in the Dark – Teams that could win it all 🔥 Start • Bench • Cut – Tough tournament decisions 👨‍👦 Family Huddle – Why March Madness is one of the best sports traditions there is Two generations. One mic. Way too many opinions. Follow the show and share with the sports fan in your life.

    19 min

  7. Feb 16

    Episode 6 - What’s Next & What Came Before

    Football season is over — so what now? In this episode of He Said, Son Said, we reset and look ahead. 🏀 Two Takes, Five Picks: What we’re most excited about now that football’s done 📚 This Week in Sports History (Feb 15–22) — the wildest moments from the past 🤖 Man vs Machine: NBA playoff predictions — Conference Finals, Finals, and champion 💪 Family Huddle: Resiliency and determination when things don’t go your way Seasons end. Plans change. You adjust. You keep going. Same mic. Two generations. Plenty of opinions.

    24 min

  8. Jan 19

    Episode 5 - Quitter’s Day: When Athletes Quit Loud (and We Don’t)

    Welcome to Episode 5 of He Said, Son Said, a father-son sports podcast where two generations debate sports, culture, and perspective — and somehow still like each other at the end. Using Quitter’s Day as the theme, we kick off with Two Takes, Five Picks, breaking down some of the most unforgettable ways athletes have quit their teams. Next, it’s Man vs Machine as we preview the College Football Playoff Semifinals, pitting gut instinct against data-driven picks. We close with a thoughtful Family Huddle, discussing when quitting might actually be the right move, why “reset” may be a better word, and how so many players thrive only after their original teams quit on them. Sports debates with perspective — this is He Said, Son Said.

    17 min

  9. Jan 5

    Episode 4 - Wishes. Returns. Perspective.

    It’s New Year’s Day, and on He Said, Son Said, that means reflection, returns, and looking ahead. In this episode, Matt and Nash kick off the new year with ... The 12 Days of the New Year — twelve wishes, predictions, and bold takes they’re putting out into the sports universe. From making the Monday after the Super Bowl a national holiday, to Hurricanes Cup dreams, UNC tournament hopes, Panthers playoff aspirations, and a wish that would officially mean they’ve made it, nothing is off the table. They also open the return window with Two Takes, Five Picks: Returns, where both hosts exchange or return some of the biggest things they wish sports would do differently — from coaching comebacks and trades they’d redo to rule changes, NBA courts, and Christmas Day football. The episode closes with a heartfelt Family Huddle, reflecting on what made the past year special, what they’re leaving behind, and why perspective — in sports and in life — matters as the new year begins.

    21 min

  10. Jan 5

    Episode 3 - Holiday Takes & Hard Lessons

    Episode 3 is here 🎄🎧 In this holiday-themed episode of He Said, Son Said, Matt and Nash bring the sports debates with a festive twist. We kick things off with Two Takes, Five Picks, recasting classic holiday movie characters as real athletes — and yes, it gets heated. Then it’s Slang Swap, where dad and son try to explain each other’s slang… in a sports sense. Next up is Man vs. Machine, breaking down the first-round College Football Playoff matchups with gut instinct vs analytics. And in this episode’s Family Huddle, we zoom out and talk about how athletes and teams handle adversity — from Notre Dame’s CFP snub to recent social media missteps — and what sports can teach us about responding when things don’t go our way. Holiday vibes, real conversations, and plenty of father-son chaos. Let us know which takes you agree with… and which ones we got completely wrong.

    29 min

  11. Jan 5

    Episode 2 - Traditions

    Episode 2 is here — and we’re diving straight into the holidays, the hardwood, and a whole lot of father–son chaos. Matt and Nash kick things off with their favorite sports traditions, from iconic entrances to can’t-miss game-day rituals. Then we shift into Christmas mode as the guys reveal what’s on their wish lists this year (and roast each other along the way). The fan-favorite Man vs. Machine segment returns — this time focused on college hoops predictions, conference picks, and who might be cutting the nets down when March rolls around. And as always, we wrap up with Family Huddle, where things get a little sentimental… and a little hilarious. If you love sports, family banter, and a show that doesn’t take itself too seriously — you’re home. Hit play and join the conversation. In this episode: 🏈 Best traditions in sports🎄 Matt & Nash’s Christmas Lists🏀 Man vs. Machine: College Basketball Edition👨‍👦 Family Huddle🔥 And plenty of father–son trash talk Follow the show, leave a review, and share it with someone who needs a laugh today.

    26 min

  12. Jan 5

    Episode 1 - Thankful

    For our official launch, we’re kicking things off with a Thanksgiving-themed episode packed with laughs, hot takes, and real family moments. Matt and Nash dive into what they’re thankful for this year — in sports, in life, and in their relationship — before jumping into a hilarious segment where they compare NFL teams to foods on a Thanksgiving plate. (Yes, some teams are turkey… and some are definitely canned cranberry sauce.) Then we close with our very first Family Huddle, featuring Ron and Chloe Cariker. Together, they share what sports have meant to their family, how games have shaped their bond, and why these parent-child moments matter long after the final whistle. It’s the perfect blend of sports talk, storytelling, and father–child connection — and the exact energy we want to bring to this podcast every week. Thanks for joining us for Episode 1. Let’s huddle up.

    39 min
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About

Sports are the backdrop. Life is the conversation. He Said, Son Said is a father and son exploring life through the language of sports. Every week, Matt and Nash debate the biggest stories in sports, share their own experiences as father and son, and sit down with athletes, coaches, parents, and families whose journeys reveal something bigger than wins and losses. Because the greatest lessons from sports aren't about championships. They're about resilience. Leadership. Family. Purpose. And the relationships that last long after the final score.

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  • Creator
    Matt Haverkamp
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    12
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © 2026 Matt Haverkamp