Healthy Work

Healthy Work Podcast

We are Drs. Keaton Fletcher & Maryana Arvan, two Industrial-Organizational psychologists who care about how to make work a healthier experience for everyone. We run a bi-weekly podcast to bring the science directly to your ears. Please tune in and learn how you can make your work life a healthier experience.  Email us at HealthyWorkPodcast@gmail.com healthywork.substack.com

  1. Vicarious Trauma in the Workplace: Measuring Hidden Harm

    3D AGO

    Vicarious Trauma in the Workplace: Measuring Hidden Harm

    In episode 116, we’re joined by Dr. Beth Stelson, Assistant Professor at Washington University in St. Louis, to unpack an often invisible, but consequential, workplace hazard: vicarious trauma. Vicarious trauma occurs when workers are repeatedly exposed to other people’s traumatic experiences, leading to psychological and physiological stress responses—even when they haven’t experienced the trauma firsthand. This is especially common among healthcare workers, social workers, substance use disorder professionals, and other helping professions, yet it’s rarely treated as a core occupational health issue. We explore: * What vicarious trauma is and how it differs from burnout and PTSD * Why focusing only on symptoms misses the root of the problem * How repeated exposure to trauma at work affects mental health, physical health, job satisfaction, and turnover * New evidence linking vicarious trauma to serious physical health outcomes * The Vicarious Occupational Trauma Exposure (VOTE) Index, a new tool designed to measure where and how trauma exposure happens in the workplace * Why prevention requires organizational and system‑level interventions, not just individual self‑care This conversation reframes vicarious trauma as a workplace hazard, similar to chemical exposure or noise exposure, and makes a compelling case for redesigning work, increasing organizational responsibility, and protecting the health of the workers our communities depend on most. If you work in healthcare, social services, public health, or any trauma‑exposed role, or if you manage, study, or support people who do, this episode offers a powerful, research‑driven look at why vicarious trauma matters and what can actually be done about it. You can find Dr. Stelson here: https://publichealth.washu.edu/faculty/elisabeth-stelson/ You can find the VOTE here: https://psycnet.apa.org/psycarticles/2027-28298-001.pdf This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit healthywork.substack.com

    23 min
  2. How Current Policy Shapes Worker Well-Being and IO Psychology

    11/17/2025

    How Current Policy Shapes Worker Well-Being and IO Psychology

    In episode 109, we sit down with Drs. Ian Katz and Shelly Rauvola, co-editors of a groundbreaking special issue in Industrial and Organizational Psychology. Together, we explore how current public policy changes in the United States are reshaping the world of work, from employee well-being and marginalized worker experiences to the future of I-O psychology education and research. Key takeaways include: * How policy changes impact HR practices, training, and organizational functioning * The chilling effect of political climates on academic freedom and research * Why behavioral scientists must engage in policy conversations * How I-O psychology can respond using existing theories and evidence-based practices * A call to action for researchers and practitioners to advocate for worker dignity and evidence-based decision-making This episode is essential listening for anyone invested in the future of work, science advocacy, and the role of IO psychology in shaping policy. Find the special issue here: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/industrial-and-organizational-psychology/issue/380836BA2B93123CE626AACDCB5DF7DA Find Ian Katz here: https://csh.depaul.edu/faculty-staff/faculty-a-z/Pages/psychology/ian-katz.aspx Find Shelly Rauvola here: https://csh.depaul.edu/faculty-staff/faculty-a-z/Pages/psychology/shelly-rauvola.aspx This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit healthywork.substack.com

    22 min
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We are Drs. Keaton Fletcher & Maryana Arvan, two Industrial-Organizational psychologists who care about how to make work a healthier experience for everyone. We run a bi-weekly podcast to bring the science directly to your ears. Please tune in and learn how you can make your work life a healthier experience.  Email us at HealthyWorkPodcast@gmail.com healthywork.substack.com

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