Here Comes the Sun

Brooke Meservy & Nadia Miller
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Welcome to Here Comes the Sun! We’re so glad you’re here. We’re Nadia Miller and Brooke Meservy, two friends having heartfelt conversations from opposite sides of the US. Through laughter, honesty, and deep reflection, we explore life’s big questions—personal growth, spirituality, relationships, and what it means to truly be seen and to see others. Each episode invites you into a warm space where joy and vulnerability live side by side. No comparing, no competing—only celebrating, connecting, and growing together. This is our real-time journey of discovery, and we're inviting you along because the world needs spaces like this now more than ever. Step into the sun with us and a new kind of friendship, one that shows how connection, curiosity, and care can bridge divides and create something bigger than either of us alone. herecomesthesunpodcast.substack.com

  1. Aug 4

    On Creativity

    In this episode Nadia and Brooke join again with fellow coaches and creatives, Elena Cheah and Heather Richard for a vital conversation about creativity where they share what creativity is and how they’ve made it their own by expanding their definitions of what it means to be creative and how they’ve taught and mentored others so that their creativity is part of themselves and not waiting for someone to tell them they are good enough. This episode dives into how creativity is a universal energy, how community fuels our creative flow and faith in the process, and the importance of embracing imperfection and play in our artistic journeys. Whether you’re a seasoned artist, just like to dabble, or see the art of living as your creative contribution, this conversation offers practical insights and soulful encouragement to nurture your unique expression. Mentioned in this episode: Tara Mohr See her work and courses and her book Playing Big Felicia Rose Chavez: The Anti-Racist Writing Workshop: Website Book Link If you would like to find out more about Heather Richard, check out her Substack at Story Catching Studios If you would like to find out more about Elena Cheah, visit her website here or find her work at her Substack Let the Artist Lead Photo Credit Time Stamps: 0:00 Welcome & season two wrap-up 1:11 Creativity as messy, imperfect, and in progress 3:58 Everyone is creative—even in everyday life 6:41 Cooking, energy, and broadening the definition of creativity 8:55 Letting go of perfection and the pressure of the masters 11:14 Why process matters more than the finished product 13:59 Finding joy and stamina when creativity gets hard 16:10 Play, create, release: moving through the creative cycle 18:45 How community unlocks creativity 20:53 Improvisation, music, and creative healing 25:38 Releasing the need for praise, criticism, and outside validation 30:32 Exhaustion, rest, and making space for creative energy 33:12 Small creative practices and the “daily-ish” approach 34:54 The art of living: creativity in food, beauty, and ordinary life 38:13 Why stepping away can lead to better ideas 39:16 Creativity as a lifelong process 40:18 Final encouragement: trust your inner creator 41:55 Closing thoughts and season sign-off Get full access to Here Comes the Sun at herecomesthesunpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

    On Creativity

  2. Jul 14

    I Left Mormonism: Brooke's Story

    In this conversation, Brooke shares her journey of growing up Mormon, navigating the structures that shaped her world, and finding the courage to leave when she realized she could no longer be Mormon and also live in alignment with her understanding of love, belonging, and human worth. Together, Brooke and Nadia explore questions of belonging, identity, love, and what happens when our understanding of compassion grows beyond the boundaries we once knew. This is not a conversation about judgment or blame, but an invitation to listen more deeply—to consider how we hold our beliefs, how we treat one another, and how we continue searching for a love without limits. Whether you have experienced a shift in faith, questioned parts of your own identity, or simply want to better understand another person’s journey, this episode offers a thoughtful reflection on courage, connection, and our shared humanity. In this episode: * Brooke’s experience growing up in the Mormon church * The questions that led her to reconsider her beliefs * The grief and courage involved in leaving a community * The search for belonging beyond certainty * How compassion can help us bridge differences * Imagining a world with more curiosity, kindness, and understanding 00:00 Opening banter: summer, routines, and family vacations 01:47 Brooke begins sharing her Mormon upbringing 02:26 Faith, sensitivity, and wanting to be “good” 07:20 Community, belonging, and the limits Brooke experienced 10:37 Studying abroad and beginning to question missionary work 12:10 A friend’s rejection for his sexuality and Brooke’s decision to leave the church 13:54 Perfectionism, anxiety, and finding a personal spirituality 16:35 Growing beyond fear and judgment 18:54 Sacredness, ritual, and creating inclusive community 21:42 Friendship, conflict, and making room for difference 25:50 Why leaving was the hardest decision Brooke made 29:50 A dream that reshaped Brooke’s understanding of compassion 31:55 A softer, more curious world for the next generation 33:43 Closing thoughts Get full access to Here Comes the Sun at herecomesthesunpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

    I Left Mormonism: Brooke's Story

  3. Jun 23

    Nature, Our Long-Lost Friend and Healer: A Conversation with Kathleen McIntyre

    In this inspiring conversation, Nadia and Brooke sit down with Kathleen McIntyre, a clinical social worker, forest therapy practitioner, educator, and author of The Nature Reset. Kathleen shares her journey of discovering the healing power of nature and how this set her on a course to help others do the same. Drawing from her multidisciplinary background, Kathleen shares how reconnecting with the natural world can support mental, emotional, and physical health, and cultivating a deeper awareness of being in our bodies is an essential part of the healing process and connecting with the natural world. She discusses the principles of somatic and nature-based therapies, simple ways to strengthen our connection with the living world, and practical exercises that engage the senses and encourage presence and well-being. The conversation also touches on the significance of outdoor play for children, the adaptogenic effects of nature, and the upcoming opportunities in her forest therapy training program. To learn more about Kathleen, her work, and her school, please visit the links below. katmcintyre.com https://www.heartwoodschoolforesttherapy.com/ Kathleen’s Book The Nature Reset Also mentioned: Tara Mohr Playing Big Katie Asmus Somatic Nature Therapy Institute Time Stamps: Introduction to Nature-Based Healing 00:00 Kathleen’s Journey with Nature 02:09 The Connection Between Nature and Mental Health 04:42 Understanding Somatic Therapy 07:04 Bridging Science and Spirituality 09:28 Nature as a Therapeutic Ally 12:32 Daily Practices for Connecting with Nature 12:57 Connecting with Nature Through the Senses 29:02 The Heartwood Therapy Guide Program 31:43 Finding and Following Your Path 34:28 Nature as an Adaptogen 36:03 Engaging Children with Nature 40:03 The Importance of Outdoor Play 43:15 Upcoming Opportunities in Forest Therapy 45:16 Get full access to Here Comes the Sun at herecomesthesunpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

  4. Jun 10

    From Pressure Cooker Spirituality to Sacred Flexibility

    In this episode, Nadia and Brooke explore the freedom they’ve found in approaching their spiritual journeys with greater flexibility, embracing what resonates rather than seeking certainty at all costs. They discuss leaving behind a pressure-cooker spirituality that was both exhausting and unreliable for long, and how this shift has helped them become better listeners, think more critically about the messages they receive from spiritual communities and media, and show deeper respect for both their own paths and those of others. Through personal stories and reflection, they consider the importance of reverence, curiosity, and human connection in an age of division and extremism. Chapters 00:00 The Journey of Voice and Expression 02:45 Exploring Spirituality and Flexibility 04:33 The Importance of Questioning Beliefs 06:45 Navigating Personal Growth and Critical Thinking 08:57 Finding Reverence in Different Spaces 11:20 Respecting Individual Journeys 13:15 The Challenge of Parenting and Empathy 14:39 The Balance of Speaking Up and Listening 16:31 Embracing Uncertainty and Flexibility 18:33 The Role of Respect in Conversations 21:20 The Impact of Media and Information 23:10 Celebrating Individual Paths and Growth Speaker and Activist Mentioned Loretta J. Ross Photo Credit Get full access to Here Comes the Sun at herecomesthesunpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

  5. May 20

    Raised on Quick Fixes: What We Learned About Habit Change, Failure, and Grace

    In this episode, Brooke and Nadia take on the topic of habit change and explore their formative experiences when it comes to habits, citing the 80’s as a time when society taught them to power through and look for quick fixes and gimmicks, and how that transformed over time with failure and life impulses toward more meaning, grace, and connectedness in their pursuits. Book Mentioned: Mini Habits by Stephen Guise Photo Credit Get full access to Here Comes the Sun at herecomesthesunpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

  6. Apr 28

    Is Beauty a Beast?

    In this episode, Brooke and Nadia welcome back Heather Richard and Elena Cheah from Season 2, Episode 1: ‘The Gift of Grief’, for a lively panel discussion on the complex and nuanced relationship with beauty. They talk about their first exposure to physical beauty ideals, the different societal pressures that shaped their perceptions of beauty, and their personal journeys toward freedom of self-expression and self-acceptance, making room for ongoing discovery. Through personal stories, honest reflection, and curiosity, they paint a varied tableau of experiences and values related to beauty and share what they hope younger generations will carry forward, including that we have power as individuals to help others feel beautiful around us by celebrating many different forms of self-expression toward or away from societal ideals. Photo Credit: Brooke Meservy 0:00 Introduction to Beauty Standards Discussion 02:06 Personal Experiences with Beauty and Upbringing 12:21 Navigating Beauty in Adolescence and Young Adulthood 24:44 The Impact of Aging on Perceptions of Beauty 30:59 The Duality of Beauty: Fun vs. Pressure 33:53 Exploring Beauty and Aging 38:32 Individuality in Style and Expression 42:42 The Development of Self-Expression 48:28Societal Pressures and Aging 55:21 Redefining Beauty Standards 01:01:45 Messages for the Next Generation Get full access to Here Comes the Sun at herecomesthesunpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

  7. Apr 22

    The Heart of Coaching

    This episode is about the power of life coaching. Nadia and Brooke introduce life coaching, address the stigma attached to it, and share how neither of them took it very seriously when they first heard about it. They talk about what coaching is and isn’t in their version. They discuss the priority of meeting others where they are and allowing them to find their own answers. They note the keys we bring each other to unlock our paths when we give wide-open witnessing and ask powerful questions. They talk about their experience of being coached by each other, the magic of it, and what a gift it is to witness another human being in their process of unique discovery. They wonder what the world would be like if humans supported each other with reverent respect, deep listening, and trust to know their own path; supporting and coaxing out gifts and ways forward, and received this in return. What would we create next? The book mentioned is How to Know a Person by David Brooks. If you are interested in experiencing coaching with Brooke or Nadia, you can find more information here. For Brooke: click here for website For Nadia: click here for website Photo Credit 00:00 Introduction to Coaching and Stigma 00:53 Personal Experiences with Coaching 03:11 The Role of Space and Witnessing in Coaching 07:21 The Magic of Coaching and Intuition 10:14 Coaching vs. Therapy 13:50 Tailored Coaching: Personalization and Identity 16:11 Navigating Coaching Conversations 16:11 Exploring Coaching Styles 17:17 The Magic of Imagery in Coaching 19:36 The Role of Intuition in Coaching 20:57 Finding Your Coaching Style 22:16 The Importance of Client-Coach Compatibility 24:07 Creating a Safe Coaching Environment 27:13 The Power of Self-Discovery in Coaching 29:11 The Journey of Personal Growth 30:45 Envisioning a World Beyond Conflict Get full access to Here Comes the Sun at herecomesthesunpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

  8. Apr 1

    Sarah's Birth Story

    In this episode, Brooke and Nadia are excited to welcome special guest, Sarah Martin, a real estate agent, singer, and mother in greater Charlotte, N. Carolina. Sarah shares her birth story of her third child and the transformative experience it was for her, and how she came away with something more than her baby. Join us for a conversation about the power of women supporting women and how sometimes things happen exactly as needed for us to birth parts of ourselves. This episode is about returning to something ancient and deeply rooted—the wisdom of the body, the power of feminine connection, and the sacredness of birth. It’s about slowing down, listening inward, and trusting. It is about learning to receive and to support. Baby feet and Daisy Photo credit 00:00 The Power of Women’s Circles 02:12 Intentionality in Supportive Relationships 03:01 Embracing the Feminine Process 05:20 The Journey of Pregnancy and Birth 06:52 Cultural Perspectives on Femininity 09:23 The Role of Doulas and Holistic Approaches 11:23 Creating a Safe Space for Vulnerability 13:36 Celebrating Differences in Women’s Groups 16:05 The Birth Story of Noah 24:30 Embracing Slowness Before Birth 27:52 The Sacredness of Female Support 29:45 The Journey to Labor Begins 38:34 The Intensity of Labor and Birth 41:47 The Intense Journey to the Hospital 43:08 The Birth Experience 44:38 The Golden Hour of Motherhood 46:56 The Arrival of Jeff and Family Dynamics 49:07 Empowerment Through Birth 53:35 Support Systems in Postpartum Care/Postpartum Doula 56:50 The Importance of Community Support Get full access to Here Comes the Sun at herecomesthesunpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

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Welcome to Here Comes the Sun! We’re so glad you’re here. We’re Nadia Miller and Brooke Meservy, two friends having heartfelt conversations from opposite sides of the US. Through laughter, honesty, and deep reflection, we explore life’s big questions—personal growth, spirituality, relationships, and what it means to truly be seen and to see others. Each episode invites you into a warm space where joy and vulnerability live side by side. No comparing, no competing—only celebrating, connecting, and growing together. This is our real-time journey of discovery, and we're inviting you along because the world needs spaces like this now more than ever. Step into the sun with us and a new kind of friendship, one that shows how connection, curiosity, and care can bridge divides and create something bigger than either of us alone. herecomesthesunpodcast.substack.com

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  • Creator
    Brooke Meservy & Nadia Miller
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    19
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Brooke Meservy, Nadia Miller
  • Show Website
    Here Comes the Sun

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