Here Comes the Sun

Brooke Meservy & Nadia Miller

Welcome to Here Comes the Sun! We’re so glad you’re here. We’re Nadia Miller and Brooke Meservy, two friends having heartfelt conversations from opposite sides of the US. Through laughter, honesty, and deep reflection, we explore life’s big questions—personal growth, spirituality, relationships, and what it means to truly be seen and to see others. Each episode invites you into a warm space where joy and vulnerability live side by side. No comparing, no competing—only celebrating, connecting, and growing together. This is our real-time journey of discovery, and we're inviting you along because the world needs spaces like this now more than ever. Step into the sun with us and a new kind of friendship, one that shows how connection, curiosity, and care can bridge divides and create something bigger than either of us alone. herecomesthesunpodcast.substack.com

  1. Jul 14

    I Left Mormonism: Brooke's Story

    In this conversation, Brooke shares her journey of growing up Mormon, navigating the structures that shaped her world, and finding the courage to leave when she realized she could no longer be Mormon and also live in alignment with her understanding of love, belonging, and human worth. Together, Brooke and Nadia explore questions of belonging, identity, love, and what happens when our understanding of compassion grows beyond the boundaries we once knew. This is not a conversation about judgment or blame, but an invitation to listen more deeply—to consider how we hold our beliefs, how we treat one another, and how we continue searching for a love without limits. Whether you have experienced a shift in faith, questioned parts of your own identity, or simply want to better understand another person’s journey, this episode offers a thoughtful reflection on courage, connection, and our shared humanity. In this episode: * Brooke’s experience growing up in the Mormon church * The questions that led her to reconsider her beliefs * The grief and courage involved in leaving a community * The search for belonging beyond certainty * How compassion can help us bridge differences * Imagining a world with more curiosity, kindness, and understanding 00:00 Opening banter: summer, routines, and family vacations 01:47 Brooke begins sharing her Mormon upbringing 02:26 Faith, sensitivity, and wanting to be “good” 07:20 Community, belonging, and the limits Brooke experienced 10:37 Studying abroad and beginning to question missionary work 12:10 A friend’s rejection for his sexuality and Brooke’s decision to leave the church 13:54 Perfectionism, anxiety, and finding a personal spirituality 16:35 Growing beyond fear and judgment 18:54 Sacredness, ritual, and creating inclusive community 21:42 Friendship, conflict, and making room for difference 25:50 Why leaving was the hardest decision Brooke made 29:50 A dream that reshaped Brooke’s understanding of compassion 31:55 A softer, more curious world for the next generation 33:43 Closing thoughts Get full access to Here Comes the Sun at herecomesthesunpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

    I Left Mormonism: Brooke's Story
  2. Jun 23

    Nature, Our Long-Lost Friend and Healer: A Conversation with Kathleen McIntyre

    In this inspiring conversation, Nadia and Brooke sit down with Kathleen McIntyre, a clinical social worker, forest therapy practitioner, educator, and author of The Nature Reset. Kathleen shares her journey of discovering the healing power of nature and how this set her on a course to help others do the same. Drawing from her multidisciplinary background, Kathleen shares how reconnecting with the natural world can support mental, emotional, and physical health, and cultivating a deeper awareness of being in our bodies is an essential part of the healing process and connecting with the natural world. She discusses the principles of somatic and nature-based therapies, simple ways to strengthen our connection with the living world, and practical exercises that engage the senses and encourage presence and well-being. The conversation also touches on the significance of outdoor play for children, the adaptogenic effects of nature, and the upcoming opportunities in her forest therapy training program. To learn more about Kathleen, her work, and her school, please visit the links below. katmcintyre.com https://www.heartwoodschoolforesttherapy.com/ Kathleen’s Book The Nature Reset Also mentioned: Tara Mohr Playing Big Katie Asmus Somatic Nature Therapy Institute Time Stamps: Introduction to Nature-Based Healing 00:00 Kathleen’s Journey with Nature 02:09 The Connection Between Nature and Mental Health 04:42 Understanding Somatic Therapy 07:04 Bridging Science and Spirituality 09:28 Nature as a Therapeutic Ally 12:32 Daily Practices for Connecting with Nature 12:57 Connecting with Nature Through the Senses 29:02 The Heartwood Therapy Guide Program 31:43 Finding and Following Your Path 34:28 Nature as an Adaptogen 36:03 Engaging Children with Nature 40:03 The Importance of Outdoor Play 43:15 Upcoming Opportunities in Forest Therapy 45:16 Get full access to Here Comes the Sun at herecomesthesunpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

  3. Apr 22

    The Heart of Coaching

    This episode is about the power of life coaching. Nadia and Brooke introduce life coaching, address the stigma attached to it, and share how neither of them took it very seriously when they first heard about it. They talk about what coaching is and isn’t in their version. They discuss the priority of meeting others where they are and allowing them to find their own answers. They note the keys we bring each other to unlock our paths when we give wide-open witnessing and ask powerful questions. They talk about their experience of being coached by each other, the magic of it, and what a gift it is to witness another human being in their process of unique discovery. They wonder what the world would be like if humans supported each other with reverent respect, deep listening, and trust to know their own path; supporting and coaxing out gifts and ways forward, and received this in return. What would we create next? The book mentioned is How to Know a Person by David Brooks. If you are interested in experiencing coaching with Brooke or Nadia, you can find more information here. For Brooke: click here for website For Nadia: click here for website Photo Credit 00:00 Introduction to Coaching and Stigma 00:53 Personal Experiences with Coaching 03:11 The Role of Space and Witnessing in Coaching 07:21 The Magic of Coaching and Intuition 10:14 Coaching vs. Therapy 13:50 Tailored Coaching: Personalization and Identity 16:11 Navigating Coaching Conversations 16:11 Exploring Coaching Styles 17:17 The Magic of Imagery in Coaching 19:36 The Role of Intuition in Coaching 20:57 Finding Your Coaching Style 22:16 The Importance of Client-Coach Compatibility 24:07 Creating a Safe Coaching Environment 27:13 The Power of Self-Discovery in Coaching 29:11 The Journey of Personal Growth 30:45 Envisioning a World Beyond Conflict Get full access to Here Comes the Sun at herecomesthesunpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

  4. Apr 1

    Sarah's Birth Story

    In this episode, Brooke and Nadia are excited to welcome special guest, Sarah Martin, a real estate agent, singer, and mother in greater Charlotte, N. Carolina. Sarah shares her birth story of her third child and the transformative experience it was for her, and how she came away with something more than her baby. Join us for a conversation about the power of women supporting women and how sometimes things happen exactly as needed for us to birth parts of ourselves. This episode is about returning to something ancient and deeply rooted—the wisdom of the body, the power of feminine connection, and the sacredness of birth. It’s about slowing down, listening inward, and trusting. It is about learning to receive and to support. Baby feet and Daisy Photo credit 00:00 The Power of Women’s Circles 02:12 Intentionality in Supportive Relationships 03:01 Embracing the Feminine Process 05:20 The Journey of Pregnancy and Birth 06:52 Cultural Perspectives on Femininity 09:23 The Role of Doulas and Holistic Approaches 11:23 Creating a Safe Space for Vulnerability 13:36 Celebrating Differences in Women’s Groups 16:05 The Birth Story of Noah 24:30 Embracing Slowness Before Birth 27:52 The Sacredness of Female Support 29:45 The Journey to Labor Begins 38:34 The Intensity of Labor and Birth 41:47 The Intense Journey to the Hospital 43:08 The Birth Experience 44:38 The Golden Hour of Motherhood 46:56 The Arrival of Jeff and Family Dynamics 49:07 Empowerment Through Birth 53:35 Support Systems in Postpartum Care/Postpartum Doula 56:50 The Importance of Community Support Get full access to Here Comes the Sun at herecomesthesunpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

  5. Mar 17

    On Marriage

    In this conversation, Nadia and Brooke take on the subject of marriage. They acknowledge marriage’s multifaceted nature and that they are only offering their slice of the pie from within a whole world of ideas, experiences, and perspectives surrounding marriage. They emphasize the importance to them of the values of growth, support, and safety, and explore the need for community in the marriage equation. They acknowledge that staying in the hard has the power to usher in growth and that this can be rewarding, but that only a participant in marriage can know for themselves if it is worth it to stay through the hard times or let go. They share personal stories, insights on self-love, and the importance of authentic connection in relationships. They respect that marriage may not be for everyone, but being relational beings, marriage has been a way they have appreciated growing and learning. The book mentioned by Richard Schwartz is called You Are the One. The homesteading show mentioned is called Back to the Frontier. There are many videos on YouTube discussing Agrihoods. Photo Credit Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Marriage Perspectives 02:30 The Growth Journey in Marriage 03:51 Cultural Narratives vs. Reality of Marriage 06:13 Vulnerability and Self-Reflection in Relationships 08:40 Safety and Emotional Support in Marriage 11:03 The Dynamics of Control and Caregiving 13:11 The Evolution of Roles in Marriage 15:32 The Importance of Mutual Support 17:25 Conclusion and Reflections on Marriage 20:52 The Rise of Agri-hoods and Community Living 24:25 The Pressure of Modern Life on Marriage 26:47 The Importance of Community in Marriage 28:50 Growth Through Challenges in Relationships 31:58 The Reality of Marriage: Perfection vs. Growth 36:58 Understanding the Basics of Relationships Get full access to Here Comes the Sun at herecomesthesunpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

About

Welcome to Here Comes the Sun! We’re so glad you’re here. We’re Nadia Miller and Brooke Meservy, two friends having heartfelt conversations from opposite sides of the US. Through laughter, honesty, and deep reflection, we explore life’s big questions—personal growth, spirituality, relationships, and what it means to truly be seen and to see others. Each episode invites you into a warm space where joy and vulnerability live side by side. No comparing, no competing—only celebrating, connecting, and growing together. This is our real-time journey of discovery, and we're inviting you along because the world needs spaces like this now more than ever. Step into the sun with us and a new kind of friendship, one that shows how connection, curiosity, and care can bridge divides and create something bigger than either of us alone. herecomesthesunpodcast.substack.com