ABA Business Leaders

Stephen Smith
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  • Entrepreneurship

Join us as we dive deep into the world of Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA), exploring real-world challenges and practical strategies to improve the quality, ethics, and sustainability of ABA services. Hosted by April & Stephen, the team behind 3 Pie Squared, each episode brings actionable insights for practice owners, clinicians, and leaders in the field—whether you’re just getting started or scaling your business. Expect candid conversations, expert interviews, and honest advice about supervision, billing, hiring, training, compliance, and more. Our goal? To help you build an ABA practice that serves clients ethically and effectively—while supporting your team and growing your business with purpose. 🔗 Learn more about our courses, handbooks, and consulting services at www.3piesquared.com.

  1. 5d ago

    National Wellness Month: I Hate My Job!

    In this special National Wellness Month re-release, Stephen and April Smith revisit one of the most honest conversations they've had about burnout, workplace culture, and the realities of working in ABA. Inspired by real posts shared across Reddit, TikTok, Twitter, and other online communities, they react to the frustrations, challenges, and ethical dilemmas that many RBTs, BCBAs, and ABA professionals experience every day.  Drawing on their experience building, scaling, and exiting a seven-figure ABA company, Stephen and April discuss why so many clinicians feel unsupported, where business owners often go wrong, and how ethical leadership creates better outcomes for both staff and clients.   Whether you're a clinician, practice owner, or aspiring ABA entrepreneur, this episode offers an honest look at the issues affecting the industry, along with practical insights on building a healthier workplace.  In this episode:  Why Stephen and April decided to react to real ABA workplace stories Common reasons ABA professionals say they "hate their job" The impact of burnout, poor leadership, and unrealistic expectations Ethical challenges facing RBTs and BCBAs How business owners can improve staff retention and workplace culture Why advocating for yourself and your clients matters Creating sustainable, values-driven ABA businesses  Have a question for Stephen and April?  Call the ABA Business Leaders Hotline:  📞 (737) 330-1432  Resources & Links  Business Essentials List  https://www.3piesquared.com/blog/the-essential-list-for-a-successful-business_24  ABA Business Leaders Support Group  https://forms.office.com/r/cigPR8wFFC Schedule a consultation with Stephen  https://3piesquared.com/stephen-booking-page  Free ABA Business Readiness Assessment  https://3piesquared.com/aba-business-readiness-assessment  ABA Billing Tips Guide  https://3piesquared.com/productDetails/ABA_Billing_Tips  ABA Business Leaders Podcast CEUs  https://3piesquared.com/productDetails/ABA_Business_Leaders_Podcast_CEUs    This podcast was produced by Max McLellan of MKM Audio.  Want to start or grow a podcast for your business or brand?  https://www.mkmaudio.com/contact

    National Wellness Month: I Hate My Job!

  2. Jul 30

    Training and Supervision with Allyson Wharam

    How much training should an RBT receive before working with clients? Is online training as effective as in-person instruction? And why are so many talented clinicians leaving the ABA profession?  In this episode of the ABA Business Leaders Podcast, Stephen and April Smith are joined by Allyson Wharam to discuss how effective staff training directly impacts clinical quality, employee retention, supervision, and long-term business success. Drawing on research, real-world experience, and lessons from working with ABA organisations across the industry, the conversation explores why organisations need to move beyond minimum compliance and instead build intentional learning systems that develop confident clinicians and stronger leaders.  Whether you're launching a new ABA practice or managing multiple locations, this episode offers practical insights into creating a culture where employees continue learning, supervisors are equipped to lead, and businesses retain great people for the long term.  In this episode you'll learn:  How top ABA firms win with great trainingWhy smart course design beats the formatMust-know rules for staff trainingHow growth keeps your best staffHow to build high-performing RBTs, BCBAs, and leadersHow coaching drives better resultsHow to create a culture that keeps growing Sponsored by MarginKeepers  This episode is proudly sponsored by MarginKeepers, the accounting firm built specifically for ABA businesses. From bookkeeping and payroll to financial reporting and strategic guidance, they helps practice owners understand their numbers, improve profitability, and make confident business decisions.  Learn more:https://3piesquared.com/business-affiliate/MarginKeepers Have a question for Stephen and April?  📞 ABA Business Leaders Hotline: (737) 330-1432    Resources & Links  MarginKeepers  https://3piesquared.com/business-affiliate/MarginKeepers  Business Essentials List  https://www.3piesquared.com/blog/the-essential-list-for-a-successful-business_24  Schedule a consultation with Stephen  https://3piesquared.com/stephen-booking-page  Free ABA Business Readiness Assessment  https://3piesquared.com/aba-business-readiness-assessment  ABA Billing Tips Guide  https://3piesquared.com/productDetails/ABA_Billing_Tips  ABA Business Leaders Podcast CEUs  https://3piesquared.com/productDetails/ABA_Business_Leaders_Podcast_CEUs    This podcast was produced by Max McLellan of MKM Audio.  https://www.mkmaudio.com/contact

    Training and Supervision with Allyson Wharam

  3. Jul 23

    Is ABA Cancelled?

    Is ABA Canceled? What Every ABA Business Owner Needs to Know  With social media full of headlines asking whether ABA is "getting canceled" or if the industry is in crisis, it's easy for business owners to feel uncertain about the future. In this episode, Stephen and April tackle those concerns head-on.  Rather than focusing on fear, they explore what's really happening in the ABA industry, why increased scrutiny isn't necessarily a bad thing, and how ethical providers can position themselves for long-term success. From documentation and billing practices to clinical quality and leadership, this conversation is a practical reminder that strong businesses are built on strong foundations.  This episode is for ABA practice owners, clinical directors, and aspiring entrepreneurs who want to build an ethical, sustainable, and compliant business. Whether you're just starting your practice or leading an established organization, Stephen and April share practical insights to help you navigate industry changes with confidence while continuing to deliver high-quality care.  In this episode, you'll learn:  Why increased oversight of ABA providers is happening. Whether the ABA industry is truly "in trouble." The difference between unethical providers and ethical business owners. Common compliance and documentation mistakes that create unnecessary risk. Why quality assurance should become part of your regular operations. How small operational improvements can protect your practice. Why business owners shouldn't make decisions based on fear or social media narratives. Free resources available to help strengthen your ABA business.   Have a question for Stephen and April?  📞 Call the ABA Business Leaders Hotline: (737) 330-1432  This podcast was produced by Max McLellan of MKM Audio  Want to start or grow a podcast for your business or brand? Reach out here: www.mkmaudio.com     Resources & Links  Business Essentials List  https://www.3piesquared.com/blog/the-essential-list-for-a-successful-business_24  ABA Business Leaders Support Group  https://forms.office.com/r/cigPR8wFFC Schedule a Consultation with Stephen  https://3piesquared.com/stephen-booking-page  Free ABA Business Readiness Assessment  https://3piesquared.com/aba-business-readiness-assessment  ABA Billing Tips Guide  https://3piesquared.com/productDetails/ABA_Billing_Tips  ABA Business Leaders Podcast CEUs  https://3piesquared.com/productDetails/ABA_Business_Leaders_Podcast_CEUs

    Is ABA Cancelled?

  4. Jul 16

    The Cost of Saving Money in Your ABA Business 

    Saving money sounds like good business. But what happens when being frugal starts costing you more in lost time, staff frustration, compliance risk, and burnout?  In this episode of the ABA Business Leaders Podcast, Stephen and April Smith unpack the hidden cost of underinvesting in your ABA business. Drawing from their own experience of piecing together free and low-cost systems, they explore why the cheapest option is not always the most cost-effective one.  Have a Question for Stephen and April?  Call the ABA Business Leaders Hotline: (737) 330-1432  Resources & Links  Business Essentials List  https://www.3piesquared.com/blog/the-essential-list-for-a-successful-business_24  ABA Business Leaders Support Group  https://forms.office.com/r/cigPR8wFFC Schedule a Consultation with Stephen  https://3piesquared.com/stephen-booking-page  Free ABA Business Readiness Assessment  https://3piesquared.com/aba-business-readiness-assessment  ABA Billing Tips Guide  https://3piesquared.com/productDetails/ABA_Billing_Tips  ABA Business Leaders Podcast CEUs  https://3piesquared.com/productDetails/ABA_Business_Leaders_Podcast_CEUs    This podcast was produced by Max McLellan of MKM Audio.  Want to start or grow a podcast for your business or brand? Reach out here:  https://www.mkmaudio.com/contact

    The Cost of Saving Money in Your ABA Business 

  5. Jul 9

    Top 5 Employee Handbook Policies Every ABA Business Needs

    Ever wondered why handbooks are so crucial to ABA business success? A strong employee handbook helps create consistency, protects your business, and gives your team confidence in how your organization operates. In this episode, Stephen and April Smith continue their discussion on building the operational foundations of a successful ABA practice by breaking down five essential policies every employee handbook should include. From confidentiality and electronic communication to social media, safety procedures, and mandatory reporting, they explain why clear expectations reduce risk and improve accountability across your organization. Whether you're launching your first ABA company or refining your existing systems, this episode offers practical guidance to help protect both your business and your employees. Resources & Links  Business Essentials List  https://www.3piesquared.com/blog/the-essential-list-for-a-successful-business_24  ABA Business Leaders Support Group  https://forms.office.com/r/cigPR8wFFC Schedule a Consultation with Stephen  https://3piesquared.com/stephen-booking-page  Free ABA Business Readiness Assessment  https://3piesquared.com/aba-business-readiness-assessment  ABA Billing Tips Guide  https://3piesquared.com/productDetails/ABA_Billing_Tips  ABA Business Leaders Podcast CEUs  https://3piesquared.com/productDetails/ABA_Business_Leaders_Podcast_CEUs    Have a question for Stephen and April?  📞 Call the ABA Business Leaders Hotline: (737) 330-1432    This podcast was produced by Max McLellan of MKM Audio.  Want to start or grow a podcast for your business or brand?  https://www.mkmaudio.com/contact

    Top 5 Employee Handbook Policies Every ABA Business Needs

  6. Jul 2

    Podswap: In the Field with Allyson Wharam

    A Special Podcast Swap with Allyson's In the Field Podcast  This week, April and Stephen Smith of 3 Pie Squared and the ABA Business Leaders Podcast joined Allyson's In the Field: The ABA Podcast for a special podcast swap episode.  April and Stephen share the story behind building and operating their ABA practice for 12 years before transitioning into full-time consulting. The conversation explores the realities of starting an ABA business, scaling sustainably, building leadership teams, creating operational systems, and maintaining ethical profitability.  The episode also discusses the challenges of delegation, founder identity, work-life boundaries, and why many BCBAs® are unprepared for the leadership demands of business ownership.  Key Topics  ✔ Starting an ABA practice without a business background  ✔ Why founders need a clear vision before scaling  ✔ Building systems that support delegation and growth  ✔ The relationship between profitability and ethical practice  ✔ Developing BCBAs into effective leaders  Key Takeaways  You don't know what you don't know when starting a business. Vision should guide growth, not follow it. Systems create consistency, scalability, and freedom. Profitability supports ethical clinical practice. Leadership skills must be intentionally developed. Founder identity should extend beyond the business itself.   Resources & Links  Grab Stephen’s Book Here!: "The ABA Business Leader's Guide: How to Start, Grow, and Sustain an Ethical ABA Practice Without Losing Your Soul" by April and Stephen Smith Free Consultation Booking Link  &  Business Essentials List Listen to Allyson’s Podcast SideKick Learning ABA Business Leaders Support Group:

    Podswap: In the Field with Allyson Wharam

  7. Jun 25

    System That Support ABA with Brian Lopez

    In this episode of the ABA Business Leaders Podcast, Stephen and April Smith sit down with Dr. Brian Lopez, PhD, BCBA, licensed clinical psychologist, behavior analyst, and Director of Psychological Services and Research at JumpStart Autism Collective. Drawing on more than 20 years of experience in autism services, diagnostics, and healthcare leadership, Dr. Lopez explains why better outcomes for ABA learners require more than strong clinical programming. From early diagnosis and interdisciplinary collaboration to telehealth innovation and scalable service delivery, he shares how providers can build systems that support children, families, clinicians, and communities. What Systems Best Support ABA Learners? Dr. Lopez explains how coordinated systems connecting diagnostics, ABA therapy, healthcare providers, schools, families, and community resources create stronger learner outcomes. Why Is Early Autism Diagnosis So Important? Early diagnosis helps families access services sooner, reduce delays in intervention, and support better developmental outcomes for children with autism. How Can ABA Providers Improve Access to Care? The conversation explores how telehealth, operational systems, and innovative service models are expanding ABA services to underserved and rural communities. Why Does Collaboration Matter in ABA? Dr. Lopez highlights the importance of collaboration between psychologists, BCBAs, speech-language pathologists, occupational therapists, pediatricians, and families in supporting learner success. What Can ABA Business Owners Learn From This Episode? Listeners will gain insights into leadership, sustainable growth, scalable systems, and maintaining clinical quality while expanding services. Have a Question for Stephen and April? 📞 ABA Business Leaders Hotline: (737) 330-1432 --------- Produced by Max McLellan of MKM Audio. Want to launch or grow a podcast for your business? https://www.mkmaudio.com/contact Resources & Links SILNA: https://www.silnahealth.com/?ref=3Pie#get-started Business Essentials List https://www.3piesquared.com/blog/the-essential-list-for-a-successful-business_24 ABA Business Leaders Support Group  https://forms.office.com/r/cigPR8wFFC Schedule a Consultation with Stephen https://3piesquared.com/stephen-booking-page Free ABA Business Readiness Assessment https://3piesquared.com/aba-business-readiness-assessment ABA Billing Tips Guide https://3piesquared.com/productDetails/ABA_Billing_Tips ABA Business Leaders Podcast CEUs https://3piesquared.com/productDetails/ABA_Business_Leaders_Podcast_CEUs

    System That Support ABA with Brian Lopez

  8. Jun 18

    The Power of ABA and Speech Therapy with Rose Griffin

    What happens when a Speech-Language Pathologist (SLP) becomes a Board Certified Behavior Analyst (BCBA)? In this episode of the ABA Business Leaders Podcast, April and Stephen sit down with Rose Griffin, MA, CCC-SLP, BCBA, founder of ABA Speech, to discuss the intersection of speech therapy and applied behavior analysis. The conversation explores common misconceptions between disciplines, how ABA companies can successfully integrate speech services, and why communication goals should be developed through genuine interdisciplinary collaboration. Rose also discusses the importance of developmental milestones, AAC implementation, ethical collaboration, and her upcoming book designed to help professionals better support communication development. How can BCBAs and Speech-Language Pathologists work together more effectively? Rose explains why collaboration between ABA and speech professionals can be challenging and shares practical strategies for building stronger interdisciplinary partnerships that improve outcomes for autistic learners. Should ABA companies hire Speech-Language Pathologists? Learn the benefits, challenges, and key considerations for ABA organizations looking to integrate speech therapy services into their practice, including what leaders should know before hiring an SLP. What communication skills should behavior analysts understand? Rose discusses foundational communication development, language milestones, joint attention, AAC, and why understanding speech and language development helps BCBAs create more effective interventions. This podcast was produced by Max McLellan of MKM Audio Want to start or grow a podcast for your business or brand? Reach out here: https://www.mkmaudio.com/contact Resources & Links Pre-order link of Rose Griffin’s book: https://abaspeech.lpages.co/say-it-with-me-book-page/ Business Essentials List https://www.3piesquared.com/blog/the-essential-list-for-a-successful-business_24 ABA Business Leaders Support Group  https://forms.office.com/r/cigPR8wFFC Schedule a consultation with Stephen https://3piesquared.com/stephen-booking-page Free ABA Business Readiness Assessment https://3piesquared.com/aba-business-readiness-assessment ABA Billing Tips Guide https://3piesquared.com/productDetails/ABA_Billing_Tips ABA Business Leaders Podcast CEUs https://3piesquared.com/productDetails/ABA_Business_Leaders_Podcast_CEUs

    The Power of ABA and Speech Therapy with Rose Griffin
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Join us as we dive deep into the world of Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA), exploring real-world challenges and practical strategies to improve the quality, ethics, and sustainability of ABA services. Hosted by April & Stephen, the team behind 3 Pie Squared, each episode brings actionable insights for practice owners, clinicians, and leaders in the field—whether you’re just getting started or scaling your business. Expect candid conversations, expert interviews, and honest advice about supervision, billing, hiring, training, compliance, and more. Our goal? To help you build an ABA practice that serves clients ethically and effectively—while supporting your team and growing your business with purpose. 🔗 Learn more about our courses, handbooks, and consulting services at www.3piesquared.com.

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  • Creator
    Stephen Smith
  • Years Active
    2021 - 2026
  • Episodes
    212
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © 2025 Stephen Smith
  • Show Website
    ABA Business Leaders

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