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The personal side of building big things. Where builders talk about the messy parts of creating the future. Hosted by Simona Pop.

١٥ يوليو

Proof of Letting Go: The Story of POAP | Patricio Worthalter - POAP

Timestamps: 00:07 - Introduction and guest background 00:23 - Personal motivations and early crypto experiences 01:28 - Argentina’s economic collapse and impact on the founder’s journey 02:35 - Discovery of Bitcoin and Ethereum amidst survival mode 03:34 - The first encounter with ransomware leading to active learning 04:27 - Ethereum’s early misperceptions and enthusiasm for blockchain potential 05:24 - Burnout and personal sacrifices in tech and crypto life 06:56 - Buying Ether as a lifeline out of hardship 07:40 - Building credibility and status through active participation in Ethereum ecosystem 08:38 - The initial excitement and cautious optimism about Ethereum's promise 09:37 - Ethereum’s failures versus Bitcoin’s perceived success 10:54 - The rise and disappointment of ICOs and market hype 12:16 - The transition from investment to education in crypto 13:13 - Understanding Ethereum’s social hierarchy and developer culture 14:23 - The desire to be a builder and the importance of community validation 15:15 - Riding the 2017 bubble and subsequent market correction 16:00 - The burst of the Ethereum hype and market disillusion 17:28 - Developing POAP as a tool for legitimation and community bonding 18:56 - The ethical constraints and visions for POAP's impact 20:18 - Preservation of digital assets as a core passion 21:25 - The origin story of POAP and its core function in creating verifiable memories 22:51 - How POAP evolved as a social and emotional asset for communities 24:23 - The emotional volatility of founders and highs of POAP’s community success 26:49 - The pandemic’s impact on POAP and the subsequent recovery phase 28:52 - The NFT market’s growth, hype cycles, and social relevance decline 30:28 - The market’s shift from innovation to speculation and the fading of NFT relevance 34:24 - The decision to put POAP into maintenance mode and what it signifies for the project’s future 36:22 - Reflection on failures, the importance of closure, and the symbolic meaning of the farewell jacket 50:59 - The emotional toll of closure and protecting community trust 54:55 - Broader crisis within Ethereum, industry disillusionment, and future risks for blockchain technology 58:28 - Comparing blockchain to historical innovations like the Concorde, and pondering their long-term cultural impact 60:10 - Closing thoughts on the next chapter and moving beyond the past Connect with Patricio: Twitter: https://x.com/worthalter Note: The narrative illustrates not just the lifecycle of a project but offers critical observations on the broader industry, emphasizing the importance of purposeful building, ethical constraints, and knowing when to gracefully close a chapter.
٢ يوليو

From Progress to Core: Pedro Gomes - WalletConnect

Main topics: The evolution of Wallet Connect and navigating hype cycles Protecting the core: essentials for sustainable infrastructure How market dynamics influence product focus and decision-making Balancing innovation and public goods vs business models The significance of account abstraction and blockchain-level fixes Leadership lessons: stepping back, seeking feedback, and measuring success The future of blockchain user experience with localized wallets and stablecoins Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction and the human side of crypto conversations 02:16 - Normalizing ups and downs in tech journeys 03:41 - Pedro’s early life before crypto and search for impact 04:43 - Disillusionment with science and turn to photography 06:08 - From photography to coding and e-commerce opportunities 07:48 - Transition into fintech and learning about regulation 10:33 - Discovering Bitcoin and crypto’s value over time 12:31 - The challenge of innovation within regulatory constraints 14:05 - Building Wallet Connect independently with community support 15:50 - Balancing market momentum with product focus 19:35 - The explosive growth of Wallet Connect during bull markets 24:06 - Moving from open source to a sustainable business model 26:47 - Diversification of Wallet Connect products and market noise 27:16 - Returning to focus: the importance of the core in turbulent times 30:40 - The influence of resource abundance and making better decisions 36:33 - Certification, localization, and wallets tailored to user needs 40:20 - Protecting the core as the blockchain space matures 44:24 - Interoperability at the blockchain layer — a crucial frontier 50:23 - The need for local stablecoins to unlock the next wave of wallets 54:42 - Inspiring impact and global lessons from different markets 57:46 - Ethereum’s decision-making process and the importance of product managers Resources & Links: Wallet Connect Ethereum Foundation Account Abstraction (EIP-4337) Tachyon Accelerator Solana Tempo (Blockchain project) MetaMask Connect with Pedro: LinkedIn Twitter
١٧ يونيو

Building with Resilience and Purpose: Amanda Cassatt - Serotonin

Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction and Amanda’s background in media and early tech experiences 02:15 - Transition from writing to understanding content on the internet 04:38 - Disruptive media business models and ad-driven economics 07:00 - Amanda’s entry into crypto via Ethereum meetups and community insights 09:45 - The excitement and technical complexity of blockchain at Ethereum meetups 11:10 - Amanda’s role in shaping Ethereum's marketing and her vision to elevate the ecosystem 13:35 - Leaving consensus and reflecting on lessons from media to crypto 16:10 - Building trust and changing internal communication strategies at Ethereum Foundation 17:50 - The emotional toll of marketing campaigns and real-world validation 19:45 - Confronting criticism and self-doubt during Ethereum’s price spike & campaign success 22:00 - Handling setbacks, personal resilience, and the importance of deadlines 23:40 - The mindset of trying, testing, and learning in uncertain environments 26:00 - Living with the unknown: embracing discomfort as growth 29:00 - The metaphors of muscle tearing and emotional growth; navigating discomfort 31:00 - Managing perceptions, misjudgments, and acting with internal authenticity 33:12 - The importance of flow, Wu Wei, and accepting reality as a foundation for leadership 36:00 - Maintaining patience and conviction aligned with external reality 42:00 - Building the Ethereum ecosystem through strategic marketing and community-building 44:20 - Starting Serotonin and avoiding VC reliance: a model of profitable growth 49:00 - The dangers of overhyped tech bubbles and lessons from NFT collapses 55:10 - Value creation versus hype: understanding true worth in digital assets 56:50 - The lasting impact of NFT technology and its nuanced applications 58:30 - The significance of adaptability and not overcommitting in volatile markets 59:45 - Inner confidence, humility, and moving with the natural flow of reality 62:00 - Authenticity in social media and the importance of true self-expression 66:00 - Keeping motivated amidst market pressure and innovation's pace 68:45 - Feedback, critique, and the value of community dialogue in building resilient ecosystems 70:00 - Ethereum’s potential as a bulwark against authoritarianism and systemic overreach 71:00 - Amanda’s broader philosophy: creating genuinely valuable work and focusing on the territory 73:20 - The gap between perceived value (map) and real value (territory) in finance and society 75:00 - Living in alignment with fundamental real-world values rather than abstractions 76:00 - The Borges story of the perfect map and the perils of losing touch with reality 77:00 - Final thoughts: embracing change, authenticity, and purpose-driven building
٣ يونيو

Infura's Untold Story: E.G. Galano

Key Topics: EG's background in reliability engineering and early startup experiences in gaming and hospitality The founding story of Infura and its rapid growth alongside Ethereum adoption Challenges of infrastructure scaling, managing work-life balance, and building resilient systems amid explosive growth Transition from a single company focus to a decentralized infrastructure protocol Lessons on monetization, staying relevant, and balancing technical excellence with community value The evolution from core infrastructure to supporting multi-chain ecosystems and emerging primitives like NFTs and stablecoins The importance of humility, open-mindedness, and responsibility in crypto development The future: building a protocol for real-world asset trading and embracing the potential of AI and blockchain convergence Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction: the human side of building blockchain infrastructure 00:20 - EG’s early career in gaming and reliability engineering 02:08 - The inception of Infura and initial challenges 04:22 - The shift in Ethereum growth and infrastructure reliance 07:24 - Managing work-life balance during rapid scaling 09:45 - Recognizing the significance of infrastructure dependency 12:25 - The ICO boom and monetization struggles 15:05 - Balancing community trust and product development 16:59 - Handling criticisms and system reliability concerns 19:14 - Passing the torch: transitioning Infura’s infrastructure responsibility 22:41 - Building a decentralized protocol for RPC and infrastructure commoditization 27:25 - Challenges of industry growth, competition, and resource allocation 31:00 - Reflections on supporting new chains and primitives 36:48 - Stepping away from Infura and future directions in Web3 42:38 - The importance of community, responsibility, and innovation46:34 - Personal lessons: staying humble, open-minded, and dedicated 49:13 - Closing thoughts: gratitude, pragmatic ethos, and the next chapter Resources & Links: https://x.com/egalano https://x.com/infura_io Note: Insights emphasize the importance of community responsibility, the human experience behind infrastructure projects, and the ongoing evolution towards a more decentralized ecosystem.
١٩ مايو

From NGOs to NFTs to Starting Over: María Paula Fernández - Aave Labs

Timestamps: (00:07) - Welcome and introduction to the guest’s background (01:10) - Her life before crypto in Argentina and move to Berlin (03:00) - Early work in oil, gas, and polo magazines (04:46) - Transition into NGO work with migrant children in Berlin (08:00) - Discovery of blockchain through a young refugee's curiosity (09:00) - Entry into Web3 Foundation and early industry efforts (11:00) - Building ETH Berlin and community initiatives (Department of Decentralization) (15:11) - The significance of ETH Berlin and industry events (17:30) - Starting her own company focused on art and NFTs (21:48) - The high-energy NFT boom and her cultural contributions (22:23) - Reflections on industry recognition and her personal growth (23:24) - The impact of market crashes on her project and industry disillusionment (25:57) - Winding down her project, feelings about the industry’s state (27:16) - Transition from industry expert to exploring new possibilities (vintage shop) (41:56) - Changes over the past decade and her personal evolution (42:47) - Managing social media presence and industry advocacy shifts (45:10) - Future ambitions beyond crypto, including her vintage shop (46:27) - What continues to inspire her about blockchain’s transformative potential Resources & Links: Ethereum Foundation Golem - Decentralized Computing Network ETH Berlin Department of Decentralization Aave Connect with the Guest: Twitter Note: MP shares her story with sincerity and depth, highlighting her resilience, community focus, and desire to evolve both personally and within the industry.
٢٨ أبريل

Inside the DAO Hack: Griff Green — Giveth

Griff Green is a longtime Ethereum community organizer, co-founder of Giveth, and one of the key figures in the White Hat response to The DAO hack. This episode was recorded at EthCC[9] and explores his journey from chemical engineering to crypto, the early days of Ethereum, and the values that continue to drive his work today. We talk about what happens when ideals meet reality. Griff shares how ethical conflicts in his engineering career, heartbreak over the Seattle SuperSonics, and a growing distrust of existing systems pushed him toward anarchism, Bitcoin, Ethereum, and eventually community coordination at the center of one of crypto’s defining crises. Griff gives a firsthand account of The DAO hack, the White Hat group, and the strange intensity of becoming responsible for protecting a young ecosystem under pressure. But the deeper story is about trust, responsibility, and the belief that crypto can still help build economies around values that governments and spreadsheets fail to recognize. Let’s talk about responsibility, values, and building something better. Welcome to the show.
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From Imposter Syndrome to the Ethereum Foundation: Austin Griffith — EF

Austin Griffith is Head of Developer Growth at the Ethereum Foundation. This episode was recorded at EthCC[9] and Austin shares his journey from tinkering and building to becoming a key member of the Ethereum ecosystem. He discusses his projects like Burner Wallet, the impact of AI on blockchain development, and the importance of empathy and community in tech innovation. We talk about finding acceptance in the crypto space. Feelings of imposter syndrome, real stories of impact, and reflections on finding balance between personal life and work. Exploring the meaning of cypherpunk ideals and open source. And how he's thinking about a changing landscape for developers and the impact of AI on entrepreneurship.
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The Personal Cost of Building DeFi: Stani Kulechov — Aave Labs

Stani Kulechov is the founder and CEO of Aave Labs. This episode was recorded live onstage at EthCC and explores his challenges, motivations, and lessons learned along the way. Have you ever wondered about the human side of being responsible for a DeFi protocol which gathers billions in assets? We hear about what it takes to stay focused and on track amongst all the noise and distractions. How things change over the years from being a young programmer to becoming a father and navigating the complexities of an industry which doesn't take days off. Stani describes the early days of Aave as filled with sleepless nights and intense stress. Each protocol iteration demanded extensive focus and collaboration from the entire team, as they worked tirelessly to address every detail and edge case. This phase was not just about coding, it was about ensuring that the platform could handle real-world financial transactions securely. Let’s talk about the personal side of building big things. Welcome to the show.

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Proof of Letting Go: The Story of POAP | Patricio Worthalter - POAP

From Progress to Core: Pedro Gomes - WalletConnect

Building with Resilience and Purpose: Amanda Cassatt - Serotonin

Infura's Untold Story: E.G. Galano

From NGOs to NFTs to Starting Over: María Paula Fernández - Aave Labs

Inside the DAO Hack: Griff Green — Giveth

From Imposter Syndrome to the Ethereum Foundation: Austin Griffith — EF

The Personal Cost of Building DeFi: Stani Kulechov — Aave Labs

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