huMAN UP

Pim and Milan
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She was a Google leader; he was a stay-at-home dad 6 years her junior. 3 kids under 8. 0 screens. 0 fights. We threw out the default script. Welcome to huMAN UP with Pim and Milan. After Wall Street and Google, we built our business (Grows Us), retreat center (La Tierra), and AI app (JustRight). Today, we live screen-free in Chiang Mai, homeschool, work side-by-side as best friends, and operate with (almost) zero friction. We hit record at our kitchen table to share the raw reality of breaking the rules and designing a fulfilling life.

Episodes

  1. Sep 27

    How We Co-Lead 3 Businesses & Keep Our Marriage Alive

    Is working with your life partner a recipe for success or a setup for disaster? In this episode of Human Up, host Pim and Milan share the raw truth about running multiple businesses as a married couple. After leaving a high-powered corporate role, Pim joined Milan as a co-founder—navigating fears of merged identities, division of labor, and setting healthy boundaries between the boardroom and the bedroom. Key Takeaways: How to establish a clear "North Star" vision for your family and career. Practical ways to divide business roles according to natural strengths. Why co-leading in business magnifies existing relationship dynamics (and how to fix them). Subscribe to Human Up on Spotify to stay updated with every new episode! 🎙️ In this episode, you’ll discover: 00:00 - The myth of "Never work with your spouse" 02:35 - Overcoming the fear of losing your individual identity 05:40 - Shifting from an 80-hour workweek to strategic co-leading 08:25 - Why setting yearly marriage visions on your honeymoon works 13:34 - Aligning business decisions with core values 17:48 - How to create a vision and work backward to solve life friction

  2. Sep 14

    How to Stop Fighting: The 3 Rules for a Drama-Free Relationship

    Can a married couple really live with zero drama? Pim and Milan dive deep into how they navigate disagreements, opposite personalities (a direct Thai wife and a conflict-averse German husband!), and major life transitions. Discover why blaming your partner creates unnecessary friction, how to externalize mental health struggles, and why asking one simple question can instantly defuse an argument. 👉 Don't forget to Follow / Subscribe on Spotify and leave us a rating if this episode helped you! 00:00 - The Secret to a Drama-Free Marriage 00:36 - Official Show Intro 01:05 - Stop Resenting: Address Feelings Immediately 02:18 - Mind-Reading Trap: Blame vs. Perception 03:30 - The "Dishwasher Rule": Us vs. The Problem 07:18 - Why Small Arguments Compound Over Time 08:25 - Thai vs. German: Direct Communication Styles 10:51 - How to Handle Friction Out in the Real World 13:10 - Externalizing Mental Health & Depression 16:03 - Leaving Corporate & Supporting Your Partner 17:48 - The #1 Question: "What Do You Need Right Now?" 19:10 - Introvert vs. Extrovert Communication 20:34 - Summary: 3 Rules for a No-Drama Marriage

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She was a Google leader; he was a stay-at-home dad 6 years her junior. 3 kids under 8. 0 screens. 0 fights. We threw out the default script. Welcome to huMAN UP with Pim and Milan. After Wall Street and Google, we built our business (Grows Us), retreat center (La Tierra), and AI app (JustRight). Today, we live screen-free in Chiang Mai, homeschool, work side-by-side as best friends, and operate with (almost) zero friction. We hit record at our kitchen table to share the raw reality of breaking the rules and designing a fulfilling life.

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  • Creator
    Pim and Milan
  • Years Active
    2026
  • Episodes
    2
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © Pim and Milan
  • Show Website
    huMAN UP