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It’s easy to say you believe in social justice, but engaging in honest conversations about race can be deeply uncomfortable, vulnerable, messy, and complex. Join co-hosts Courthney Russell (social entrepreneur, activist and doctor) and Emily Braucher (keynote speaker and mom) as they take on the kind of interracial dialogue needed to disrupt the current social order and create equity.

Humanize Courthney Russell Jr and Emily Braucher

    • Society & Culture
    • 4.9 • 35 Ratings

It’s easy to say you believe in social justice, but engaging in honest conversations about race can be deeply uncomfortable, vulnerable, messy, and complex. Join co-hosts Courthney Russell (social entrepreneur, activist and doctor) and Emily Braucher (keynote speaker and mom) as they take on the kind of interracial dialogue needed to disrupt the current social order and create equity.

    S4E14: Do Our Stories Do Us Justice? With Adriana Ortiz

    S4E14: Do Our Stories Do Us Justice? With Adriana Ortiz

    How do you tell your own story? Often when we think about our lives we focus on our shortcomings and struggle to see how all the parts of our story are weaved together. Adriana Ortiz believes that understanding our own story is critical to living a successful life, and she is dedicated to helping others do this. 
    Adri has been passionate about storytelling since she was a kid, finding that the literature she grew up with fell short in representing her layered life experiences. Join us for a fascinating conversation about storytelling, education & understanding the complex lives we live.
     
    Listen to hear us talk about: 
    What is storytelling and why do we do it The problems with education; who benefits from our current curriculums & ways of teaching? Why is curiosity so important and how to cultivate it What is the difference between survival mode and thriving mode THIS one question that Adri opens with when she’s interviewing people  Outside vs inside life - norms with your friends vs your family norms  How does Adri define success?  
    Connect with Adri:
    IG: @catchmesaying
    LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/in/adrimaria
     
    If you’d like to support us in continuing this work, we’d be honored if you’d consider donating here: https://www.patreon.com/thehumanizepodcast 
     
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    • 51 min
    S4E13: Being Influential In Conversation (A Deeper Dive)

    S4E13: Being Influential In Conversation (A Deeper Dive)

    Each of us have different strategies when it comes to shifting people’s perspectives. For last week’s guest, Awa Diaw, it can be choosing to end the conversation when it no longer feels productive. For Humanize co-host, Courthney Russell Jr, it’s diving even deeper into the heat. Join us as we deconstruct last week’s episode with Awa about creating influence. We’re diving deeper into how we do this in our daily conversations, and what we do with discomfort when it arises. 
    We’re talking about:
    When is a conversation no longer productive? Stopping a conversation in its tracks because someone might say something they regret.  Courthney’s strategies for creating maximum influence & shifting people’s perspectives.  People having different thresholds for withstanding disrespect  A question that Courthney has always wanted to ask a white person, but never has before THESE biological cues in social situations that something is off, and it’s time to step in DEI efforts in the business world, increasing productivity in workplaces How the U.S. economy is based on slavery & skin color  And much more!  
     Follow Awa on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adiaw/   
     
     If you’d like to support us in continuing this work, we’d be honored if you’d consider donating here: https://www.patreon.com/thehumanizepodcast  
     
    Let’s talk about it! Connect with us to continue the conversation:
     
    Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehumanizepodcast 
     
    Facebook: https://facebook.com/thehumanizepodcast   

    Email: info@thehumanizepodcast.com

    • 40 min
    S4E12: Race, Culture,, and Beyond with Erica Howard and Sage Hobbs

    S4E12: Race, Culture,, and Beyond with Erica Howard and Sage Hobbs

    We’ve got a fun role swap for you today: in this episode, we’re bringing you an interview where we had the opportunity to be the guests! We were interviewed by the amazing Sage Hobbs and Erica Howard for their podcast Race, Culture, and Beyond: A Naked Conversation Series to explore friendship across race (which they share with us!)
     
    Sage and Erica share our passion for doing antiracism work through real, honest—and even sometimes messy!—conversations. Join us as we explore together the lessons we’ve learned about ourselves and each other on this journey, our relationship “secret sauce,” and how the 4 of us feel about making a difference one conversation at a time.
     
    We’re sharing:
     
    What we’re listening to, reading, and binge watching lately (and a surprising sitcom favorite of Courthney’s!) The concert from Emily’s past that made Courthney want to work with her How we met and the birth of Humanize Courthney’s legacy that he hopes to leave The powerful tool white folks can use (but often take for granted) to create change in DEI and antiracism  
    Connect with Sage and Erica at:
    https://sagebhobbs.com/
    https://www.flyingcolorsllc.com/
    @sagebhobbs on LinkedIn and Instagram
    @racecultureandbeyondpodcast on Instagram
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericayhoward/ for Erica's company on LinkedIn
    Children’s Book: Ordinary people change the world
    Podcast: Race Culture and Beyond
     
    If you’d like to support us in continuing this work, we’d be honored if you’d consider donating here: https://www.patreon.com/thehumanizepodcast 
     
    Let’s talk about it! Connect with us to continue the conversation:
     
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    Facebook: https://facebook.com/thehumanizepodcast 
    Email: info@thehumanizepodcast.com

    • 1 hr 6 min
    Creating Influence Around the Globe with Awa Diaw

    Creating Influence Around the Globe with Awa Diaw

    We know very well what change still needs to happen around race in the US, but what about abroad? Today we’re bringing you a fascinating and unique perspective on this from Awa Diaw who is not only the Global Diversity and Inclusion Project Manager for Microsoft, but a Black woman born in Senegal, raised in the US, and now living in France.
     
    Join us for this powerful episode as we break down Awa’s experiences and observations as a Black American in Paris, how those compare to the treatment of non-American BIPOC in France, and some of her top tips for sparking change around DEI in white-led organizations.
     
    We’re exploring:
     
    Some of the most fascinating lessons and bizarre observations from her journey A comparison of the education system in the United States vs France Why she loves doing this work in a tech company—like Microsoft—in particular THIS one approach Awa’s seen work really well in influencing change in a white-led company that didn’t involve focusing on the financial impact of improving their diversity Privilege and how she has experienced this very differently in France vs the US White supremacy in other countries and how it manifests And so much more!  
    Follow Awa on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adiaw/ 
     
    If you’d like to support us in continuing this work, we’d be honored if you’d consider donating here: https://www.patreon.com/thehumanizepodcast 
     
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    Facebook: https://facebook.com/thehumanizepodcast 
    Email: info@thehumanizepodcast.com

    • 56 min
    The Code Switch [A Deeper Dive]

    The Code Switch [A Deeper Dive]

    What’s code switching? If you’ve ever found yourself changing who you are as a person in a given situation in order to gain acceptance, you’ve code switched. That need to shift how you show up in the world in order to adhere to a standard set by others is unfortunately a reality we live with and something our last guest, Imran Rehman, so poignantly brought up in episode 8.
     
    In today’s episode we’re taking a deeper dive into this topic from our interview with Imran and breaking down what it means to code switch, why we’ve all been trained to do this (regardless of color), and the ways in which it actually dehumanizes us.
     
    We’re exploring:


    THIS common saying that Imran feels is “complete and utter rubbish” Several ways in which women are often expected to code switch as well as those for people of color  What it means to “talk white” and where professionalism standards need to be reset The powerful pep talk Emily got from Courthney lately that really helped her to realize where she’d been code shifting British colonialism and the fuss over Queen Elizabeth’s death (and the reminders that this event should really be invoking) How the dynamic we have collaborating as a Black man and white woman doing this work together is so powerful  
    S4E8: The Wisdom of Community w/Imran Rehman
    S4E6: When Schools Fear ‘Noise’: Learning From the Controversial Speech Cancellation at Middlesex School w/ Nikole Hannah-Jones
     
    Get in touch with Imran:
    https://bekokoro.com/
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/imranrehman/
    https://twitter.com/ImsRehman
    https://www.instagram.com/bekokoronow/
     
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    Let’s talk about it! Connect with us to continue the conversation:
     
    Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehumanizepodcast
    Facebook: https://facebook.com/thehumanizepodcast 
    Email: info@thehumanizepodcast.com
     

    • 33 min
    Why Do We Dehumanize Others?

    Why Do We Dehumanize Others?

    Sometimes you read or hear about a situation that breaks your heart and you think, “How can those people DO that?! How do they live with themselves? I could never do that!” But could you?
     
    As humans, we’re exploring this idea that we all have the capacity to disconnect from other people so much that we treat them inhumanely. So in this episode, we’re exploring why and how humans do this and how we can shift to humanizing others instead.
     
    We’re discussing:


    The inhumane separation of families at the US border during the Trump administration and the border agents involved The perspective shift Courthney embodies in order to hold a sense of humanization for all Reforming our current immigration system in the United States - what might that look like if it existed without dehumanizing immigrants? Why the border agents or the police officers, etc. aren’t the ones to be demonizing for being involved in the inhumane treatment of others (and who to take the fight to instead) An update from each of us on the last couple of months during the break from the podcast And more!
     
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    • 26 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
35 Ratings

35 Ratings

Dannu Virgo Summer ,

So needed!

I have been listening since day one thanks to my friend Courtney, and have thoroughly enjoyed, been challenged by, and been reminded of hope through the Humanize Podcast. I recommend it often and it’s one of the pods that helps add depth to my weeks!

Mountain Sarah ,

Necessary

Courthney, Emily, and their amazing guests share so much knowledge and self-reflection every episode. The vulnerability that they bring helps encourage me to learn more, look deeper, face hard truths, and act with more courage. The conversational style brings listeners in. I love that they’ve identified power, culture, and ego as the things that get in the way of conversations about race. Thanks for your courageous, insightful work.

Travlnjue ,

Courageous Conversations

THANK YOU! The courageous conversations between Emily and Courthney Russell Jr. have ignited many questions in me. I have been learning, listening, and reading more about dismantling white supremacy and I feel that conversations like these can truly change our system of oppression. Your podcast holds lived examples of racism up to the light. You have given us the opportunity to examine and learn from your shared vulnerability. How generous of you both! I follow many thought leaders and activists and the rawness of your podcast has elevated it to the top of my listening list. Thank you!

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