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She was a Google leader; he was a stay-at-home dad 6 years her junior. 3 kids under 8. 0 screens. 0 fights. We threw out the default script. Welcome to huMAN UP with Pim and Milan. After Wall Street and Google, we built our business (Grows Us), retreat center (La Tierra), and AI app (JustRight). Today, we live screen-free in Chiang Mai, homeschool, work side-by-side as best friends, and operate with (almost) zero friction. We hit record at our kitchen table to share the raw reality of breaking the rules and designing a fulfilling life.

Episodes

  1. 1d ago

    Is Traditional Education Broken? Why We Homeschool Our Son (AI, Money & Freedom)

    Both of us grew up in traditional public school systems and universities—so why did we decide to take our oldest son out of first grade to homeschool him? In this episode, we open up about our full journey from traditional schooling to alternative home education. We share the reasons behind our decision, the real benefits we've seen over the last year and a half, and the tough challenges that came with it. In this episode, you’ll learn: The pivotal moment that made us rethink standard education. How we customize learning for advanced math while supporting slower reading and writing. Practical real-world lessons we teach: profit margins, negotiation, sales, and AI prompting. How we solve the "socialization issue" and create healthy peer interactions. The reality of balancing business, parenting, and home education. Whether you’re curious about homeschooling, frustrated with the standard school system, or looking for ways to teach your kids practical life skills, this episode is packed with real experiences and actionable insights. 🔔 Don't forget to follow the show and leave us a rating if you enjoyed this episode! Timestamps:00:00 - Our background in traditional public education01:24 - The reasons we pulled our son out of first grade02:07 - Why the standard school system creates average results02:46 - The power of customized pacing (Math vs. Reading)03:58 - Teaching life skills: Negotiation, profit, and business04:44 - Future-proofing kids: AI prompting & graphic design on Canva05:27 - Is homeschooling for everyone? 05:81 - How we solve the socialization problem

  2. Oct 26

    Is "Love at First Sight" a Lie? The Daily Choice of Lasting Relationships

    Is "love at first sight" real, or is it just initial chemistry? In this episode, we share the story of how we first met in Singapore—from initial stereotypes and ghosting to over a decade of marriage and three kids. We dive deep into why love isn't just an emotion that comes and goes, but a conscious, daily decision. Plus, we explore the 5 Love Languages, how priorities shift over time, and the exact morning question that transformed our daily communication. Key Moments in This Episode: 📍 00:26 – How we met in Singapore (and the story behind the "ghosting") 📍 06:28 – Why love is an active choice, not just a feeling 📍 09:08 – The trap of relying purely on physical and mental chemistry 📍 13:35 – Breaking down the 5 Love Languages (and why Acts of Service won out) 📍 17:40 – The single morning question that saves long-term relationships 🔔 Enjoying the show? Don't forget to tap Follow and leave us a 5-star rating to help support the podcast!

  3. Oct 19

    She Earns, He Stays Home: Redefining Provision, Money & Marriage

    What happens when a couple completely flips traditional gender and financial roles? In this honest conversation, we dive into the dynamics of our marriage—from entering the relationship with completely different financial backgrounds (3-page asset lists vs. a Vespa and a piano) to navigating the societal pressures of who earns the paycheck. Inside this episode: • The Breadwinner Dynamic: Why having the wife handle corporate income while the husband stays home with three active boys empowered our family. • True Provision: Why male provision goes far beyond a bank account to include daily presence and emotional security. • Managing Money Together: How we handle joint finances, avoid fighting over money, and teach our kids the difference between "Needs" and "Wants." • Building a Shared Future: The transition from a corporate-backed family life to leaving corporate work and building a joint business together. Whether you're navigating career decisions, managing family finances, or re-evaluating traditional roles in your relationship, this episode offers a practical, value-driven blueprint for building a lasting legacy. 📲 Subscribe & Follow so you never miss an episode, and leave us a rating if this conversation resonated with you!

  4. Oct 11

    Raising Kids in a Screen-Free Home: The Fun Jar, Tech Intentionality & Building True Connection

    Is it possible to raise kids in the modern digital age without a single TV, iPad, or smartphone in the house? In this episode, we dive into our decision to build a completely screen-free home for our family. We share the personal childhood experiences that shaped our philosophy, how we deal with the chaotic reality of taking screen-free kids out in public, and why we created the "Fun Jar" to keep life packed with real-world adventure. We also unpack: • Why being "screen-free" doesn't mean being anti-technology. • Using AI tools like Gemini to empower kids' creativity rather than passive consumption. • The real impact of screen time on childhood attention spans (and pseudo-ADHD). • Practical, screen-free games and strategies you can use today to engage your children. If you’re looking to build deeper connections with your family and rethink your relationship with screens, press play now! 🔔 Don't forget to follow the show and leave us a review if you enjoyed this conversation! In this talk, we'll cover: 00:00 - Designing a house with no TVs 03:20 - How our 90s childhood shaped our parenting 05:50 - Core values: High-quality relationships vs. co-living 06:40 - Dealing with messy behavior ("Lung Lang") in public 08:40 - The "Fun Jar" initiative for screen-free entertainment\ 13:30 - How we use AI (Gemini) responsibly with our children 15:40 - The "75% childhood memory loss" screen time statistic 18:40 - Practical screen-free activities (Concrete bike track, books, hand games) 23:40 - How to start reducing screen time today

  5. Sep 27

    How We Co-Lead 3 Businesses & Keep Our Marriage Alive

    Is working with your life partner a recipe for success or a setup for disaster? In this episode of Human Up, host Pim and Milan share the raw truth about running multiple businesses as a married couple. After leaving a high-powered corporate role, Pim joined Milan as a co-founder—navigating fears of merged identities, division of labor, and setting healthy boundaries between the boardroom and the bedroom. Key Takeaways: How to establish a clear "North Star" vision for your family and career. Practical ways to divide business roles according to natural strengths. Why co-leading in business magnifies existing relationship dynamics (and how to fix them). Subscribe to Human Up on Spotify to stay updated with every new episode! 🎙️ In this episode, you’ll discover: 00:00 - The myth of "Never work with your spouse" 02:35 - Overcoming the fear of losing your individual identity 05:40 - Shifting from an 80-hour workweek to strategic co-leading 08:25 - Why setting yearly marriage visions on your honeymoon works 13:34 - Aligning business decisions with core values 17:48 - How to create a vision and work backward to solve life friction

  6. Sep 14

    How to Stop Fighting: The 3 Rules for a Drama-Free Relationship

    Can a married couple really live with zero drama? Pim and Milan dive deep into how they navigate disagreements, opposite personalities (a direct Thai wife and a conflict-averse German husband!), and major life transitions. Discover why blaming your partner creates unnecessary friction, how to externalize mental health struggles, and why asking one simple question can instantly defuse an argument. 👉 Don't forget to Follow / Subscribe on Spotify and leave us a rating if this episode helped you! 00:00 - The Secret to a Drama-Free Marriage 00:36 - Official Show Intro 01:05 - Stop Resenting: Address Feelings Immediately 02:18 - Mind-Reading Trap: Blame vs. Perception 03:30 - The "Dishwasher Rule": Us vs. The Problem 07:18 - Why Small Arguments Compound Over Time 08:25 - Thai vs. German: Direct Communication Styles 10:51 - How to Handle Friction Out in the Real World 13:10 - Externalizing Mental Health & Depression 16:03 - Leaving Corporate & Supporting Your Partner 17:48 - The #1 Question: "What Do You Need Right Now?" 19:10 - Introvert vs. Extrovert Communication 20:34 - Summary: 3 Rules for a No-Drama Marriage

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She was a Google leader; he was a stay-at-home dad 6 years her junior. 3 kids under 8. 0 screens. 0 fights. We threw out the default script. Welcome to huMAN UP with Pim and Milan. After Wall Street and Google, we built our business (Grows Us), retreat center (La Tierra), and AI app (JustRight). Today, we live screen-free in Chiang Mai, homeschool, work side-by-side as best friends, and operate with (almost) zero friction. We hit record at our kitchen table to share the raw reality of breaking the rules and designing a fulfilling life.

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  • Creator
    Pim and Milan
  • Years Active
    2026
  • Episodes
    6
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © Pim and Milan
  • Show Website
    HumanUp