117 episodes

Hey Friend! If you are new here, be sure to start with Episode One. This is not your typical podcast and you aren’t going to want to miss a thing! Jessica, Steve (her gay ex husband) and Matt (her current husband) are sharing their stories of love, marriage, infidelity, divorce, coming out, remarriage and co-parenting to help others know they are not alone. This podcast is for those who are open-minded enough to let go of the religious and social norms we have been taught we should fit into and live a life that feels true and authentic to who they are. Steve, Jessica, and Matt are here to walk through the science of making relationsh!t successful.

Steve and Jessica were happily married for 7 years until Steve came out as being gay which inevitably ended in divorce. Now, Matt and Jessica have been happily married for over 8 years. The crazy part is, Matt, Jessica, and Steve all get along, to the extent that Matt and Steve work together, every dang day… Don’t worry you will get all the details while you listen. Matt, Jessica, and Steve have a relationship that, by most standards, would be considered atypical.

Sharing stories of love, marriage, children, divorce, the struggles of religious norms, homosexuality, and trying to be our best selves, this podcast holds nothing back and shares what most people are scared to talk about.

Listen in as they take you on this journey of learning how to love and accept themselves enough to love and accept others for who they are during this experience called “Life”.

Husband In Law Jessica Frew, Matt Frew, & Steve

    • Society & Culture
    • 4.8 • 217 Ratings

Hey Friend! If you are new here, be sure to start with Episode One. This is not your typical podcast and you aren’t going to want to miss a thing! Jessica, Steve (her gay ex husband) and Matt (her current husband) are sharing their stories of love, marriage, infidelity, divorce, coming out, remarriage and co-parenting to help others know they are not alone. This podcast is for those who are open-minded enough to let go of the religious and social norms we have been taught we should fit into and live a life that feels true and authentic to who they are. Steve, Jessica, and Matt are here to walk through the science of making relationsh!t successful.

Steve and Jessica were happily married for 7 years until Steve came out as being gay which inevitably ended in divorce. Now, Matt and Jessica have been happily married for over 8 years. The crazy part is, Matt, Jessica, and Steve all get along, to the extent that Matt and Steve work together, every dang day… Don’t worry you will get all the details while you listen. Matt, Jessica, and Steve have a relationship that, by most standards, would be considered atypical.

Sharing stories of love, marriage, children, divorce, the struggles of religious norms, homosexuality, and trying to be our best selves, this podcast holds nothing back and shares what most people are scared to talk about.

Listen in as they take you on this journey of learning how to love and accept themselves enough to love and accept others for who they are during this experience called “Life”.

    Dating Diaries Part 2 [Replay]

    Dating Diaries Part 2 [Replay]

    In this episode, Matt, Steve, and Jessica will dive back into Steve and Jessica’s journal entries from the period when they had patched things up to try and give dating another try. They were each going through a very tough time because things were not working out as they had expected. - - - > Learn more at: https://linktr.ee/theboldlogic

    • 54 min
    Dating Diaries - Part 1 [Replay]

    Dating Diaries - Part 1 [Replay]

    In this episode, Matt, Steve, and Jessica will take a deeper dive back into the time when Steve and Jessica were getting back together to give things another try, and each of them will pull up their journals and read through their six months of dating post-divorce period. - - - > Learn more at: https://linktr.ee/theboldlogic

    • 56 min
    Oklahoma - Part 2 [Replay]

    Oklahoma - Part 2 [Replay]

    In this episode, Steve and Jessica will talk about the beginning of the end of their marriage, and how quickly it fell apart. - - - > Learn more at: https://linktr.ee/theboldlogic

    • 38 min
    Oklahoma [Replay]

    Oklahoma [Replay]

    This was the time of the most turmoil and stress in Jessica and Steve's marriage. It was the breaking point. Steve had an affair with a man in hopes that it would shut down the gay side of himself, but the reality was quite the opposite. Learn more at: https://linktr.ee/theboldlogic

    • 45 min
    Break

    Break

    We are taking a break… --- Learn more at: https://linktr.ee/theboldlogic

    • 33 min
    Do It Your Way

    Do It Your Way

    In this episode, Matt, Steve, and I answer more questions from listeners. --- Learn more at: https://linktr.ee/theboldlogic

    • 37 min

Customer Reviews

4.8 out of 5
217 Ratings

217 Ratings

hconger ,

Seriously?! This is AMAZING!

Ok this show, I have been binging for a week now, 45 episodes in 7 days! Every time I listen to this it makes me want to be even more vulnerable in my marriage and really connect with him. Thank you all for this example of open communication. Thank you for sharing your story. I always say there are two great lies we often believe: 1. I am unique in my suffering, and 2. Others are unique in their success. We can all learn from each other thank you so much.

silver17 ,

Inspiring & Fascinating

I saw that viral video on IG and was curious to learn more. I grew up in a dysfunctional household which has led to toxic and jealous relationships my whole life, and I've taken a pause from dating to sort all of that out.

So, I was awestruck by the honest, caring, and nonjudgmental discourse between the 3 of you while discussing really difficult topics. Plus, your stories are so interesting - I'm on episode 55 after a week or so, haha 😂 (I listen to a ton of audiobooks and podcast normally, this is the only one at the moment!)

Thank you for putting yourselves out there! You seem like such fun and kind people 😀

Kamilep ,

It’s all heart (and laughs)

I can’t remember who recommended this podcast to me about a year and a half ago, but I am so glad they did! This is a great podcast for learning how to love anyone and let go of expectations. Jessica and Steve’s story is one of mutual love and understanding and patience with each other and with themselves. I don’t know how Jessica was so wise at such a young age, but her instincts are what I want in the world. These three people are sharing openly how they are going through life learning to listen to their own inner voice and heart and trying to give space for others to do the same. Glad to hear they are taking a break! I am all for quality over quantity and doing what you need to do to keep going. Thanks guys for your time and energy! I have been able to relate to so many emotions and feelings shared. Thank you.

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