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Hey Friend! If you are new here, be sure to start with Episode One. This is not your typical podcast and you aren’t going to want to miss a thing! Jessica, Steve (her gay ex-husband) and Matt (her current husband) are sharing their stories of love, marriage, infidelity, divorce, coming out, remarriage and co-parenting to help others know they are not alone. This podcast is for those who are open-minded enough to let go of the religious and social norms we have been taught we should fit into and live a life that feels true and authentic to who they are. Steve, Jessica, and Matt are here to walk through the science of making relationsh!t successful.

Steve and Jessica were happily married for 7 years until Steve came out as being gay which inevitably ended in divorce. Now, Matt and Jessica have been happily married for over 8 years. The crazy part is, Matt, Jessica, and Steve all get along, to the extent that Matt and Steve work together, every dang day… Don’t worry you will get all the details while you listen. Matt, Jessica, and Steve have a relationship that, by most standards, would be considered atypical.

Sharing stories of love, marriage, children, divorce, the struggles of religious norms, homosexuality, and trying to be our best selves, this podcast holds nothing back and shares what most people are scared to talk about.

Listen in as they take you on this journey of learning how to love and accept themselves enough to love and accept others for who they are during this experience called “Life”.

Husband In Law Jessica Frew, Steve, Matt Frew

    • Society & Culture
    • 4.9 • 252 Ratings

Connect with the Husband In Law crew: https://theboldlogic.com/boldetin

Hey Friend! If you are new here, be sure to start with Episode One. This is not your typical podcast and you aren’t going to want to miss a thing! Jessica, Steve (her gay ex-husband) and Matt (her current husband) are sharing their stories of love, marriage, infidelity, divorce, coming out, remarriage and co-parenting to help others know they are not alone. This podcast is for those who are open-minded enough to let go of the religious and social norms we have been taught we should fit into and live a life that feels true and authentic to who they are. Steve, Jessica, and Matt are here to walk through the science of making relationsh!t successful.

Steve and Jessica were happily married for 7 years until Steve came out as being gay which inevitably ended in divorce. Now, Matt and Jessica have been happily married for over 8 years. The crazy part is, Matt, Jessica, and Steve all get along, to the extent that Matt and Steve work together, every dang day… Don’t worry you will get all the details while you listen. Matt, Jessica, and Steve have a relationship that, by most standards, would be considered atypical.

Sharing stories of love, marriage, children, divorce, the struggles of religious norms, homosexuality, and trying to be our best selves, this podcast holds nothing back and shares what most people are scared to talk about.

Listen in as they take you on this journey of learning how to love and accept themselves enough to love and accept others for who they are during this experience called “Life”.

    You Haven't Heard This Before

    You Haven't Heard This Before

    This episode is a quick reminder as to why gratitude is so dang important AND some insight as to what gratitude can really do for you in your life. Enjoy!

    • 11 min
    Happy Boundaries!

    Happy Boundaries!

    It's the most wonderful time of the year... except when it isn't. The holidays can be joyful or straight up stressful. More often than not they are a combination of both. This holiday season set yourself up the best you can with some Holiday Boundaries.

    • 38 min
    Straight No More

    Straight No More

    Have you see the "Mormon No More" documentary on Hulu? Whether you have or haven't won't make a difference as you listen to today's episode where the three of us sit down to share our own unique perspectives on it. Don't miss the names/titles Matt felt would have been more fitting. Do you think any of us will see eye to eye on it?! 😅

    • 38 min
    Mid

    Mid

    Steve always tells me he doesn't want to live past 60. 😅 Which quite honestly pisses me off BUT he carries very strong feelings about "getting older" and until we recorded this episode I didn't realize that Matt has very strong feelings as about it as well. You can hear what Matt has to say by listening in now.

    What are your thoughts about getting older? I didn't say this on a the podcast but I feel like it is a daily gift I am given and I am here for it. 🙌🏻 I am glad you are here today as well.💜

    Keep growing my friend, in all the ways.

    P.S. Ready to kick the "Elf" to the curb? Are you tired of the added stress? Want a simple way to create holiday magic without the elf and even as your kids are growing up? Get on the Waitlist to claim a Gnomie as soon as they are available. They are only for sale for a week and there are limited quantity available. And don't worry, we know breakups are hard, so we took care of "Breaking Up" with the Freaking Elf for you. We will do your dirty work... head to theboldlogic.com/gnome to be the first to know when they go on sale.

    • 31 min
    I'd Mourn That

    I'd Mourn That

    This week we are talking about the process of mourning a relationship. It can look many different ways and can hit us at the most random times. We share how it looked for Steve and me to mourn our relationship, and how it was for Matt to mourn his relationship with Ann. Steve also shares about something he is currently mourning and then Matt compares it to a parking lot... Which leads to the question... is there a parking spot that you are leaving open for someone who maybe doesn't deserve that space any more?

    The mourning process can be hard. It is painful but it is an important part of healing. Sending so much love to you... and I mean that.

    • 33 min
    Fell On My Face

    Fell On My Face

    Was it embarrassment? Or was it a catalyst for change? Maybe it was both… Today we are talking about the moments that change us. Sometimes they come at unexpected times and in unexpected places… Have you ever had one? Share it with us on Instagram or email jessica@theboldlogic.com

    • 25 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
252 Ratings

252 Ratings

djturnitup78 ,

The best podcast!

I have been listening to this podcast ever since Steve’s sister, Suzi, was a guest, and binged right after! I can’t believe I haven’t left a review until now. Going through a divorce in my own life this podcast has been my guidebook, because I want a divorce relationship like Steve and Jess. They show how you can still have a healthy relationship with your ex! Also kudos to Matt for the support, and Matt’s story has been so interesting as well! Love you all!

dadisqueer ,

A Shining Example for the Rest of Us

This show has allowed my spouse and I to have harder talks then I think we would have if not for listening to you three. I am gay married to a woman as well for almost two decades. I came out a little over a year and a half ago to her. We (she) are taking time and not rushing into too many decisions. I feel like we should be further than we are. I know you stayed married for several years after Steve came out. Was there ever any frustration or resentment through that time of, we will call, the in between?

snoopykk16 ,

Safe place and friendship

Thank you for being my safe place and friends. While I’m personally straight, i have people close to me who are part of the LGBTQ+ community. And this podcast has surely helped me have much better understanding of how we can show much more love and and kindness to one another. Both in the LGBTQIA’s community and beyond. I have listened to every single episode and anxiously wait for each new one to come up, while I also relistening to most episodes. Thanks for being such a great support to many. I always feel so comforted by the sounds of your voices and the banter and love you have with one another. You guys emulate so much goodness and love and I truly appreciate it.

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