I Must Be BUG'N

Sheldon Gay
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  • MENTAL HEALTH

Does the world seem like it's dragging along at a different pace? Do you constantly feel like you're the only one who notices "the emperor has no clothes"? Were you constantly teased or shamed for not conforming to what's "normal"? Do you wish you had accommodations for your needs that others readily received? If that sounds all too familiar, you might be BUGN (Black Underrepresented/Unidentified Gifted and otherwise Neurodivergent). This is a podcast primarily for Black gifted and otherwise neurodivergent people to learn about and discuss our unique experiences. I'm also here to create a safe and empowering space for all neurodivergent people, especially those who may not officially be identified and those from underrepresented communities. My goal is to move neurodivergence from deficiency to difference and to create a space where labels don't have to feel like pathology. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  1. How Neurodivergence Transforms Companies

    12H AGO

    How Neurodivergence Transforms Companies

    Episode Transcript (provided by Riverside - forgive any errors): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sQCSGiPcKZn1fOb1yXof3Bxcbg9BM-RcmREiqR6E2W0/edit?usp=sharing Follow I Must Be BUGN on IG @sheldongayisbugn Summary In this episode, I speak with Michael Asaku-Yeboah, a vocational therapist and inclusion consultant. This is a DEEP conversation where we discuss things like the importance of understanding one's neurodivergence, what it's like for neurodivergent people in corporate spaces and how he's doing work to help Fortune 100 companies and others create spaces where all minds can thrive. Michael has seen the qualitative and quantitative impacts of his work, repeatedly demonstrating that this work isn't just about feeling good, it can save and earn companies significant amounts of money and other resources. Michael is making an impact not only in the US but also in his home country of Ghana where many of the schools are also suffering from colonized curriculum. This is a conversation about self-discovery and acceptance as well as how companies can avoid unwittingly creating barriers to the very culture and goals they say they desire. Key Points We should be questioning our perceptions of intelligence, i.e. favoring memorization over demonstrated understanding.Diagnosis and self-identification of neurodivergence can be life changingNeurodivergent individuals often face unique challenges in corporate settings.Inclusive education can help change narratives around learning. Neurodivergent individuals can be highly intelligent but may struggle with traditional learning methods.Even parents can be unaware that their children may be neurodivergent.There's substantial data that demonstrates that supporting neurodivergent people has material financial benefits for companiesCoaching can help neurodivergent individuals navigate workplace challenges effectively.Neurodivergent individuals often contribute significantly to innovation and creativity.Intersectionality plays a crucial role in understanding neurodivergent experiences.Complex trauma can significantly impact neurodivergent individuals' behaviors. Helpful Links:Connect with Michael Asaku-Yeboah: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maykoi/Eisenhower Matrix: https://asana.com/resources/eisenhower-matrixNeuroNest (Under Construction as of Feb 2026): https://neurovocafrica.com/neuro/ Keywords neurodiversity, inclusion, disability management, coaching, education, corporate culture, Ghana, mental health, intersectionality, workplace inclusion, perfectionism, empathy Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    1h 35m
  2. Neuroplasticity, AI and Masculinity's Future

    JAN 29

    Neuroplasticity, AI and Masculinity's Future

    Episode Transcript (provided by Riverside - forgive any errors): https://docs.google.com/document/d/17YKf0QfVIfN03XpHUCXwUSNWbvFqQUSKN2SLM6Pkm9I/edit?usp=sharing Follow I Must Be BUGN on IG @sheldongayisbugn Summary: In my latest conversation, I get the honor of chatting with David Hester, PhD again. Per usual, we talked about just about EVERYTHING (haha). David shares his thoughts on neuroplasticity (old dogs CAN learn new tricks), the promise and dangers of artificial intelligence and the need for ethical tech, perceptions of neurodivergence that aren't based in deficits and a future where diverse perspectives are valued and integrated into decision-making processes. We also explore the intersection of technology, masculinity, and emotional intelligence. He shares the ways in which he's looking to impact a billion people through his work at LifeGuides, MusingU and more. We simply let our minds and hearts delve into every topic as if there are no boundaries...because there really aren't when you've got a mind like Dave's. The dialogue emphasizes the importance of community, healthy relationships, and the being free of binary thinking, while also addressing the future of humanity in a technologically advanced world. Key Points: Neuroplasticity allows for continuous learning and adaptation.We must demand equitable access to technology for all communities.Neurodivergent people can possess unique perspectives that can drive innovation.Understanding our own narratives can shift perceptions of self.Representation of Black men in various spaces is crucial.Artificial intelligence is being used to do things like implant ideas in dreamsCreating inclusive and engaging work environments requires ongoing training.Masculinity as a binary isn't a global belief-system Helpful Links: Connect with David Hester, PhD: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidhesterjr/The Union - Coworking and Collaborating Space (Seattle): https://www.theunion.io/Dr. Tracy Marks YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/drtraceymarks Keywords: neuroplasticity, neurodivergence, giftedness, organizational growth, representation, equity, technology access, personal growth, societal norms, community, technology, social impact, AI, neuroscience, ethical AI, corporate culture, technology, masculinity, emotional intelligence, gender fluidity, community, relationships Intro and Outro music provided by byrdversion1 - "Understand" from the album Nevermore Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    1h 33m

  3. 12/24/2025

    It Must Be Time to Rest and Revisit

    Episode Transcript (provided by Riverside - forgive any errors): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Whi98bPoD7JApOXYX5IkbaMbD9XzSRSBd7UdwhKwKfs/edit?usp=sharing Follow I Must Be BUGN on IG @sheldongayisbugn Summary: In this episode, I reflect on some of my favorite episodes that are good to review during this time of rest and restoration. Listen to hear how you can help 2026 be a transformative year for me. Suggested copy for introducing me to your network: Hi [Insert Name] — I wanted to put Sheldon Gay on your radar. He’s doing thoughtful and timely work around giftedness, neurodivergence, leadership, and burnout, especially for Black and other traditionally marginalized groups. I immediately thought of your team when I learned he’s available for speaking. Given the challenges many teams are facing right now with regard to inclusion efforts as well as recruiting and retaining top talent, I thought his perspective could be especially helpful. If it’s useful, I’d encourage you to reach out and connect with him directly. Here's his website: sheldongayisbugn.com. Helpful Links: Season 1 Episode 2 "Why Are We BUG'N?": https://open.spotify.com/episode/4suruvJEx1sdqw1kdOEKUz?si=zL8mWVCpScWUjPcLW5n8EgSeason 3 Episode 2 "Why Anger is Necessary for Joy": https://open.spotify.com/episode/1OCMXHZWRC2iOsau77e3Jv?si=i01SJ3yQTmWUP_goL_kZXQSeason 3 Episode 1 "Is it a Neurodivergent Excuse or Reason?": https://open.spotify.com/episode/0lOLLlDt2JzivxUie0o3gn?si=t0BXb7XpQri7_3t3TjnrKQSeason 2 Episode 11 "It Must Be My MEgo": https://open.spotify.com/episode/1CoIkccfPzeLfxaLkZ6L1S?si=mPDBBV5jTW6d26uaAleXhgSeason 3 Episode 3 "Mom...I'm Autistic": https://open.spotify.com/episode/7C8HTURxc6bL0eiVOY2DTJ?si=FFc7FGPCRRiLbarRpfbaVgSeason 2 Episode 7 "It Must Be Good Grief": https://open.spotify.com/episode/6HAw4IM2SWSPlEgnQTzUYJ?si=61d3b4ef53084e4eCosmic Cheer Squad Guest Interview "Compassionate Mirrors": https://open.spotify.com/episode/5WV81qYuymV9wVTyZ5UT8g?si=QgPSG3ZkTv-D0BHs29jD8QHire me to speak or as your personal coach! sheldongayisbugn.comFree GroupMe Community for Talented and Gifted adults: https://groupme.com/join_group/108040800/igLaxqNGND Connect - Online community for neurodivergent people: ndconnect.appUmbrella ND - Non-profit focused on neurodivergent advocacy: https://umbrellaopensdoors.org/Submit your Questions or Misunderstood Insights: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSelanG1R71TcGjzHIyVW1f8fkE7MaWx-D2j7OtHsIGrdQhi_Q/viewform?usp=sf_link Keywords: podcast, reflection, support, neurodivergent, community, personal growth, Black men, mental health, grief, joy Intro and Outro music provided by byrdversion1 - "Understand" from the album Nevermore Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    26 min
  4. A Heart Attack Forced Him to Reboot His ADHD

    12/11/2025

    A Heart Attack Forced Him to Reboot His ADHD

    Episode Transcript (provided by Riverside - forgive any errors): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rNjh4fS_StpHON-a-EEk_n_dH4hGK46s0EPe5o5U2Qc/edit?usp=sharing Follow I Must Be BUGN on IG @sheldongayisbugn Summary: In this episode, I speak with Dr. Jeff, an expert helping people with ADHD transform their lives, especially in the workplace. We discussed Dr. Jeff's personal journey with ADHD, the challenges he faced, and how he developed a system to help others harness their ADHD. He tells us about being saved from wandering into the street, teaching himself to code, how Adderall was helpful until he had a heart attack and couldn't take it anymore and much more. Dr. Jeff helps us see how humor can bring peace with our journey. Key Points: ADHD doesn't have to be viewed as a deficitHow accountability can help change habits and achieve goals.Self-compassion is key; failure is not a reflection of one's worth.Mindset shifts can transform one's approach to challenges.Community support enhances personal growth and accountability. Understanding ADHD can lead to better career choices.Living with uncertainty can heighten adrenaline and dopamine levels.Being able to laugh at life can help us find a way throughCreating supportive environments can enhance productivity. Helpful Links: Email Dr. Jeff: Drjeff@Drgetinfocus.comSchedule a call with Dr. Jeff: https://drgetinfocus.com/schedule-page (for clarity Kick-start session)Video about study demonstrating racial disparity in hiring: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DG1grIqvz_N/Hire me to speak or as your personal coach! sheldongayisbugn.comFree GroupMe Community for Talented and Gifted adults: https://groupme.com/join_group/108040800/igLaxqNGND Connect - Online community for neurodivergent people: ndconnect.appUmbrella ND - Non-profit focused on neurodivergent advocacy: https://umbrellaopensdoors.org/Submit your Questions or Misunderstood Insights: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSelanG1R71TcGjzHIyVW1f8fkE7MaWx-D2j7OtHsIGrdQhi_Q/viewform?usp=sf_link Keywords: ADHD, neurodivergence, superpower, productivity, accountability, mindset, personal growth, mental health, self-awareness, Schlemiel Intro and Outro music provided by byrdversion1 - "Understand" from the album Nevermore Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    1h 12m
  5. I Wasn't Bipolar...I Was Autistic

    11/26/2025

    I Wasn't Bipolar...I Was Autistic

    Episode Transcript (provided by Acast - forgive any errors): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ujE9yulu1kvNze2q99xDQO4qvt_pUdr0ISkiX_xhPtI/edit?usp=sharing Follow I Must Be BUGN on IG @sheldongayisbugn Summary: In this episode, we speak with Ayanna Sanaa Davis, an award-winning autism advocate, discussing her unique journey as a Black autistic woman. She shares about her misdiagnosis where she was erroneously institutionalized as well as how art has given her a voice, even when she hasn't wanted to verbalize. She even shares about the time she experienced physical violence in the classroom because someone lacked compassion for her neurodivergence. We explore the importance of representation, the journey to diagnosis, the impact of race on autism, and the cultural aspects of neurodivergence. The conversation emphasizes the need for empathy and understanding in a world that often overlooks the unique experiences of neurodivergent individuals. Key Points: Neurodivergent advocacy is evolving beyond just accommodations.Art is a beautiful outlet for expressing emotions and thoughts.Representation is crucial for Black autistic individuals, especially young ones.Being undiagnosed can lead to a lifelong search for identity.Cultural aspects significantly influence the experience of autism.Autistic burnout is distinct and can have lasting effects.Community support is essential for neurodivergent individuals.Empathy is needed to understand the challenges faced by neurodivergent people.Race plays a critical role in the experiences of autistic individuals.Education on neurodivergence should include cultural competence. Helpful Links: Follow Ayanna across ALL social platforms at @phenomenallyautisticConnect with Ayanna and all her projects: https://linktr.ee/PhenomenallyautisticHire me to speak or as your personal coach! sheldongayisbugn.comFree GroupMe Community for Talented and Gifted adults: https://groupme.com/join_group/108040800/igLaxqNGND Connect - Online community for neurodivergent people: ndconnect.appUmbrella ND - Non-profit focused on neurodivergent advocacy: https://umbrellaopensdoors.org/Submit your Questions or Misunderstood Insights: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSelanG1R71TcGjzHIyVW1f8fkE7MaWx-D2j7OtHsIGrdQhi_Q/viewform?usp=sf_link Keywords: neurodivergence, autism, representation, black community, art, healing, social justice, advocacy, mental health, cultural aspects, bipolar Intro and Outro music provided by byrdversion1 - "Understand" from the album Nevermore Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    53 min
  6. Mom, I'm Autistic - A conversation with Janelle Johnson, LMFT-S

    11/12/2025

    Mom, I'm Autistic - A conversation with Janelle Johnson, LMFT-S

    Episode Transcript (provided by Riverside - forgive any errors): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nKIvlOlsje1bGu6wDyEdTNxG4Dfk2LKSMN3M_cPbkK8/edit?usp=sharing Follow I Must Be BUGN on IG @sheldongayisbugn Summary: In this episode, I had the pleasure of speaking with Janelle Johnson, LMFT-S, a licensed marriage and family therapist, as well as a neurodiversity and disability advocate. We had a good ole time discussing the future of intersectional neurodivergent advocacy, especially as it relates to race and gender. Janelle shared a POWERFUL personal story about her own self-diagnosis. Janelle shared about her critically important research and her vision for a future where neurodivergent leaders are prominent in various sectors, advocating for equity and representation. We also discussed the importance of self-reflections, especially as it relates to our own internalized ableism. We also discuss some of the challenges neurodivergent folks face in therapy, as well as some helpful tips for identifying the right therapist for you. Janelle also shared some truly striking stats from her research as it relates to what the true "face of autism" looks like now and in the future. She is an amazing thought-leader in this space and I'm super excited for you to listen to our discussion. Key Points: Neurodivergent advocacy is evolving beyond just accommodations.You can't speak about neurodivergence or disability without talking about race and gender.Self-diagnosis is valid and can be a powerful realization.Beatboxing can be a form of stimming for some individuals.Therapists need to understand the cultural context of their clients.Emerging data shows disparities in autism diagnoses among racial groups.Neurodiversity should be rethought beyond traditional labels.The future should include more neurodivergent leaders in various fields.Community is enough and has always been enough.Challenging internalized ableism is crucial for personal growth.Embracing one's identity can lead to joy and fulfillment.Nuance and intersectionality are vital in understanding diverse experiences. Helpful Links: Janelle's Mental Health Practice - Bridges Family Life Center: http://www.bridgesflc.com/Take the neurodivergent research survey, and share with your networks! https://ncsu.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_3yOrtajDF32kG8eMalcolm X quote on Black women: https://speakola.com/political/malcolm-x-speech-to-black-women-1962Neurodivergent Therapist Database: https://ndtherapists.com/Hire me to speak or as your personal coach! sheldongayisbugn.comFree GroupMe Community for Talented and Gifted adults: https://groupme.com/join_group/108040800/igLaxqNGND Connect - Online community for neurodivergent people: ndconnect.appUmbrella ND - Non-profit focused on neurodivergent advocacy: https://umbrellaopensdoors.org/Submit your Questions or Misunderstood Insights: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSelanG1R71TcGjzHIyVW1f8fkE7MaWx-D2j7OtHsIGrdQhi_Q/viewform?usp=sf_link Intro and Outro music provided by byrdversion1 - "Understand" from the album Nevermore Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    1h 29m

  7. 10/15/2025

    Why Anger is Necessary for Joy

    Episode Transcript (provided by Riverside - forgive any errors): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DvxQW82DslhfTiUMwO0q8tBhsxxuLMdTYndyXqY1pmQ/edit?usp=sharing Follow I Must Be BUGN on IG @sheldongayisbugn Summary In this episode, I delve into the complexities of anger, highlighting a number of ways that its presence is a pathway to healthier relationships. I discuss the importance of investigating anger rather than suppressing it and, furthermore, how societal norms, especially those dictated by systems of oppression, create extra burdens for melanated and marginalized people. I also share how anger helped me discover I was gifted and how it can help you understand your mind as well. I then provide actionable steps for harnessing your anger constructively to transform your life and community. Key Points: Acknowledging anger is essential for manifesting joy.Understanding emotions is crucial for personal growth.Safety in relationships starts with Self.Healthy relationships require the ability to express anger constructively.Investigating anger can reveal deeper traumas and needs.We must create safe spaces for all emotions, including anger. Helpful Links: Josh Johnson uses humor to discuss angerHire me to speak or buy some merch!: sheldongayisbugn.comFree GroupMe Community for Talented and Gifted adults: https://groupme.com/join_group/108040800/igLaxqNGND Connect - Online community for neurodivergent people: ndconnect.appUmbrella ND - Non-profit focused on neurodivergent advocacy: https://umbrellaopensdoors.org/Submit your Questions or Misunderstood Insights: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSelanG1R71TcGjzHIyVW1f8fkE7MaWx-D2j7OtHsIGrdQhi_Q/viewform?usp=sf_link Intro and Outro music provided by byrdversion1 - "Understand" from the album Nevermore Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    56 min

  8. 10/01/2025

    Is it a Neurodivergent Excuse or a Reason?

    Episode Transcript (provided by Riverside - forgive any errors): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JKjcPA2Usu4lG5bYSKkLeUPB8Su5KGsRFNe87mXeFgE/edit?usp=sharing Follow I Must Be BUGN on IG @sheldongayisbugn Summary In this episode, I explore and explain something that can be a bit confusing, the difference between excuses and reasons. Many of us have seen this come up in our neurodivergent communities. It seems we run into challenges when sharing our intent and thought process. It's frustrating because we want to improve and maintain our relationships. Through personal anecdotes and practical advice, I help you understand how radical accountability and prioritizing connection can foster healthier relationships. Key Points: * Radical accountability involves taking ownership of one's actions and their impact. * Healthy relationships require prioritizing connection over being right. * Modeling healthy behavior can help others learn how to communicate effectively. * Being an elite apologizer means acknowledging impact first, then intent. * Personal growth involves recognizing our own triggers and patterns. Helpful Links: * Hire me to speak or buy some merch!: sheldongayisbugn.com * Free GroupMe Community for Talented and Gifted adults: https://groupme.com/join_group/108040800/igLaxqNG * ND Connect - Online community for neurodivergent people: ndconnect.app * Umbrella ND - Non-profit focused on neurodivergent advocacy: https://umbrellaopensdoors.org/ * Submit your Questions or Misunderstood Insights: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSelanG1R71TcGjzHIyVW1f8fkE7MaWx-D2j7OtHsIGrdQhi_Q/viewform?usp=sf_link Intro and Outro music provided by byrdversion1 - "Understand" from the album Nevermore Icons from flaticon.com * Like (https://www.flaticon.com/free-icons/like) * Bell (https://www.flaticon.com/free-icons/bell) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Does the world seem like it's dragging along at a different pace? Do you constantly feel like you're the only one who notices "the emperor has no clothes"? Were you constantly teased or shamed for not conforming to what's "normal"? Do you wish you had accommodations for your needs that others readily received? If that sounds all too familiar, you might be BUGN (Black Underrepresented/Unidentified Gifted and otherwise Neurodivergent). This is a podcast primarily for Black gifted and otherwise neurodivergent people to learn about and discuss our unique experiences. I'm also here to create a safe and empowering space for all neurodivergent people, especially those who may not officially be identified and those from underrepresented communities. My goal is to move neurodivergence from deficiency to difference and to create a space where labels don't have to feel like pathology. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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  • Creator
    Sheldon Gay
  • Years Active
    2023 - 2026
  • Episodes
    36
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Sheldon Gay
  • Show Website
    I Must Be BUG'N