Changing the Conversation

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Welcome to Changing the Conversation! We discuss critical and timely topics focused on equity, homelessness, substance use, mental health, and trauma. Our hosts interview health and human service experts, researchers, and advocates. Conversations explore how we can adapt our systems to the rapidly changing landscape of social services.

  1. Building Peer Support Services: Cherene Allen-Caraco

    1d ago

    Building Peer Support Services: Cherene Allen-Caraco

    "Relationships are complicated. Everybody is surviving. Everybody's trying to figure it out. My thought is if we can't figure it out in our space, how are we going to expect the community to figure it out? We have to dive into some really difficult things and do it through the lens of who we are and where we came from."   Innovator Cherene Allen-Caraco considers her experiences and the challenges building peer support services in North Carolina in her live conversation with host Ashley Stewart.   Visit c4innovates.com, subscribe to receive newsletter and training updates, and follow us on LinkedIn and YouTube for more resources to grow your impact.   Learn More: Cherene Caraco Joins C4 Innovations Promise Resource Network (PRN) Assertive Community Treatment (ACT)  PRN Peer Respite: Retreat @ The Plaza Emerald School of Excellence, a recovery high school Association of Recovery Schools CROWN Act Laura Van Tosh LinkedIn Learning from Recovery Elders: Laura Van Tosh Abolition vs Reform for Public Health Abstinence-based Treatment Twelve-Step Facilitation Harm Reduction Jessi Davis

    59 min
  2. Learning from Recovery Elders: Maryanne Frangules

    May 27

    Learning from Recovery Elders: Maryanne Frangules

    "Most importantly, elevate lived experience. Policy is most effective when it's shaped by the people directly impacted. Remember Faces who are visible, Voices, who are vocal prove recovery is valuable." Recovery advocate Maryanne Frangules and host Livia Davis delve deep into the history of the Recovery Movement in Massachusetts, from her recovery journey in the 1970's to the founding of the Massachusetts Organization for Addiction Recovery (MOAR) in 1991 to her newest role as Recovery Historian highlighting the giants on whose shoulders we stand. This episode is part of a series where we share the wisdom amassed by recovery leaders over the past 5 decades and reflect on the journeys that have laid groundwork for today's recovery movement. Visit c4innovates.com, subscribe to receive newsletter and training updates, and follow us on LinkedIn and YouTube for more resources to grow your impact. Show Notes: "A 'mythical' voice for recovery community reflects on career ahead of retirement" | Boston Globe 2024 Massachusetts Organization for Addiction Recovery (MOAR) MOAR | Our History and Milestones MOAR | Who We Are Massachusetts Association of Alcoholism and Drug Addiction Counselors (MAADAC)  Leroy L. Kelly (1941-2016) Obituary William L. White Slaying the Dragon: The History of Addiction Treatment and Recovery in America | William L. White 2014 Massachusetts Bureau of Substance Addiction Services (BSAS) Bay State Community Services Faces and Voices of Recovery (FAVOR) National Recovery Month Mental Health Peer Support Workforce Designline | Jessica Wolf, PhD   Access a transcript of Learning from Recovery Elders: Maryanne Frangules   Thank you for listening to this important conversation honoring the history and voices of the recovery movement. Check out more episodes in the "Learning from Recovery Elders" series!

    15 min
  3. Care Farming: Andrea Barnhart & Kate Mudge

    May 11

    Care Farming: Andrea Barnhart & Kate Mudge

    "The core idea is the growing itself of food and working with the animals. It's there on a farm, it's building connection, it's building skills. It's empowering people, providing oftentimes a real dignity of work in ways that other more traditional services sometimes don't."   Host Livia Davis chats with Andrea Barnhart and Kate Mudge, the co-directors of the Care Farming Network, about the potential for farms as community anchors nurtured by social purpose.   Visit c4innovates.com, subscribe to receive newsletter and training updates, and follow us on LinkedIn and YouTube for more resources to grow your impact.   Learn More: Møldrup Farm Care Farming Network (CFN) CFN Directory CFN Resource Library CFN Events Red Wiggler Care Farm GAAMHA, Shawn P. Hayden University of Rochester Medicine: What is an IDD? Person-Centered Strategies at C4 Innovations   Access a transcript of Care Farming: Andrea Barnhart & Kate Mudge

    23 min
  4. Learning from Recovery Elders: Laura Van Tosh

    Apr 27

    Learning from Recovery Elders: Laura Van Tosh

    "There are people that have created those pathways for themselves. We have national leadership now. That national leadership may not have occurred if it were not for the local programs that were funded…10 years earlier." Long-time mental health peer activist Laura Van Tosh and host Livia Davis discuss the history of peer-run programs, the development of the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) and her hopes for the future of the recovery movement. This episode is part of a series where we share the wisdom amassed by recovery leaders over the past 5 decades and reflect on the journeys that have laid groundwork for today's recovery movement. Visit c4innovates.com, subscribe to receive newsletter and training updates, and follow us on LinkedIn and YouTube for more resources to grow your impact. Learn More: Laura Van Tosh: LinkedIn Laura Van Tosh: The Life of a Psychiatric Survivor Activist | Mad In America Consumer/Survivor-Operated Self-Help Programs: A Technical Report, A Retrospective Review of the Mental Health Consumer/Survivor Movement and 13 Federally Funded Consumer/Survivor-Operated Service Programs in the 1980s Consumer Operated Service Program (COSP): A Multisite Research Initiative | Boston University's Center for Psychiatric Rehabilitation National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI) State Mental Health Planning Council Protection and Advocacy for Individuals with Mental Illness (PAIMI) Protection and Advocacy (P&A) Programs Overview | National Disability Rights Network (NDRN) Mental Health: A Report of the Surgeon General (1999) Howard H. Goldman Obituary for Larry Fricks (June 13, 1950 — August 3, 2025) Maryland Office of Consumer Affairs National Association of State Mental Health Program Directors (NASMHPD) Meadows Mental Health Policy Institute BRSS TACS (Bringing Recovery Supports to Scale Technical Assistance Center Strategy) Video: October 2024 Mental Health Policy Roundtable "From the ADA to the Ballot Box" Video: February 2025 Mental Health Policy Roundtable "No Research About Us Without Us" Video: April 2024 Mental Health Policy Roundtable "Pathways to Wellness: America's Youth and Behavioral Healthcare" Video: July 2024 Mental Health Policy Roundtable "Navigating Deinstitutionalization: Past, Present, and Future" Access a transcript of Learning from Recovery Elders: Laura Van Tosh   Thank you for listening to this important conversation honoring the history and voices of the recovery movement. Check out more episodes in the "Learning from Recovery Elders" series!

    27 min
  5. Motivational Interviewing 29: Kristin Dempsey

    Apr 13

    Motivational Interviewing 29: Kristin Dempsey

    "I love those chapters that are about genuineness, hope and empowerment. Those were just so beautiful to approach in terms of how to have such goodwill towards those we serve." Host Ali Hall and co-author Kristin Dempsey discuss their book Advancing Motivational Interviewing: An Experiential Skills Guide for Mental Health Providers. Kristin Dempsey; website, MI Trainings Ali Hall; website, MINT profile Advancing Motivational Interviewing: An Experiential Skills Guide for Mental Health Providers by Kristin Dempsey and Ali Hall William "Bill" Miller More podcast episodes on Motivational Interviewing Motivational Interviewing: training opportunities and resources from C4 Innovations Motivational Interviewing: resources from the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) PESI Trainings from Ali & Kristin Access a transcript of Motivational Interviewing 29: Kristin Dempsey Listen to other episodes in the "Motivational Interviewing" series.

    17 min
  6. Learning from Recovery Elders: LaVerne Miller

    Mar 30

    Learning from Recovery Elders: LaVerne Miller

    "People like Howie the Harp and Sally Zinman... laid that fertile soil for those of us that have come after them, for us to really grow". Attorney and rights advocate LaVerne Miller joins host Livia Davis to discuss her experiences in the recovery movement, the lessons she has learned, and her hopes for the future of the movement. This episode is part of a series where we share the wisdom amassed by recovery leaders over the past 5 decades and reflect on the journeys that have laid groundwork for today's recovery movement. Visit c4innovates.com, subscribe to receive newsletter and training updates, and follow us on LinkedIn and YouTube for more resources to grow your impact. Learn More: Howie the Harp   What Are the 4Cs of Mentorship: A Comprehensive Guide   Cultural Humility (complete)  Project Liberty Peer Support Initiative  What is Servant Leadership?  How to Build Partnerships with Community Organizations - Visible Network Labs  Creating and Maintaining Coalitions and Partnerships | Community Tool Box  Helen "Skip" Skipper   Brandee Izquierdo   Sally Zinman Papers Highlighting Women Leaders of Color: LaVerne Miller Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) Changing the Conversation: Next Generation Recovery Leaders Access a transcript of Learning from Recovery Elders: LaVerne Miller   Thank you for listening to this important conversation honoring the history and voices of the recovery movement. Check out more episodes in the "Learning from Recovery Elders" series!

    22 min
  7. Motivational Interviewing 28: Kris Kelly

    Mar 2

    Motivational Interviewing 28: Kris Kelly

    How are Motivational Interviewing (MI) and Peer Support so well aligned? Peer advocate Kris Kelly and host Ali Hall consider the foundational components of autonomy, empathy, and more in this episode! Learn More:  Kris Kelly; MINT Profile Great Lakes ATTC Upcoming Trainings  Products and Resources Catalog Laura Saunders: MINT profile The Center for Health Enhancement Systems Studies (CHESS) at the University of Wisconsin-Madison
 Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) Ali Hall; website, MINT profile More podcast episodes on Motivational Interviewing Motivational Interviewing: training opportunities and resources from C4 Innovations Motivational Interviewing: resources from the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) Access a transcript of Motivational Interviewing 28: Kris Kelly Visit c4innovates.com, subscribe to receive newsletter and training updates, and follow us on LinkedIn and YouTube  for more resources to grow your impact.

    20 min

  8. Feb 16

    Learning from Recovery Elders: Shannon CrossBear

    What does healing look like from different perspectives, ways of knowing, and approaches? Indigenous elder Shannon CrossBear discusses her wellness journey and the lessons she has learned along the way with host Livia Davis. This episode is part of a series where we share the wisdom amassed by recovery leaders over the past 5 decades and reflect on the journeys that have laid groundwork for today's recovery movement. Visit c4innovates.com, subscribe to receive newsletter and training updates, and follow us on LinkedIn and YouTube for more resources to grow your impact. Learn More Shannon CrossBear Strong Heart Resource Development National Indian Child Welfare Association National Federation of Families National Child Traumatic Stress Network Surgeon Generals Conference on Children's Mental Health   Access a transcript of Learning from Recovery Elders: Shannon CrossBear   Thank you for listening to this important conversation honoring the history and voices of the recovery movement. Check out more episodes in the "Learning from Recovery Elders" series!

    18 min
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Welcome to Changing the Conversation! We discuss critical and timely topics focused on equity, homelessness, substance use, mental health, and trauma. Our hosts interview health and human service experts, researchers, and advocates. Conversations explore how we can adapt our systems to the rapidly changing landscape of social services.

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