Service Design Show

Service Design Show

Go beyond the basics of service design and learn what it truly takes to deliver services that make a positive impact on people, business and planet.

  1. How AI is Changing the Rules of Service Design / Pablo / Ep. #255

    2d ago

    How AI is Changing the Rules of Service Design / Pablo / Ep. #255

    If building digital products becomes instant and free, what happens to the value of a service designer? Discover why traditional discovery is under attack and how to survive the impending "Design Winter." The rapid trajectory of AI development has completely shifted the rules of corporate problem-solving. In this episode, host Marc van Tijn sits down with academic coordinator Pablo Fernández Vallejo to unpack the deep structural changes hitting the design industry. They move past basic chatbot hype to look at the realities of autonomous AI agents, shifting organizational power dynamics, and why designers must quickly transition from "authors" to "editors" to stay relevant. Here is what we cover: Why corporate obsession with cheap, instant builds risks turning upfront design discovery into an operational roadblock. Why automating the messy, time-consuming parts of qualitative work might actually cause our core design muscles to atrophy. How autonomous AI agents are forcing us to redesign websites and platforms for machine consumption instead of human eyes. How to harden your service ecosystems before competitors or angry clients launch automated, voice-cloned agent swarms to overwhelm support desks. Why the future belongs to designers who can let go of the static deliverable and focus on continuous, systemic agility. On a scale of 1-10, how fluent do you feel with AI as a design material right now? Let me know, I really do read and reply to all responses. Enjoy and keep making a positive impact! ~ Marc --- [ 1. GUIDE ] --- 00:00 Welcome to Episode 255 03:45 AI Velocity 08:45 Future Job Market 13:30 Productive Friction 19:15 Impact on Designers 23:15 What happens to our value 28:30 How we combat corporate Proto Bros 34:00 Where we anchor the "real" domain of design 36:45 Impact on Services 37:30 Autonomous Agents 42:15 Designing AX 47:45 Ecosystem Defense 50:15 Broken Journey Maps 52:00 Impact on Organizations 56:30 Authors vs Editors --- [ 2. LINKS ] --- LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/pablofernandezvallejoWebsite - https://www.fernandezvallejo.com/Watch Part 1 of Pablo's Previous Interview on AI on Service Design - https://youtu.be/B142M6lhac8?si=uUKREkC1wztjUSYj --- [ 3. CIRCLE ] --- Join our private community for in-house service design professionals. ⁠https://servicedesignshow.com/circle --- [4. FIND THE SHOW ON] --- Youtube ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/255-youtubeSpotify ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/255-spotifyApple ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/255-appleSnipd ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/255-snipd

    1h 11m
  2. The Art of the "Sneaky" Service Designer / Inside Service Design / Max & Jennifer

    May 28

    The Art of the "Sneaky" Service Designer / Inside Service Design / Max & Jennifer

    What do you do when you want to drive human-centered change inside your organization, but you don't have the formal authority, you don't hold the budget, and you don't even have the official job title? To dive deeper into this strategy, I sat down with Max Seabrooke and Jennifer Kitchen. According to them, you stop asking for corporate permission and start getting a little bit sneaky. We step away from perfectly polished frameworks to look at the raw, political reality of practicing "undercover influence" from the inside out. In this episode, you will learn: How to quietly embed user-centric design into your organization without triggering corporate resistance or using confusing industry jargon.Why slowly building a toolkit of data on top of your company's existing expertise wins over skeptical executives.How to figure out exactly how other siloed teams measure their own success so you can align your project to their metrics.Why avoiding friction inside your team can quietly destroy project alignment and sabotage quality.So, if you want to hear raw, practical insights from professionals who are in the trenches every single day, you'll really like enjoy this one! I’m curious, if you don't have the official "Service Designer" title, what does your email signature currently say? Let me know. Enjoy the episode and keep making a positive impact. Be well, ~ Marc --- [ 1. GUIDE ] --- 00:00 Welcome to the April Round Up 2026 03:45 Career Paths to Service Design 05:30 Titles vs Doing the Role 06:15 Modern Human-Centered Design 07:15 UX Design for Kids 09:15 Supply Chain Overhauls 12:15 The Human Side of Blueprints 13:15 Product Repair Operations 15:30 Strategic Sneakiness 18:15 Fixing Complex Mergers 21:00 Politics as Design Material 21:45 Corporate Political Survival 24:15 Active Listening & Handoffs 28:30 Eliminating Corporate Jargon 33:45 Operational Alignment 39:15 Dangers of Toxic Politeness 44:15 Confronting Hard Truths 50:00 Customer Belief Toolkit 54:15 Leadership Evidence Layers --- [ 2. LINKS ] --- https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxseabrookehttps://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifer-kitchen-studio --- [ 3. CIRCLE ] --- Join our private community for in-house service design professionals. ⁠https://servicedesignshow.com/circle --- [ 4. FIND THE SHOW ON ] --- Youtube ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/inside-service-design-13-youtubeSpotify ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/inside-service-design-13-spotifyApple ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/inside-service-design-13-appleSnipd ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/inside-service-design-13-snipd

    1h 1m
  3. What the Agentic Era Means for Service Design / John Ayers / Ep. #254

    May 21

    What the Agentic Era Means for Service Design / John Ayers / Ep. #254

    We are moving way past the point of just typing prompts into chat interfaces. We are entering the "agentic era," where a single person can deploy high-level AI agents who manage their own teams of digital workers underneath them. This shift is triggering a massive compression of skills, collapsing separate specialized roles into a single generalist function. If most service interactions shift to agent-to-agent communication, the human experience risks disappearing completely. In this episode, John Ayers joins Marc to explore how to help the "80% in the middle". The people who are curious but completely exhausted by the daily AI hype cycle. You'll learn how to take your existing mapping toolkit and adapt it to build "AI service blueprints," translating human personas directly into digital agents so we don't lose empathy. As you listen, think about John’s closing challenge: When the dust settles two years from now, what do you actually want your career to look like? Be well, ~ Marc --- [ 1. GUIDE ] --- 00:00 Welcome to Episode 254 01:00 Introducing John Ayers 02:15 Reality vs AI Hype 03:45 Lessons From Past Shifts 07:15 Why AI is Different 09:00 The Rapid Pace of AI 11:30 The Shift to AI Agents 13:15 Agent-to-Agent Decisions 15:00 Building a Digital Workforce 16:15 Domain Knowledge vs General AI 18:00 Helping the Overwhelmed Majority 26:00 Avoiding Fake AI 29:15 The Governance Gap 31:00 The New AI Giants 34:00 Service Blueprinting for AI 35:00 Anatomy of an AI Agent 39:30 The Democratization Trap 41:30 Human Skills vs Job Losses 45:00 Stop Chasing Tech Tools 46:30 Focus on Humans, Not Jargon 51:45 Human Purpose in the AI Era 54:30 Avoiding AI Burnout 54:45 John’s Disruptor Confessions 56:15 Asking the Hard Questions 58:30 Wrap-Up and Community Call --- [ 2. LINKS ] --- LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnlayers/ --- [ 3. CIRCLE ] --- Join our private community for in-house service design professionals. ⁠https://servicedesignshow.com/circle --- [4. FIND THE SHOW ON] --- Youtube ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/254-youtubeSpotify ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/254-spotifyApple ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/254-appleSnipd ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/254-snipd

    1h 1m
  4. How to Shift CX from a Cost Center to a Strategic Asset / Journey Management Playbook S02E02

    May 14

    How to Shift CX from a Cost Center to a Strategic Asset / Journey Management Playbook S02E02

    Does your "Master Journey Map" just sit in a digital drawer? You aren’t alone. In this episode, we dive into "Journey Theater"— the trap of performing progress without moving the needle on business outcomes. We’re moving beyond "mapping for mapping’s sake." Learn how to shift from being a service provider to a strategic partner by building a living system that survives the next re-org. Watch this episode to learn: Why your budget holder is your real customerThe warning signs of Journey TheaterHow to shift from project cycles to an operational modelUsing the Journey Maturity Scorecard to track growthJust like the rest of the Playbook, this episode is best consumed as a video because we walk through specific examples, like the Journey Maturity Scorecard, on screen. If you’re listening on the go, you can always grab the slide deck from the show notes to follow along. Enjoy and keep making a positive impact! ~ Marc --- [1. LINKS 🔗 ] --- Playbook Slides - https://go.servicedesignshow.com/xo964Sign up for TheyDo - https://go.servicedesignshow.com/scjwb Journey Health Scorecard - https://go.servicedesignshow.com/journey-management-playbook-10-journey-health-scorecard-podcastThe Journey Management Playbook - https://www.theydo.com/resources/journey-management-playbook?utm_source=article&utm_medium=blog&utm_campaign=202605-Global-Marc --- [ 2. GUIDE 📺 ] --- 00:00 Welcome to Journey Management Playbook S2E2 03:45 Internal Customer 05:30 Decision Maker Needs 07:15 Budget Agenda 10:30 Impact Over Selling 13:15 Organizational Friction 16:15 The Journey Scope 19:15 Journey Theater 21:00 Reporting Progress Live 26:45 Breaking Project Cycles 30:45 Quantifying Wins 40:15 Decision Context 41:30 Continuous Insights 42:45 Common Language 44:00 Cross Vertical Impact 45:30 Eight Success Steps 46:45 AI Data Leverage 48:00 Delivery Authority 49:15 Proactive Influence 50:30 Impact Focus 51:45 Six Month Strategy 53:00 Revenue vs Cost 54:15 Agenda Alignment 56:45 Management Maturity 58:00 Scaling Momentum 1:00:45 Journey Health Score 1:04:30 Summary and Next Steps --- [ 3. FIND THE SHOW ON ] --- Youtube ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/journey-management-playbook-10-youtubeSpotify ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/journey-management-playbook-10-spotifyApple ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/journey-management-playbook-10-appleSnipd ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/journey-management-playbook-10-snipd

    1h 6m
  5. Reclaiming Your Energy When Design Feels Like a Losing Battle / Sara / Ep. #253

    May 7

    Reclaiming Your Energy When Design Feels Like a Losing Battle / Sara / Ep. #253

    Do you show up as an "A-student" constantly seeking the next gold star, only to feel personally attacked when your work is misunderstood? 🌟 In this episode, we tackle the "identity trap" in design and how to stay passionate without letting corporate exploitation drain your soul In this episode, you'll learn: Why wrapping your personal value in professional output leads to burnout and frustration. How the constant need for "exceeds expectations" reviews can actually undermine your professional agency. Strategies to care deeply about your impact without letting it define your humanity. How to feel in control even when your leadership doesn't yet grasp the full value of what you bring to the table Our guest: Sara Wachter-Boettcher Sara is a vocal leader in the design community and the founder of Active Voice, where she has coached dozens of professionals through these exact challenges. She joins Marc to explore how to lean into conversations about value without feeling like you’re constantly pleading for your seat at the table. As you'll hear, Sara brings some "tough love" that helps you come out the other side more confident. It’s about learning to keep your side of the street clean, even when the organization around you feels messy. Enjoy and keep making a positive impact! Be well, ~ Marc --- [ 1. GUIDE ] --- 00:00 Welcome to Episode 253 03:30 The collective headspace of design today 05:30 The impact of AI-related layoffs on design morale. 08:15 Era of cheap money 10:00 20-teens tech boom and its consequences 15:00 The ROI trap and identity 18:15 How shifting performance standards destabilize personal identity 22:00 Breaking the spell of work identity 24:45 Discomfort of realizing a job doesn't align with personal values 33:00 Navigating organizational change 38:45 Power mapping exercises 44:45 Empathy for colleagues 51:45 Concept of "humanizing" organizations to reduce isolation 55:15 Radical act of clocking out 57:00 Leadership without the ego 59:15 Strategic patience in a crisis 1:01:15 The value of the human behind the designer 01:14:15 Question to ponder --- [ 2. LINKS ] --- https://www.linkedin.com/in/saraboettcher --- [ 3. CIRCLE ] --- Join our private community for in-house service design professionals. ⁠https://servicedesignshow.com/circle [4. FIND THE SHOW ON] Youtube ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/253-youtubeSpotify ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/253-spotifyApple ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/253-appleSnipd ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/253-snipd

    1h 3m
  6. How to Thrive When Your Company Doesn't Get Service Design / Inside Service Design / Elle & Nick / Ep. #12

    Apr 30

    How to Thrive When Your Company Doesn't Get Service Design / Inside Service Design / Elle & Nick / Ep. #12

    You look around the room and realize you’re the only one who cares about the customer. 😫 It’s exhausting to be the lone voice begging for user research while everyone else just wants to ship the next feature. In this episode, Elle Beaumont-Bilsby and Nick Gaff join the show to discuss the heavy lifting required to be an in-house service design practitioner. We move beyond "thick skin" and look at how to build a sustainable career in environments that don't fully understand design. You’ll learn: Why surviving as a lone wolf is impossible and how to locate "quiet allies" hidden in other departments.A practical framework for building resilience at an organizational, service, and personal level.How Elle and Nick practice high-impact design without having "Service Designer" on their business cards.Practical tips for staying sane and avoiding burnout when you are the only advocate for the user.How to find a support crew outside your organization to help you carry the weight.I'm curious, if you had to make a guess, how many people do you have around you inside your org that get it? 1, 5, 20... let me know. Enjoy the episode and keep making a positive impact. ~ Marc --- [ 1. GUIDE ] --- 00:00 Welcome to the March Round Up 01:45 Defining Resilience 03:30 Service Design in Australia 04:45 Elle’s Design Journey 07:00 Nick’s Career Path 09:00 Effects of Digitization 11:00 Higher Ed Challenges 12:30 Impact Over Tools 14:00 The Resilient Self Season 14:45 3 Altitudes Framework 16:00 Organizational Resilience 17:00 Resilient Service Design 18:00 Personal Development 19:15 Recharging and Self-Care 20:00 Resilience as a Quality 21:00 Individual Resilience Focus 24:15 Peer Support Systems 28:00 Navigating Corporate Culture 31:30 Vulnerability in Leadership 35:45 Building Internal Allies 39:00 Friday Afternoon Reflections 42:15 Success Beyond Metrics 45:30 Managing High-Stress Projects 49:00 Sustainable Innovation 52:15 Resilience as Design Criteria 56:45 Switching Off and Recharging --- [ 2. LINKS ] --- https://www.linkedin.com/in/ellebeaumontbilsby/https://www.linkedin.com/in/ngaff/ --- [ 3. CIRCLE ] --- Join our private community for in-house service design professionals. ⁠https://servicedesignshow.com/circle --- [ 4. FIND THE SHOW ON ] --- Youtube ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/inside-service-design-12-youtubeSpotify ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/inside-service-design-12-spotifyApple ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/inside-service-design-12-appleSnipd ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/inside-service-design-12-snipd

    59 min
  7. The Story Vacuum: Why User Research Isn’t Enough / Brian Whittaker / Ep. #252

    Apr 23

    The Story Vacuum: Why User Research Isn’t Enough / Brian Whittaker / Ep. #252

    Imagine making the cover of Time magazine... Okay, maybe not. Nobody gets into service design for the fame. Actually, as we’re always saying on the show, our best work is usually the stuff nobody notices. The spotlight stays on the CEOs. You rarely see the people in the trenches, the ones making sure the "faceless" public services we rely on actually work. Think about it for a moment, you can thank a mailman because he’s a human being standing on your porch in the rain. But when water is coming out of your faucet, there’s nobody to thank. It’s just "the system". That invisibility is exactly why people sometimes get hostile toward the government or big institutions. It's always "us versus them" because there’s no "them" to relate to. So our guest for this episode, Brian Whittaker, decided to change by starting a project called Humans of Public Service (HoPS). In this episode, we talk about the early days of the project and the weirdly difficult task of getting modest, quiet service design professionals to actually talk about themselves (on camera). He also shares hard won lessons on how he finally got the project to take off. It’s an inspiring conversation. It shows how much the vibe changes when you put a human face on a anonymous system. So if you’re trying to build empathy inside a big, messy organization, Brian’s blueprint really might just be what you need. While you’re listening, try to think of one "boring" story in your own org that deserves a spotlight. Enjoy the conversation and keep making a positive impact! Be well, ~ Marc --- [ 1. GUIDE ] --- 00:00 Welcome to Episode 252 03:45 Family Roots in Service 05:00 Current US Service Challenges 07:30 Private to Public Transition 10:00 Modernizing Federal Tech 11:00 Passion of Public Servants 13:30 The Shift in 2020 14:15 Humans of Public Service 15:45 Growing on LinkedIn 17:00 Amplifying Unheard Voices 18:15 Shifting the Narrative 21:30 Bridging the Empathy Gap 25:45 The Power of Recognition 32:45 Institutional Design 38:30- Scaling Human Connection 44:55 The Future of Service 51:15 Advice for Change-Makers 53:30 Final Reflections --- [ 2. LINKS ] --- https://www.linkedin.com/in/bwhtt/ --- [ 3. CIRCLE ] --- Join our private community for in-house service design professionals. ⁠https://servicedesignshow.com/circle [4. FIND THE SHOW ON] Youtube ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/252-youtubeSpotify ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/252-spotifyApple ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/252-appleSnipd ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/252-snipd

    55 min
  8. Why Bad CX is Your Greatest Leverage Point / Journey Management Playbook / S2E01

    Apr 16

    Why Bad CX is Your Greatest Leverage Point / Journey Management Playbook / S2E01

    How do you get your boss to actually fund journey management? 💰 We’ve all felt the frustration of making an impressive map that everyone "likes" but nobody actually uses. when that happens, our practice loses credibility. Season 2 of the Journey Management Playbook is here to fix that by focusing on the BUSINESS CASE. What we cover in this episode Why journey management is a strategic asset, not a "nice-to-have."how to calculate the actual cost of bad customer experience.shifting the conversation from "fluffy" CX metrics to boardroom metrics.getting stakeholders to embrace a journey-led way of working.Martin Palamarz is the chief customer officer at TheyDo. he spends his time helping global organizations scale their CX efforts and understands the language of executive decision-making. It’s best to watch the video version on Youtube to see the examples on screen, but you can also find the slide deck in the show notes below. --- [ 1. LINKS ] --- Playbook Slides - https://go.servicedesignshow.com/tq4e4CX Cost Calculator - https://go.servicedesignshow.com/journey-management-playbook-09-cx-cost-calculator-podcastThe Journey Management Playbook - https://www.theydo.com/resources/journey-management-playbook --- [ 2. GUIDE ] --- 00:00 Journey Management Playbook S2E01 02:00 Martin's background 04:30 Origin story of TheyDo 06:45 Series overview: CX costs 08:45 The CX Toolkit 10:00 Bridging the gap 13:45 Forrester research findings 16:30 CX & business performance 19:30 The Norway story 23:00 Boardroom metrics 30:45 The Cost of Bad CX 38:30 High-value journey steps 40:30 Drop Off Rate Explained 42:30 "Nice-to-have" trap 48:15 Service design & revenue 50:00 Starting small 52:15 Mckinsey research 57:30 AI for customer data 1:00:00 3-minute executive reports 1:01:30 Ticket value & variables 1:08:30 Bad CX VS. CX Investment 1:12:00 Building momentum 1:14:00 the final challenge --- [ 3. FIND THE SHOW ON ] --- Youtube ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/journey-management-playbook-09-youtubeSpotify ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/journey-management-playbook-09-spotifyApple ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/journey-management-playbook-09-appleSnipd ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/journey-management-playbook-09-snipd

    1h 16m
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