ISF Podcast

Information Security Forum Podcast

The ISF Podcast brings you cutting-edge conversation, tailored to CISOs, CTOs, CROs, and other global security pros. In every episode of the ISF Podcast, Chief Executive, Steve Durbin speaks with rule-breakers, collaborators, culture builders, and business creatives who manage their enterprise with vision, transparency, authenticity, and integrity. From the Information Security Forum, the leading authority on cyber, information security, and risk management.

  1. James Wilkson - The Human Factor: Leadership, Risk and the AI Era

    21h ago

    James Wilkson - The Human Factor: Leadership, Risk and the AI Era

    Today, Steve speaks with James Wilkson, managing partner at AEC Global Search Consultants, an executive search and advisory firm. James and Steve discuss why today’s leaders must be flexible and emotionally intelligent, who belongs in today’s boardrooms, and how leaders can protect their personal brands online. Steve also asks James to look into the crystal ball. Key Takeaways: The most important trait for leaders today is flexibility. Today’s leaders must understand the technology they’re implementing in their organizations.  Almost everything you do is visible online today, so be careful and mind your behavior. Tune in to hear more about: Managing different generations in the workplace (4:18) How boards can upskill (12:31) What will surprise leaders a year from now (18:29) Standout Quotes: “I think AI, without a doubt is going to continue to accelerate and alter how we think, but just like anything else, it's just going to be an extremely robust tool down the line.” - James Wilkson “And leaders today, the leaders that are well-trained at being able to relate across generations and across technology are the ones that are going to continue being the leaders, and they're going to hone the next leadership team. The ones that are resistant and the ones that are frustrated, they're just not going to sustain leadership roles that much longer.” - James Wilkson “It's just a massive tsunami of discussion about AI and how it's going to change everything, and it is, but I think we're only going to briefly be led by this loss of work purpose, this loss of what... I think companies right now, the reason there's such a holdback on what do we do? We really slowed down hiring, are the entry level jobs all going to be gone? Yes, probably briefly because we're having a reaction, a knee-jerk reaction, but I think we're going to quickly find out that this is going to bring about a lot of different opportunity. So I think we'll plateau for a while, and then we'll begin utilizing humans in different roles that are still the same role that's just adapted itself to what technology has brought for us.” - James Wilkson Read the transcript of this episodeSubscribe to the ISF Podcast wherever you listen to podcastsConnect with us on LinkedIn and Twitter From the Information Security Forum, the leading authority on cyber, information security, and risk management.

    22 min
  2. Stephanie Forbes - The $4.2 Trillion Problem: Why Boards Can't Afford to Ignore Supply Chain Fraud

    Jun 16

    Stephanie Forbes - The $4.2 Trillion Problem: Why Boards Can't Afford to Ignore Supply Chain Fraud

    Today, Steve sits down with Stephanie Forbes, CEO of the Forbes Group. Stephanie is a supply chain expert who recently released Global Wealth, Local Impact: How Supply Chains Build Thriving Companies, Cultures, and Countries, a book about building supply chains using lessons from our past. She and Steve discuss what she learned in her research for the book and supply chain management principles leaders can rely on in these unsteady times. Stephanie also gives advice for small and medium-sized businesses, how to manage supply chain issues across departments, and digital risk management.  Key Takeaways: Frequent reviews of internal systems and supplier compliance are key to supply chain management in uncertain times.  We innovate and solve problems better when we work in teams and across departments, and it’s the leader’s job to enable and encourage such collaboration. Boards have the responsibility to ask questions and investigate whether their organizations are managing their supply chains as well and securely as they could.  Tune in to hear more about: What history teaches us about how we manage societies (2:08) How supply chains will change over the next five to ten years (10:25) The three questions boards should ask to secure their supply chains (25:58) Standout Quotes: “If I'm only a couple of people, 10 people, then I'm probably not going to bring in a full-scale audit unless I'm importing a lot of goods, unless I have a really big tariff bill, and then it's probably worth it for me to take a look at that. So you're going to want to cherry pick the things that are really important.” - Stephanie Forbes “It's going to become very difficult, I think, in another five, 10 years to buy anything that doesn't have a full life -cycle knowledge, awareness or paper trail. And that's gonna be all the way down to the ink or the physical ore, all that kind of stuff.” - Stephanie Forbes “The more as a leader in your organization that you can really encourage and foster that cross-functional collaboration between your operations and whether it's procurement, supply chain, even finance, to really make sure everyone's talking the same language, it becomes a huge competitive advantage, especially when things are changing so rapidly.” - Stephanie Forbes Read the transcript of this episodeSubscribe to the ISF Podcast wherever you listen to podcastsConnect with us on LinkedIn and Twitter From the Information Security Forum, the leading authority on cyber, information security, and risk management.

    28 min
  3. Dustin Dobbyn - Train Like Your Life Depends on It: A SWAT Operator on Cyber Resilience

    Jun 9

    Dustin Dobbyn - Train Like Your Life Depends on It: A SWAT Operator on Cyber Resilience

    Today, Steve speaks with Dustin Dobbyn, an internationally recognized security expert, Marine Corps veteran, former SWAT operator, and the CEO of a fast-growing private security and executive protection firm. The two discuss management under pressure, the value of training and preparation, and awareness of supply chain risk. Dustin also makes the case for agility and flexibility in the workplace.   Key Takeaways: Physical security and cybersecurity are no longer separate arenas and organizations must realize all forms of security impact one another.  Intelligence is your greatest friend when building organizational resilience.  Work schedule flexibility can significantly improve productivity.  Tune in to hear more about: Securing all levels of your supply chain (8:15) A skill that veterans can bring to the cybersecurity industry (14:05) Dustin’s resilience roadmap for the next five years (18:02) Standout Quotes: “If you think you know it all, it's time to get out of the business.” - Dustin Dobbyn “So we're seeing, especially in the corporate world for corporate security, a lot of people working remote on a flex schedule, and we're seeing a lot more productivity because of it. For leadership out there who's listening, absolutely just take that into consideration, as sometimes people work better at certain times of the day based on their schedule. And if you can get them in an environment where they're less stressed, you're going to get better work output out of them.” - Dustin Dobbyn “Knowledge is power. Intelligence is what's going to keep you safe because if you have the intelligence, you're aware of what's going on, and you can prepare for worst-case scenarios.” - Dustin Dobbyn Read the transcript of this episodeSubscribe to the ISF Podcast wherever you listen to podcastsConnect with us on LinkedIn and Twitter From the Information Security Forum, the leading authority on cyber, information security, and risk management.

    21 min
  4. Peter Hinssen - The New Never Normal: AI, the Future of Business and the Leaders We Need

    Jun 2

    Peter Hinssen - The New Never Normal: AI, the Future of Business and the Leaders We Need

    Today, one of our favorite guests returns: Peter Hinssen. A renowned keynote speaker, author and serial entrepreneur, Peter is one of the most sought-after thought leaders on radical innovation, leadership and the impact of all things digital on society and business. When Peter was last on the show, the world had just begun to recover from the Covid-19 pandemic, and generative AI was still in its infancy. This time around, Steve and Peter talk about the advancements of AI and what they mean for the C-suite, whether the tech companies have become too powerful, AI regulation, and the future of leadership. Peter also answers how we will remember this AI boom in 10 years.  Key Takeaways: This period of rapid change that we’re currently going through won’t pass, but rather become the new (never) normal. Regulators must rethink their approach to create frameworks for new technology that actually work. Headcount is no longer a key measure when it comes to a business’ success. Tune in to hear more about: How to manage this era of volatility and constant change (3:30) How leadership is changing (14:30) Why small businesses might be better equipped to deal with the AI boom (21:06) Standout Quotes: “We’re now in a world where the cycles move faster than ever before. The stakes are higher, and I think a lot of the instruments that we had from the past just don’t work anymore.” - Peter Hinssen  “The larger the company is, the more difficult it is to get that change going, and that’s why inherently smaller organizations have, I think, a competitive advantage because being agile, being nimble, and being resilient should be easier for a smaller company than a larger organization.” - Peter Hinssen “When you look at the printing press moment, we had the industrialization of knowledge, where we went from monks transcribing books into an abundance of information, and then we had the Industrial Revolution, where we went from muscle to machine. I think this is where the two of them are coming together.” - Peter Hinssen Read the transcript of this episodeSubscribe to the ISF Podcast wherever you listen to podcastsConnect with us on LinkedIn and Twitter From the Information Security Forum, the leading authority on cyber, information security, and risk management.

    28 min
  5. Betsy Cooper - The Policy Gap: Navigating AI, Risk and Regulation

    May 19

    Betsy Cooper - The Policy Gap: Navigating AI, Risk and Regulation

    In this episode, Steve is in conversation with Betsy Cooper, director of the Aspen Policy Academy at the Aspen Institute. As an expert in cyber and tech policy, Betsy shares her thoughts on how policymakers can keep pace with the rapid developments in AI and quantum technology, building a futureproof compliance strategy, and AI risks. Steve and Betsy also discuss policymaking in a volatile world, how businesses can protect their image after a breach, and what can be done to get governments to care about online scams.  Key Takeaways: Legislative experiments at the local and regional levels will be key for crafting strong, sensible, tech policy on the national level. Tabletop exercises are one of the best tools for preparing the C-suite for breaches and attacks. People must start to speak up against the growing prevalence of having to trade privacy for access to the most basic online tools and sites. Tune in to hear more about: Creating a “future-proof” compliance strategy (7:11) Protecting your brand following a breach, data theft, or disinformation campaigns (13:35) Trading access for personal information (22:31) Standout Quotes: “I do think that it would be preferable to have one coherent framework. I think industry would benefit from that if we did have that sort of framework. But also, I'm not sure that we're at the level of sophistication today that we'd be able to write the best framework because we haven't experimented enough. So I actually think that having the state and local sort of sandboxes leading to future federal policy is not a bad approach.” - Betsy Cooper “It's a very difficult thing to try to prove a negative, and that's why disinformation can be so powerful. But it's also a very fast-moving space, so the faster you can get in there with your counter-narrative, the more likely you are to be successful.” - Betsy Cooper “I'm the mother of a five-year-old, and in order to get my five-year-old's baseball schedule, I have to download an app on my phone. There is no web access for the app that has the baseball schedule. So in order to get that baseball schedule, I have to sign away a whole bunch of privacy just to get my kid to a sports game. I think that shouldn't be allowed.” - Betsy Cooper Read the transcript of this episodeSubscribe to the ISF Podcast wherever you listen to podcastsConnect with us on LinkedIn and Twitter From the Information Security Forum, the leading authority on cyber, information security, and risk management.

    26 min
  6. Dr. Keith Morneau - AI & the Resilient Workforce: Thriving in the Next Decade

    May 12

    Dr. Keith Morneau - AI & the Resilient Workforce: Thriving in the Next Decade

    Today’s guest is Dr. Keith Morneau, an experienced cybersecurity professional who currently serves as Dean of Computer and Information Science at ECPI University. Steve and Kieth discuss the future of the cyber workforce, cyber education, and if AI is taking our jobs. Steve also asks Keith to step into the shoes of a CEO… Key Takeaways: In today’s cyber world, having an understanding of how systems interact is more important than ever. People with non-technical backgrounds are often quick learners when it comes to cyber, and bring in fresh perspectives.  In new hires, executives should look for people who understand how to work with AI.  Tune in to hear more about: How AI can help junior staff and those entering the cyber workforce (6:15) Dr. Morneau’s ”prepare, practice, perform, assess” philosophy (13:23) One obsolete role chief executives should stop hiring for, and one emerging role they haven't even thought about yet (21:15)  Standout Quotes: “We’re really still in the baby steps of AI, in the beginning stages of it. What I’ve noticed of a lot of folks, there’s AI there, but they’re not 100% understanding how it all works, how the AI actually has to be trained and all that. I think over time what we'll see is the increase in knowledge and skill set using AI for what they’re doing in their jobs should help with the bottom line over time.” - Dr. Keith Morneau “The biggest issue in cybersecurity are the AI systems that are very vulnerable to attacks.” - Dr. Keith Morneau “The type of person you need to look at is the person who’s able to use AI to do the job that you need them to be able to do better and faster, and be more efficient at it. What you have to be careful of is the people that are going to be obsolete are the ones that are basically fighting the AI and not using AI at all to help them, because that is pretty much they are going to be dinosaurs soon, if they’re not already dinosaurs.” - Dr. Keith Morneau Read the transcript of this episodeSubscribe to the ISF Podcast wherever you listen to podcastsConnect with us on LinkedIn and Twitter From the Information Security Forum, the leading authority on cyber, information security, and risk management.

    25 min
  7. John "Jock" Brocas - Gut Instinct: The Intuitive Edge in Cyber Security

    May 5

    John "Jock" Brocas - Gut Instinct: The Intuitive Edge in Cyber Security

    In today’s episode, Steve sits down with John “Jock" Brocas, a former military member who is now an executive mentor and strategic intuitive intelligence advisor to the C-suite. Jock is far from your typical cyber professional, but his experience working with executives gives him a compelling perspective on challenges faced in our industry. Steve and Jock discuss how we can train ourselves to block out the noise and become better at recognizing the real threats to our business, the value of mindfulness and managing stress, and why leaders must see the big picture. Jock also shares his thoughts on deepfakes, from the perspective of a medium.  Key Takeaways: Adopting a warrior mindset means blending logic and intuition. Taking a break, even just for a few seconds, is crucial to managing stressful situations. Meditating can help you become better at discerning what matters and what doesn’t.  Tune in to hear more about: Discerning the signal from the noise () How leaders can help their teams manage stress, both long-term and in acute situations () Jock’s thoughts on deepfakes () Standout Quotes: “Logic and intuition are not separate. And this is the biggest mistake we make. We don't fail in making decisions, especially in the cyber world because of the amount of data we have. We fail at the discernment of maybe that data.” - Jock Brocas “I think it’s important as well that looking at a more spiritual outlook to things, not religious in any way, a meditative or a contemplative side of things. And how many security professionals or cybersecurity professionals take time for themselves to actually even breathe in between doing something?” - Jock Brocas “Discernment, even as a cyber professional, is important. So discernment of the self, discernment of the mind, that's important.” - Jock Brocas Read the transcript of this episodeSubscribe to the ISF Podcast wherever you listen to podcastsConnect with us on LinkedIn and Twitter From the Information Security Forum, the leading authority on cyber, information security, and risk management.

    23 min
  8. Emily Holyoake - Beyond Infrastructure: The Case for Putting People First

    Apr 28

    Emily Holyoake - Beyond Infrastructure: The Case for Putting People First

    Today’s episode might sound a little bit different, but it’s a really important conversation. Steve sits down with Emily Holyoake, co-founder of Not A Standard and the brain behind the FRAME Network, to talk about the human harm of cyber attacks, gender-based violence, tech-facilitated abuse, and diversity in the cybersecurity industry. Steve also asks Emily to envision the future of the cyber workforce, one that creates safety for society and people, not just machines and data.  Key Takeaways: Every attack begins and ends with a human and a breach can have an existential impact on people’s lives. Attribution too often is aimed at individual humans, when we should look at the systems that enabled the person to cause the harm. Diversity within your teams enables a richer environment for problem-solving. Tune in to hear more about: The SAFE Framework (1:57) Why Emily pen-tests her personal life – and why you should, too (18:44) Building a cyber workforce for a safer society (20:56) Standout Quotes: “A person clicks on a phishing link that results in a breach. So we blame the individual instead of thinking what did the system, literally or figuratively, allow to happen that meant that person clicked on that link? But we think we've got to find the root cause. So we pick a human rather than thinking about what the system enabled.” - Emily Holyoake “Every attack begins and ends with a human, fundamentally. In security, we talk so often about people being the weakest link. Fair enough, right? You can have all the technical controls in the world and it just takes one person to break that. But we wouldn't have this business, we wouldn't have this culture, we wouldn't have anything without these people. And so people are, if anything, our greatest asset.” - Emily Holyoake “When you have a diverse group of people thinking about the same problem in different ways from different backgrounds, different experiences, you're going to get an infinitely richer understanding or solution to a problem.” - Emily Holyoake Read the transcript of this episodeSubscribe to the ISF Podcast wherever you listen to podcastsConnect with us on LinkedIn and Twitter From the Information Security Forum, the leading authority on cyber, information security, and risk management.

    24 min

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The ISF Podcast brings you cutting-edge conversation, tailored to CISOs, CTOs, CROs, and other global security pros. In every episode of the ISF Podcast, Chief Executive, Steve Durbin speaks with rule-breakers, collaborators, culture builders, and business creatives who manage their enterprise with vision, transparency, authenticity, and integrity. From the Information Security Forum, the leading authority on cyber, information security, and risk management.

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