CCEF Podcast: Where Life & Scripture Meet

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How do the treasures of Scripture connect with the troubles of life? As Christians, we have the privilege and challenge of exploring this question. Join CCEF faculty as they consider how Scripture meets us in day-to-day life, covering topics such as anxiety, grief, relationships, and more. Where Life & Scripture Meet is a biblical counseling podcast from the Christian Counseling & Educational Foundation, which seeks to restore Christ to counseling and counseling to the church. Learn more at ccef.org.

  1. 2d ago

    The Personal God Gets Personal with Us

    In this first episode of a new seven-part series on CCEF's distinctives, Gunner Gundersen sits down with Ed Welch and Jonathan Holmes to discuss the first distinctive: "The personal God gets personal with us." Together, they reflect on how Scripture presents a God who draws near to his people: from the garden of Eden to the incarnation of Christ to the promised future where God will dwell with his people forever. The conversation explores how the Trinity shapes our understanding of relationships, counseling, church life, and personal ministry. These truths help churches to embody a "culture of pursuit" with warmth and hospitality as natural overflows of a real relationship with God. The episode also introduces CCEF's broader distinctives and explains why these priorities continue to shape the ministry's counseling, teaching, and care for the church. Mentioned in this episode: Our latest episode of the JBC: ccef.org/jbc Our distinctives: ccef.org/about/#distinctives Related resource: The Personal God | Article by David Powlison

    41 min

  2. May 18

    Unity in Marriage: Lessons from Philippians (Part 2)

    Some of the most formative marriage counsel isn't found in a book, a technique, or a counseling session, but rather it comes from watching another couple walk faithfully with Jesus over time.  In part two of this conversation, CCEF's Gunner Gundersen and Aaron Sironi explore Paul's surprising strategy in Philippians: imitation. Paul doesn't point to marriage principles but instead insists we keep our eyes on people who imitate Christ.  Aaron also shares the rest of his story: how an honest "I don't know" in a conversation with a church elder launched him into biblical counseling, and what he's learned since about the deeper longings underneath many struggling marriages: Do I matter to you? Will you be there? Listen to a rich conversation about slow formation, counter-images, and what it looks like to have a marriage worthy of the gospel. Mentioned in this episode: Register now at ccef.org/2026 for our CCEF Annual Conference before the price increases after June 16. Related resources: Dynamics of Biblical Change | Online course taught by David Powlison Speaking Truth in Marital Conflict | Blog by Lauren Whitman On Marriage Counseling | JBC Must Reads by Aaron Sironi, Lauren Whitman, Winston Smith

    35 min

  3. May 4

    Unity in Marriage: Lessons from Philippians (Part 1)

    What if some of the most important biblical passages for your marriage don't explicitly talk about husbands and wives? In this episode, Gunner Gundersen and Aaron Sironi explore how the book of Philippians offers a powerful framework for navigating conflict and cultivating unity in marriage. They uncover how the gospel itself shapes the way husbands and wives relate to one another. Aaron shares how lasting change in marriage doesn't come primarily through techniques but through adopting the mind of Christ: a posture of humility, sacrificial love, and deep attentiveness to one another's burdens. They'll cover why conflict in marriage is inevitable and how it can become redemptive, what it looks like to "re-do" conflict in a gospel-shaped way, and how Philippians 2 reframes how we approach our spouse's struggles. Whether you're married, counseling others, or simply seeking to grow in Christlike relationships, this conversation offers a hopeful and deeply practical vision for change. Mentioned in this episode: Please consider giving to CCEF to help bring more counseling resources and training to the church. You can give at ccef.org/donate. - I Don't Feel Like I have Enough Support from My Husband | Video by Lauren Whitman - Good Cop Bad Cop in the Home | Blog by Ed Welch

    41 min

  4. Apr 20

    The Art of Mentoring

    What does it mean to mentor someone well? In this episode, Gunner Gundersen sits down with CCEF faculty member Todd Stryd to explore mentoring as a long-term, relational investment that shapes both the mentee and the mentor. Together, they discuss how mentoring provides clarity, fosters growth through both encouragement and critique, and ultimately becomes a place of deep dependence on God. Mentioned in this episode: Registration for our June courses is now open! One key course that features opportunities to grow in mentoring skills is Helping Relationships by Ed Welch. You can learn more and register at ccef.org/school. - Why Do You Think You Can Do Better? | Blog by Esther Liu

    32 min

  5. Apr 6

    A Conversation with Jonathan Holmes: CCEF's Executive Director

    "We're excited to announce Jonathan Holmes as our new Executive Director! In this episode, Gunner interviews Jonathan about his journey into biblical counseling, his background, and his vision for CCEF. They discuss the importance of counseling in the church, the founding of Fieldstone Counseling, and the future direction of CCEF. Read the latest announcement from CCEF's Board of Trustees regarding Jonathan Holmes's recent appointment to the role of Executive Director. Mentioned in this episode: Becoming a Refuge is an on-demand teaching series that helps churches respond to domestic abuse. Learn more here. In this episode, Jonathan mentions an article by David Powlison, "What Is Your Calling?" Journal of Biblical Counseling 28, no. 3 (2014). Find it here.

    39 min

  6. Mar 16

    The Beauty and Burden of Caregiving: A Personal Story (Part 2)

    In this episode of Where Life and Scripture Meet, host Gunner Gundersen continues his conversation with CCEF faculty member Mike Emlet about caring for aging parents. Building on the previous episode, Mike reflects on the blessings and burdens of caring for his mother during her final season of life. Mike shares how he and his wife navigated difficult caregiving decisions, wrestled with their own limitations, and sought wisdom as his mother's needs increased. Along the way, he reflects on anxiety, fatigue, grief, and the steady presence of God's grace in the midst of weakness. This conversation offers encouragement for anyone currently caring for aging loved ones, considering future caregiving responsibilities, or processing the grief that often accompanies these journeys. Mike describes how the Lord met his family through Scripture, prayer, and the support of the church, in a demanding season and reminded them that grace and weakness often coexist.

    38 min

  7. Mar 2

    The Beauty and Burden of Caregiving: A Personal Story (Part 1)

    In this episode of Where Life and Scripture Meet, host Gunner Gundersen sits down with Dr. Mike Emlet to reflect on his recent experience caring for his aging mother during the final years of her life. Mike shares about his mom, "Mim" — her vibrant faith, her lifelong commitment to the local church, her sense of humor, and her remarkable ministry of handwritten letters. He also opens up about the gradual onset of cognitive decline, the impact of dementia and stroke, and the practical and emotional realities of caregiving. Mike and Gunner discuss the weight and the sweetness of walking closely with a loved one through suffering and decline. There is beauty and cost, and Jesus is in the midst of it. Mentioned in this episode: sign up to receive 6 conference sessions on conflict and unity. Sign up here: ccef.org/free-audio-for-conflict-and-unity/ Books by Dr. Mike Emlet: CrossTalk: Where Life and Scripture Meet Descriptions and Prescriptions: A Biblical Perspective on Psychiatric Diagnoses & Medications Saints, Sufferers, and Sinners: Loving Others as God Loves Us

    34 min

  8. Feb 16

    Life Together in Christ: Why Union with Jesus Changes Our Relationships

    What does it mean to be united to Christ—and how does that shape the way we relate to others? In this episode, Gunner Gundersen, Esther Liu, and Darby Strickland explore the doctrine of union with Christ and its deeply practical impact on everyday relationships. If our truest relationship is already secure in Jesus, how might that free us to love others differently? Together, they discuss how union with Christ grounds us in unshakable security, frees us from defensiveness, gives courage to apologize and forgive, reorients transactional views of relationships, and helps us make sense of church hurt. Because we are united to Christ, we are also united to one another. That shared belonging reshapes how we approach conflict, difference, and even the pain of broken community. Join us as we consider what it looks like to live life together in Christ. Community: A Struggle to Fit | Blog by Darby Strickland "How can I avoid the temptation to isolate myself in suffering?" | Video by Cecelia Bernhardt Make Every Effort: Paul Urges Unity in the Church | Conference Session by Aaron Sironi

    37 min
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How do the treasures of Scripture connect with the troubles of life? As Christians, we have the privilege and challenge of exploring this question. Join CCEF faculty as they consider how Scripture meets us in day-to-day life, covering topics such as anxiety, grief, relationships, and more. Where Life & Scripture Meet is a biblical counseling podcast from the Christian Counseling & Educational Foundation, which seeks to restore Christ to counseling and counseling to the church. Learn more at ccef.org.

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