Keep It Human Podcast

Jim Bouchard

The Keep It Human® Podcast is where conversations turn into community. Join me — Jim Bouchard, leadership activist and founder of Keep It Human® — as we explore how to lead with authenticity in an AI-driven world. Each episode comes with a companion Substack article to help you dive deeper, reflect, and join the conversation about how we can inspire, empower, and guide one another. keepithumannetwork.substack.com

Episodes

  1. 3d ago

    KIH Re-PlayWhat Do I Tell Them? (When I really don't know!)

    We’re on vacation. And no, I’m not going to spend it frantically writing articles so the algorithm knows I’m still alive. 😎 Instead, we’re opening the Keep It Human™ vault this week and bringing back a couple of pieces that deserve another look. First up: What Do I Tell Them? (When I Really Don’t Know!) We originally published this around our first Leadership Lab. That Lab is closed—but another one is coming. More on that soon. I’ve worked with thousands of young and rising leaders over the past 15-plus years. One question comes up again and again: “What do I tell people when I really don’t know?” Watch the video above… The problem isn’t that leaders don’t have all the answers. The problem starts when we think we’re supposed to. That fear usually pushes us toward three bad choices: * Pretend to be more certain than we really are. * Say nothing until we think we have all the answers. * Dump every concern and possibility onto the people around us. None of those builds confidence. Silence, especially, rarely creates calm. It creates a vacuum. And people fill vacuums with rumors, fear, and imagination. The monster is always bigger in the closet. Sometimes we just need to open the door and let in a little light. Confidence Is Not Certainty True confidence isn’t knowing how everything is going to turn out. It’s being able to say: “Here’s what I know. I don’t have every answer yet. But we’re going to work through this together.” I learned a lot about this through martial arts. You never know exactly what’s going to happen when you step into a fight. Confidence doesn’t come from certainty about the outcome. It comes from training and preparation. I don’t know if I’m going to win or lose. I do know I’ve trained. I do know I’m prepared to face what’s in front of me. And if I’m not prepared yet, I can learn. That same idea applies to leadership. The Four-Part Confidence Brief When you’re leading through uncertainty, give people four things. 1. What We Know Separate facts from noise. Avoid speculation, guessing, interpretation, and promises you can’t back up. Tell people what you can reasonably confirm right now. 2. What We Don’t Know Yet That word yet matters. It tells people the question is still active. It hasn’t been ignored. And don’t be afraid to ask for help. Someone closer to the work may understand the situation better than you do. The higher you move in an organization, the more important that becomes. You simply cannot know everything happening at every level. Trust your people. 3. What We’re Doing Now Show people the work already underway. What are you investigating? What decisions are being made? What can people contribute? The more people participate in solving the problem, the less you have to worry about getting them to “buy in.” They’re already part of it. People handle uncertainty much better when they can see evidence of responsible action. 4. When You’ll Hear From Me Again This one is critical. Give people a timetable. Then keep it. If you say you’ll update them Tuesday, update them Tuesday. Not Wednesday. Not Thursday. And never make people chase you for the next update. Three Questions After you communicate with your team, ask yourself: * Do they understand the situation more clearly? * Do they know what they can do right now? * Do they know when they’ll hear from me again? If the answer is yes to all three, you’re probably doing your job. Leaders are not the people who have all the answers. Trust isn’t built by having all the answers either. It’s built by showing people that you can face uncertainty with courage, honesty, confidence, and competence. You don’t need all the answers to lead effectively. You need the courage to tell the truth, do the work, and keep communicating with the people who trust in your leadership. Want to go deeper? We’ve built this framework into our Leadership Field Guides and into our live Keep It Human™ Leadership Labs. Our first Lab, What Do I Tell Them?, is focused specifically on leading and communicating when you don’t have all the answers. The best way to get the Field Guides, follow the Leadership Labs, and join us for future sessions is to subscribe. Uncertainty isn’t going away. We can let it overwhelm us. Or we can transform uncertainty into an opportunity to improve as leaders. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit keepithumannetwork.substack.com

  2. Aug 10

    What Do I Tell Them? (When I really don't know!)

    I’ve worked with thousands of young and rising leaders over the past 15-plus years. One question comes up again and again: “What do I tell people when I really don’t know?” Watch the video above… The problem isn’t that leaders don’t have all the answers. The problem starts when we think we’re supposed to. That fear usually pushes us toward three bad choices: * Pretend to be more certain than we really are. * Say nothing until we think we have all the answers. * Dump every concern and possibility onto the people around us. None of those builds confidence. Silence, especially, rarely creates calm. It creates a vacuum. And people fill vacuums with rumors, fear, and imagination. The monster is always bigger in the closet. Sometimes we just need to open the door and let in a little light. Confidence Is Not Certainty True confidence isn’t knowing how everything is going to turn out. It’s being able to say: “Here’s what I know. I don’t have every answer yet. But we’re going to work through this together.” I learned a lot about this through martial arts. You never know exactly what’s going to happen when you step into a fight. Confidence doesn’t come from certainty about the outcome. It comes from training and preparation. I don’t know if I’m going to win or lose. I do know I’ve trained. I do know I’m prepared to face what’s in front of me. And if I’m not prepared yet, I can learn. That same idea applies to leadership. The Four-Part Confidence Brief When you’re leading through uncertainty, give people four things. 1. What We Know Separate facts from noise. Avoid speculation, guessing, interpretation, and promises you can’t back up. Tell people what you can reasonably confirm right now. 2. What We Don’t Know Yet That word yet matters. It tells people the question is still active. It hasn’t been ignored. And don’t be afraid to ask for help. Someone closer to the work may understand the situation better than you do. The higher you move in an organization, the more important that becomes. You simply cannot know everything happening at every level. Trust your people. 3. What We’re Doing Now Show people the work already underway. What are you investigating? What decisions are being made? What can people contribute? The more people participate in solving the problem, the less you have to worry about getting them to “buy in.” They’re already part of it. People handle uncertainty much better when they can see evidence of responsible action. 4. When You’ll Hear From Me Again This one is critical. Give people a timetable. Then keep it. If you say you’ll update them Tuesday, update them Tuesday. Not Wednesday. Not Thursday. And never make people chase you for the next update. Three Questions After you communicate with your team, ask yourself: * Do they understand the situation more clearly? * Do they know what they can do right now? * Do they know when they’ll hear from me again? If the answer is yes to all three, you’re probably doing your job. Leaders are not the people who have all the answers. Trust isn’t built by having all the answers either. It’s built by showing people that you can face uncertainty with courage, honesty, confidence, and competence. You don’t need all the answers to lead effectively. You need the courage to tell the truth, do the work, and keep communicating with the people who trust in your leadership. Want to go deeper? We’ve built this framework into our Leadership Field Guides and into our live Keep It Human™ Leadership Labs. Our first Lab, What Do I Tell Them?, is focused specifically on leading and communicating when you don’t have all the answers. The best way to get the Field Guides, follow the Leadership Labs, and join us for future sessions is to subscribe. Uncertainty isn’t going away. We can let it overwhelm us. Or we can transform uncertainty into an opportunity to improve as leaders. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit keepithumannetwork.substack.com

  3. May 20

    Would You Buy Your Own Company?

    Value Isn’t Created at Exit. It’s Exposed. Some of the best conversations don’t happen when the red light is on. They happen before the interview starts, after the recording ends, or in those unguarded moments when people stop performing and start talking honestly. This episode came out of one of those conversations. My guest is Ian Smith, founder of The Portfolio Partnership, author of The Acquirer’s Playbook and Fulfilling the Potential of Your Business, and a deeply experienced advisor in mergers, acquisitions, scaling, and business value. But this isn’t just a conversation about selling a business. It’s about building one worth owning. Ian makes a powerful point early in the conversation: many entrepreneurs imagine they’re building a business they can someday sell, but if they looked at their own company through the eyes of a buyer, they might hesitate. Is the company too dependent on the founder? Are the customers too concentrated? Is the culture healthy? Are people engaged? Are expectations clear? Is the business scalable — or merely growing? That’s where the human side becomes inseparable from the technical side. Culture may not show up neatly on a balance sheet, but buyers can feel it. Employees live it. Customers experience it. And leaders either strengthen it or ignore it until the consequences become impossible to avoid. Ian and I also talk about the difference between growing and scaling, why enthusiasm can pull leaders into bad deals, how AI can support better preparation without replacing human judgment, and why performance expectations should be clear, collaborative, and human. The big takeaway? Value isn’t created at exit. It’s exposed. Whether you ever plan to sell your business or not, the question is worth asking: Would someone want to buy what you’re building? And maybe more important: Would your people want to keep building it with you? In this conversation, we explore: * Why many businesses are harder to sell than their owners realize * Why buyers pay attention to culture, morale, and engagement * The difference between growth and scale * Why founders should look at their business through a buyer’s eyes * How enthusiasm can lead to bad deals * Why AI can support better preparation, but not replace human judgment * The importance of clear performance expectations * Why leaders need to understand the story behind the numbers * How human-centric leadership affects long-term business value Featured Quote Value isn’t created at exit. It’s exposed. Closing Thought This conversation is especially relevant for entrepreneurs, credit union leaders, healthcare leaders, family businesses, and anyone trying to scale without losing the human connection that made the organization work in the first place. Because the human side of business is not separate from value. It may be the value. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit keepithumannetwork.substack.com

  4. Apr 6

    Redefining what guest-first actually means in hospitality - Anthony Valletta of BarTaco

    Video Link: Summary In this interview, host Jim Bouchard speaks with Anthony Valletta, President of Bartaco, about the evolving landscape of hospitality and what it truly means to be “guest-first.” Valletta shares his extensive background in the industry, from working in fine dining to leading a high-growth brand like Bartaco. The conversation centers on the philosophy that hospitality is an emotional experience rather than a transactional one. Valletta argues that the traditional “customer is always right” mentality is outdated and often detrimental. Instead, he advocates for a culture where the team comes first. By empowering and caring for employees, leaders ensure that those employees, in turn, provide an authentic and elevated experience for guests. He describes Bartaco’s unique model, which blends high-end service standards with a tech-enabled, casual environment, allowing guests to control their own pace while staff focus on high-impact human interactions. A significant portion of the discussion is dedicated to leadership and talent development. Valletta emphasizes the importance of vulnerability in leadership and the need to “hire for heart” rather than just skill sets. He discusses the challenge of maintaining brand standards while allowing for individual personality and the necessity of constant innovation to stay relevant. The interview concludes with Valletta highlighting the “hospitality of things”—the idea that every detail, from the music to the lighting, contributes to the human connection that defines great service. Transcript Jim Bouchard: Welcome to the show! I am so excited to have Anthony Valletta here. Anthony is the President of Bartaco, and we’re going to talk about something that is near and dear to my heart: hospitality. But we’re looking at it from a different angle today. Anthony, welcome! [01:10] Anthony Valletta: Thanks for having me, Jim. It’s great to be here. I’ve been looking forward to this. [01:18] Jim Bouchard: So, Anthony, let’s jump right in. We talk a lot about “Keep It Human.” In your industry, it seems like that should be the default, but often it isn’t. How do you define “guest-first” in a way that actually feels human? [01:45] Anthony Valletta: It’s a great question. For us, “guest-first” starts with our people. I know that sounds like a contradiction, but if our team isn’t happy, if they don’t feel supported, they can’t give that true, authentic hospitality to the guest. It becomes a transaction instead of an interaction. [02:15] Jim Bouchard: I love that distinction. Interaction over transaction. How do you train for that? [02:45] Anthony Valletta: You don’t necessarily train for heart; you hire for it. We look for people who genuinely enjoy making others feel good. Then, we provide them with the tools and the autonomy to do that. We moved away from the “scripted” service model. We want our team to be themselves. [03:30] Jim Bouchard: That takes a lot of trust from a leadership perspective. [04:10] Anthony Valletta: It does. But when you give people the freedom to be human, they surprise you. At Bartaco, we use technology to handle the “order-taking” parts—the transactional stuff—so our team can focus on the “hospitality” parts. Checking in, sharing a laugh, making sure the vibe is right. [05:20] Jim Bouchard: Talk more about that “vibe.” You mentioned the “hospitality of things.” [08:45] Anthony Valletta: Hospitality isn’t just the person bringing you a taco. It’s the lighting, the music, the way the chair feels. It’s creating an environment where a guest can escape. If the music is too loud or the lighting is harsh, it breaks that human connection. Everything is intentional. [09:30] Jim Bouchard: You’ve had a long career in fine dining before this. What’s the biggest lesson you brought from the white-tablecloth world to a more casual brand like Bartaco? [15:20] Anthony Valletta: Excellence is universal. Whether you’re serving a $200 tasting menu or a $4 taco, the guest deserves to feel seen. The attention to detail—the way you pour a glass of water, the way you anticipate a need before they ask—that’s what makes it feel human. [16:45] Jim Bouchard: What’s the biggest challenge you see for leaders today who want to keep that human element alive? [22:10] Anthony Valletta: Vulnerability. Leaders often think they have to be perfect, especially in a fast-paced environment. But if I can’t admit when I’m wrong or show my team that I’m learning too, they won’t feel safe enough to be vulnerable with our guests. [23:45] Jim Bouchard: Anthony, this has been fantastic. Where can people find out more about you and Bartaco? [32:15] Anthony Valletta: You can visit us at bartaco.com or find me on LinkedIn. We’re always looking for people who want to lead with heart. [32:45] Jim Bouchard: Thank you, Anthony. And thank you all for listening. Keep it human! [33:50] Intersection with Keep It Human & IEG Themes * Human-Centric Leadership: Valletta’s insistence that “guest-first starts with the team” perfectly aligns with the Keep It Human philosophy that organizational health begins with the well-being and empowerment of its people. * Trust and Autonomy: By moving away from scripts and allowing employees to “be themselves,” Bartaco practices the IEG theme of Empowered Excellence, where trust is the foundation of high performance. * Technology as an Enabler, Not a Replacement: The use of technology to handle transactions so humans can focus on interactions is a core Keep It Human tenet—using tools to enhance, rather than replace, the human experience. * Vulnerability in Leadership: Valletta’s point about leaders needing to be vulnerable to create a safe environment is a cornerstone of Authentic Leadership. Useful Quotes * “Hospitality is an emotional experience, not a transaction.” [02:15] * “You don’t train for heart; you hire for it.” [03:30] * “If the team doesn’t feel supported, they can’t give true, authentic hospitality to the guest.” [01:45] * “Excellence is universal. Whether it’s a $200 meal or a $4 taco, the guest deserves to feel seen.” [16:45] * “If I can’t admit when I’m wrong... my team won’t feel safe enough to be vulnerable with our guests.” [23:45] This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit keepithumannetwork.substack.com

  5. Feb 9

    Danny Snow on AI, Automation, and the Human Side of Customer Service

    Danny Snow on AI, Automation, and the Human Side of Customer Service What happens when customer service goes fully automated—and no one’s left to help when things go wrong? In this episode of the Keep It Human Podcast, Jim Bouchard is joined by Danny Snow, customer experience leader and co-author of Lessons From The Mouse, to explore why customers are growing frustrated with AI-only customer service systems—and what leaders are missing. AI promises speed and efficiency. But when an issue goes off-script, automation often turns a five-minute human conversation into days of back-and-forth. This conversation focuses on why human contact still matters, especially when technology hits its limits. 🎧 In This Episode, We Discuss: Why customers are burning out on fully automated customer service How AI systems create delays when issues hit a snag The hidden cost of time lag in asynchronous support models Why removing human contact erodes trust and loyalty How AI should be used to support human reps, not replace them Danny also shares insights rooted in the customer experience philosophy he developed with his father, Dennis Snow, emphasizing that great service isn’t just efficient—it’s human. ▶️ Related Video from Danny Snow Danny expands on these ideas in his own video on AI and customer service: 👉 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phi9TO9T5rE) 📝 Related Reading 👉 Why AI-Only Customer Service Is Wearing People Out—and What Leaders Are Missing This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit keepithumannetwork.substack.com

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The Keep It Human® Podcast is where conversations turn into community. Join me — Jim Bouchard, leadership activist and founder of Keep It Human® — as we explore how to lead with authenticity in an AI-driven world. Each episode comes with a companion Substack article to help you dive deeper, reflect, and join the conversation about how we can inspire, empower, and guide one another. keepithumannetwork.substack.com