The ITSPmagazine Podcast

Founded in 2015, ITSPmagazine began as a vision for a publication positioned at the critical intersection of technology, cybersecurity, and society. What started as a written publication has evolved into a comprehensive repository for all their content—podcasts, articles, event coverage, interviews, videos, panels, and everything they create. This is where Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli talk about cybersecurity, technology, society, music, storytelling, branding, conference coverage, and whatever else catches their attention. Over a decade of conversations exploring how these worlds collide, influence each other, and shape the human experience. This is where you'll find it all.

  1. 1d ago

    Who Decides You Are a Real Musician | A Music Evolves Conversation with Josh Gilliland, Founder of JG BeatsLab

    Show NotesThe argument over AI in music presents itself as a fight about authenticity. Josh Gilliland reads it as a fight about who holds the gate. The Founder of JG BeatsLab teaches musicians how to fold generative tools into real workflows, and he watches the platforms assemble a definition of legitimacy that has little to do with how a song actually gets made. That definition, as Gilliland describes it, rests on whether an artist tours, sells merchandise, and maintains a social presence. Measured against it, he does not qualify. He plays every instrument on his own band's records, uses no AI on them at all, does not tour because the project is one person, and has no interest in selling shirts. A standard that disqualifies a musician for working alone is not measuring music. It is measuring scale, and scale is what labels have. The disclosure requirements arriving at the distribution layer tell the same story. Gilliland points to DistroKid now asking artists to declare AI involvement in lyrics and composition while explicitly waving it through for mixing and mastering. The carve-out says something the policy does not. Some jobs are worth protecting and some are not, and engineers have been quietly sorted into the second category. Music has staged this argument before. Player pianos, drum machines, the 808, the synthesizer, sampling. Each arrived as proof that music was ending, and each time the boundary between real and artificial turned out to sit precisely where the person drawing it had stopped. Gilliland is blunt about what that makes the boundary: arbitrary, and drawn by whoever benefits from where it lands. None of which is a defense of the flood. Bot farms and mass uploads are manipulation rather than art, and he says so plainly. What holds his attention is the musician who spends months pushing raw sketches through generative tools and rebuilding the results by hand in a DAW, arriving somewhere neither the person nor the machine would have reached alone. He owns music royalties that are already training these systems and loses no sleep over it, on the logic that what a model returns is the past, and the work worth doing is the next thing. The question underneath this episode is not whether AI belongs in music. It is whether the people writing the rules are protecting the art or their position in it. HostSean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine, Studio C60, and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast & Music Evolves Podcast | Website: [https://www.seanmartin.com/\](https://www.seanmartin.com/) Guest(s)Josh Gilliland, Founder of JG BeatsLab | On LinkedIn: [https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuagilliland/\](https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuagilliland/) ResourcesJG BeatsLab | [https://www.jgbeatslab.com/\](https://www.jgbeatslab.com/) AI Music Revolution Podcast | [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ai-music-revolution/id1869714097\](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ai-music-revolution/id1869714097) Spotify Strengthens AI Protections | [https://newsroom.spotify.com/2025-09-25/spotify-strengthens-ai-protections/\](https://newsroom.spotify.com/2025-09-25/spotify-strengthens-ai-protections/) Spotify Will Label AI Persona Profiles | [https://techcrunch.com/2026/08/11/spotify-will-label-ai-persona-profiles-and-exclude-their-music-from-recommendations/\](https://techcrunch.com/2026/08/11/spotify-will-label-ai-persona-profiles-and-exclude-their-music-from-recommendations/) The NAMM Show | [https://www.namm.org/\](https://www.namm.org/) The NAMM Show 2025 | Anaheim Convention Center * Southern California -- Follow our coverage: [https://www.itspmagazine.com/the-namm-show-2025-namm-music-conference-music-technology-event-coverage-anaheim-california\](https://www.itspmagazine.com/the-namm-show-2025-namm-music-conference-music-technology-event-coverage-anaheim-california) Music Evolves Podcast | [https://www.seanmartin.com/podcasts#musicevolves\](https://www.seanmartin.com/podcasts#musicevolves) Music Evolves: Sonic Frontiers Newsletter | [https://re4.ms/sfn\](https://re4.ms/sfn) Keywordsjosh gilliland, jg beatslab, sean martin, ai music, spotify artist verification, distrokid ai disclosure, independent musicians, suno, music gatekeeping, ai music education, music royalties, streaming economics, drum programming, music, creativity, art, artist, musician, music evolves, music podcast, music and technology podcast More From Sean MartinMore from Music Evolves: [https://www.seanmartin.com/music-evolves-podcast\](https://www.seanmartin.com/music-evolves-podcast) Music Evolves on YouTube: [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllTRJ5du7hFDXjiugu-uNPtW\](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllTRJ5du7hFDXjiugu-uNPtW) Music Evolves: Sonic Frontiers Newsletter | [https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/7290890771828719616/\](https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/7290890771828719616/) Line of Sight Newsletter | [https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/7400591548452667392/\](https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/7400591548452667392/) ITSPmagazine YouTube Channel: [https://www.youtube.com/@itspmagazine\](https://www.youtube.com/@itspmagazine) Be sure to share and subscribe!

    Who Decides You Are a Real Musician | A Music Evolves Conversation with Josh Gilliland, Founder of JG BeatsLab
  2. 4d ago

    When Everyone Can Build Their Own Tools, What Holds Security Together? | A Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast Conversation with John Linford, Security Portfolio Director of The Open Group

    ⬥EPISODE NOTES⬥ Something structural is shifting in how security work gets done. When anyone on a team can stand up a working tool in an afternoon, the constraint stops being capability and starts being coherence. John Linford, Security Portfolio Director at The Open Group, spends his time on exactly that problem, running the Security Forum, the Open Trusted Technology Forum, and the Assured Dependability Work Group, where practitioners from organizations of wildly different sizes argue their way toward standards that are supposed to survive contact with reality. His framing of the tool question is blunt and worth stealing. When a team says it can build the thing, the first response is to ask what decision the thing informs. A dashboard showing numbers nobody was looking at before is not a security improvement, it is a new source of numbers. Standards, in this reading, are not compliance artifacts to be shown to an auditor. They are the thing that tells an organization which part of the problem a tool is supposed to solve, and how it fits alongside everything else already in place. The corollary matters just as much: when the tools themselves conform to a standard, vendors compete on the value they actually deliver rather than on the cost of switching away from them. Linford takes the same argument up a level to architecture. Security architecture only works when it sits inside a broader enterprise and IT architecture rather than beside it, and that requires a CISO with genuine authority and a seat at the executive table. Where that authority is thin, The Open Group's Security Forum has leaned on the idea of security champions, people embedded across teams who do not need deep security skills but do need to know when to pull a specialist into the room. Getting that right moves the security conversation into the design phase, which is the only place it is cheap. The scaling question gets an honest answer. The Open Group operates on one vote per member organization, which means a three-person shop carries the same weight in a final standard as Microsoft or RTX. That structure forces the standards to be implementable by organizations that have no security architect at all, and it shows up in deliberate choices like defining roles rather than job titles, because in a small company one person wears eight of them. Then there is zero trust, which Linford describes with a line that circulates as a running joke inside the Security Forum: it is just what cybersecurity should have been from the beginning. The Zero Trust Commandments trace directly back to the Jericho Forum's deperimeterization work from the 1990s, and they fit on a single page on purpose. Secure assets according to their value and the damage their compromise would cause, and the spending priorities sort themselves out. The alternative, as he puts it, is announcing you will implement all five hundred-odd controls in NIST 800-53 and wishing yourself luck. His closing point is the one most likely to sting. Security practitioners are fluent in security and frequently illiterate in business. Telling a board that twenty controls are required for conformance with the EU Cyber Resilience Act invites one question about cost. Telling them the same work opens a market and removes a year of analysis before expansion is a different conversation entirely, about the same twenty controls. ⬥GUEST⬥ John Linford, Security Portfolio Director at The Open Group | On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johndouglaslinford/ ⬥HOST⬥ Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine, Studio C60, and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast & Music Evolves Podcast | Website: https://www.seanmartin.com/ ⬥RESOURCES⬥ The Open Group | https://www.opengroup.org/ The Open Group Security Forum | https://www.opengroup.org/forum/security-forum-0 Zero Trust Commandments | https://pubs.opengroup.org/security/zero-trust-commandments/ Zero Trust Architecture at The Open Group | https://www.opengroup.org/forum/security/Zerotrust The TOGAF Standard, 10th Edition | https://www.opengroup.org/togaf Open Trusted Technology Forum | https://www.opengroup.org/forum/trusted-technology-forum The Future of Cybersecurity Newsletter | https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/7108625890296614912/ ⬥ADDITIONAL INFORMATION⬥ 🎧 More Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast episodes | https://www.seanmartin.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcast 📺 Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast on YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllS9aVGdiakVss9u7xgYDKYq 📰 Subscribe to The Future of Cybersecurity Newsletter | https://itspm.ag/future-of-cybersecurity ✉️ Connect with Sean Martin | https://www.seanmartin.com/ ⬥KEYWORDS⬥ john linford, the open group, sean martin, zero trust, security standards, enterprise architecture, togaf, security governance, ciso leadership, security architecture, open standards, security culture, supply chain security, redefining cybersecurity, cybersecurity podcast, redefining cybersecurity podcast

    When Everyone Can Build Their Own Tools, What Holds Security Together? | A Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast Conversation with John Linford, Security Portfolio Director of The Open Group
  3. Sep 2

    Marketing Volume Held Steady. Scrutiny Went Up. | Lens Four by Sean Martin | Read by TAPE9

    ⬥EPISODE NOTES⬥ For a full year, agentic AI was the pitch. This year the conversation shifted to whether it holds up once it is actually running in production, against real work. Vendors came armed with customer-sourced numbers rather than concept demos — hours returned per analyst per week, percentages of alerts dispositioned without human review, agreement rates measured against human analyst judgment. Buyers arrived having spent the months since the previous major conference testing products and weighing what they were told against what they saw. Not one of the four questions that dominated the show is exciting, and not one of them is actually an AI question. Naming an owner before something ships is governance. Showing your work is audit. Knowing where your components came from is supply chain hygiene. Configuring a tool to reach the outcome it was bought for is the oldest plain, unrewarded work there is. AI did not create those problems — it made them impossible to keep deferring. Marketing volume held steady. Scrutiny went up. In this edition of Lens Four: 🔹 Why the easy read on Black Hat USA 2026 — that AI arrived — is a year late, and what moving from pilot to production actually exposed underneath it 🔹 The 4 questions that replaced the whether debate: who is accountable, what is the evidence, where is the data coming from, and is the foundation configured to hold the weight 🔹 How production turned governance into a named, accountable owner assigned before an agent ships, with a documented business justification behind it 🔹 The sharpest reframe of the week: a rogue agent is usually not malfunctioning, it is doing exactly what it was told, relentlessly, until it succeeds 🔹 The Midnight in the War Room session on the gap between people authorized to take risks and people expected to mitigate them, and why burnout rather than obsolescence is the analyst risk to manage 🔹 Why "black box" became unacceptable, and the 2 ways teams are validating: reading the reasoning trail directly, and replaying historical alerts against what human analysts already concluded 🔹 Sovereignty getting repaired in real time, from a geography and compliance word into a control word about who owns the derivative value of an organization's data 🔹 AI's own supply chain, and the 2 capability gaps leaders keep naming: a basic AI inventory, and third-party visibility into which vendor products already have AI embedded in them 🔹 The Vulnerability Research in the Agentic Age keynote on a pipeline producing well over 1,000 potential local privilege escalation findings, and why discovery got cheap while absorption did not 🔹 Post-quantum timelines compressing from 10 to 15 years toward as little as 3, and why crypto-agility belongs in the refresh cycle rather than a standalone initiative 🔹 What buyers were actually shown: roughly 75 percent of 10,000+ daily alerts cleared without primary analyst review, up to 19 minutes returned per analyst per hour at 99.7 percent agreement with human verdicts, and analyst throughput moving from about 10 closed alerts per shift to 50 or 60, all vendor-reported rather than audited 🔹 The 47 AI SOC vendors counted on the floor, roadmaps compressing from 12 to 18 months down to 3 to 6, and why the market got louder exactly as buyers got more specific 🔹 Why token costs that are not falling set a ceiling on adoption pace that governance readiness cannot lift, and what that means for consumption-based pricing 🔹 Why a resurgence of value-added resellers and system integrators is the market pricing a job that has to happen somewhere: which products fit which environments, and how you connect it all Fourth Lens: Proof does not transfer. Different analysis approaches expose different properties, which makes tool efficacy hard to compare in the abstract, and prioritization frameworks are already moving toward environment-specific attributes. A number on a vendor slide came out of someone else's alert mix and someone else's data — it is evidence of something, but it is not evidence about you. So the burden lands partly on the buyer, with a split most people get wrong. The vendor owes the apparatus: a visible chain of reasoning, audit logs, the ability to replay your own history, and hands-on access without a six-month procurement cycle in front of it. The buyer owes the environment and the baseline. Neither side can produce the answer alone, and human on the loop is what that bargain looks like once it is running. If scrutiny only works when you have built something capable of doing the checking, what have you built? ▶ Full article and references: seanmartin.com/lens-four ▶ All Black Hat USA 2026 conversations: ITSPmagazine podcasts playlist ▶ Subscribe to Lens Four: seanmartin.com/lens-four ▶ Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast: redefiningcybersecuritypodcast.com ▶ Music Evolves Podcast: musicevolvespodcast.com ▶ ITSPmagazine: itspmagazine.com ▶ Studio C60: studioc60.com Sean Martin, CISSP is co-founder of ITSPmagazine and Studio C60, host of the Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast and the Music Evolves Podcast, and the author of Lens Four, a weekly column on business, innovation, and messaging at seanmartin.com. Keywords: Black Hat USA 2026, agentic AI, AI SOC, security operations, non-human identity, agent accountability, named accountable owner, rogue agent behavior, AI governance, chain of reasoning, human on the loop, AI supply chain, AI inventory, sovereignty, post-quantum readiness, consumption-based pricing, proof of value, CISO decision making

    Marketing Volume Held Steady. Scrutiny Went Up. | Lens Four by Sean Martin | Read by TAPE9
  4. Sep 2

    Executives Can Now Invite Their Lawyer, Banker, and Dog Walker Into a Verified Circle of Trust | A Brand Spotlight Recorded On Location at Black Hat USA 2026 with Matt Covington and Tracey Moon of BlackCloak | Hosted by Sean Martin

    Matt Covington, Senior Vice President of Product at BlackCloak, says the feature exists because CISOs kept asking the same question. Can you help us manage this influx of deepfake media, whether it arrives by email, video, or voicemail. The requests that follow are familiar. Change the billing information on a vendor. Wire me $5,000 to bail me out of jail. Rather than sitting in line with every communication to judge whether a piece of video or audio is fake, BlackCloak gives people a way to establish the authenticity of the message and the sender. Matt Covington walks through it on camera. A suspicious guest joins a Zoom call under a familiar name, camera off. He opens the app, creates a request, selects the medium, adds context, and submits. Biometrics confirm the device owner. The response comes back with identity confirmed and location attached, and the app keeps an audit trail. The news this week is who can be in the circle. A BlackCloak member can invite as many people as they want to connect as part of their trusted network. Personal lawyer, private banker, childcare, dog walker. Matt Covington describes a message arriving on vacation, claiming to be the dog walker and asking for $5,000 for an emergency vet bill, and confirms that scenario is a real thing that has happened. Tracey Moon, Chief Marketing Officer at BlackCloak, joins for the demo. This is a Brand Spotlight. A Brand Spotlight is a ~15 minute conversation designed to explore the guest, their company, and what makes their approach unique. Learn more: https://www.studioc60.com/creation#spotlight GUESTS Matt Covington, Senior Vice President of Product, BlackCloak On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mecovington/ Tracey Moon, Chief Marketing Officer, BlackCloak On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/traceymoon/ RESOURCES BlackCloak: https://blackcloak.io/ BlackCloak Extends Deepfake Protection to the Executive's Entire Trusted Circle: https://blackcloak.io/news-media/blackcloak-extends-deepfake-protection-to-the-executives-entire-trusted-circle/ BlackCloak Product Overview: https://blackcloak.io/product/ Are you interested in telling your story? ▶︎ Full Length Brand Story: https://www.studioc60.com/content-creation#full ▶︎ Brand Spotlight Story: https://www.studioc60.com/content-creation#spotlight ▶︎ Brand Highlight Story: https://www.studioc60.com/content-creation#highlight KEYWORDS matt covington, tracey moon, blackcloak, sean martin, brand story, brand marketing, marketing podcast, brand spotlight, black hat usa 2026, impersonation protection, circle of trust, deepfake, digital executive protection, identity verification, social engineering, executive protection, wire fraud

    Executives Can Now Invite Their Lawyer, Banker, and Dog Walker Into a Verified Circle of Trust | A Brand Spotlight Recorded On Location at Black Hat USA 2026 with Matt Covington and Tracey Moon of BlackCloak | Hosted by Sean Martin
  5. Sep 2

    Executives Can Check a Country's Risk and a Caller's Identity From the Same BlackCloak App | A Brand Spotlight Recorded On Location at Black Hat USA 2026 with Matt Covington, Senior Vice President of Product at BlackCloak | Hosted by Sean Martin

    Matt Covington, Senior Vice President of Product at BlackCloak, walks through two features recently added to the member application. The first grew out of a question the concierge team fielded often. Members planning family travel to China or Eastern Europe wanted to know what to expect, how to protect their devices, and how to stay safe. That work now sits inside the app as a travel advisory page. A member types in a destination and the advisory breaks risk into the four categories the intel team uses. Physical security, cybersecurity, geopolitical climate, and social climate. A risk score, click to call contact information for US consulates and embassies, and up to the minute incident reports round out the page. The second feature is impersonation protection. Matt Covington describes a voicemail from someone claiming to be Chris Pierson, CEO of BlackCloak, asking for wiring instructions to be changed and $5,000 sent to an individual. Replying to that message to ask whether it is really him produces a yes from whoever is on the other end. Impersonation protection moves the question to a channel the sender did not pick. The member touches a name in the address book, selects the communication channel in question, adds a custom message, and submits. The person being challenged accepts or denies the request through a push notification in the BlackCloak app. The circle of trust reaches past coworkers and immediate family. Matt Covington names a childcare provider, a personal wealth advisor, a private banker, and a key vendor in the supply chain. Members with impersonation protection can create an unlimited number of invitations, and the person invited does not need to be a fully paid up BlackCloak member to respond. Much of the deepfake conversation has centered on Zoom, Teams, and other corporate platforms. Matt Covington argues that attackers are more likely to go after the channel they perceive as unprotected, a personal phone number found online or a social media post that accepts a message. For a security team, the question worth asking is where approval authority for a payment actually sits, and whether the verification step reaches the assistant, the advisor, and the vendor contact too. This is a Brand Spotlight. A Brand Spotlight is a ~15 minute conversation designed to explore the guest, their company, and what makes their approach unique. Learn more: https://www.studioc60.com/creation#spotlight GUEST Matt Covington, Senior Vice President of Product at BlackCloak On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mecovington/ RESOURCES Learn more about BlackCloak: https://blackcloak.io Impersonation Protection with circle of trust announcement: https://blackcloak.io/news-media/blackcloak-extends-deepfake-protection-to-the-executives-entire-trusted-circle/ Member Travel Advisory announcement: https://blackcloak.io/news-media/blackcloak-integrates-real-time-defense-and-intelligence-to-close-the-security-coverage-gap-for-executive-teams/ Are you interested in telling your story? ▶︎ Full Length Brand Story: https://www.studioc60.com/content-creation#full ▶︎ Brand Spotlight Story: https://www.studioc60.com/content-creation#spotlight ▶︎ Brand Highlight Story: https://www.studioc60.com/content-creation#highlight KEYWORDS matt covington, blackcloak, sean martin, brand story, brand marketing, marketing podcast, brand spotlight, black hat usa 2026, digital executive protection, impersonation protection, circle of trust, deepfake, travel advisory, executive travel risk, wire fraud, business email compromise, supply chain risk, concierge cybersecurity, personal cybersecurity

    Executives Can Check a Country's Risk and a Caller's Identity From the Same BlackCloak App | A Brand Spotlight Recorded On Location at Black Hat USA 2026 with Matt Covington, Senior Vice President of Product at BlackCloak | Hosted by Sean Martin
  6. Aug 29

    A Secure and Compliant Business Is the Destination. Steel Patriot Partners Maps Five Routes to It. | A Brand Spotlight Recorded On Location at Black Hat USA 2026 with Michael Parisi, Chief Growth Officer at Steel Patriot Partners | Hosted by Sean Martin

    What a company is trying to reach is rarely a certificate. Michael Parisi, Chief Growth Officer at Steel Patriot Partners, treats the destination as the opening question rather than the closing one, and the firm orders its own priorities to match. Business owners first, engineers second, compliance and security people third. What does a secure and compliant business actually look like? It looks like whatever lets that business do what it set out to do. For one company it means entering a regulated industry it has never served. For another it means proving to itself and to an auditor that it is secure enough to work with a partner that will not move without evidence. The framework follows the objective. Before a framework gets named or a control gets selected, someone has to decide whether the trip is worth taking. Michael Parisi puts more than half of that work in the category of psychology, and describes the most fulfilling part as helping someone understand where they actually stand. He comes at it from several sides of the same decision, having spent about fifteen years with the Big Four, five and a half with a cybersecurity standards organization and certification body, and two in a similar role at an audit and attestation firm. How does a company know which route it is on? Steel Patriot Partners narrowed it to five positions and put three questions in front of them under the name Find Your Path. Growth has tapped out and a new industry looks like the way to keep going. Money is already committed to a direction someone else recommended. The decision is settled and the work needs a specialist. The open question is which partners and auditors to trust. Or the team needs sustained support rather than a project with an end date. What makes the answer usable is that the firm has nothing riding on it. Steel Patriot Partners stays agnostic relative to tools, software, and auditors, which keeps the opening question plain. Who do you like, and what do you already have? Personality and culture then carry weight alongside capability. Knowing the route also means knowing where it narrows, so Michael Parisi and CEO Jason Ford both press on what a client has not considered, then on what to watch out for. Sometimes the useful answer points somewhere else entirely. Find Your Path is not a robot, an LLM, or an AI tool, and the point is to give an organization enough value to lower its guard and talk directly. One of Michael Parisi's favorite outcomes is confirming that a company may not need to do the thing it walked in asking about, and when the work sits outside what Steel Patriot Partners handles, the firm connects them with someone who does. This is a Brand Spotlight. A Brand Spotlight is a ~15 minute conversation designed to explore the guest, their company, and what makes their approach unique. Learn more: https://www.studioc60.com/creation#spotlight GUEST Michael Parisi, Chief Growth Officer, Steel Patriot Partners LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-parisi-4009b2261/ RESOURCES Steel Patriot Partners: https://www.steelpatriotpartners.com Find Your Path, three questions to start: https://www.steelpatriotpartners.com/find-your-path Steel Patriot Partners Insights: https://resources.steelpatriotpartners.com Are you interested in telling your story? ▶︎ Full Length Brand Story: https://www.studioc60.com/content-creation#full ▶︎ Brand Spotlight Story: https://www.studioc60.com/content-creation#spotlight ▶︎ Brand Highlight Story: https://www.studioc60.com/content-creation#highlight KEYWORDS michael parisi, steel patriot partners, sean martin, brand story, brand marketing, marketing podcast, brand spotlight, black hat usa 2026, find your path, secure and compliant business, business enablement, cybersecurity strategy, grc, governance risk and compliance, agnostic advisory, audit readiness, fedramp, cmmc, entering a regulated market, vendor and partner selection

    A Secure and Compliant Business Is the Destination. Steel Patriot Partners Maps Five Routes to It. | A Brand Spotlight Recorded On Location at Black Hat USA 2026 with Michael Parisi, Chief Growth Officer at Steel Patriot Partners | Hosted by Sean Martin
  7. Aug 28

    Six Hours, Five Strangers, and a Song the Machine Could Not Write | A Music Evolves Conversation with Gregoire Gensollen, Producer and Chief Operating Officer of Tucker Tooley Entertainment

    Show Notes The premise sounds like a stunt. Five strangers, one room, six hours, one original song. Meanwhile the show's host sits at a keyboard with a text prompt and half an hour. Grégoire Gensollen, Producer and Chief Operating Officer at Tucker Tooley Entertainment, built that episode of Band of Strangers knowing he could not predict the outcome, which is precisely why he made it. Gensollen comes to this from the traditional side of the business. He grew up in Marseille, trained as an industrial engineer, moved into management consulting, then rerouted through business school at UCLA Anderson into Lionsgate and later FilmNation, where he ran distribution strategy and film finance across a run that included The King's Speech, The Imitation Game, Nebraska, Mud, and Looper. Ten years ago he partnered with Tucker Tooley. What he says he remembers from two decades of that work is not the tooling. It is who was in the room. The origin of Band of Strangers is a documentary called The Unknown Tour, made by two filmmakers who outfitted a bus with a recording studio and drove across the country finding musicians on street corners, in dive bars, and in gospel churches. The pandemic put the idea on hold. When Gensollen and his team picked it up again, they made a decision that would have been unthinkable inside the studio system: skip the networks entirely and release directly on YouTube. Not for reach, but for control of the entire chain, and to protect a show about collaboration from the unscripted television reflex that turns every format into a competition with prize money and manufactured conflict. The constraint that holds it together is the song. Every episode has to produce one, on a clock, or there is no episode. What varies is the entry point. A mariachi band at El Pueblo on Olvera Street laying a first track that hip hop artists in Leimert Park then struggle to find the rhythm inside. Buskers on the Venice boardwalk writing separately. Artists displaced by the Altadena fires building an anthem about rebuilding rather than grieving. Gensollen is candid that the stumbles stay in the cut, because the friction is the story. On AI, he is neither evangelist nor holdout. He describes it as a tool his company will have to use to stay competitive, not against other producers but against creators working alone in their kitchens with the full chain in hand. He also draws a line: optimization, yes. Creative engine, no. His argument is structural rather than sentimental. Prediction models and comparables, the benchmarking method he learned at Lionsgate, tell you where the ceiling is on a category that already exists. A producer's job is to make the thing that does not exist yet. That distinction is the real subject of this conversation. The question is not whether a machine can produce a competent song in thirty minutes. It clearly can. The question is who decides what is worth making, and whether an industry trained on comparables still knows how to recognize the thing it has no comparable for. Host Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine, Studio C60, and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast & Music Evolves Podcast | Website: https://www.seanmartin.com/ Guest Grégoire Gensollen, Producer and Chief Operating Officer at Tucker Tooley Entertainment | On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregoire-gensollen/ Resources Tucker Tooley Entertainment | https://www.tooleyentertainment.com/ Band of Strangers | https://www.bandofstrangers.com/ Band of Strangers, Can AI beat REAL musicians? [Blind Test], the episode discussed in this conversation | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi0nadrsK8Y Band of Strangers: Angelenos from different communities make music together from scratch, Los Angeles Downtown News | https://www.ladowntownnews.com/arts_and_entertainment/band-of-strangers-angelenos-from-different-communities-make-music-together-from-scratch/article_7f9978b0-18c2-4330-b160-b167c10e8856.html Music Evolves: Sonic Frontiers Newsletter | https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/7290890771828719616/ Keywords gregoire gensollen, tucker tooley entertainment, band of strangers, sean martin, ai music, creator economy, youtube original series, music collaboration, songwriting process, unscripted television, film production, generative ai, artist discovery, independent distribution, music, creativity, art, artist, musician, music evolves, music podcast, music and technology podcast

    Six Hours, Five Strangers, and a Song the Machine Could Not Write | A Music Evolves Conversation with Gregoire Gensollen, Producer and Chief Operating Officer of Tucker Tooley Entertainment
  8. Aug 28

    Executives Get Reached Through the People Around Them, and BlackCloak Protects That Whole Circle | A Black Hat USA 2026 Recap with Dr. Chris Pierson, Founder and CEO at BlackCloak | Hosted by Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli

    An attacker who wants to reach an executive often goes through the people around them. Family members, assistants, advisors, and caregivers all carry access and standing, and none of them sit inside the corporate directory. Dr. Chris Pierson, Founder and CEO of BlackCloak, describes digital executive protection as work that comes down to an individual and the circle around that individual. What does BlackCloak actually protect? Corporate executives, boards, the C-suite, and their families, across privacy, personal cybersecurity, home network security, deepfake impersonation, and travel. Dr. Chris Pierson frames impersonation protection and deepfake protection as an answer to someone pretending to be a human being in order to swindle, defraud, or take advantage of a persona. The control point sits with the person rather than the message. What did security teams want to talk about at Black Hat this year? Specifics. Dr. Chris Pierson says the excitement around AI and agentic AI arrived with a demand to dig in and actually talk about it. He recalls standing nearby while BlackCloak SVP of Product Matt Covington explained how the company uses engines, as opposed to the marketing language circulating elsewhere. Two more patterns came through. People want a real relationship with the team behind a product rather than something they plug in and hook up, and Dr. Chris Pierson points to a community at Black Hat that he says has built up considerably over the past four years or so. People also want net new. Version nine of a familiar firewall is becoming a little less exciting, he says, and the sales engineers spent their time on the additive items instead. BlackCloak appears on the 2026 Inc. 5000 for a second consecutive year, and earlier in 2026 it was named to Inc.'s Best Workplaces list in the Security Industry category, also for a second year. Dr. Chris Pierson credits the roughly 150 Cloakers based in the US, the company's own word for its team members, for both. The data matters, the hardware matters, the platform matters, and at the end of it someone clicks, someone allows access, someone does something. That last step is where BlackCloak places its protection. This is a Black Hat USA 2026 Recap. It is a post-event conversation revisiting the week on the ground, putting a spotlight on the guest and their company and pairing it with the editorial reach of ITSPmagazine. Learn more: https://www.studioc60.com/performance/#briefing GUEST Dr. Chris Pierson, Founder and CEO at BlackCloak On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drchristopherpierson/ RESOURCES Black Hat USA 2026 event coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/black-hat-usa-2026-cybersecurity-event-coverage-in-las-vegas Learn more about BlackCloak: https://blackcloak.io Impersonation Protection: https://blackcloak.io/impersonation-protection/ BlackCloak Extends Deepfake Protection to the Executive's Entire Trusted Circle: https://blackcloak.io/news-media/blackcloak-extends-deepfake-protection-to-the-executives-entire-trusted-circle/ BlackCloak Featured on the 2026 Inc. 5000 for Second Consecutive Year: https://blackcloak.io/news-media/blackcloak-featured-on-the-2026-inc-5000-for-second-consecutive-year/ BlackCloak Named to Inc.'s 2026 Best Workplaces List for Second Consecutive Year: https://www.prweb.com/releases/blackcloak-named-to-incs-2026-best-workplaces-list-for-second-consecutive-year-302788730.html Are you interested in telling your story? ▶︎ Full Length Brand Story: https://www.studioc60.com/content-creation#full ▶︎ Brand Spotlight Story: https://www.studioc60.com/content-creation#spotlight ▶︎ Brand Highlight Story: https://www.studioc60.com/content-creation#highlight ▶︎ Get your own Brand Briefing at an upcoming event: https://www.studioc60.com/buy-brand-briefings KEYWORDS Dr. Chris Pierson, BlackCloak, Sean Martin, Marco Ciappelli, recap, brand story, brand marketing, marketing podcast, Black Hat USA 2026, digital executive protection, impersonation protection, deepfake protection, circle of trust, executive threat intelligence, travel advisory, human attack surface, Inc. 5000, Cloakers

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