The Gospel Underground Podcast

Reid S. Monaghan, Jesse Furey

The great prophet Bob Dylan once echoed in a new cultural moment by declaring, "the times they are a changing." Change is rapid, constant, complex and nuanced in the way peoples and cultures are shaped. In our world many ideologies, views of the world, and understandings of reality are pitched and pivoted all around us using various methods of communication and technologies. People are shouting to be heard yet seem more separated than ever. The Gospel Underground seeks to be a dialogue taking place in the borderlands between the church and culture. People who have heard the call of Jesus have a distinct nature and existence in the world. They also need to have a distinct posture among others and the various perspectives held in our world. We hope to contribute to the conversation between people who are far from God, sought out by God and seeking God in various ways. Our hope is to have a posture of humility and service as we engage ideas in an entertaining and thoughtful way.

  1. Aug 5

    The Fall - Part 1

    Show Notes Books Referenced GK Chesterton, Orthodoxy (1908), Chapter 2 (“The Maniac”): “Certain new theologians dispute original sin, which is the only part of Christian theology which can really be proved.” Reinhold Niebuhr Man’s Nature and His Communities (1965) “The doctrine of original sin is the only empirically verifiable doctrine of the Christian faith” Links Referenced Roman Catholic Catechism - "All men are implicated in Adam’s sin, as St. Paul affirms, since sin came into the world through one man and death through sin, so death spread to all men because all men sinned" https://www.vatican.va/content/catechism/en/part_one/section_two/chapter_one/article_1/paragraph_7_the_fall.html Heidelberg Catechism (1563) — Lord’s Day 2–3, Q&A 5–8. Q7: "the depravity of human nature proceeds from the fall and disobedience of our first parents, Adam and Eve, in Paradise; our nature is become so corrupt that we are all conceived and born in sin." https://heritagereformedgr.org/our-beliefs/heidelberg-catechism/lords-day-3/ The Westminster Confession, 1647, Our first parents, being seduced by the subtlety and temptation of Satan, sinned in eating the forbidden fruit… By this sin they fell from their original righteousness and communion with God, and so became dead in sin, and wholly defiled in all the faculties and parts of soul and body...the guilt of this sin was imputed, and the same death in sin and corrupted nature conveyed to all their posterity descending from them by ordinary generation....sin is a transgression of the righteous law of God, bringing guilt, God’s wrath, the curse of the law, and death, with all miseries spiritual, temporal, and eternal. https://www.apuritansmind.com/westminster-standards/chapter-6/ 1689 London Baptist Confession — Chapter 6 Is almost identical to the Westminster Confession. The New City Catechism Q16 (“What is sin?”): "Sin is rejecting or ignoring God in the world he created, rebelling against him by living without reference to him, not being or doing what he requires in his law — resulting in our death and the disintegration of all creation." https://newcitycatechism.com/new-city-catechism/#16 Augustines Hierarchy of Being - Turning our desires and worship to lesser things - A concise summary of Augustine's thought can be found here - Robert Park's lecture on Augustine and Plotinus (October 1, 1998) https://people.bu.edu/wwildman/WeirdWildWeb/courses/wphil/lectures/wphil_theme06.htm Scriptures Referenced Genesis 3; Jeremiah 2:12,13; Romans 3-6

  2. Jul 1

    The Creation of Humanity

    Scripture Referenced Genesis 1:26-28; Genesis 3:15; Psalm 8; 2 Corinthians 4:5; Colossians 1:13 Quotations Ontological or Structural Views of Image of God Augustine (354-430) located the image in the rational soul, finding a trinitarian structure in memory, understanding, and will (De Trinitate, Books IX–XIV). “The mind is the image of God, in that it is capable of Him and can be partaker of Him.” — De Trinitate 14.8.11 (NPNF trans.) Anselm (1033-1109) follows a similar line of thinking, treating the image as the capacity to remember, understand, and love God: “I acknowledge, Lord, and give thanks that you have created in me this your image, so that I may remember you, think of you, love you. But this image is so worn away by vices, so smudged by the smoke of sins, that it cannot do what it was created to do unless you renew and refashion it.” — Proslogion, ch. 1 Thomas Aquinas (1225-1274) grounds the image in intellect and freedom: “Man is said to be made to God’s image, in so far as the image implies an intelligent being endowed with free-will and self-movement.” — Summa Theologiae I-II, prologue “Intellectual creatures alone, properly speaking, are made to God’s image.” — ST I, q. 93, a. 2 Aquinas also distinguishes a threefold image: by nature (all men), by grace (in those justified), by glorification (in the blessed) — ST I, q. 93, a. 4 Functional View of the Image of God Functional - The image of God means to have dominion, that human beings were made to rule and reign as representatives or vice regents of God on the earth. Anthony Hoekema brings together the structural and functional views: The image of God in man must therefore be seen as involving both the structure of man and the functioning of man— Hoekema, Created in God’s Image, 1986 Relationally as central to understanding Image of God Karth Barth (1886-1968) is the key theologian here - he saw "male and female he created them" to indicate relationality as key to understanding the image of God. Summary God created us with certain capacities (intellect, understanding, emotions, will), to do what he created human beings to do (rule and reign and represent God on the earth) in covenantal relationship with God and other people. Other Quotations Cited “The image of God carries with it the right not to be mistreated or harmed.... Regardless of their record or character, all human beings have an irreducible glory and significance to them, because God loves them.... So we must treasure each and every human being as a way of showing due respect for the majesty of their owner and Creator.” — Timothy Keller, Generous Justice “We are not to consider what men merit of themselves but to look upon the image of God in all men, to which we owe all honor and love.” — Institutes IV.1.7

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The great prophet Bob Dylan once echoed in a new cultural moment by declaring, "the times they are a changing." Change is rapid, constant, complex and nuanced in the way peoples and cultures are shaped. In our world many ideologies, views of the world, and understandings of reality are pitched and pivoted all around us using various methods of communication and technologies. People are shouting to be heard yet seem more separated than ever. The Gospel Underground seeks to be a dialogue taking place in the borderlands between the church and culture. People who have heard the call of Jesus have a distinct nature and existence in the world. They also need to have a distinct posture among others and the various perspectives held in our world. We hope to contribute to the conversation between people who are far from God, sought out by God and seeking God in various ways. Our hope is to have a posture of humility and service as we engage ideas in an entertaining and thoughtful way.

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