Kokoda Track

Glenn Azar

An insight into the lessons learnt from people that have trekked the Kokoda Track in PNG. We will interview trek leaders, local PNG villagers and trekkers who have undertaken the arduous 96km jungle trek.

  1. 1d ago

    Farmer Tim's Kokoda Journey

    The Kokoda Track Podcast is back with another inspiring story from the track. This time, we're joined by Tim, a farmer from Victoria who's just completed the grueling 96-kilometer journey. As he shares his experiences, you'll hear about the challenges he faced, the lessons he learned, and the moments that made this journey truly unforgettable. In this episode, Tim opens up about his training leading up to the trek, including the unique way he prepared for the infamous Imita Ridge aka 'Massey Ferguson' hill. He also talks about the importance of aerobic training and how it was his biggest weakness. You'll hear about the incredible bond he formed with the porters and the locals, and how this experience has left a lasting impact on him. As Tim recounts his journey, you'll be transported to the beautiful landscapes of Papua New Guinea and the rugged terrain of the Kokoda Track. He shares stories about the toughest hill on the track, the infamous Imita Ridge, and how he overcame the challenges that came with it. You'll also hear about the unexpected surprises he encountered along the way, including the controversy surrounding trekking poles. If you're planning to tackle the Kokoda Track or have a passion for its history and culture, this episode is a must-listen. Join us as Tim shares his honest and inspiring account of this incredible journey, and discover what makes the Kokoda Track experience so unforgettable. This podcast is brought to you by Adventure Professionals. KOKODA FITNESS PROGRAM OTHER ADVENTURES  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

  2. Jul 3

    Leah's Kokoda Journey

    As the sun rises over the Kokoda Track, a sense of pride and respect fills the air. This week on the Kokoda Track Podcast, we're joined by Leah, an environmental scientist who's just completed the grueling 96-kilometer trek. With a group of diverse individuals, including doctors, farmers, and teenagers, Leah shares her inspiring story of perseverance and camaraderie. Leah's experience on the track was a mix of challenges and triumphs. She talks about the physical and mental demands of the trek, from the steep descents and wet conditions to the emotional moments of reflection and remembrance. With a background in environmental science, Leah was well-prepared for the physical aspects of the trek, but she still found herself questioning her abilities at times. Her training regimen included strength workouts and pack walking, but she admits that she could have done more to prepare herself. One of the highlights of Leah's experience was the sense of community and support among the group members. Despite being the only female in the group, she felt welcomed and included, and she praises the group's dynamic and the friendships that formed along the way. She also shares her thoughts on the importance of training and preparation, emphasizing the need to be realistic about one's abilities and to take the trek seriously. If you're considering tackling the Kokoda Track, or if you're already booked on, Leah's story is a must-listen. She offers valuable advice and insights for those who are still training, and her experiences will resonate with anyone who's ever pushed themselves to the limit. Join us as Leah shares her story and inspires us to take on new challenges with courage and determination.   This podcast is brought to you by Adventure Professionals. KOKODA FITNESS PROGRAM OTHER ADVENTURES  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

  3. Jun 30

    The Three Kokoda's

    Most people think Kokoda is just a trek through the jungles of Papua New Guinea. They’re wrong. After more than 100 crossings of the Kokoda Track, Glenn Azar has come to believe there are actually three different Kokodas that every trekker experiences. The first is the history. The incredible story of the 1942 campaign and the courage of the young Australians and Papua New Guineans who fought and served there. The second is the physical challenge. The relentless climbs, steep descents, humidity and exhaustion that test every person who steps onto the Track. But it’s the third Kokoda that surprises almost everyone. The personal journey. The conversations you have with yourself when the distractions of everyday life disappear. The perspective you gain. The confidence you build. The person you become. Whether you’re planning your first trek or simply fascinated by Kokoda’s enduring legacy, this episode explores why the Track changes people in ways they never expect. In This Episode Why there isn’t just one Kokoda Understanding the historical significance of the Kokoda Campaign Why physical preparation is important—but only part of the journey The unexpected personal transformation that happens on the Track How challenge, purpose and simplicity combine to create lasting change Why no two people ever experience Kokoda in the same way Key Takeaway You may come to Kokoda for the history.You’ll prepare for the physical challenge.But you’ll remember the personal journey. Quote from the Episode “Everyone walks the same Track. But everyone walks a different Kokoda.” Thinking About Walking Kokoda? If Kokoda has been on your bucket list, we’d love to help you experience it the right way. For more than 20 years, Adventure Professionals has been leading Australians across the Kokoda Track with experienced Australian leaders, an exceptional Papua New Guinean team, and a commitment to honouring both the history and the people who call the Track home. Find out more about upcoming treks at www.adventureprofessionals.com.au. Connect with Glenn Follow Glenn Azar for more stories, leadership lessons and adventure inspiration: Building Better Humans Project The Kokoda Track Podcast Adventure Professionals Glenn Azar on social media If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe, leave a review, and share it with someone who has Kokoda on their bucket list. It helps us continue sharing the stories, history and life lessons from one of the world’s most remarkable journeys. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

  4. Jun 27

    What Happens When Kokoda Doesn't Go To Plan? A Conversation with Angela

    What Happens When Kokoda Doesn't Go To Plan? A Conversation with Angela In this episode of The Kokoda Track Podcast, I sit down with Angela to discuss a Kokoda experience that didn't quite go the way she expected. Like many trekkers, Angela arrived on the Track excited, prepared and ready for what she thought would be one of the most rewarding adventures of her life. Instead, she found herself navigating a series of unexpected challenges that tested her physically, mentally and emotionally. Together, we unpack her experience, exploring the lessons she learned about preparation, communication, leadership and the importance of asking the right questions before committing to a trek. Angela speaks openly and honestly about what went wrong, from misunderstandings around food and trek logistics through to concerns about leadership, flexibility and support on the Track. She also shares how her own determination, expectations and preparation played a role in shaping the experience. This isn't an episode about criticising people or organisations. It's about learning. Kokoda is one of the most challenging personal development experiences on earth, and sometimes the greatest lessons come from the things that don't go according to plan. Whether you're considering your first Kokoda trek, preparing for an upcoming crossing, or simply interested in hearing a real and honest account from someone who has walked the Track, Angela's story offers valuable insights that could help you have a better experience yourself. If there's one thing this conversation highlights, it's that preparation goes beyond fitness. Understanding the operator you're travelling with, the leadership you'll be relying on and the expectations on both sides can make all the difference. Join us for a candid conversation about resilience, adaptability and the lessons that can only be learned when things don't go exactly as planned. This podcast is brought to you by Adventure Professionals. KOKODA FITNESS PROGRAM OTHER ADVENTURES  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

  5. Jun 19

    Michael McNab on Trekking Kokoda twice - 22 years apart

    Episode Show Notes This week's episode is a special one for me. I'm joined by my good mate Michael, who has just completed his second crossing of the Kokoda Track with me. What makes this achievement even more impressive is that Michael first crossed Kokoda 22 years ago at the age of 40, and has now returned at 62 years of age to tackle the challenge once again. This time he brought his son along, alongside a group of mates, colleagues, and their sons, creating an experience that spanned generations. Throughout our conversation, we reflect on the lessons Kokoda continues to teach, not just about resilience and perseverance, but about leadership, teamwork, and personal growth. Michael is the owner and leader of a highly successful business employing around 700 people, so I was particularly interested in hearing his thoughts on leadership in the jungle and how those lessons compare to leadership in the corporate world. We discuss the difference between leadership and management, the importance of clear communication, setting expectations, and creating an environment where people can thrive without being overled. We also explore the unique challenge of returning to Kokoda more than two decades later. Michael shares how his mindset, leadership style, and perspective on hardship have evolved over time, and why stepping outside your comfort zone remains one of the most powerful ways to grow, regardless of your age. One of my favourite parts of the conversation centres around the idea that great leaders don't always need to have all the answers. Sometimes leadership is about staying calm under pressure, trusting your team, and allowing others to have their own experiences rather than trying to control every outcome. Whether you're considering your own Kokoda adventure, leading a team, running a business, raising a family, or simply looking for ways to challenge yourself and grow, I think you'll find plenty of value in this conversation. I hope you enjoy this honest and insightful discussion with a man who has spent a lifetime leading people, learning lessons, and continuing to prove that age is no barrier to growth, adventure, and personal development. This podcast is brought to you by Adventure Professionals. KOKODA FITNESS PROGRAM OTHER ADVENTURES  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

  6. Jun 16

    What happens when Leadership doesn't meet the Environment

    What Happens When Leadership Doesn't Meet the Environment? This is one of the most important episodes we've ever recorded on The Kokoda Track Podcast. After receiving numerous messages from listeners, trekkers and trek leaders regarding a recent review posted online, Glenn takes a deep dive into the lessons that can be learned when a Kokoda experience doesn't meet expectations. This episode is not about naming companies, assigning blame or creating controversy. Instead, it's about examining the role leadership plays in shaping every aspect of a Kokoda trek and why leadership is often the difference between a difficult experience and a rewarding one. Drawing on over 100 Kokoda crossings, 25+ years leading expeditions around the world and 17 years in the Australian Army, Glenn explores the critical importance of communication, decision-making, duty of care, risk management and emotional control in remote environments. Whether you're planning your first Kokoda trek, preparing to become a trek leader, or simply interested in leadership under pressure, this episode provides valuable insights into what trekkers should look for, what operators should strive for and how we can all contribute to a stronger and more sustainable future for Kokoda. In This Episode Why Glenn decided to tackle a controversial topic The review that sparked the discussion Leadership versus experience Why communication matters more than most people realise Duty of care in remote environments Managing uncertainty and expectations on the track The concept of being "the calm in the chaos" Why feedback should be welcomed, not feared Lessons every operator can learn from difficult experiences Questions every trekker should ask before booking Kokoda How leadership training impacts safety, culture and overall experience Raising standards across the Kokoda trekking industry Key Message Every challenge on Kokoda gets amplified by poor leadership and minimised by good leadership. Bullet Point Takeaways Kokoda is unpredictable. Strong leadership is what helps people navigate that unpredictability. Weather, injuries, delays and difficult conditions are inevitable on Kokoda. How leaders respond to them matters most. Communication is one of the most important leadership skills on the track. Trekkers don't need perfect conditions, but they do need clear, honest and consistent information. Good leaders don't avoid difficult conversations; they lean into them. Feedback should be viewed as an opportunity to learn and improve, not as a personal attack. Leadership is not about titles; it's about responsibility, decision-making and accountability. Experience alone does not create great leaders. Training, mentorship and development do. Kokoda exposes weaknesses. Any gaps in communication, planning or leadership will quickly become apparent in the jungle. Emotional control is a critical leadership skill. The ability to remain calm under pressure creates confidence in those around you. Duty of care should always be a priority when managing people in remote environments. Leaders must be prepared to make difficult decisions when safety and wellbeing are at stake. Every operator should have systems, processes and contingency plans in place before things go wrong. Trekkers have every right to ask detailed questions before committing to a company. The quality of leadership can have a significant impact on the overall Kokoda experience. A sustainable future for Kokoda relies on operators continually learning, improving and raising standards. The focus should always remain on the history, the local people, the trekkers and the future of the track—not individual personalities or egos. Questions to Ask Before Booking Your Trek Who will be leading my trek? Will there be a second-in-command? What experience and training do they have? How are medical emergencies managed? What happens if someone requires evacuation? How are dietary requirements handled? What food is supplied during the trek? What support is provided to local PNG carriers? What happens if someone struggles physically on the track? Do you provide a structured training plan before departure? How do you handle feedback and complaints? Quote of the Episode "Kokoda doesn't expose your strengths. Kokoda exposes your weaknesses. And nowhere is that more evident than in leadership." Final Thought The goal is not perfection. The goal is continuous improvement. If we genuinely care about Kokoda, its history, its people and its future, then we must be willing to listen, learn and keep raising the standard for everyone who walks the track.   This podcast is brought to you by Adventure Professionals. KOKODA FITNESS PROGRAM OTHER ADVENTURES  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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An insight into the lessons learnt from people that have trekked the Kokoda Track in PNG. We will interview trek leaders, local PNG villagers and trekkers who have undertaken the arduous 96km jungle trek.

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