Main Street Banking: A Podcast for Community Bankers

Barret School of Banking

The Paul W. Barret, Jr. School of Banking is a non-profit independent school created by and governed by a Board of Regents, whose members are executives from banks and other firms involved with the financial services industry.The mission of the School is to provide an adult learning experience for the career-oriented individual in commercial banking or a related financial services industry business.

  1. Sep 2

    Communiversity — What Pendleton Community Bank and WVU Tech Built

    The college in your market is probably one of the largest employers on your commercial list, and most community banks have no relationship with it. T. Ramon Stuart, president of WVU Tech, and Bill Loving at Pendleton Community Bank built one anyway, out of a lunch for three that came to about sixteen dollars. They call it Communiversity — the community is the university, the university is the community. Key Points Start with the payroll: 309 full-time employees at WVU Tech roughly 849 across a year, counting part-time and contract work "Imagine if the majority of your deposits from payroll went into a community bank." Stuart calls colleges "the modern-day factories of town." Most of his own profession dislikes the comparison. He makes it anyway. Why the community bank is the right partner: It can look under the hood. A loan without clean comps still gets made, because the bank knows the borrower and knows the employer. And students who bank locally come back for the first mortgage — the cheers effect, where you go because somebody knows your name. Financial literacy is the way in: Most people learn about money after the mistakes, once credit is damaged and the rate is higher. First-generation students are the clearest case. On the credit card tables that used to line campus walkways — hand someone three thousand dollars who has never had a dollar and call it a free line — "I think that's very predatory." The co-branded card, and what it did: A Tech employee was checking out at a local business when the cashier recognized the card. She was a Tech graduate with an engineering degree working retail, because she had never managed to navigate the job market. They exchanged information. Less than a month later she had an engineering job. What holds it up: "Nobody really wants to talk finances." And inertia is the real competitor — if you open the app and the money is there, you do not go looking for a new bank. What To Do Monday Call the campus and offer to teach a class. Byron: "It's like asking a teacher or a professor, hey, can I come talk to a class? Absolutely, that's one time I don't have to lecture." Stuart's own reaction is puzzlement that this is not already everywhere: "It just fits, it flows." More on the initiative: [CONFIRM URL — wvutech.edu/communiversity] About the Guest T. Ramon Stuart, Ph.D. is president of the West Virginia University Institute of Technology in Beckley, where he has led the campus since January 2023. He is from McDowell County, holds degrees from West Virginia University and a doctorate from Ohio University, and became a college professor at 23. He previously served as president of Clayton State University and provost at Fort Valley State University, both in Georgia.

    Communiversity — What Pendleton Community Bank and WVU Tech Built
  2. Aug 19

    CRA Is Moving Again — What's Actually in the Proposal

    The FDIC and OCC have a CRA proposal out. The Federal Reserve hasn't signed on. Shaun Harms joins the show to separate what's in the text from what's circulating on LinkedIn. Harms is a principal and regional sector leader over the consulting practice at Forvis Mazars, concentrated in compliance and BSA. He's about 20 years out of the graduate school and now sits on the Barret banking faculty. He also runs the quarterly compliance roundtable. His read: this is a threshold rewrite, not a rebuild. The deposit-based assessment area that drove most of the angst in the rescinded rule is gone — it's the ordinary assessment area again. What's left is a tiering change. As Harms describes the proposal, banks under $1 billion fall under the small bank test, banks from $1 to $10 billion get an easier test with no reporting, and banks above $10 billion carry on as they do now. The lending test stays the core of it. The piece he expects to cause real work is the community development side. The proposal would cap the share of a CD activity that can go to administrative and overhead costs at 15%, which means banks need documentation to prove they're under it. He calls that the politically charged part of the rule and the one thing he'd flag as genuinely new effort. Everything else on the CD test, he thinks, gets less subjective — more examples, tighter parameters, easier to support a qualification. Two things he pushes back on. First, "majority of your lending" has never meant a 50/50 ratio. He walks through Delta banks running 40% in-area ratios and examining out satisfactory, because the loan demand simply wasn't there and the data showed it. Second, the argument that relief will pull community banks out of their communities. Banks don't sponsor the Little League team for the credit; they take the credit because they were going to sponsor it anyway. Where he's honest about not knowing: what the Fed does. He'd spoken with an FDIC member the day before recording, and the answer there was the same — everyone's waiting. His advice to banks in the meantime is status quo. Nothing has changed yet, and the last time two agencies moved without the third, the industry got an unequal playing field and a do-over.

    CRA Is Moving Again — What's Actually in the Proposal

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The Paul W. Barret, Jr. School of Banking is a non-profit independent school created by and governed by a Board of Regents, whose members are executives from banks and other firms involved with the financial services industry.The mission of the School is to provide an adult learning experience for the career-oriented individual in commercial banking or a related financial services industry business.

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