The MAKE IT Podcast

Chris Barkley & Nicholas Buggs
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MAKE IT is the film podcast that provides a behind-the-scenes look at the filmmaking process. We dive into indie gems, massive blockbusters, cinema history, and everything in between. If you love movies and want more than polite chit-chat, this is your spot. Stay Inspired, Chris + Nick

  1. 5d ago

    444 - Oscar Boyson on Directing Our Hero, Balthazar, Working with The Neistat Brothers, Empathy Machines vs. Validation Machines, and Failing in Public

    This episode is brought to you by Anthropic. Claude is the AI for minds that don’t stop at good enough—it's the collaborator that actually understands your entire workflow and thinks WITH you, not for you. Ready to tackle bigger problems? Sign up for Claude Pro when you use our link – www.claude.ai/makeit This episode is brought to you by our e-book Mastering Film Marketing. Get your copy today at https://themakeitpodcast.com/products/mastering-film-marketing. Use the Discount code: NASHFILM20 for 20% off EVERYTHING at themakeitpodcast.com Hello, Hello!  In this episode, Chris & Papa Bear sit down with filmmaker Oscar Boyson to discuss his directorial debut, Our Hero, Balthazar, a provocative and critically talked-about indie film that has been called the most controversial movie of the year. Oscar shares how his unconventional path — from competitive freestyle skier in Maine to Craigslist hire at the Neistat Brothers' studio — shaped him into the filmmaker he is today. The conversation spans filmmaking craft, the dangers of AI dependency, the power of perseverance over ideas, and what it truly means to get an independent film in front of audiences. We also talk about: The thematic parallels between Our Hero, Balthazar, and the 1995 indie classic Kids, including how both films straddle the line between being cautionary tales for parents and romanticized adventures for younger viewersThe growing role of AI tools like ChatGPT in everyday decision-making, and whether over-reliance on AI is creating a generation that can no longer think or fail independently — including the concept of "Gellman Amnesia" as a lens for understanding AI's credibility problemThe social media "validation machine" phenomenon, how algorithms reinforce existing beliefs and behaviors, and what that means for youth culture, mental health, and even real-world violenceThe importance of perseverance over ideas in the creative process, drawing on Casey Neistat's famous motto — "Ideas are common, perseverance is rare" — and how Oscar applied that philosophy to his own career and filmmaking journeyThe practical and ethical considerations of using firearms and blank-firing weapons on an indie film set in the post-Rust era, including the critical role of a professional armorer and the creative reasoning behind using blanks for actor authenticity People, Places, Products, and Websites Mentioned: People Oscar Boyson Casey Neistat Van Neistat Ricky Camilleri Nate DeYoung Josh & Benny Safdie Greta Gerwig Noah Baumbach Tom Sachs Frank Gehry Asa Butterfield Jaeden Martell Stephen Phelps Christopher Messina Lena Dunham Sam Lisenco Harmony Korine Rosario Dawson Chloë Sevigny Roger Ebert Gene Siskel Oscar Hammerstein II Oscar Micheaux Oscar Isaac Oscar Levant Dick Gregory MrBeast Jordan Gallant (composer) Spike Lee Spike Jonze David Fincher Gaspar Noé Andrew Tate Big Mike (Oscar’s father) Elise (Oscar’s sister) Films Our Hero, Balthazar Kids (1995) Frances Ha Good Time Heaven Knows What Adolescence The Odyssey Boogie Nights Trainspotting Taxi Driver Straw Dogs (1971) Jour de fête The Last Temptation of Christ Irréversible Ex Machina A Most Violent Year Lady Be Good (1941) State Fair (1945) TV Shows The Neistat Brothers Platforms, Websites & Tools ChatGPT / OpenAI Craigslist Vimeo The Wayback Machine Digital Cinema Package (DCP) Art House Convergence Places Williams Center Nashville, Tennessee Maryland Lower Antioch / Woodbine — Nashville neighborhoods Maine New York City North Texas Hawaii Tribeca Festival Nashville Film Festival Belcourt Theatre Regal Opry Mills Products & Brands Tesla Supercharger Tesla app Canon EOS 5D Mark II Chick-fil-A Concepts & References Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect Parasocial relationships The Covenant School shooting Nineteen Eighty-Four Stoneman Douglas / Parkland Four-walling “Ideas are common, perseverance is rare” — Casey Neistat motto “Movies are empathy machines” — Roger Ebert We are humbled to have a community of creatives who care deeply about our work. And your support makes our work possible. Every subscriber, rating, and review matters.  So, if you like what we're doing, please consider subscribing, rating, or giving us a review. Cheers, and best of luck on your filmmaking journey. #MAKEIT www.themakeitpodcast.store/shop/support Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

    444 - Oscar Boyson on Directing Our Hero, Balthazar, Working with The Neistat Brothers, Empathy Machines vs. Validation Machines, and Failing in Public

  2. Aug 19

    Mistakes In The Making - The Creative Pivot That Made Barbie a Billion-Dollar Film

    Hello, Hello! In this episode, Kevin Goetz, Hollywood's leading audience research expert and founder of Screen Engine, shares one of his most humbling professional mistakes — advising Mattel's entertainment team to walk away from the Barbie movie project before it became a global cultural phenomenon. Kevin reflects on how he misread early research data that showed limited audience interest in a Barbie film, and how a visionary filmmaker, a bold creative pivot, and a brilliant marketing strategy transformed a seemingly doomed IP into one of the highest-grossing films in history. This conversation is a masterclass in intellectual humility, the limits of data, and the power of creative conviction. We also talk about: How Kevin's proprietary "capability testing technique" works — measuring awareness, interest, intensity, and format preference — and why even well-executed research has its limits when creative transformation hasn't yet occurredThe behind-the-scenes story of how Greta Gerwig pitched her vision for Barbie in a New York brownstone, describing the film as existing "somewhere between a stiletto and a Birkenstock," and how that single creative framing changed everythingWhy two previous Barbie film attempts — one with Anne Hathaway and one with Amy Schumer — never made it to production, and what pattern Kevin saw that made him skeptical a third attempt would succeedHow Barbie's marketing team turned the color pink into a full visual language and cultural movement, driving audiences to theaters dressed in Pepto-Bismol pink and making the film a genuine zeitgeist momentHow this pivotal mistake reshaped Kevin's approach to advising clients, leading him to offer a new kind of hope to filmmakers and studios working with IP or projects that appear to have limited audience potential on paper People, Places, Products, and Websites Mentioned: People Kevin Goetz Robbie Brenner  Margot Robbie Tom Ackerley  Greta Gerwig Noah Baumbach Ryan Gosling America Ferrera Issa Rae Anne Hathaway Amy Schumer Companies & Organizations Screen Engine/ASI Mattel Simon & Schuster  Films & Franchises Barbie (2023) Dallas Buyers Club Fast & Furious franchise List of Barbie films  Books Audienceology How to Score in Hollywood Podcasts Don't Kill the Messenger Mattel IP Referenced Barbie  Hot Wheels Websites & Social Media KevinGoetz360.com We are humbled to have a community of creatives who care deeply about our work. And your support makes our work possible. Every subscriber, rating, and review matters.  So, if you like what we're doing, please consider subscribing, rating, or giving us a review. Cheers, and best of luck on your filmmaking journey. #MAKEIT All Links: https://themakeitpodcast.store Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

    Mistakes In The Making - The Creative Pivot That Made Barbie a Billion-Dollar Film

  3. Aug 18

    SUMMARIES - Nathaniel Nuon's Unconventional Philosophy on Filmmaking Tech (The Uber Analogy and the Viagra Principle)

    Hello, Hello! In this episode, AI Hosts Alex Ivey and Allison Inverness dive deep into the extraordinary life and career of Nathaniel Nuon, a Cambodian refugee-turned Emmy-winning filmmaker who transformed personal and financial limitations into groundbreaking creative work. They explore how a childhood spent watching a broken, silent television set trained Nathaniel's brain to become a master storyteller, and how that same constraint-driven mindset led him to make an Emmy-winning short film about one of history's most overlooked genocides. From designing a feature film specifically for visually impaired audiences to using a cheap VR gaming puck to replicate Hollywood-grade camera tracking, Nathaniel's story is a masterclass in turning obstacles into innovation. We also talk about: How Nathaniel's Cambodian refugee background and his family's adoption of American names shaped his identity and creative driveThe psychological science behind why cognitive constraints — like missing audio — can actually hardwire the brain to become a more powerful problem-solving storytellerThe concept of inclusive design in filmmaking and how designing for marginalized audiences (such as the visually impaired) can unintentionally produce a richer, more atmospheric experience for all audiencesThe culture and output of Full Sail University as a 24/7 creative incubator, and how its high-pressure environment produced 140 graduates who worked on Oscar-nominated films in a single yearA forward-looking philosophical question about the future of filmmaking: as AI, LED walls, and game engines make visual perfection cheap and ubiquitous, will audiences eventually crave the imperfection of practical, physical effects just to feel something authentically human? People, Places, Products, and References Mentioned: People Nathaniel Nuon Jordan Ladd  Valerie Jane Parker  Films & Projects Residue  The Voices  Shows Referenced Mister Ed John Wick Marvel Cinematic Universe Organizations & Companies Nuon Films 3rd Realm Creations Full Sail University Technology & Products HTC Vive Tracker LED walls / virtual production RED ARRI Alexa DSLR cameras Viagra (sildenafil) Uber Historical Events & Concepts *Operation Menu Khmer Rouge Audio description Parallax *This was actually a US Air Force operation, not a CIA operation — Strategic Air Command B-52 strikes authorized by Nixon and Kissinger (1969–70), kept secret from Congress. The CIA did run separate covert programs in Cambodia, including training Cambodian irregulars, which is the premise Residue actually dramatizes. We are humbled to have a community of creatives who care deeply about our work. And your support makes our work possible. Every subscriber, rating, and review matters.  So, if you like what we're doing, please consider subscribing, rating, or giving us a review. Cheers, and best of luck on your filmmaking journey. #MAKEIT Subscribe: https://themakeitpodcast.store/shop/support Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

    SUMMARIES - Nathaniel Nuon's Unconventional Philosophy on Filmmaking Tech (The Uber Analogy and the Viagra Principle)

  4. Aug 12

    443 - X-Men ’97 Cast - Rogue, Morph & Nightcrawler Walk Into a Podcast: The Voice Acting Craft Behind X-Men '97

    This episode is brought to you by Anthropic. Claude is the AI for minds that don’t stop at good enough—it's the collaborator that actually understands your entire workflow and thinks WITH you, not for you. Ready to tackle bigger problems? Sign up for Claude Pro when you use our link – www.claude.ai/makeit This episode is brought to you by our e-book Mastering Film Marketing. Get your copy today at https://themakeitpodcast.com/products/mastering-film-marketing. Use the Discount code: NASHFILM20 for 20% off EVERYTHING at themakeitpodcast.com Hello, Hello!  In this episode, we sit down with three legendary voice actors from the animated series X-Men '97 — Lenore Zann (Rogue), JP Karliak (Morph), and Adrian Hough (Nightcrawler) — to discuss Season 2 of the hit Disney+ show, the craft of voice acting, and the personal journeys that have shaped each of their careers. The trio shares candid reflections on preserving character continuity across decades, the challenges facing working voice actors in an AI-driven industry, and how their art intersects with social justice, environmental advocacy, and political engagement. From cheat day meals to what it truly means to "MAKE IT," this conversation is as heartfelt as it is illuminating. We also talk about: The origins of Rogue's iconic catchphrase "sugar" and how it became part of Lenore Zann's everyday speech, blurring the line between character and performerThe nostalgia for the 1990s circulating on social media, and why JP Karliak believes humans were never biologically designed to process the volume of information we consume today via the internetThe very real threat of AI voice cloning in the animation industry, including Adrian Hough's discovery of unauthorized voice copies of his characters Nightcrawler and Haytham Kenway, and what that means for workhorse voice actorsThe role the COVID-19 pandemic played in reviving interest in X-Men: The Animated Series on Disney+, and how that surge in viewership likely led directly to the creation of X-Men '97Each guest's deep personal commitment to causes beyond entertainment, including environmental advocacy for old-growth forests (Adrian), LGBTQIA+ voice actor support and nonpartisan voter engagement (JP), and social/political justice work rooted in Lenore's 12-year career as a Canadian politician People, Places, Products, and Websites Mentioned: X-Men '97  X-Men: The Animated Series  Disney+ Revival  Peacock Audible / Amazon  Star Wars: Visions  My Life with the Walter Boys  Marvel Mash-Up  Bob Trevino Likes It Our Hero Balthazar Holy Days Breaker Morant  Mephisto  The Ruling Class The Chant of Jimmie Blacksmith  Picnic at Hanging Rock My Brilliant Career Storm Hawks  The Boss Baby CoComelon Yo Gabba Gabba! Bluey The Joy Luck Club The Aussie Six People Lenore Zann JP Karliak Adrian Hough Tracie Laymon  Ted Welch Oscar Boyson  Nat Boltt  Miriam Margolyes  Jacki Weaver  Judy Davis Sam Neill  Edward Woodward Jack Thompson Bryan Brown Peter O'Toole Anthony Hopkins / Hannibal Lecter Ian McKellen Patrick Stewart Tom Kenny / SpongeBob Chris Rock Ella Fitzgerald Marilyn Monroe Neil Gaiman / The Graveyard Book David Letterman / Jennifer Aniston Characters X-Force X-Factor Polaris Jubilee / Sunspot Graydon Creed Carol Danvers / Ms. Marvel Mystique / Destiny Bishop Gambit / Remy LeBeau Poison Ivy Haytham Kenway Organizations, Tools & Books Queer Box Nerds Vote Nashville Film Festival Postly Canva Riverside A Rogue's Tale  Lilith Fair MTV Video Music Awards Cocoanut Grove  Places Vancouver Island Calgary London, UK Montreal Paris New York / Off-Broadway Wisconsin Hollywood Social Media Adrian Hough JP Karliak @queerboxacademy nerdsvote.com / @nerdsvote @LenoreZann (Instagram) / @ZannLenore (X) We are humbled to have a community of creatives who care deeply about our work. And your support makes our work possible. Every subscriber, rating, and review matters.  So, if you like what we're doing, please consider subscribing, rating, or giving us a review. Cheers, and best of luck on your filmmaking journey. #MAKEIT www.themakeitpodcast.store/shop/support Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

    443 - X-Men ’97 Cast - Rogue, Morph & Nightcrawler Walk Into a Podcast: The Voice Acting Craft Behind X-Men '97

  5. Aug 7

    442 - Illuminai Studios Founder Jesse Weglein on Being Laid Off at Pixar, Why AI Is the Brush, Not the Artist, and Animation's Next Frontier

    This episode is brought to you by our e-book Mastering Film Marketing. Get your copy today at https://themakeitpodcast.com/products/mastering-film-marketing. Use the Discount code: NASHFILM20 for 20% off EVERYTHING at themakeitpodcast.com Hello, Hello!  In this episode, Chris, Nick, and Producer Papa Bear sit down with Jesse Weglein — 15 years at Pixar, now founder of Illuminai Studios — joining live from the foot of Mount Fuji. Jesse worked on Up, Toy Story 3, and Toy Story 4 before a mass layoff ended that run and pushed him into building his own studio. He's using AI as a tool, not a replacement, to make original animated films for audiences the industry keeps overlooking — including his short film Roar, which Whoopi Goldberg picked for the Tribeca Film Festival. We also talk about: The creative culture at Pixar and what makes it impossible to replicate — including how directors would skip watching their own films in theaters to study the audience's reactions insteadThe global divide on AI in animation, from China's breakneck adoption of the technology to Japan's philosophical hesitation around whether AI can carry the "soul" of an artist's visionThe economic fragility of the animation business model, including the trend of outsourcing animation overseas and how AI might offer a path to reclaiming domestic production jobsThe importance of traditional art training as the essential foundation before any aspiring animator or filmmaker touches AI tools — and why skipping that foundation produces hollow, soulless contentThe passionate debate around AI's role in filmmaking, including the social policing happening on different platforms, copyright and trademark risks when using AI-generated imagery, and the distinction between using AI to accelerate creativity versus allowing it to replace it entirely People, Places, Products, and Websites Mentioned: People Jesse Weglein  John Lasseter Steve Jobs Ed Catmull Pete Docter Frank Oz Andrew Stanton Whoopi Goldberg Phil Tippett Tim McLaughlin  John McCarthy Akira Kurosawa Hayao Miyazaki Fritz Lang Toshiro Mifune Lionel Messi Ray Kurzweil Isaac Asimov Dario Amodei  Sam Altman  Brian Adler Barbara Lowenstein  Films & Shows Up Toy Story 3 Toy Story 4 Toy Story 5 The Incredibles ROAR  Shine (Illuminai Studios) The Color Purple  Metropolis (1927) Seven Samurai  High and Low  The Wind Rises  Spirited Away  Rashomon  Red Beard  Starship Troopers  Jumpin' Jack Flash  Sister Act  A.I. Artificial Intelligence  Disclosure Day  The Boy and the Heron  The Odyssey  Companies & Organizations Pixar Animation Studios ILLUMINAI Studios Industrial Light & Magic (ILM) Google DeepMind Tribeca Film Festival Texas A&M Visualization Anthropic OpenAI / ChatGPT Apple Technicolor Nashville Film Festival WGA Software & Technology Maya Presto (Pixar's proprietary tool) Photoshop Suno Ray tracing / render farm Websites & Social Media illuminaistudios.com nashvillefilmfestival.org Books & Products Mastering Film Marketing (ebook) Make It Academy Up Lego Set Luxo Jr. Places Emeryville, California  Lake Kawaguchi / Mount Fuji Tokyo, Japan San Francisco, California Lucas Building/Steve Jobs Building Dartmouth College / Dartmouth workshop, 1956 Other References The Dan Patrick Show The View 2026 FIFA World Cup NBA Playoffs WHALE 52 — Suite For Man, Boy, And Whale  Dear Upstairs Neighbors  Joseph McCarthy / McCarthyism We are humbled to have a community of creatives who care deeply about our work. And your support makes our work possible. Every subscriber, rating, and review matters.  So, if you like what we're doing, please consider subscribing, rating, or giving us a review. Cheers, and best of luck on your filmmaking journey. #MAKEIT www.themakeitpodcast.store/shop/support Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

    442 - Illuminai Studios Founder Jesse Weglein on Being Laid Off at Pixar, Why AI Is the Brush, Not the Artist, and Animation's Next Frontier

  6. Aug 4

    SUMMARIES - Actress Christine Woods - How to Walk Into Any Audition Room and Completely Flip the Power Dynamic in Your Favor

    Hello, Hello! In this episode, AI Hosts Alex Ivey and Allison Inverness take a deep dive into the life, craft, and career philosophy of actress Christine Woods — known for her roles in HBO's Hello Ladies, ABC's Flash Forward, and The Walking Dead — exploring how a profoundly shy girl from Lake Forest, California built a sustainable, authentic acting career by rejecting Hollywood's arbitrary rules. Drawing from a wide-ranging interview hosted by Chris, he unpacks how Christine transformed her fear of failure into a powerful, service-driven approach to storytelling that flips the traditional power dynamic of the audition room on its head. From her early tap dancing days and her grandfather Sterling's love of classic movie musicals to her unconventional college path, her manager's game-changing advice, and her expanding work as a producer and director, this episode offers a masterclass in building a creative career on your own terms. We also talk about: How Christine's grandfather Sterling — a hulking, ex-military man who secretly loved classic movie musicals — introduced her to films like Meet Me in St. Louis and Gene Kelly and Judy Garland, fundamentally shaping her belief that performance is communal storytelling, not ego-driven spectacleWhy Christine chose to attend the University of Arizona on a singing and vocal jazz scholarship rather than audition for prestigious conservatories like Juilliard or Carnegie Mellon, and how she made a calculated pivot to a Bachelor of Fine Arts in musical theater to fill a critical gap in her trainingHow severe creative constraints on low-budget indie sets — such as having only one hour left at a location to capture a crucial, emotionally exhausting scene — can actually serve as a psychological gift by forcing actors entirely into the present moment and bypassing the internal criticThe fascinating physiological mechanics behind Christine's on-set habit of performing classical vocal warm-ups right before the director calls action — including how stretching the jaw and engaging the vocal cords stimulates the vagus nerve to calm the parasympathetic nervous systemChristine's expanding work behind the camera, including producing and directing experimental comedy shorts with friends, such as one brilliantly titled Finding the A*****e, as a way to tell stories on her own terms without waiting for permission from industry gatekeepers People, Places, Products, and References Mentioned: People Christine Woods (actress) Sterling Woods (Christine's grandfather) Eric Emery (Christine's first LA manager) Joe Sill  Gene Kelly Judy Garland Billy Corgan  Frank Ocean Shows, Films & Projects Hello Ladies  FlashForward  The Walking Dead Meet Me in St. Louis Stray  Finding the A*****e — experimental comedy short Schools & Programs University of Arizona Juilliard Carnegie Mellon Social Media @TrickyBear (Christine Woods' Instagram) Bands / Artists The Smashing Pumpkins Frank Ocean Places Lake Forest, California We are humbled to have a community of creatives who care deeply about our work. And your support makes our work possible. Every subscriber, rating, and review matters.  So, if you like what we're doing, please consider subscribing, rating, or giving us a review. Cheers, and best of luck on your filmmaking journey. #MAKEIT Subscribe: https://themakeitpodcast.store/shop/support Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

    SUMMARIES - Actress Christine Woods - How to Walk Into Any Audition Room and Completely Flip the Power Dynamic in Your Favor

  7. Jul 24

    441 - How YouTube Lore Is Rewriting the Hollywood Playbook, Why George Lucas Is Right, and the New Rules of the Box Office (Your Father's IP Is Dead) - Indie Talk

    This episode is brought to you by our e-book Mastering Film Marketing. Get your copy today at https://themakeitpodcast.com/products/mastering-film-marketing Hello, Hello!  In this episode, Chris and Nick reunite for an Indie Talk episode packed with film industry insights, starting with Chris's powerful experience watching the James Baldwin documentary I Am Not Your Negro and a heartfelt shoutout to Carlton Adkins and the Enlightenment Film Academy's standing-room-only student film screening in Nashville. We dive deep into the evolving box office landscape, dissecting why certain legacy IP films are underperforming while YouTube-lore-driven films like Backrooms are shattering A24 records, and what that means for the future of indie filmmaking. We close with a rich discussion on George Lucas's comments about AI and audience testing, the Warner Bros./Paramount merger controversy, and a passionate defense of the theatrical experience as a community-building institution. We also talk about: The cultural and historical significance of the deaths of Malcolm X, Martin Luther King Jr., and Medgar Evers in the 1960s, and how their simultaneous loss effectively ended a generation of Black empowerment leadershipThe nostalgia and community value of Blockbuster Video, including employee perks, the tactile VHS experience, and how video rental stores created a unique social ecosystem that streaming has failed to replicateThe philosophical tension between George Lucas's belief in pure artistic storytelling and Kevin Goetz's data-informed audience testing approach, and what each means for the future of cinemaThe proposed Warner Bros./Paramount merger, the protests and petitions against it, what it could mean for creative competition and content diversity, and parallels to Disney's acquisition of Marvel and Star WarsThe complicated cultural conversation around celebrities and public figures in the internet age, and how total transparency disabuses audiences of the idea that their heroes are perfect or infallible People, Places, Products, and Websites Mentioned: People James Baldwin Malcolm X Martin Luther King Jr. Medgar Evers Jesse Jackson Al Sharpton John Lewis Dick Gregory T.D. Jakes Ray Charles Stevie Wonder Tom Holland Zendaya Tobey Maguire Tom Hardy Tom Brady Carlton Adkins  Kane Parsons Markiplier Kevin Goetz  George Lucas Steve Jobs R. Kelly Jean-Claude Van Damme Jason Momoa Bruce Willis Viggo Mortensen Ed Harris William Hurt John Hurt David Cronenberg Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson Samuel L. Jackson Bill Maher Martin Scorsese Kiefer Sutherland Kevin Bacon Christopher Reeve Josh Plasse Tom McCullough (PB's childhood friend) Nicholas Galitzine  Sam Harris Charlamagne tha God  Immortal Technique Chris Ferguson  Arnold Schwarzenegger Films & Documentaries I Am Not Your Negro Backrooms Longlegs  The Invite  The Odyssey  Spider-Man: No Way Home The Fifth Element 12 Monkeys Moana (live action) Moana 2 Toy Story 5 Toy Story 3 Superman  Supergirl  The Mandalorian and Grogu Barbie Everything Everywhere All at Once A History of Violence Inception Iron Lung John Wick Flatliners Fatliners (NSFW) Masters of the Universe  Snakes on a Plane Mad Men Be Kind Rewind Heavy Metal  Another Version of You Companies & Organizations A24 Warner Bros. Paramount / Skydance Disney Marvel Pixar Netflix Oddfellows Pictures — THR profile National Action Network Enlightenment Film Academy Nashville Film Festival Letterboxd Blockbuster Video Music Clipse – Let God Sort Em Out  Places Belcourt Theatre  Oakland, CA South Korea Washington, D.C. Jamaica / Caribbean Websites & Platforms The MAKE IT Podcast Letterboxd NashvilleFilmFestival.org Products & Miscellaneous Callwood Family Distillery (Caribbean) Mastering Film Marketing  Make It Academy  VHS / DVD / Blu-ray IMAX Dolby Disney Movie Club We are humbled to have a community of creatives who care deeply about our work. And your support makes our work possible. Every subscriber, rating, and review matters.  So, if you like what we're doing, please consider subscribing, rating, or giving us a review. Cheers, and best of luck on your filmmaking journey. #MAKEIT www.themakeitpodcast.store/shop/support Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

    441 - How YouTube Lore Is Rewriting the Hollywood Playbook, Why George Lucas Is Right, and the New Rules of the Box Office (Your Father's IP Is Dead) - Indie Talk

  8. Jul 21

    SUMMARIES - Caroline Locorriere - Camera Appropriateness, Script Architecture, and the Three Pillars of Craft

    Hello, Hello! In this episode, AI Hosts Alex Ivey and Allison Inverness dive deep into the remarkable journey of Caroline Locorriere, founder and lead coach of the Nashville Acting Studio, exploring how she walked away from a thriving commercial acting career in Los Angeles to discover her true calling as an acting teacher and coach. They unpack her empathy-driven teaching philosophy, which stands in direct opposition to the industry's notorious "whiplash method" of emotional terrorism, and examine how her three core pillars of acting craft — staying human on camera, accessing emotional life, and rigorous script analysis — create self-sufficient, sustainable artists. Drawing parallels far beyond the world of acting, this conversation serves as a masterclass in career self-awareness, psychological safety in creative environments, and the relentless tenacity required to survive in any subjective, competitive industry. We also talk about: Why getting a talent agent too early can permanently damage an actor's reputation with casting directors and how Caroline advises building craft first before seeking representationThe fascinating story of student Matt Williams, whose romantic performances lacked emotional depth because he had never been in love — and how Caroline's unconventional homework assignment (to go fall in love) led him to eventually get marriedThe brutal reality of casting subjectivity, illustrated through a heartbreaking story of a highly talented student who auditioned flawlessly for David Fincher's Mindhunter but lost the role to someone Caroline felt was objectively less impressive on screenThe role of tenacity over pure talent in sustaining a creative career, exemplified by former student Alan Powell, who wrote, produced, and starred in a film that reached number four on NetflixThe mystical and deeply personal story of Martha, an 80-year-old Episcopalian woman with the ability to see auras, whose unprompted words to Caroline at a crossroads moment gave her the validation she needed to trust her instincts and pursue teaching People, Places, Products, and References Mentioned: People Caroline Locorriere  Matt Williams Alan Powell  Missy (Caroline's mother) Martha (Episcopalian aura reader) Toni Morrison Shelley Duvall Bear Bryant Nick Saban Meryl Streep David Fincher Konstantin Stanislavski Shows / Films Mindhunter The Shining Institutions / Places Nashville Acting Studio Belmont University Ohio State University Platforms Netflix Concepts / Methods The Whiplash Method  Sunk Cost Fallacy "The three pillars of acting craft" — Caroline's framework "Camera appropriateness" Active listening/listening labs We are humbled to have a community of creatives who care deeply about our work. And your support makes our work possible. Every subscriber, rating, and review matters.  So, if you like what we're doing, please consider subscribing, rating, or giving us a review. Cheers, and best of luck on your filmmaking journey. #MAKEIT Subscribe: https://themakeitpodcast.store/shop/support Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

    SUMMARIES - Caroline Locorriere - Camera Appropriateness, Script Architecture, and the Three Pillars of Craft
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MAKE IT is the film podcast that provides a behind-the-scenes look at the filmmaking process. We dive into indie gems, massive blockbusters, cinema history, and everything in between. If you love movies and want more than polite chit-chat, this is your spot. Stay Inspired, Chris + Nick

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  • Creator
    Chris Barkley & Nicholas Buggs
  • Years Active
    2018 - 2026
  • Episodes
    534
  • Rating
    Explicit
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    © Copyright Bonsai Creative Enterprises, LLC 2026
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