The Modern Pain Podcast

Modern Pain Care

The Modern Pain Podcast helps clinicians and patients better understand and treat pain. We bring clinicians, researchers, and patients together. Our focus is on returning the patient's voice back to healthcare. Brought to you by Modern Pain Care. 

  1. 3D AGO

    HLH Nearly Killed Me—Here’s What It Taught Me About Care

    🎙️ What happens when a clinician becomes the patient—and almost doesn’t survive?  💥 HLH. ICU. Life support. Then… powerlifting again. In this powerful episode, strength coach and physio Jared Maynard shares his shocking journey through a life-threatening diagnosis of HLH, his fight to stay alive, and what he learned about healthcare, humanity, and healing. You’ll learn: What HLH is—and how it nearly ended Jared’s lifeThe deep clinical lessons from losing strength, speech, and independenceHow small human moments in care created lasting impactWhat it’s like to rebuild your life, body, and mindset after ICUHow Jared’s story reshaped his clinical work and coachingWhy “being human” matters more than “having the answer”Whether you’re burned out, feeling disconnected from your work, or want to show up better for patients—this story will move you. 👇 Subscribe for more clinician-to-clinician conversations.  🧠 Join the Modern Pain Pro community. 🎓 Explore Pain Practice OS and start applying modern principles. ********************************************************************* 📸 - Follow us on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/modernpaincare/ 🐦 - Follow us on Twitter - https://www.twitter.com/modernpaincare/ 🎙️ - Listen to our Podcast - https://www.modernpaincare.com ____________________________________ Modern Pain Care is a company dedicated to spreading evidence-based and person-centered information about pain, prevention, and overall fitness and wellness

    37 min
  2. JAN 11

    Why Imaging Misses Chronic Pain: Structural vs Physiologic Thinking (Part 2)

    Part 2 goes from definitions to implications. Bottom-up pain does not mean “it’s in the tissues.” This episode is a recording of a live interview with pain researcher and clinician Asaf Weissman. If you haven’t watched Part 1, start there—we laid the foundation: why pain semantics matter, how mixed messages harm patients, and why “nothing is wrong with your body” is an overreach. In Part 2, we dig into: What “always bottom up” actually means (and what it doesn’t)Structural paradigm vs pathophysiology: why imaging often fails usWhy stress, fear, and emotions are usually modulators, not causesThreshold models: when trajectories may (and may not) be changeableThe case for neuroimmune mechanisms in chronic pain statesWhere diagnostics and biologics may take chronic pain care nextWhat role physios may play as case managers and guides This is the second half of a two-part series. Part 1 builds the framework. Part 2 challenges how we interpret evidence, scope, and clinical uncertainty—while staying anchored to what helps the patient in front of you. ********************************************************************* 📸 - Follow us on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/modernpaincare/ 🐦 - Follow us on Twitter - https://www.twitter.com/modernpaincare/ 🎙️ - Listen to our Podcast - https://www.modernpaincare.com ____________________________________ Modern Pain Care is a company dedicated to spreading evidence-based and person-centered information about pain, prevention, and overall fitness and wellness

    36 min
  3. JAN 4

    Nociception vs Pain: Why Semantics Matter in Chronic Pain (Part 1)

    Chronic pain care is stuck—and definitions may be the reason. In Part 1 of this two-part series, we reset how clinicians talk about nociception and pain. This episode is a recording of a live interview with pain researcher and clinician Asaf Weissman, whose work explores the relationship between nociception and pain—and why confusion in the field creates real-world harm for patients. In this episode, you’ll learn: Why “just semantics” becomes a patient trust problemHow mixed messages (“all in your head” vs “tissue damage”) derail careWhy “nothing is wrong with your body” is an overreachWhere neuroimmune processes may fit in chronic pain biologyWhy psychological interventions tend to show only modest effects on pain intensityHow clearer definitions could move research and practice forwardThis is Part 1 of a two-part conversation. Here, we focus on the foundations—definitions, clinical frustration, and the biological plausibility behind what patients feel. Part 2 will go deeper into implications for treatment and the direction pain care needs next. Subscribe for Part 2. Join the Modern Pain Pro community. Enroll in Pain Practice OS. ********************************************************************* 📸 - Follow us on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/modernpaincare/ 🐦 - Follow us on Twitter - https://www.twitter.com/modernpaincare/ 🎙️ - Listen to our Podcast - https://www.modernpaincare.com ____________________________________ Modern Pain Care is a company dedicated to spreading evidence-based and person-centered information about pain, prevention, and overall fitness and wellness

    38 min
  4. 12/14/2025

    The Back Pain Myths Making Recovery Harder (Part 1)

    In this episode, Dr. Jim Eubanks, physiatrist and spine specialist, breaks down the most harmful back pain myths patients encounter online-and what clinicians can say instead. If you've ever struggled to help a patient move past catastrophic thinking or scary MRI language, this conversation will give you the tools to reframe pain, imaging, and recovery. What you'll learn: Why "pain equals damage" keeps patients stuck in fear and avoidanceHow to translate radiology reports into plain language that empowers movementWhen imaging is actually necessary (and when it's not)The role of lifestyle, sleep, stress, and psychological factors in back pain recoveryWhy rehabilitation should almost always come first-even before imagingThis is part one of a two-part series. Part two dives into first-line care, injections, procedures, and when to involve a specialist. 🎧 Listen to the full podcast  💬 Join Modern Pain Pro for mentorship, case discussions, and clinical resources → modernpaincare.com 📘 Learn about Pain Practice OS → Our flagship program for clinicians building local pain programs Your work matters-let's build modern pain care together. #BackPain #PhysicalTherapy #ChronicPain #PainScience #Physiatry #RehabFirst ********************************************************************* 📸 - Follow us on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/modernpaincare/ 🐦 - Follow us on Twitter - https://www.twitter.com/modernpaincare/ 🎙️ - Listen to our Podcast - https://www.modernpaincare.com ____________________________________ Modern Pain Care is a company dedicated to spreading evidence-based and person-centered information about pain, prevention, and overall fitness and wellness

    34 min
  5. 12/07/2025

    Why "Manual Therapy" Holds OMPT Back (Fellowship Director Responds)

    In this episode, I sit down with Mark Shepherd, fellowship program director, to tackle a controversial question: Is the "manual therapy" label holding back our profession? We explore whether orthopedic manual physical therapy should rebrand itself as the research evolves and public perception shifts. What we cover: Why fellowship training is about reasoning, not just techniqueThe disconnect between what OMPT actually is vs. how it's perceivedHow branding affects patient expectations and clinician identityWhether the manual therapy name limits our ability to attract new fellowsThe role of touch in modern pain care—and why it shouldn't define usThis is a nuanced conversation between two fellows who deeply respect the training but question whether our messaging matches our methods in 2025. 🎧 Modern Pain Care Resources: Join the Modern Pain Pro community Learn about Pain Practice OS #PhysicalTherapy #ManualTherapy #OMPT #PainCare #Fellowship #PainScience #Physio ********************************************************************* 📸 - Follow us on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/modernpaincare/ 🐦 - Follow us on Twitter - https://www.twitter.com/modernpaincare/ 🎙️ - Listen to our Podcast - https://www.modernpaincare.com ____________________________________ Modern Pain Care is a company dedicated to spreading evidence-based and person-centered information about pain, prevention, and overall fitness and wellness

    46 min
  6. 11/30/2025

    Chronic Pain, Lifestyle, and Data: How Pain Coach Helps Clinicians See What Really Matters

    Try Pain Coach  Struggling to turn complex chronic pain into simple, actionable care plans your patients can follow? In this episode of the Modern Pain Podcast, Mark sits down with physiotherapist and Pain Coach founder Lachlan Townend to unpack how lifestyle data, clinical reasoning, and tech can finally work together instead of against each other. Lachlan shares his own journey with persistent groin pain, why the traditional biopsychosocial model often becomes “woo-woo” and unmeasured, and how he built Pain Coach to help clinicians track sleep, exercise, social connection, nutrition, and psychological distress in a way that actually guides treatment. You’ll hear us dive into: How Lachlan’s personal pain story shaped his empathy and practiceWhy patients don’t want “complexity” – they want simple, actionable stepsThe limitations of manual therapy and short-term fixes (without throwing them out entirely)How to use lifestyle tracking as a clinical support tool, not a replacement for reasoningUsing data to test-treat-retest lifestyle changes over timeThe tension between research, incentives, and real-world outcomesHow AI could help clinicians ask better questions of their patients’ dataIf you’re a physio, PT, chiro, OT, pain coach, or any clinician working with persistent pain, this conversation will give you a concrete way to move beyond the “magic hands” model and into measurable, whole-person care. ********************************************************************* 📸 - Follow us on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/modernpaincare/ 🐦 - Follow us on Twitter - https://www.twitter.com/modernpaincare/ 🎙️ - Listen to our Podcast - https://www.modernpaincare.com ____________________________________ Modern Pain Care is a company dedicated to spreading evidence-based and person-centered information about pain, prevention, and overall fitness and wellness

    44 min
  7. 11/16/2025

    The Existential Crisis Every Manual Therapist Should Have

    In this episode, Mark sits down with Richard McIlmoyle, a chiropractor from British Columbia who went through a profound professional transformation after discovering modern pain science. Richard shares his journey from biomechanical certainty to embracing uncertainty, and how that shift has made him a better clinician and mentor. In this conversation, you'll discover: How to mentor students without destroying their foundational confidenceWhy intellectual humility is your greatest clinical assetThe tension between what we're taught in school and what science actually showsHow Richard approaches manual therapy from a macro-down perspectiveWhy he audited UBC's medical school pain curriculum (and what he found)Richard's story is a masterclass in professional evolution. From attending the San Diego Pain Summit in 2015 to now influencing medical education in British Columbia, he demonstrates what's possible when clinicians choose curiosity over certainty. ********************************************************************* 📸 - Follow us on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/modernpaincare/ 🐦 - Follow us on Twitter - https://www.twitter.com/modernpaincare/ 🎙️ - Listen to our Podcast - https://www.modernpaincare.com ____________________________________ Modern Pain Care is a company dedicated to spreading evidence-based and person-centered information about pain, prevention, and overall fitness and wellness

    45 min
4.6
out of 5
40 Ratings

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The Modern Pain Podcast helps clinicians and patients better understand and treat pain. We bring clinicians, researchers, and patients together. Our focus is on returning the patient's voice back to healthcare. Brought to you by Modern Pain Care. 

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