The Human Side of Results

Dr. Pelè

The Human Side of Results, hosted by Dr. Pelè, explores what really happens between knowing what to do and actually producing results. Through conversations with leaders, authors, coaches, and experts, the podcast examines the human behaviors that drive learning, accountability, performance, and change. Each episode explores what helps good ideas become consistent action, what supports meaningful behavior change, and how those behaviors connect to measurable results. In a world full of information, technology, and AI, this podcast brings the focus back to what matters most: how people turn what they know into what they do, and what they do into results.

  1. 5d ago

    309: It Takes a Village — Why Managers Can't Do It Alone, With Sandra Ihenacho

    What if the reason training fails to produce lasting results isn't the training itself, but the support system surrounding it? Organizations invest millions in employee development, yet too often, participants return to work and nothing changes. Managers are expected to reinforce new behaviors, HR is expected to prove the impact, and everyone hopes the investment will pay off. But as Sandra Ihenacho puts it, it takes a village. In this episode of The Human Side of Results, Dr. Pelè welcomes Sandra Ihenacho, widely known as "The Oracle," CEO of M. Bryan Consulting Limited and a passionate advocate for training transfer effectiveness across Africa. Drawing on her extensive experience in corporate learning and consulting, Sandra shares why training transfer must become a shared organizational responsibility, not another burden placed on already overwhelmed managers. Together, they explore: Why organizations continue investing in training without demanding evidence of business results.How Sandra developed her Training Transfer Effectiveness Operating System (TTEOS).Why managers play a critical role in behavior change but cannot carry the entire responsibility.The six components of an effective training transfer ecosystem.How to design training for measurable performance improvement before the program even begins.Why Sandra is building a movement across Africa to transform how organizations approach training effectiveness.This is more than a conversation about learning and development. It's a challenge to rethink how organizations turn knowing into doing, and doing into meaningful results. Because lasting behavior change doesn't happen in isolation. It takes a village. Connect with Sandra on LinkedIn here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sandra-ihenacho-b6713232/

  2. Oct 10

    Why Training Doesn't Stick (And What Actually Works), With Melanie Martinelli

    Why do so many training programs produce great feedback but so little lasting behavior change? In this episode of The Human Side of Results, Dr. Pelè speaks with Melanie Martinelli, CEO of the Institute for Transfer Effectiveness and founder of Going Beyond Training, about what it really takes to make learning stick and turn development into measurable business results. Melanie shares her journey from finance and business leadership to becoming a passionate advocate for learning transfer. After investing in training and questioning whether it actually worked, she discovered a problem that continues to challenge organizations worldwide. Together, they explore why traditional training evaluation often misses what matters, how the 12 Levers of Transfer Effectiveness help create lasting change, why workplace peers and managers are essential, and how better measurement and emerging technology can help organizations improve performance. You'll discover: Why satisfaction surveys cannot tell you whether training worked.How managers and workplace peers influence behavior change.Why measurement should drive improvement, not simply report results.How leading indicators connect workplace behavior to business outcomes.Why technology is creating new opportunities to make learning transfer practical and scalable.If you're a consultant, coach, trainer, or L&D leader who wants your programs to create meaningful change beyond the classroom, this conversation is for you. Because the real value of training isn't what people learn. It's what they do differently afterward. ---- Connect with Melanie Martinelli here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melanie-martinelli/

  3. Sep 2

    306: Training That Actually Changes Results: Why It Takes a Village, With Greg Schinkel

    Why does so much great training fail to produce measurable results? In this episode of The Human Side of Leadership, Dr. Pelè sits down with Greg Schinkel, CEO of Unique Training & Development, for a candid conversation between two leadership development practitioners who have spent decades wrestling with the same challenge: how do we turn learning into behavior change, and behavior change into business results? Greg shares his journey from manufacturing and leadership development into the ongoing pursuit of better ways to activate and measure learning. Dr. Pelè traces his own perspective back to an extraordinary childhood experience during the Nigerian Civil War, where he learned a lesson that would shape his philosophy decades later: survival did not depend on one person. It took a village. Together, they explore why traditional training measurement often stops short of results, the limitations of surveys and self-reported behavior, the roles managers and executives must play after training, and how AI is creating new possibilities for seeing behavior change as it happens. Their central conclusion is simple but consequential: the learner cannot carry the responsibility for training success alone. If organizations want development programs to create measurable results, participants must practice, leaders must activate, and organizations must leverage what they learn. Training may begin in the classroom. Results happen in the village.

  4. Aug 19

    305: Leadership Without Losing the Human Touch, With Joshua Evarts

    As technology and AI reshape the way we work, how do leaders embrace innovation without losing the human touch? Joshua Evarts has spent more than three decades building businesses in technology. But some of his most important lessons about leadership came from an unexpected place: a cigar lounge he opened as a gathering space for conversation, community, and connection. In this episode of The Human Side of Leadership, Dr. Pelè talks with Joshua, author of If Jesus Smoked Cigars, about why relationships remain at the heart of meaningful leadership, even as technology becomes more powerful. Joshua shares how his battle with cancer deepened his appreciation for human connection, why technology should ultimately lead us back to better conversations, and what his cigar lounge taught him about creating spaces where people feel seen, heard, and valued. They also explore the growing role of AI, the importance of listening more than speaking, and why knowing that relationships matter isn't enough. Leaders have to turn that belief into everyday behavior. Joshua's challenge to leaders is both simple and profound: don't try to transform every relationship at once. Start with one. Because ultimately, great leadership isn't just about building a successful business. It's about building a culture strong enough to help people navigate the inevitable challenges of business and life without losing what makes us human. Connect with Joshua Evarts on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuaevarts/

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The Human Side of Results, hosted by Dr. Pelè, explores what really happens between knowing what to do and actually producing results. Through conversations with leaders, authors, coaches, and experts, the podcast examines the human behaviors that drive learning, accountability, performance, and change. Each episode explores what helps good ideas become consistent action, what supports meaningful behavior change, and how those behaviors connect to measurable results. In a world full of information, technology, and AI, this podcast brings the focus back to what matters most: how people turn what they know into what they do, and what they do into results.