Welcome to episode four of my new podcast series — Object/ive Permanence — where in one take, no edits, I chat with someone, the conversation is captured, and you can watch and/or listen to it. The podcast is here on Substack but will go out on all the other usual Podcast channels as past of the “Sweetman Podcast” RSS. This is a new experiment. I’m talking to people about an object they bring, and from there we go wherever the conversation takes us. Of course I’ll let them talk about who they are, what they do, and current or past work, but it’s less the focus than the original Sweetman Podcast, which was audio only. For this pod, each guest is asked to bring an object, something to talk about. We get going from there. David Jefferis is a fourth generation Waikato farmer, and huge music lover. The record collector, and occasional DJ, took his love of music to a new level by starting Haymaker Records. With vinyl reissues of HDU and Stinky Jim and new releases by Christoph El Truento, the boutique label follows David’s whim, and operates uniquely in that Jerfferis seeks to cover his costs, and then pass any and all profits to the artist. He creates one page contracts, and allows musicians the freedom to work with other labels, to get their start with him, or to return at any stage. The latest (upcoming) release is the Sam Hunt/David Kilgour collaboration, The 9th — a set of Sam Hunt poems recorded in the studio and set to music by David Kilgour & The Heavy 8s. The album was first released over a decade ago, and this marks its first time on vinyl. For this podcast, we talked specifically about the label and that record (releasing Friday, November 13). We did have some technical issues bringing this recording to life, it is a second attempt, and it does cut out at the very end — so we don’t quite get to land the plane, but I like the idea that a podcast called Object/ive Permanence cuts out, fades, drops out in some sense. This episode anyway. Sounds Good! is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to Sounds Good! at simonsweetman.substack.com/subscribe