Thinking about your first hire, or wondering if the last one is actually paying off? This episode is for the business owner who wants help and wants to know the help will earn its keep. Co-host Rebecca Kaufman, Amanda's sister and a former member of her team, puts Amanda in the hot seat on hiring: how to know it is the right time, and how to get the quickest return on the decision. Amanda, founder of Clairvenu, gets into the help to get first, the four categories most hires fall into, the worst hiring advice she ever paid for, the spreadsheet test that replaced it, and the thinking behind hiring her own sister. In this episode, you will learn: 🗺️ The first help to get, before you start: a mentor, an accountant, and a lawyer 🗂️ The four categories of help (admin, delivery, sales, marketing) and how to measure each one 😬 The worst hiring advice Amanda ever paid for, and the cost of hiring emotionally 📊 The spreadsheet test: map every activity, cost it out, and ask "can I make a trade?" 👭 Getting comfortable with firing before you hire, and what Amanda weighed before hiring her sister 🌱 Culture over "A players," and starting small with a freelancer to build the skill of giving work away ------ CHAPTERS 00:00 The right time to hire, and the quickest ROI on it 00:55 What I mean by a hire, from employees to independent contractors 03:41 Ask for help from the beginning, starting with a mentor 05:20 An accountant and a business lawyer, before the IRS says hello 06:51 The four categories of help, starting with admin 08:22 Delivery and fulfillment, and my labor budget for every unit 09:16 Hiring emotionally, and hiring my sister into sales 10:41 Overhiring in marketing, the black hole beast 13:15 Input versus output, and the worst hiring advice I ever got 15:32 The best advice: make a spreadsheet 17:21 Can I make a trade? Pricing activities against my time 19:59 Getting comfy with firing, and the thinking behind hiring my sister 22:13 Transparent terms, and a parting of ways with no drama 24:38 A players, and cultivating an A environment 27:17 Remember, hiring a human is a relationship 28:23 Start small, test, and learn to give work away ------ RESOURCES FROM THIS EPISODE 🎓 Free live training, How Serious Service Businesses Build High-Converting Funnels & Acquisition Systems That Run 24/7: https://clairvenu.com/training 📞 Apply for a free Revenue Clarity Conversation with Amanda: https://clairvenu.com ------ CONNECT WITH AMANDA KAUFMAN & THE SHOW 🌐 Website: https://clairvenu.com 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandackaufman/ 📸 Instagram: @theamandakaufman or https://www.instagram.com/theamandakaufman 📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ChatwithAmandaKaufman/ 🎤 Want to be a guest? Amanda is always looking for guests who can help business owners build something that actually works. If that sounds like you, apply at https://clairvenu.com/the-podcast ------ STAY IN THE LOOP 📬 Subscribe to The Quiet Part, Amanda's newsletter where she shares what is actually working in her business, without the performance. Sign up at: https://clairvenu.com/the-quiet-part ------ LISTEN TO THE AMANDA KAUFMAN SHOW ▶️ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theamandakaufmanshow 🎧 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-amanda-kaufman-show/id1450993176 🎵 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6htaUMvVWPHlHmpqW51Enj?si=092409891ff1420f If this episode helped you, a quick review on Apple Podcasts goes a long way. It helps the show reach more business owners who are ready to do the real work. Thank you in advance!