Cult or Just Weird

Cult Or Just Weird
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Cult or Just Weird

Join Chris & Kayla on their journeys of humor, discovery, and the absurd as they try to answer the question... is it a cult, or just weird?

  1. SEP 3

    S6E23 - The Mindset

    Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord!   --- The future is there… looking back at us. Trying to make sense of the fiction we will have become. -William Gibson   Chris & Kayla finally land the plane on this whole TESCREAL situation. --- *Search Categories* anthropological; internet culture; science/pseudoscience --- *Topic Spoiler* TESCREAL "is it a cult or just weird?" evaluation & discussion --- Further Reading https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TESCREAL#:~:text=TESCREAL%20is%20an%20acronym%20neologism,effective%20altruism%2C%20and%20longtermism%22. https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/13636 --- *Patreon Credits* Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach, Alyssa Ottum, David Whiteside, Jade A, amy sarah marshall, Martina Dobson, Eillie Anzilotti, Lewis Brown, Kelly Smith Upton, Wild Hunt Alex, Niklas Brock, Jim Fingal >> Jenny Lamb, Matthew Walden, Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H, Jessica Senk, Proper Gander, Nancy Carlson, Carly Westergard-Dobson, banana, Megan Blackburn, Instantly Joy, Athena of CaveSystem, John Grelish, Rose Kerchinske, Annika Ramen, Alicia Smith, Kevin, Velm, Dan Malmud, tiny, Dom, Tribe Label - Panda - Austin, Noelle Hoover, Tesa Hamilton, Nicole Carter, Paige, Brian Lancaster, tiny, GD

    1h 14m

  2. AUG 27

    S6E22 - The Germ Makers (Eugenics, pt2)

    Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord!   --- POV: the Serenity Prayer, but with shoulds instead of cans.   Chris & Kayla attempt to tie the knot between Transhumanism and Eugenics. --- *Search Categories* Science / Pseudoscience; Anthropological; Destructive   --- *Topic Spoiler* Eugenics   --- Further Reading https://www.britannica.com/science/eugenics-genetics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_eugenics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_eugenics https://openscholarship.wustl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?params=/context/bio_facpubs/article/1001/&path_info=Eugenics__Annals_of_Eugenics_.pdf The Deceptive Simplicity of Mendelian Genetics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Galton https://galton.org/essays/1900-1911/galton-1904-am-journ-soc-eugenics-scope-aims.htm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Pearson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolphe_Quetelet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Davenport The American Eugenics Records Office https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Harvey_Kellogg https://www.plannedparenthood.org/uploads/filer_public/cc/2e/cc2e84f2-126f-41a5-a24b-43e093c47b2c/210414-sanger-opposition-claims-p01.pdf https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/08/14/432080520/fact-check-was-planned-parenthood-started-to-control-the-black-population https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_v._Bell https://blog.petrieflom.law.harvard.edu/2020/10/14/why-buck-v-bell-still-matters/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_Darrow The Eugenics Cult, by Clarence Darrow https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_eugenics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Huxley https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed_evolution_(transhumanism) https://www.seenandunseen.com/transhumanism-eugenics-digital-age https://slate.com/technology/2022/03/silicon-valley-transhumanism-eugenics-information.html https://biopoliticalphilosophy.com/2023/01/19/transhumanism-is-eugenics-for-educated-white-liberals/ Making Us New: From Eugenics to Transhumanism in Modernist Culture https://www.vice.com/en/article/prominent-ai-philosopher-and-father-of-longtermism-sent-very-racist-email-to-a-90s-philosophy-listserv/ https://www.truthdig.com/articles/longtermism-and-eugenics-a-primer/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_eugenics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Huxley https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNESCO https://slate.com/technology/2022/03/silicon-valley-transhumanism-eugenics-information.html https://www.seenandunseen.com/transhumanism-eugenics-digital-age https://www.vice.com/en/article/prominent-ai-philosopher-and-father-of-longtermism-sent-very-racist-email-to-a-90s-philosophy-listserv/ https://biopoliticalphilosophy.com/2023/01/19/transhumanism-is-eugenics-for-educated-white-liberals/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_model_of_disability https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Cyborg_Manifesto https://journals.scholarsportal.info/details/23803312/v05i0001/1_ctm.xml https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2004/04/the-case-against-perfection/302927/   --- *Patreon Credits* Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach, Alyssa Ottum, David Whiteside, Jade A, amy sarah marshall, Martina Dobson, Eillie Anzilotti, Lewis Brown, Kelly Smith Upton, Wild Hunt Alex, Niklas Brock, Jim Fingal >> Jenny Lamb, Matthew Walden, Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H, Jessica Senk, Proper Gander, Nancy Carlson, Carly Westergard-Dobson, banana, Megan Blackburn, Instantly Joy, Athena of CaveSystem, John Grelish, Rose Kerchinske, Annika Ramen, Alicia Smith, Kevin, Velm, Dan Malmud, tiny, Dom, Tribe Label - Panda - Austin, Noelle Hoover, Tesa Hamilton, Nicole Carter, Paige, Brian Lancaster, tiny, GD

    1h 15m

  3. AUG 20

    S6E21 - The Germ Makers (Eugenics)

    Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord!   --- No idiot knows that he is an idiot. As a rule, those of small intellectual equipment are so sure of themselves that they are eager to make the race over in their own image. -Clarence Darrow   Chris & Kayla enjoy dunking on one of history's worst ideas. --- *Search Categories* Science / Pseudoscience; Anthropological; Destructive   --- *Topic Spoiler* Eugenics   --- Further Reading https://www.britannica.com/science/eugenics-genetics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_eugenics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_eugenics https://openscholarship.wustl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?params=/context/bio_facpubs/article/1001/&path_info=Eugenics__Annals_of_Eugenics_.pdf The Deceptive Simplicity of Mendelian Genetics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Galton https://galton.org/essays/1900-1911/galton-1904-am-journ-soc-eugenics-scope-aims.htm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Pearson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolphe_Quetelet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Davenport The American Eugenics Records Office https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Harvey_Kellogg https://www.plannedparenthood.org/uploads/filer_public/cc/2e/cc2e84f2-126f-41a5-a24b-43e093c47b2c/210414-sanger-opposition-claims-p01.pdf https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/08/14/432080520/fact-check-was-planned-parenthood-started-to-control-the-black-population https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_v._Bell https://blog.petrieflom.law.harvard.edu/2020/10/14/why-buck-v-bell-still-matters/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_Darrow The Eugenics Cult, by Clarence Darrow https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_eugenics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Huxley https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed_evolution_(transhumanism) https://www.seenandunseen.com/transhumanism-eugenics-digital-age https://slate.com/technology/2022/03/silicon-valley-transhumanism-eugenics-information.html https://biopoliticalphilosophy.com/2023/01/19/transhumanism-is-eugenics-for-educated-white-liberals/ Making Us New: From Eugenics to Transhumanism in Modernist Culture https://www.vice.com/en/article/prominent-ai-philosopher-and-father-of-longtermism-sent-very-racist-email-to-a-90s-philosophy-listserv/ https://www.truthdig.com/articles/longtermism-and-eugenics-a-primer/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2004/04/the-case-against-perfection/302927/   --- *Patreon Credits* Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach, Alyssa Ottum, David Whiteside, Jade A, amy sarah marshall, Martina Dobson, Eillie Anzilotti, Lewis Brown, Kelly Smith Upton, Wild Hunt Alex, Niklas Brock, Jim Fingal >> Jenny Lamb, Matthew Walden, Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H, Jessica Senk, Proper Gander, Nancy Carlson, Carly Westergard-Dobson, banana, Megan Blackburn, Instantly Joy, Athena of CaveSystem, John Grelish, Rose Kerchinske, Annika Ramen, Alicia Smith, Kevin, Velm, Dan Malmud, tiny, Dom, Tribe Label - Panda - Austin, Noelle Hoover, Tesa Hamilton, Nicole Carter, Paige, Brian Lancaster, tiny, GD

    1h 14m

  4. AUG 13

    S6E20 - The Final Boss(es) (Effective Altruism & Longtermism)

    Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord!   --- I have often wondered whether a person is justified in neglecting his own family to fight for opportunities for others.  -Nelson Mandela   Last week was context... this week we get juicy. --- *Search Categories* Business; Society & Culture; Common Interest/Fandom   --- *Topic Spoiler* Effective Altruism & Longtermism   --- Further Reading https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effective_altruism# https://www.centreforeffectivealtruism.org/ceas-guiding-principles https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/in-continued-defense-of-effective https://nypost.com/2022/11/21/polyamory-pills-inside-sam-bankman-frieds-ftx-party-pad/ https://www.coindesk.com/business/2022/11/10/bankman-frieds-cabal-of-roommates-in-the-bahamas-ran-his-crypto-empire-and-dated-other-employees-have-lots-of-questions/ https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/nov/19/polyamory-penthouses-and-plenty-of-loans-inside-the-crazy-world-of-ftx https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2023-03-07/effective-altruism-s-problems-go-beyond-sam-bankman-fried https://time.com/6252617/effective-altruism-sexual-harassment/ https://www.theguardian.com/technology/article/2024/aug/03/open-ai-sam-altman-chatgpt-gary-marcus-taming-silicon-valley https://www.thephilosopher1923.org/post/a-mirror-for-tech-bros https://time.com/6262810/sam-bankman-fried-effective-altruism-alameda-ftx/ --- *Patreon Credits* Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach, Alyssa Ottum, David Whiteside, Jade A, amy sarah marshall, Martina Dobson, Eillie Anzilotti, Lewis Brown, Kelly Smith Upton, Wild Hunt Alex, Niklas Brock, Jim Fingal >> Jenny Lamb, Matthew Walden, Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H, Jessica Senk, Proper Gander, Nancy Carlson, Carly Westergard-Dobson, banana, Megan Blackburn, Instantly Joy, Athena of CaveSystem, John Grelish, Rose Kerchinske, Annika Ramen, Alicia Smith, Kevin, Velm, Dan Malmud, tiny, Dom, Tribe Label - Panda - Austin, Noelle Hoover, Tesa Hamilton, Nicole Carter, Paige, Brian Lancaster, tiny, GD

    51 min

  5. AUG 6

    S6E19 - The Final Boss(es) (Effective Altruism & Longtermism)

    Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord!   --- The true meaning of life is to plant trees, under whose shade you do not expect to sit. - Nelson Henderson   We tackle the final three letters of the TESCREAL acronym, and fight about the future. --- *Search Categories* Business; Society & Culture; Common Interest/Fandom   --- *Topic Spoiler* Effective Altruism & Longtermism   --- Further Reading https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20231009-ftxs-sam-bankman-fried-believed-in-effective-altruism-what-is-it https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/11/17/effective-altruism-sam-bankman-fried-ftx-crypto/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effective_altruism# https://www.centreforeffectivealtruism.org/ceas-guiding-principles https://commons.pacificu.edu/work/sc/a3bc869a-d6aa-4bb4-837b-3dcf6847199e https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/23298870/effective-altruism-longtermism-will-macaskill-future https://theconversation.com/longtermism-why-the-million-year-philosophy-cant-be-ignored-193538 https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220805-what-is-longtermism-and-why-does-it-matter https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2021/11/3/22760718/patient-philanthropy-fund-charity-longtermism Adams, Carol J.; Crary, Alice; Gruen, Lori, eds. (2023). The Good it Promises, The Harm it Does: Critical Essays on Effective Altruism. Oxford; New York: Oxford University Press. https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/in-continued-defense-of-effective --- *Patreon Credits* Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach, Alyssa Ottum, David Whiteside, Jade A, amy sarah marshall, Martina Dobson, Eillie Anzilotti, Lewis Brown, Kelly Smith Upton, Wild Hunt Alex, Niklas Brock, Jim Fingal >> Jenny Lamb, Matthew Walden, Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H, Jessica Senk, Proper Gander, Nancy Carlson, Carly Westergard-Dobson, banana, Megan Blackburn, Instantly Joy, Athena of CaveSystem, John Grelish, Rose Kerchinske, Annika Ramen, Alicia Smith, Kevin, Velm, Dan Malmud, tiny, Dom, Tribe Label - Panda - Austin, Noelle Hoover, Tesa Hamilton, Nicole Carter, Paige, Brian Lancaster, tiny, GD

    41 min

  6. JUL 30

    S6E18 - The Resurrection (Cosmism)

    Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord!   --- We're not earthly beings any more... we're cosmic beings. - Eden Ahbez   Two episodes in one to grapple with the origins of a cosmic concept, and its future among the stars. --- *Search Categories* Science / Pseudoscience   --- *Topic Spoiler* Russian Cosmism and modern Cosmism   --- Further Reading https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_cosmism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Fyodorov_(philosopher) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Goertzel https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/13636/11606 --- *Patreon Credits* Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach, Alyssa Ottum, David Whiteside, Jade A, amy sarah marshall, Martina Dobson, Eillie Anzilotti, Lewis Brown, Kelly Smith Upton, Wild Hunt Alex, Niklas Brock, Jim Fingal >> Jenny Lamb, Matthew Walden, Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H, Jessica Senk, Proper Gander, Nancy Carlson, Carly Westergard-Dobson, banana, Megan Blackburn, Instantly Joy, Athena of CaveSystem, John Grelish, Rose Kerchinske, Annika Ramen, Alicia Smith, Kevin, Velm, Dan Malmud, tiny, Dom, Tribe Label - Panda - Austin, Noelle Hoover, Tesa Hamilton, Nicole Carter, Paige, Brian Lancaster, tiny, GD

    51 min

  7. JUL 23

    S6E17 - The Immortalists' Conclusions (Church of Perpetual Life)

    Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord!   --- Time isn't the only thing the FDA is killing. - ACT UP slogan   Chris & Kayla grapple with the intense nuance presented by the Church of Perpetual Life and the Life Extension Foundation. --- *Search Categories* Anthropological; Science / Pseudoscience; Common interest / Fandom   --- *Topic Spoiler* Bill Faloon, The Church of Perpetual Life, and the FDA   --- Further Reading https://www.churchofperpetuallife.org/ https://www.youtube.com/@COPL18/featured https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Faloon https://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/1999/1/fda-standing-in-the-way-of-progress https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/theyre-gonna-live-forever-6363863 https://www.actuporalhistory.org/actions/seize-control-of-the-fda https://www.archivebuttons.com/articles?article=https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2011/12/before-occupy-how-aids-activists-seized-control-of-the-fda-in-1988/249302/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACT_UP https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_freedom_movement --- *Patreon Credits* Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach, Alyssa Ottum, David Whiteside, Jade A, amy sarah marshall, Martina Dobson, Eillie Anzilotti, Lewis Brown, Kelly Smith Upton, Wild Hunt Alex, Niklas Brock, Jim Fingal >> Jenny Lamb, Matthew Walden, Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H, Jessica Senk, Proper Gander, Nancy Carlson, Carly Westergard-Dobson, banana, Megan Blackburn, Instantly Joy, Athena of CaveSystem, John Grelish, Rose Kerchinske, Annika Ramen, Alicia Smith, Kevin, Velm, Dan Malmud, tiny, Dom, Tribe Label - Panda - Austin, Noelle Hoover, Tesa Hamilton, Nicole Carter, Paige, Brian Lancaster, tiny, GD

    47 min

  8. JUL 16

    S6E16 - The Immortalists' Founder (Church of Perpetual Life)

    Wanna chat about the episode? Or just hang out? Come join us on discord!   --- How could I enjoy a yacht if I know we're all going to die and disappear? - Bill Faloon   Chris & Kayla head back to Church to learn more about the man behind the curtain. --- *Search Categories* Anthropological; Science / Pseudoscience; Common interest / Fandom   --- *Topic Spoiler* Bill Faloon & The Church of Perpetual Life   --- Further Reading https://www.churchofperpetuallife.org/ https://www.youtube.com/@COPL18/featured https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Faloon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biomedical_Research_%26_Longevity_Society https://www.orlandosentinel.com/1993/01/31/the-big-chill-7/ https://www.yahoo.com/news/society-gala-used-sell-young-093510021.html https://www.vice.com/en/article/9a3kwe/the-church-of-perpetual-life https://www.popsci.com/forever-man-immortality-science/ https://www.browardpalmbeach.com/news/bill-faloon-and-saul-kent-major-figures-in-cryonics-movement-start-a-church-in-hollywood-6969096 https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/south-florida-church-pursues-eternal-life-through-cryonics-inflaming-critics-and-the-irs-7608632 Bill Faloon: A Life Long Quest To Reverse Human Aging! --- *Patreon Credits* Michaela Evans, Heather Aunspach, Alyssa Ottum, David Whiteside, Jade A, amy sarah marshall, Martina Dobson, Eillie Anzilotti, Lewis Brown, Kelly Smith Upton, Wild Hunt Alex, Niklas Brock, Jim Fingal >> Jenny Lamb, Matthew Walden, Rebecca Kirsch, Pam Westergard, Ryan Quinn, Paul Sweeney, Erin Bratu, Liz T, Lianne Cole, Samantha Bayliff, Katie Larimer, Fio H, Jessica Senk, Proper Gander, Nancy Carlson, Carly Westergard-Dobson, banana, Megan Blackburn, Instantly Joy, Athena of CaveSystem, John Grelish, Rose Kerchinske, Annika Ramen, Alicia Smith, Kevin, Velm, Dan Malmud, tiny, Dom, Tribe Label - Panda - Austin, Noelle Hoover, Tesa Hamilton, Nicole Carter, Paige, Brian Lancaster, tiny, GD

    36 min
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Join Chris & Kayla on their journeys of humor, discovery, and the absurd as they try to answer the question... is it a cult, or just weird?

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    Cult Or Just Weird
  • Years Active
    2019 - 2024
  • Episodes
    117
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    Explicit
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