Dental Leaders Podcast

Prav Solanki & Payman Langroudi

The Dental Leaders podcast takes you on a behind the scenes journey with emerging leaders in dentistry. Success leaves clues, and these conversations uncover the depth, detail, and backstory behind our guests. The show is hosted by dental entrepreneurs Payman Langroudi & Prav Solanki. Let the conversation flow. Find out more at https://www.dentalleaders.co.uk/

  1. 4D AGO

    Mind Movers #47 - Anne-Sophie Flury

    This expansive and deeply reflective episode features Anne-Sophie Flury — neuroscientist, psychology graduate, former PhD researcher, and wellness educator — whose work bridges hard science with lived human experience. Known online as “Coochie by Gucci,” Anne-Sophie brings rare honesty and intellectual clarity to conversations about the brain, trauma, intuition, and emotional agency.Rhona and Payman explore Anne-Sophie’s unconventional academic journey, from leaving a business degree for psychology to working in experimental neuroscience and neuropsychopharmacology alongside leading researchers. Together, they unpack why understanding the brain isn’t enough — and how learning that the brain can change became the turning point in Anne-Sophie’s own mental health and sense of agency.The conversation moves fluidly through modern overwhelm: social media burnout, dopamine addiction, emotional over-identification, and the spiritualisation of feelings. Anne-Sophie offers a grounded, science-based perspective on meditation, psychedelics, mindfulness, and nervous system regulation — cutting through both clinical detachment and performative spirituality.What emerges is a powerful discussion about responsibility without shame, emotional awareness without indulgence, and why separating yourself from your thoughts may be the most liberating skill of all.In This Episode00:00:25 – Returning to Mind Movers & meeting Anne-Sophie00:01:45 – From business to psychology: finding intellectual purpose00:04:15 – Neuroscience, VR research & leaving the PhD00:07:20 – Failure, resilience & unconventional career pivots00:08:30 – “Coochie by Gucci”: identity, grief & online personas00:10:20 – Social media, activism & burnout00:12:30 – Doomscrolling, empathy fatigue & loss of motivation00:14:40 – Perfection culture, comparison & digital disconnection00:18:45 – Psychology vs neuroscience: understanding the brain00:20:05 – Psychedelics, policy & political suppression00:23:00 – What psychedelics actually do to the brain00:27:20 – Mental health, loneliness & early emotional struggles00:30:40 – The moment everything changed: “I can change my brain”00:31:50 – Meditation, neuroplasticity & emotional regulation00:34:00 – Agency, awareness & visualising a different life00:36:00 – Relationships, values & evolving identities00:38:10 – Can core values really change?00:40:10 – Trauma, intuition & emotional misinterpretation00:42:25 – Are we over-validating emotions?00:44:30 – Spiritual bypassing vs real growth00:45:00 – Float tanks, meditation & separating from thought00:48:20 – Anxiety vs intuition: learning the differenceAbout Anne-Sophie FluryAnne-Sophie Flury is a neuroscience and psychology specialist whose work focuses on emotional regulation, nervous system awareness, and personal agency. After completing a psychology degree, a master’s in experimental neuroscience, and publishing research during her PhD, she stepped away from academia to make science accessible in the real world.Blending research, lived experience, and practical tools, Anne-Sophie helps people understand not just why they feel the way they do — but how to change it. Her work challenges emotional fatalism, encourages responsibility without self-blame, and reframes mental health as something dynamic rather than fixed.

    1h 37m
  2. DEC 17

    #322 100 Practices — Deepa Patel

    In this episode of Dental Leaders, Payman chats with Deepa Patel, a locum dentist with the unique experience of working inside over 100 different practices. Having held every role from nurse and receptionist to practice manager before qualifying, Deepa shares why the happiest practices aren't always the most high-tech, and why the most profitable dentists aren't always the most skilled. They touch on her philosophy of treating "dental and mental health" together and discuss how a transformative 10-day silent meditation retreat shifted her focus from perfection to presence. From humming during extractions to her daily gratitude practice, Deepa reveals to Payman why emotional intelligence is just as vital as clinical precision in modern dentistry. In This Episode 01:20 - Mini smile makeovers and composite work 04:10 - Mindset around colour conversations 05:30 - Lessons from inside 100 practices 08:00 - Adapting to different equipment 10:20 - Respect for nurses and teamwork 12:45 - Why reception is the hardest job 14:35 - Handling difficult patients 17:10 - Dentists who couldn't do nursing 22:30 - Working in corporate versus independent 24:45 - Meeting patients in the waiting room 30:15 - Teeth colour and ageing 33:20 - Humming to keep patients calm 37:30 - Ethical treatment planning 39:20 - Disagreeing with treatment plans 42:05 - Motherhood and work-life balance 47:50 - The silent meditation retreat experience 50:15 - Living in the moment 54:15 - Treating dental and mental health together 56:35 - Blackbox thinking 01:00:50 - Manager power in corporates 01:09:25 - Courses as an investment 01:10:10 - Writing ten gratitudes every morning About Deepa Patel Deepa Patel qualified as a dentist in India before moving to the UK, where she worked as a hygienist, dental nurse, receptionist, and practice manager whilst completing her ORE exams. She now works two days a week at a Bupa practice and spends the rest of her time as a locum dentist, having gained experience in over 100 different practices across the UK. Deepa completed a transformative 10-day Vipassana silent meditation retreat and practices daily gratitude, writing ten things she's grateful for every morning. She lives in Derbyshire with her husband and two children, aged 16 and 4.

    1h 14m
  3. DEC 10

    #321 All In — Adeel Ali

    This week, Payman sits down with Adeel Ali, an implantologist who's taken the kind of risks most dentists only talk about. Seven years qualified and he's already built multiple UK practices, mastered full-arch implantology including zygomatics, and most recently moved his family to Qatar to open a clinic from scratch—all whilst flying back every three weeks to maintain UK commitments.  The conversation reveals someone refreshingly honest about not being naturally gifted clinically, instead crediting a relentless work ethic inherited from his father's 40-year retail career. They discuss marrying at 24, having kids young, and deliberately choosing to excel in every domain simultaneously rather than sequentially.  Adeel's approach to business follows a simple framework: character-assassinate potential partners for integrity, find the best person doing what you want to learn, and when uncertainty hits, pray five times daily and trust it'll work out.  From explaining why people should die with fixed teeth rather than dentures to how his wife rewired his mindset about Qatar, this episode offers an unfiltered look at making bold moves work through spiritual conviction and practical ruthlessness. In This Episode 00:01:20 - Work ethic and retail roots 00:04:25 - Teaching kids about money and work 00:09:10 - Family dynamics and sacrifice 00:13:50 - Marrying young and choosing fatherhood 00:16:50 - Struggling through dental school 00:22:15 - Life-changing full arch work 00:23:25 - Finding mentors and the Tatum course 00:26:25 - Three-tier training programme 00:29:10 - Advice for aspiring implantologists 00:33:45 - Aha moments in implantology 00:43:15 - Mentorship beyond clinical skills 00:46:50 - Choosing business partners 00:51:15 - Practice acquisitions and growth strategy 00:53:20 - Comfortable in the uncomfortable 00:56:25 - Faith, religion and rating people holistically 00:59:35 - Prayer and God consciousness 01:05:50 - The Qatar move 01:09:35 - Building London Implant Clinic from scratch 01:12:35 - Wife's all-in mentality 01:14:10 - Flying lifestyle and health concerns 01:18:40 - Fantasy dinner party 01:30:35 - Full arch consultation process 01:36:25 - Cultural differences treating Qatari patients About Adeel Ali Adeel Ali is an implantologist who recently relocated to Qatar whilst maintaining UK practices. He's completed around 800 full arch cases and placed approximately 8,000 implants, focusing primarily on complex zygomatic and pterygoid cases. He runs a three-tier mentorship programme and travels between Qatar and the UK every three weeks.

    1h 39m
  4. DEC 3

    #320 The Student President — Fabian Farbahi

    In this Dental Leaders episode, Payman sits down with Fabian Farbahi, a 22-year-old Sheffield dental student who's already mastered something most people spend decades learning: the power of genuine conversation.  Fabian spends 3.5-hour train journeys striking up chats with strangers because he's fascinated by people's stories—the same curiosity that drove him to become president of Sheffield's dental student society and spend two months on elective in Brazil learning Portuguese. They discuss Fabian's refreshingly unformed career path—he's drawn to oral surgery, intrigued by sports dentistry, passionate about public health behaviour change, and comfortable not knowing exactly which direction he'll take.  The conversation covers his transformation from small-town student to confident stage presenter, lessons learned managing volunteers without pay, and why the best time to take business risks is when you're young. What emerges is someone who understands that dentistry isn't just about teeth—it's about connection, communication, and throwing yourself into uncomfortable situations until they become second nature. In This Episode 00:03:35 - Choosing Sheffield and moving north 00:06:45 - Clinical mistakes and university challenges 00:07:40 - Student society presidency 00:11:25 - Train conversations and connecting with strangers 00:14:20 - Getting into dental school struggles 00:17:40 - Career interests: implants, oral surgery, sports dentistry 00:20:35 - Public health and behaviour change 00:26:15 - Implantology path and the dip 00:30:05 - Practice ownership versus travel ambitions 00:32:20 - Two-month Brazil elective experience 00:41:20 - Six-year projections and taking risks young 00:44:30 - Managing people without payment 00:50:15 - Business culture and leadership style 00:54:50 - FDI World Dental Congress in Istanbul 00:58:20 - Shadowing at Evo Dental 01:01:30 - Sponsor hunting and sales lessons 01:06:00 - Finding confidence through reinvention 01:08:50 - Fantasy dinner party About Fabian Farbahi Fabian Farbahi is a fourth-year Sheffield dental student who served as president of the Sheffield University Dental Student Society. Originally from Taunton, he recently completed a two-month elective in Brazil, working across multiple cities whilst learning Portuguese and immersing himself in the culture.

    1h 13m
  5. NOV 26

    #319 The Network Effect — Nikhil Sethi

    Nik Sethi returns to the podcast four years after his first appearance alongside brother Sanjay, and what's changed reads like a masterclass in professional evolution.  Now president of BAAD and founder of the Elevate education platform, Nik's story isn't about flashy techniques or groundbreaking discoveries—it's about something far more valuable. He's built his success on a simple premise that many overlook: getting the foundations right matters more than chasing the last 5%.  Through honest reflections on juggling multiple practices, raising young children, and navigating the occasional courier disaster, Nik reveals how surrounding yourself with the right people and mastering the basics can transform not just your dentistry, but your entire relationship with the profession.  His approach to breaking complex cases into manageable checkpoints, leveraging technology for better communication, and building genuine relationships through dental academies offers a blueprint for sustainable success that doesn't require sacrificing your evenings or your sanity. In This Episode 00:02:10 - Return to the podcast 00:08:00 - BAAD presidency and academy culture 00:13:30 - Young BAAD initiative 00:16:05 - Post-COVID events and networking value 00:20:30 - Career transitions and taking the plunge 00:23:15 - Keys to staying happy in dentistry 00:26:10 - Elevate education platform origins 00:28:00 - Focusing on foundations over the last 5% 00:29:00 - Patient communication and relationship building 00:36:50 - Building the Elevate diploma 00:40:15 - Business ventures and collaboration 00:57:25 - Learning from Dev Patel and Dental Beauty 01:00:55 - Drew Shah and Dentinal Tubules influence 01:02:40 - Leadership and financial education 01:04:15 - Spinning multiple plates 01:07:15 - Hands-on course disasters and problem solving 01:18:05 - Lab relationships and communication 01:25:15 - Trust and long-term lab partnerships 01:31:20 - Physical impressions versus digital scanning 01:33:15 - Using digital technology for patient education 01:37:00 - Direct versus indirect treatment decisions 01:38:05 - Check scans and real-time lab communication 01:40:00 - Managing patient expectations and workflows 01:42:30 - Complex case treatment planning in stages 01:46:00 - Importance of mastering the basics 01:50:35 - Materials knowledge and reducing variables 01:54:00 - Continuous learning and accepting failures About Nikhil Sethi Nikhil Sethi is a restorative dentist and current president of the British Academy of Aesthetic Dentistry (BAAD). He practises at Square Mile Dental Centre in London with his brother Sanjay and colleague Amit, and runs a second practice in Essex. During the COVID lockdown, Nik founded Elevate, an education platform focused on teaching foundational principles in restorative dentistry through webinars and hands-on courses.

    1h 57m
  6. NOV 19

    #318 The Pivot — Randeep Singh Gill

    When a slipped disc ends your dental career at its peak, what comes next? Randeep Singh Gill's story isn't about endings—it's about radical reinvention.  A digital dentistry enthusiast whose career was built on precision and routine, Randeep found himself confronting an identity crisis when chronic neck pain forced him away from practice. But here's where it gets interesting: instead of retreating, he pivoted into the very thing he'd always loved but never pursued: technology.  Now he's building Dental CFO, an AI-powered platform designed to give practice owners something he believes they desperately lack: clarity. From workaholic associate to tech founder, Randeep's journey exposes the fragility of our professional identities and the transferable skills we don't realise we possess until we're forced to use them. In This Episode 00:04:10 - Why dentistry over computing 00:05:25 - Left hand, right hand 00:10:15 - Six-day weeks and holiday guilt 00:14:30 - When cutting down actually earned more 00:20:40 - Identity crisis and the grief of leaving 00:26:05 - Teaching himself AI and entrepreneurship 00:32:30 - The six-month online course 00:38:15 - Finding your niche: Cerec crowns and clarity 00:39:05 - Building Dental CFO for real-time intelligence 00:42:45 - Financial clarity as obsession 00:47:25 - LinkedIn and hundreds of conversations 01:03:30 - Blackbox thinking 01:13:30 - Mistakes in tech: ego and uncertainty 01:17:05 - Squad models and developer dynamics 01:20:10 - Missing the people and the routine 01:26:55 - AI anxiety and raising kids offline 01:29:40 - Competition nightmares in tech 01:35:00 - Fantasy dinner party 01:37:30 - Last days and legacy About Randeep Singh Gill Randeep qualified from King's College London in 2009 and spent over a decade as an associate, including 11.5 years at the same practice where he developed a passion for digital dentistry and same-day Cerec crowns. When a cervical disc injury cut his clinical career short, he retrained in AI and entrepreneurship, founding Dental CFO—a platform designed to give dental practice owners real-time financial intelligence and clarity.

    1h 40m
  7. NOV 12

    #317 Foundation Friends — Alisha Sagar and Natalie Gabrawi

    Best friends Alisha Sagar and Natalie Gabrawi met at King's dental school and have remained inseparable ever since. In this episode, they share their journey from different backgrounds—Alisha's upbringing in Zambia and Natalie's roots in a medical family—to navigating their foundation years together.  Their paths are diverging professionally, with Alisha drawn to implants and oral surgery, whilst Natalie gravitates towards restorative dentistry and aesthetics. Beyond clinical aspirations, they discuss work-life balance, the role of faith, and their commitment to giving back to communities that shaped them.  It's a candid conversation about early career decisions, the pressure to succeed, and the power of friendship in weathering the uncertainties of young professional life. In This Episode 00:02:10 - Meeting at King's 00:02:15 - Pre-dental school expectations 0 0:04:05 - Growing up in Zambia 00:07:10 - Coming from a medical family 00:12:30 - Different clinical interests emerge 00:15:25 - Specialising versus special interests 00:19:00 - Three-year career projections 00:26:50 - DCT plans and private practice 00:28:50 - Getting engaged during foundation year 00:34:20 - Work-life balance philosophies 00:44:00 - Entrepreneurial ambitions 00:50:00 - AI anxieties 00:57:25 - Faith and staying optimistic 01:02:10 - Darkest days in dentistry 01:03:50 - Blackbox thinking 01:07:10 - A smile transformation story 01:13:05 - Giving back financially 01:14:50 - Fantasy dinner party About Alisha Sagar and Natalie Gabrawi Alisha grew up in Zambia before moving to the UK for her A-levels and dental training at King's College London. Now completing her foundation year, she's discovered a passion for implants and oral surgery after shadowing clinicians in practice. She's recently engaged and balancing personal milestones with ambitious career plans that may one day lead her back to Zambia. Natalie comes from Derby and a family of doctors who actively discouraged her from following in their footsteps. After struggling with self-consciousness about her teeth as a child, she found her calling in dentistry. Now in her foundation year, she's drawn to restorative dentistry and is considering DCT training in the field, with aspirations towards full mouth rehabilitation work.

    1h 19m
5
out of 5
2 Ratings

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The Dental Leaders podcast takes you on a behind the scenes journey with emerging leaders in dentistry. Success leaves clues, and these conversations uncover the depth, detail, and backstory behind our guests. The show is hosted by dental entrepreneurs Payman Langroudi & Prav Solanki. Let the conversation flow. Find out more at https://www.dentalleaders.co.uk/

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