The People Teaching People Podcast

Tiana Fech

The People Teaching People Podcast is the place to talk about all things teaching and learning. Hosted by educator, course development consultant, lifelong learner, and mom of three, Tiana Fech, this podcast will dive into how education truly plays an important and integral role in all facets of our lives – how we work, do business, live, play, explore, and build relationships. Get curious and be inspired by personal reflections and conversations about the who, what, when, where, why, and how of teaching and learning in a world where there is always more to discover.

  1. 4d ago

    086: Ghosting: What Silence Teaches Us with Tiana Fech

    Have you ever had someone enthusiastically say yes to something, only to disappear when it was time to take the next step? In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, I’m getting into the Halloween spirit with a conversation about ghosting. Not the paranormal kind, although I do seem to have a few haunted Google Drive folders! Over the years, I’ve experienced ghosting in my consulting work and podcasting. I’ve had people reach out about working together, share their excitement about a project, and then disappear after we’ve started making plans. I’ve also had potential podcast guests enthusiastically accept an invitation, only to vanish somewhere between saying yes and booking a recording date. For me, these experiences have been more disappointing than frustrating. I get excited about possibilities, imagine what we might create together, and sometimes get my hopes up. When things quietly disappear, I’m left wondering what happened. But the more I’ve thought about ghosting, the more curious I’ve become about what happens on both sides of the silence. Why do people disappear? What assumptions do we make when someone doesn’t respond? When does ghosting genuinely matter, and when might we be better off simply letting it go? Through personal experiences and reflections on communication, expectations, relationships, and our very human tendency to overthink, I explore what ghosting can teach us about ourselves and how we interact with others. Because sometimes a little clarity can make a meaningful difference. Sometimes we need to give other people grace. And sometimes, we need to stop chasing ghosts.   Listen in as we talk about: 01:00 Ghosting in work and life 04:23 When silence leaves a gap 07:12 The assumptions we make 08:49 When ghosting really matters 11:04 Why people disappear 15:25 Sometimes clarity is kind 17:02 Ghosting – When it’s time to let go 20:51 What ghosting teaches us 23:57 Where might I be the ghost?   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course  NEW Workbook: Your Expertise Ready to Download – Turn what you know into an impactful downloadable resource   Podcast Episode Mentioned: Episode 84: What Our Friendships Teach Us with Tiana Fech   GHOSTING IN WORK AND LIFE Ghosting is something we often associate with dating, but it happens in all kinds of places, including friendships, professional relationships, networking, and our work. I’ve experienced it in my consulting business when potential clients have enthusiastically discussed projects and then disappeared just as things seemed to be moving forward. I’ve also had potential podcast guests happily accept an invitation and then vanish before we could schedule a recording. These experiences can be disappointing, particularly when I’ve already started imagining the possibilities, but they’ve also made me curious about why people disappear and what we can learn from those moments.   WHEN SILENCE LEAVES A GAP “Sometimes the story we create around silence becomes bigger than the silence itself.” One of the things I’ve noticed about ghosting is how quickly we can start filling in the blanks when someone doesn’t respond. A clear yes gives us direction, and so does a no. But silence leaves us wondering whether something changed, whether we misunderstood, or whether we said something wrong. The explanation may have very little to do with us, but when we don’t know what happened, it’s easy to create our own story about the silence.   THE ASSUMPTIONS WE MAKE  Ghosting can reveal a lot about the expectations we bring into our interactions with other people. We may assume that someone shares our communication habits or that an enthusiastic yes means something is definitely happening. But our communication norms aren’t universal. What feels like a long time to wait for one person might feel completely normal to someone else. Not every delayed response is ghosting, and sometimes getting curious about our own expectations can be just as useful as wondering why somebody else hasn’t responded.   WHEN GHOSTING REALLY MATTERS I think there is an important difference between someone not responding to an unsolicited invitation and someone disappearing after they’ve created an expectation or commitment. When another person has invested meaningful time, preparation, money, or emotional energy because of something we’ve agreed to, our communication can have a real impact. Following through, acknowledging someone’s efforts, or letting them know that plans have changed can help build trust. At the same time, silence isn’t always intentional or unkind, and there are situations where not responding is an appropriate boundary.   WHY PEOPLE DISAPPEAR There are probably more reasons people ghost than we realize. Sometimes life gets busy, messages get buried, priorities change, or someone simply forgets. Other times, people may feel uncomfortable saying no or worry about disappointing someone. Our increasingly asynchronous communication makes disappearing surprisingly easy. An unanswered email can sit in an inbox indefinitely, which would be a rather strange way to handle a face-to-face conversation! Sometimes what started as a simple delay turns into a haunted house of unanswered emails. The same interaction can also mean very different things to the two people involved. Something that feels like an exciting opportunity to one person might be just one of dozens of things the other person is managing. Remembering that difference can help us interpret someone’s silence a little more generously.   SOMETIMES CLARITY IS KIND One of the things these experiences have taught me is that I genuinely appreciate a clear no. I may be disappointed when a project doesn’t move forward or an opportunity doesn’t work out, but at least I know where things stand. Sometimes we avoid giving people an answer because we don’t want to hurt their feelings or aren’t sure what to say. But when someone is waiting because of an expectation we’ve created, even a simple response can make a meaningful difference. We don’t owe everyone a detailed explanation, and sometimes closure is something we can give ourselves.   GHOSTING – WHEN IT’S TIME TO LET GO Not every experience of ghosting deserves the same amount of attention. Someone doesn’t respond to a casual invitation, a potential podcast guest never sends recording dates, or that coffee we’ve been meaning to have never quite materializes. These things can be disappointing without needing to become something much bigger. I know I can be an overthinker, but not every unanswered message needs an investigation, and not every disappearing opportunity deserves more of our energy. Sometimes the healthiest thing we can do is let the ghost float away. This can also be true in our relationships. Messages go unanswered, friendships change, and people sometimes drift apart. Those experiences can hurt, but they don’t always mean someone has done something wrong. We can recognize when silence genuinely matters while also remembering that not every fading connection needs to become a story about our own worth.   WHAT GHOSTING TEACHES US So much of what we learn from one another happens through everyday experiences and relationships. Ghosting can teach us about the communication we value, what builds trust, where our boundaries are, and how we respond to uncertainty. I’ve learned that I appreciate people who close the loop, but I’ve also realized that my excitement about a possibility can make the disappointment feel bigger when it doesn’t work out. Sometimes these experiences reveal as much about our own expectations and reactions as they do about someone else’s behaviour. When someone disappears, we can follow up if it makes sense, particularly if we’re waiting for information that affects our time or commitments. But eventually, if we still don’t hear anything, we can recognize that we’ve done our part and put our energy somewhere else without needing to assume the worst.   WHERE MIGHT I BE THE GHOST? Perhaps one of the most useful questions we can ask ourselves is whether we’ve accidentally left someone else hanging. Have we forgotten to respond, missed a message, or promised to follow up on something that slipped our minds? None of us communicates perfectly, and sometimes we get things wrong. But we can come back, acknowledge what happened, and repair the interaction. Being human-centred isn’t about perfection. It’s about remembering that our choices affect other people and doing our best to show up with thoughtfulness, clarity, and care. There will always be unanswered messages, changing plans, and people who disappear from conversations. But we can be thoughtful about where we put our energy, when our communication matters, and when it’s time to let something go. Perhaps the biggest lesson is that not every ghost needs to be chased.

  2. Oct 6

    085: Creating a Life You’re Excited to Live with Jen Aitken

    What might happen if we stopped waiting for someday and started saying yes to a few more adventures along the way? In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, I sit down with Jen Aitken, a Calgary-based travel advisor, photographer, adventurer, and creator who believes that some of life’s biggest changes can begin with a very small side quest. Jen’s story is one of resilience. At four years old, she survived a devastating car accident that took the life of her father and left her needing to learn how to walk and talk again. Growing up, travel and adventure became an important part of her life, encouraged by her mom and strengthened through experiences that taught Jen to navigate the world with independence, curiosity, and a willingness to try new things. We talk about the trip to Antarctica that changed the direction of Jen’s work, her idea of using “side quests” as smaller steps toward bigger bucket-list dreams, and what she has discovered about herself by intentionally trying new experiences. Jen also shares how one spontaneous side quest introduced her to Rotary and an entirely new community of people who share many of her values. We also explore the online course and community Jen is creating for women who want to reconnect with themselves. Her own experiences have shown her that moving forward does not always require one enormous leap. Sometimes it begins by choosing something small, finding an adventure buddy, and simply giving yourself permission to try. This conversation is a reminder that learning about ourselves happens through living. Every new experience gives us information about what we enjoy, what matters to us, who we want beside us, and where we might want to go next. We do not have to have everything figured out before we begin. Sometimes the side quest is where we discover what the bigger adventure might become.   Listen in as we talk about: 01:00 Jen’s story  04:40 Growing up with resilience  08:28 Discovering a love of travel and adventure 10:18 A trip to Antarctica that changed everything 15:24 The power of a side quest 17:44 Learning through adventure 19:48 Finding community along the way 24:28 Staying open to unexpected adventures 25:57 Finding an adventure buddy 27:30 Turning experiences into something to share 29:40 The teacher who believed in Jen 31:25 The power to pivot 33:30 Forward momentum and continuing to learn   Connect with Jen: Website: https://navigatewithjen.ca/ Facebook: @NavigateWithJen  Instagram: @navigatewithjen LinkedIn: Jen Aitken Email: sidequest@navigatewithjen.ca     Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course  NEW Workbook: Your Expertise Ready to Download – Turn what you know into an impactful downloadable resource   GROWING UP WITH RESILIENCE Jen’s experience with resilience began much earlier than most. At four years old, she was involved in a car accident that took her father’s life and left her with significant injuries. As she recovered, she had to relearn how to walk and talk, navigate medical appointments, and learn to advocate for herself at a very young age. She also experienced bullying and often found herself interacting with adults rather than children her own age. Looking back, Jen sees how these experiences shaped her independence, self-reliance, and ability to communicate with people from many different walks of life. Resilience was not something Jen set out to develop. It grew through experiences that asked her, again and again, to figure out how to keep moving forward. DISCOVERING A LOVE OF TRAVEL AND ADVENTURE Jen credits much of her love of exploration to her mom. Growing up, the two of them travelled together, went on small adventures, and sometimes simply grabbed a map and figured out where they were going along the way. Her mom wanted Jen to experience the world, particularly after everything she had been through as a child. Those experiences gave Jen more than memories. They helped shape the curiosity, independence, and willingness to explore that continue to guide her today. Adventure does not always have to mean travelling across the world. For Jen, it can be as simple as going somewhere unfamiliar, trying something new, and being willing to see where the experience takes you.   A TRIP TO ANTARCTICA THAT CHANGED EVERYTHING Jen became a travel advisor in 2019, but a surprising opportunity in 2024 changed the way she thought about the work she wanted to do. After attending a travel industry conference, she unexpectedly won a trip to Antarctica. Seeing its enormous landscapes, watching penguins and other wildlife in their natural habitat, and experiencing a part of the world that relatively few people ever visit made Jen realize she wanted to help people do more than simply book vacations. She wanted to help them experience the places and adventures they had been dreaming about. Antarctica became a turning point that helped Jen focus her work on bucket-list and adventure travel and on helping people move their biggest dreams from “someday” into something they can actually begin planning.   THE POWER OF A SIDE QUEST Jen describes a side quest as one of the smaller adventures or steps that can move us toward a bigger goal, or what she calls a North Star. A dream like travelling to Japan might feel enormous, but the side quests could begin much closer to home: saving money, trying Japanese food, exploring activities connected to Japanese culture, or figuring out what you would most like to experience once you arrive. Those smaller steps make the bigger dream feel more approachable while giving us opportunities to learn what we actually enjoy. For Jen, side quests are not random distractions from the goal. They are building blocks that can help us gain confidence, learn more about ourselves, and move closer to something that once felt far away.   LEARNING THROUGH ADVENTURE Since intentionally bringing more side quests into her own life, Jen has tried everything from pickleball and sporting events to new social experiences and a 5K. Not every experience has become a new favourite, and that is part of the point. Trying something teaches us something. We learn what energizes us, what we do not enjoy, who we like spending time with, and what we might want to try next. Jen believes these experiences have helped her become more confident in who she is and happier in her life. We often think learning about ourselves requires deep reflection, but sometimes we learn simply by getting out into the world and giving something a try. FINDING COMMUNITY ALONG THE WAY One of Jen’s side quests began with scrolling through Eventbrite and choosing an event simply because she wanted to try something different. That decision eventually introduced her to Rotary, where she found a community of people who share her interest in volunteering, helping others, and contributing to something larger than themselves. Jen has since become a member and volunteered through the organization. The experience was an unexpected reminder that when we step outside of our usual routines, we do not know whose path we might cross or where a seemingly small decision might lead. Sometimes trying something new introduces us not only to a new experience, but also to people and communities we did not know we were missing.   STAYING OPEN TO UNEXPECTED ADVENTURES Not every side quest needs to be carefully planned. Jen also leaves room for the unexpected invitation, whether that means attending a hockey game, joining a friend on an adventure, or trying something she has never done before. Some experiences require preparation, while others simply require being willing to say yes when an opportunity appears. Jen’s completion of a 5K was particularly meaningful because being able to do it without pain became a celebration of how far she had come. Her approach is a reminder that adventure can look different for each of us. What matters is noticing the opportunities around us and occasionally giving ourselves permission to choose the experience instead of automatically saying no.   FINDING AN ADVENTURE BUDDY For someone who wants more fun, connection, or adventure in their life but does not know where to begin, Jen’s advice is wonderfully simple: ask a friend. Trying something unfamiliar can feel intimidating, particularly when we think we have to do it alone. An adventure buddy does not need to have everything figured out either. You can both be nervous and still try something together. Jen has discovered that many people around her are eager to join when she invites them along. Sometimes getting started does not require a detailed plan or enormous courage. It simply requires choosing one person, one experience, and one small first step. TURNING EXPERIENCES INTO SOMETHING TO SHARE Jen and I had the opportunity to work together through my Learning Lab Intensive to begin mapping out an online course based on the experiences and ideas she had already been living. What started as conversations, notes, and ideas gradually became something tangible. The course brings together two important parts of Jen’s work: helping women reconnect with themselves after experiences such as breakups, divorce, or burnout, and using side quests and travel as ways to begin moving toward something new. Jen sees those ideas as interconnected. A destination might be an actual place we want to visit, but it might also represent the person we are becoming. The steps along the way give us opportunities to explore our values, discover what matters to us, and intentionally create what comes next.   THE TEACHER WHO BELIEVED IN JEN When I asked Jen about a favourite teacher, she immediately thought of an English teacher who believed in her at a time wh

  3. Sep 22

    084: What Our Friendships Teach Us with Tiana Fech

    What have your friendships taught you about who you are? In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, I explore something we start learning about when we are very young and, apparently, never completely figure out: friendship. As a mom, I have watched our three boys navigate the highs, lows, misunderstandings, shifting friend groups, and questions of belonging that come with friendship. Their experiences have brought me back to my own childhood and teenage friendships, while also making me think about the relationships that are part of my life now at 48. Some friendships have known us almost our entire lives. Others find us because we happen to be in the same place at the same time. Some last for decades, while others belong to one meaningful season. There are friendships that make us feel deeply known and friendships that help us understand the difference between fitting in and truly belonging. Through stories of lifelong friends, parenting, marriage, changing friendships, a 30-year school reunion, and some of the people who have surprised me along the way, I reflect on what our friendships can teach us about connection, acceptance, growth, and ourselves. Because perhaps friendship is not something we ever finish learning. The people who walk beside us, whether for a lifetime or for one particular chapter, can all have something to teach us.   Listen in as we talk about: 01:00 Reflections on friendship 03:20 Friends who know our history 06:17 The seasons of friendship 08:55 The circles of friendship 13:29 When friendship hurts 15:33 The friend I want to be 17:06 Friendship can still surprise us 17:47 What our friendships teach us   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course  NEW Workbook: Your Expertise Ready to Download – Turn what you know into an impactful downloadable resource   FRIENDS WHO KNOW OUR HISTORY Some friendships hold an extraordinary amount of our history. These are the people who knew us before careers, marriage, children, and so many of the experiences that shaped who we are today. I have friendships that began at birth and in Grade 2, and decades later, these are still people I can talk to about almost anything. There is an ease that can come from being known by someone who already understands so much of your backstory. But shared history alone does not keep a lifelong friendship strong. People change, priorities shift, and we become different versions of ourselves over time. Maybe one of the gifts of a lasting friendship is having someone who remembers who we were while still making room for who we are becoming.   THE SEASONS OF FRIENDSHIP Many adult friendships begin because life puts us in the same place at the same time. We meet people through our children, work, volunteering, neighbourhoods, conferences, activities, shared interests, and all kinds of ordinary moments. Some of those friendships continue long after the thing that originally brought us together is gone, while others gradually become more distant. I used to think that if a friendship faded, it meant something had gone wrong. I don’t think I believe that anymore. Some people are incredibly important during a particular season of our lives, and a friendship does not have to last forever to have mattered. We can be grateful for the people who walked beside us for part of the journey, even when life eventually takes us in different directions.   THE CIRCLES OF FRIENDSHIP I have been thinking about friendship in circles. There are people in that very small inner circle who know almost everything about us, people we care deeply about but may not share every part of our lives with, and people in wider circles who still bring laughter, conversation, encouragement, ideas, or connection. One of the people in my innermost circle is my husband. After 21 years of marriage and raising three children together, we have shared so much life, but we are still two different people with our own interests, friendships, and things we enjoy separately. Closeness does not have to mean doing everything together or seeing everything in exactly the same way. I think some of my own uncertainty around friendship has come from expecting a relationship to be something it isn’t. Not every friend needs to hold the same place in our lives, and closeness is not always measured by how often we see or talk to someone. Returning to Pearson College for my 30-year reunion reminded me of that. After decades apart, there were friendships where the connection was still there almost immediately. Maybe part of understanding friendship as we get older is learning to appreciate people for the place they genuinely hold in our lives, rather than trying to pull every friendship into the innermost circle.   WHEN FRIENDSHIP HURTS Friendship can bring enormous joy and connection, but it can also hurt. There have been moments when I have felt left out, lonely, or unsure of where I belonged. Sometimes circumstances change. Sometimes values change. Sometimes the energy in a friendship shifts, and we feel it before we can even explain exactly what is different. Those experiences can make us pay attention to how we feel around other people. Do I feel accepted? Can I be myself? Am I always trying to fit in, or do I actually feel like I belong? For me, that difference has become increasingly important. I don’t want to have to perform friendship. I want relationships with enough acceptance underneath them that I can show up as myself, imperfections and all.   THE FRIEND I WANT TO BE  “Our friendships teach us what we value in our relationships, but they also teach us the kind of friend we want to be.” Maybe one of the biggest things friendship asks us to think about is the kind of friend we want to be. I want to be someone who celebrates my friends when they are not in the room, makes space at the table, shares opportunities, reaches out just because, checks in when things are hard, and is genuinely excited when something wonderful happens for someone else. I also want to be a friend who can say, “I got that wrong,” or “I’m sorry,” or “Tell me what I missed.” There is so much teaching and learning happening inside friendship as we learn to listen, communicate, repair, forgive, cheer one another on, ask for help, and sometimes let go. Our friendships can show us what we need from others, but they can also invite us to think more intentionally about what we offer in return.   FRIENDSHIPS CAN KEEP SURPRISING US Friendship is not something reserved for the people who have known us since childhood. Some of the wonderful people in my life today are people I could not possibly have known twenty or thirty years ago because our paths simply had not crossed yet. I have met people through work, conferences, workshops, community projects, and this podcast who have become meaningful parts of my life. I find something hopeful in remembering that there are still people we have not met yet. There are future conversations, coffees, projects, introductions, and unexpected connections ahead of us. Our friendship story is not finished.   WHAT FRIENDSHIPS TEACH US  Our friendships teach us about other people, but they also teach us about ourselves. They show us what we value, help us recognize what belonging feels like, reveal what we need, and invite us to consider how we show up for the people around us. They also remind us that a friendship can change without erasing what it once meant, and that someone does not need to be part of every chapter to have been an important part of our story. So when you think about the friendships that have shaped your own life, what have they taught you? Who has made you feel deeply known? Who walked beside you during a particular season? Who makes you laugh, challenges you, celebrates you, or simply makes you feel like you belong? And maybe most importantly, what kind of friend do you want to be?

  4. Sep 8

    083: Learning Through Doing, Creating and Collaborating with Dr. D’Andre Wilson-Ihejirika

    What becomes possible when people have the opportunity to bring who they are into their learning, apply what they know, and learn alongside others? In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, I sit down with Dr. D’Andre Wilson-Ihejirika, an innovator, educator, engineer, and social entrepreneur whose work brings together learning, equity, entrepreneurship, and community impact. D’Andre shares the journey that took her from studying and working in engineering to researching engineering education, leading community and workforce initiatives, and creating hands-on learning opportunities through BrainSTEM Alliance. She reflects on the power of experiential and project-based learning, the importance of giving people agency, and why learning with and from others can make trying something new feel more approachable. We also explore the inspiration behind Luminate Games and its first game, ChemiCutes, which turns the elements of the periodic table into collectible characters and chemistry concepts into an interactive adventure. D’Andre shares how her children helped spark the idea and why play can create meaningful opportunities for young people to explore, experiment, and learn. This conversation is a reminder that learning is not something we ever have to outgrow. It happens as we create, collaborate, lead, play, and make room for other people to discover what they are capable of. Whether we see ourselves as teachers or not, we are always learning from the people around us and they are learning from us too.   Listen in as we talk about: 01:00 D’Andre’s story 04:34 Building a multifaceted career 08:47 Turning experience into research 11:22 Bringing identity into learning 15:38 Turning knowledge into confidence 20:29 Why learning together helps 27:34 The magic of BrainSTEM Alliance 32:23 The learning power of play 40:38 Collaborating and innovating in Calgary 44:16 The art of great teaching 49:31 Creating opportunities for others 53:12 Always continuing to learn   Connect with D’Andre and learn more about the amazing things she is doing: LinkedIn:  Dr. D’Andre Wilson-Ihejirika LearningCITY Collective BrainSTEM Alliance Luminate Games Websites: LearningCITY Collective BrainSTEM Alliance Luminate Games Instagram:  BrainSTEM Alliance: @brainstemalliance LearningCITY Collective: @learningcitycollective Facebook: BrainSTEM Alliance: @BrainStemAlliance   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course  NEW Workbook: Your Expertise Ready to Download – Turn what you know into an impactful downloadable resource   BUILDING A MULTIFACETED CAREER D’Andre shares how a lifelong love of science and math led her from the Bahamas to Canada to study chemical engineering, beginning a career journey that would eventually expand into education, entrepreneurship, and community leadership. While studying engineering, she became involved in student clubs and STEM outreach, sparking an interest in designing programs that help young people explore science and technology. When she later moved to Fort McMurray and discovered there were few opportunities to continue that work, she created BrainSTEM Alliance and spent the next decade leading the organization alongside her engineering career. That experience opened the door to a PhD in engineering education and roles across higher education, nonprofits, workforce development, and adult learning. Although D’Andre’s path has taken her through different places, sectors, and roles, she sees the different parts as closely connected. What began as a way to continue her passion for STEM outreach alongside her engineering career gradually helped shape the work she does today.   TURNING EXPERIENCE INTO RESEARCH D’Andre shares how her own journey through engineering became the inspiration for her PhD in engineering education. Her experiences with student clubs, STEM outreach, and leadership led her to wonder how learning outside the classroom might influence the career pathways engineering graduates pursue. Her research explored the connection between undergraduate learning experiences, professional choices, and identity, with a particular focus on the experiences of Black engineering graduates and other underrepresented groups. As she led BrainSTEM Alliance and moved from technical engineering into higher education, D’Andre became increasingly curious about these questions and passionate about exploring them more deeply. With the support of her PhD supervisor who gave her the freedom to shape her research, the different pieces came together. For D’Andre, pursuing a PhD was an opportunity to better understand the experiences that had shaped her own learning and career while exploring whether others had been shaped by similar experiences.   BRINGING IDENTITY INTO LEARNING D’Andre shares how her research highlighted the influence of experiential and project-based learning on the skills engineering graduates develop and the career paths they pursue. In her study of Black engineering graduates, she found that many moved into “boundary-spanning” roles, such as project management or business analysis, that bring together technical knowledge and people-focused skills. Through her interviews, she also discovered that classroom and capstone projects gave students opportunities to bring their cultural identities into their engineering work. One graduate, for example, chose to focus a civil engineering project on bridge building in the Caribbean, creating a meaningful connection between their technical learning and cultural background. D’Andre saw how experiences like this could strengthen students’ sense of belonging in engineering while helping them develop a broader range of skills. It is something she now considers when designing programs, recognizing how important it is to give people agency in their project-based learning. When people can bring more of who they are into their work, it can change both how they experience the learning and where they imagine it might lead.   TURNING KNOWLEDGE INTO CONFIDENCE “When people are able to bring aspects of themselves into the work, it inspires learning and helps it resonate.” Across her work in post-secondary education, nonprofits, entrepreneurship, and community initiatives, D’Andre has seen how much more meaningful learning becomes when people can bring their identities, creativity, perspectives, and previous experiences into what they are doing. Through BrainSTEM Alliance and her own teaching, she creates opportunities for people to apply technical knowledge through projects and design challenges while having the freedom to shape the work in ways that matter to them. D’Andre’s own experience starting BrainSTEM Alliance also taught her skills she had never formally studied, including many of the principles of social entrepreneurship she now teaches. For her, learning through doing helps theoretical ideas resonate in a way that classroom instruction or a test alone cannot. Actually doing the work not only helps the learning sink in, but also gives people the confidence to know they can use what they have learned.   WHY LEARNING TOGETHER HELPS Although D’Andre genuinely loves learning and finds trying new things exciting, she recognizes that it can also feel uncomfortable and frustrating when understanding does not come easily. She reflects on subjects such as history, politics, and governance that did not interest her when she was younger but have become increasingly important in her work. Now that she can see how this knowledge applies to leading nonprofits and navigating different levels of government, she feels more invested in learning it. D’Andre also believes that learning with and from other people can make the discomfort more manageable. Learning alongside someone who is also figuring things out can make us feel less alone, while working with someone who has different knowledge and strengths creates opportunities to complement one another. For D’Andre, giving yourself grace, understanding why the learning matters, and finding people to learn alongside can make something unfamiliar feel far more approachable.   THE MAGIC OF BRAINSTEM ALLIANCE D’Andre describes BrainSTEM Alliance as a passion project that began with her desire to give back through STEM outreach while working as an engineer in Fort McMurray. When she discovered there were no local organizations offering the kind of programming she wanted to support, she connected with Girls Inc. of Northern Alberta and invited other women in engineering to join her. Today, BrainSTEM Alliance brings STEM professionals and community partners together to co-design hands-on learning experiences for young people. The volunteers, known as STEM Ambassadors, have opportunities to renew their own enthusiasm for STEM while developing skills in educational program design and delivery. Participants learn through the workshops, community partners learn through the collaborative design process, and every program takes on a different flavour as each ambassador brings their own interests and perspectives. From career panels and chemistry experiments to inviting high school girls to write letters to their younger selves, BrainSTEM Alliance creates opportunities for everyone involved to learn while doing and to have a lot of fun along the way.   THE LEARNING POWER OF PLAY D’Andre shares how her children’s love of science, coding, video games, and family board games inspired her newest venture, Luminate Games. Each of her three children contributed an idea, from chemistry and rocks and minerals to space, giving D’Andre an opportunity to build on the educational programming developed through BrainSTEM Alliance and transfo

  5. Jun 16

    082: Listening to and Learning from Student Voices with Tiana Fech

    What can students teach us about learning? As educators, parents, leaders, coaches, and mentors, we spend a lot of time thinking about how people learn. We design learning experiences. We create opportunities for growth. We look for ways to support, motivate, and engage others. But how often do we pause and ask learners themselves what learning actually feels like from their side of the experience? A few weeks ago, I had the opportunity to spend the morning with three Grade 7 classes at the Calgary French & International School as part of their DaVinci Days program. I was invited to introduce students to the world of podcasting, and as part of the session, I asked them to help me plan a future episode of The People Teaching People Podcast. The focus of that episode was a simple question: What can adults learn about teaching and learning from students? Their responses were thoughtful, honest, insightful, and sometimes surprising. As I read through them afterward, I realized the students weren’t simply answering questions about school. They were offering a window into what it feels like to be a learner today. They shared ideas about what helps them learn, what gets in the way, what they wish adults better understood, and what learning looks and feels like from their perspective. Some responses made me smile. Some made me pause. And – some reminded me of things that can be easy for adults to forget.   Listen in as we talk about: 02:27 Student voice and learning 05:25 Learning from student perspectives 07:20 Meaningful learning experiences  11:11 Understanding today’s students 15:05 Lessons beyond the classroom 17:42 Listening to student voices 19:31 Learning goes both ways 21:05 The wisdom of student voices 22:03 The power of connection   Learn more about the Canadian French & International School (CFIS):  Website: https://www.cfis.com/ LinkedIn: Calgary French & International School  Instagram: @yycfrench Facebook: @CalgaryFrenchandInternationalSchool   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course  NEW Workbook: Your Expertise Ready to Download – Turn what you know into an impactful downloadable resource   STUDENT VOICE AND LEARNING My visit to the Calgary French & International School’s DaVinci Days program was more than a conversation about podcasting. As part of the session, Grade 7 students helped plan this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast by sharing their thoughts on learning, school, and what they wish adults better understood about students today. Their honest and thoughtful responses offered a valuable window into the learner experience and set the stage for a conversation about teaching, learning, and the importance of listening to student voices. Sometimes the people closest to the learning experience have the most important perspectives to share.   LEARNING FROM STUDENT PERSPECTIVES The students’ responses were thoughtful, honest, insightful, and sometimes surprising. As I reflected on their comments afterward, I realized they were doing much more than answering questions about school. They were sharing their experiences, frustrations, hopes, observations, and ideas about learning. Some responses made me smile, some made me pause, and some reminded me of things that can be easy for adults to forget. Their reflections served as a powerful reminder that meaningful learning happens when we take the time to listen to perspectives that are different from our own. When we create space for people to share their experiences, we often discover there is just as much to learn as there is to teach.   MEANINGFUL LEARNING EXPERIENCES When students were asked what they would change about learning, a clear message emerged: they were not asking for less learning, they were asking for different learning. Many students spoke about wanting fewer tests, more projects, greater flexibility, and more opportunities for hands-on, interactive learning. They emphasized the importance of engaging with ideas through discussion, movement, creativity, and real-world application rather than simply listening or memorizing information. What stood out most was the thoughtfulness behind their suggestions. Students questioned whether grades and tests always reflect true understanding and highlighted the reality that learners have different strengths, needs, and ways of processing information. Rather than lowering expectations, they were encouraging adults to think more deeply about how learning happens and what helps it feel meaningful. Their responses serve as a reminder that engagement is not an extra feature of learning. It is often an essential part of it. The most powerful learning experiences are often those that create space for curiosity, participation, and diverse ways of demonstrating understanding.   UNDERSTANDING TODAY’S STUDENTS As I continued reading through the students’ responses, I realized they were trying to communicate something that extended far beyond classrooms, assignments, and grades. They wanted adults to understand their reality. Many spoke about growing up in a world shaped by social media, constant connectivity, changing expectations, and pressures that previous generations may not fully recognize. They reminded us that young people are navigating complex challenges, balancing academics, relationships, extracurricular commitments, mental health, and uncertainty about the future, all while trying to discover who they are. More than anything, the students expressed a desire to be seen and understood as individuals rather than assumptions. They wanted their experiences, emotions, and perspectives to be taken seriously and their voices to be heard before conclusions were made about them. Their reflections highlighted the importance of relationships, empathy, and taking the time to understand the person behind the learner. Whether in classrooms, families, workplaces, or communities, people thrive when they feel known, valued, and understood. Sometimes the most meaningful thing we can offer another person is not advice or solutions, but genuine understanding.   DESIGNING MEANINGFUL EXPERIENCES Joanna reflects on how creating the seamless Taste the City experience that people now enjoy actually began with plenty of trial and error. In the early days, timing issues, confused restaurants, and missed text messages made the experience feel far less polished than it does today. What stands out is the amount of care, learning, and intentionality that has gone into refining every detail over time. Joanna shares how important it is that guests feel guided, supported, and connected throughout the evening, not just through the food itself, but through thoughtful pacing, interactive elements, and small moments of surprise along the way. Rather than focusing only on logistics, Joanna and Melissa continue to think deeply about how people feel during the experience and how to make the night feel personal, engaging, and human. Their story is such a good reminder that meaningful experiences rarely begin perfectly, but they grow stronger through curiosity, listening, and a willingness to keep improving.     LESSONS BEYOND THE CLASSROOM “Learning and understanding are more important than grades.” ~ CFIS Grade 7 Student As I reflected on the students’ responses, I noticed that many of their ideas connected to themes that extend far beyond school. They spoke about growth, perspective, balance, well-being, and the importance of recognizing that people bring different strengths, experiences, and ways of seeing the world. Their comments highlighted a level of wisdom and self-awareness that many adults continue to explore throughout their lives, from focusing on personal growth rather than comparison to valuing understanding over grades and recognizing that intelligence takes many forms. The students also challenged adults to consider perspectives beyond their own. They reminded us that different experiences create different insights and that meaningful learning can happen in both directions when we are willing to listen. Their reflections reinforced the importance of balancing achievement with well-being and recognizing that success is about more than outcomes alone. Learning, growth, relationships, and mental health are deeply connected, and when one is overlooked, the others are affected as well. The most important lessons are often not about what we learn, but how we understand ourselves and others along the way.   LISTENING TO STUDENT VOICES A common message emerged from the students’ responses. They wanted learning to feel meaningful, engaging, and connected to their lives. They spoke about the value of creativity, interaction, and active participation, emphasizing that learning is most powerful when it captures curiosity and invites learners to be part of the experience. Their comments reinforced the idea that they were not asking adults to make learning easier. They were asking adults to make learning matter. At the heart of their responses was a deeper desire to be understood. The students spoke openly about the pressures they face, the complexity of growing up in today’s world, and the importance of having their experiences, perspectives, and emotions taken seriously. More than solutions or certainty, they seemed to be asking for adults to listen, to be curious, and to take the time to understand the people behind the learning. The students’ message was clear: understanding the person behind the learner matters just as much as the learning itself.   LEARNING GOES BOTH WAYS As I reflect on my morning at the Calgary French & International School, I can’t help but appreciate the full-circle nature of the experience. I arrived to talk about podcasting and invite

  6. Jun 2

    081: Building Taste the City Through Food, Friendship, and Community with Joanna Pariseau and Melissa Ninaber

    What if the best way to reconnect with your city, and each other, started with food? In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, I sit down with Joanna Pariseau and Melissa Ninaber, the co-founders behind Taste the City, the experiential food platform transforming how people explore local restaurants, neighborhoods, and human connection. Joanna and Melissa share the story of a friendship that began in grade one, the lessons they’ve learned building a business together, and how authenticity, storytelling, and community have become the foundation of their growth. From turning down a deal on Dragon’s Den to building a brand with millions of organic views, they open up about entrepreneurship, creativity, social media, resilience, and why being willing to look “cringe” might actually be the key to building something meaningful. This episode is a reminder that learning doesn’t only happen in classrooms. Sometimes it happens while walking through a city, sharing a meal, trying something new, or taking a chance on yourself before you feel ready.   Listen in as we talk about: 01:00 Joanna and Melissa’s story 04:00 Connection and community through food 09:12 Being kindred spirits since grade one! 13:15 The Taste the City experience 19:19 How Taste the City is so much more than just food 21:00 Technology with a human touch 24:10 Designing meaningful experiences 26:36 Why storytelling matters more than ever in business 34:49 Building relationships with restaurants and local communities 38:40 Learning from great teachers 42:27 The power of friendship in entrepreneurship 47:08 Why the best way to learn is simply to start   Connect with Joanna and Melissa and learn more about Taste the City: LinkedIn: Taste the City  Joanna Pariseau Melissa Ninaber Website: Taste the City https://www.tastethecity.ca/ Instagram:  Taste the City: @tastethecity__  Joanna Pariseau @thetastyceo Melissa Ninaber: @melissajoyliving Facebook: @tastethecityapp TikTok: @tastethecity__   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course  NEW Workbook: Your Expertise Ready to Download – Turn what you know into an impactful downloadable resource   CONNECTION AND COMMUNITY THROUGH FOOD Joanna and Melissa share how their passion for connection and community comes from very different experiences that ultimately meet around food. Joanna talks about studying urban spaces, digital technology, and sustainable tourism. She became fascinated by how experiences can transform spaces into places where people feel connected. Her travels in Italy and frustration trying to navigate local food culture on her own sparked the idea for Taste the City. It became a way to help people discover local restaurants and reconnect with their neighborhoods through guided food experiences. For Melissa, the inspiration is deeply personal. Growing up in a home where everyone was welcomed around the table, she saw firsthand how food could create comfort, belonging, and conversation across differences. Together, Melissa and Joanna have explored the beauty of using technology not to separate people, but to bring people face to face again. Through Taste the City, they help people explore their cities, support local businesses, and share meaningful experiences together. It is a reminder that even in a divided and busy world, simple human experiences, like sharing a meal, still have the power to bring people together.   BEING KINDRED SPIRITS SINCE GRADE ONE! Joanna and Melissa talk about the rare kind of friendship that begins in childhood and somehow keeps growing through every stage of life. Although Melissa moved away in grade two and they never lived in the same city again, they stayed connected as pen pals and remained close through the years. Their stories about childhood memories, shared humor, prank calls, music discoveries, and feeling a little different from everyone else paint such a vivid picture of the connection they formed from such a young age. What stands out most is how deeply rooted their friendship is in shared values, trust, and character alignment. Joanna shares that working together as co-founders felt less complicated because they already knew each other so well and genuinely wanted the best for one another. Their story is such a beautiful reminder that some friendships do not just stay with us through life, they continue to grow alongside us and can even become part of building something meaningful together.   HOW TASTE THE CITY IS SO MUCH MORE THAN JUST FOOD Joanna shares that Taste the City is about much more than discovering new restaurants. At the heart of the experience is a deeper desire to help people reconnect with their city and the neighborhoods around them. She talks about how walking between restaurants creates more vibrant and welcoming streets while encouraging people to slow down, explore, and notice places they may have otherwise passed by. What stands out is how intentionally the experience is designed, from supporting local businesses to motivating people to spend time downtown.. Joanna also reflects on how something as simple as a short walk between stops can support both connection and wellbeing. Experiences can help people feel more connected not only to one another, but also to the communities and spaces they live in.   TECHNOLOGY WITH A HUMAN TOUCH Joanna shares how Taste the City has expanded beyond Calgary and is now helping people explore communities across Canada, from Vancouver and Toronto to Victoria and Edmonton. What excites her most is the next phase of the business, which focuses on partnering with local food bloggers, influencers, and people who truly know the stories and hidden gems within their own cities. Rather than relying only on algorithms or generic recommendations, Joanna wants to create space for local voices and lived experience to guide people toward meaningful food experiences. She also talks about wanting technology to support human connection rather than replace it. While AI and tech can help with systems and operations, Joanna believes there is still something deeply important about real people sharing real experiences, stories, and recommendations. It is a reminder that even in a world filled with technology, people are still searching for experiences that feel personal, authentic, and human.   DESIGNING MEANINGFUL EXPERIENCES Joanna reflects on how creating the seamless Taste the City experience that people now enjoy actually began with plenty of trial and error. In the early days, timing issues, confused restaurants, and missed text messages made the experience feel far less polished than it does today. What stands out is the amount of care, learning, and intentionality that has gone into refining every detail over time. Joanna shares how important it is that guests feel guided, supported, and connected throughout the evening, not just through the food itself, but through thoughtful pacing, interactive elements, and small moments of surprise along the way. Rather than focusing only on logistics, Joanna and Melissa continue to think deeply about how people feel during the experience and how to make the night feel personal, engaging, and human. Their story is such a good reminder that meaningful experiences rarely begin perfectly, but they grow stronger through curiosity, listening, and a willingness to keep improving.   WHY STORYTELLING MATTERS MORE THAN EVER IN BUSINESS “Your story is the most important and the most interesting thing about your business.” – Melissa Ninaber Melissa and Joanna talk openly about what it really looks like to build a business online in today’s world. Melissa shares that while products and ideas matter, it is ultimately the story behind a business that draws people in and creates connection. She reflects on the importance of showing both the exciting moments and the messy parts of the journey, from failed videos and constant experimentation on social media to difficult business decisions like turning down a Dragons’ Den deal that did not align with their long-term vision. Joanna adds that building Taste the City through social media and content creation has pushed her far outside her comfort zone, especially as someone who never imagined becoming the public face of a business. Together, they speak honestly about the criticism that can come with putting yourself out there and the courage it takes to keep showing up anyway. What stands out most is their willingness to stay grounded in their values, trust their instincts, and keep learning as they go. Their story is such a powerful reminder that growth often begins the moment we stop worrying so much about what other people might think.   BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS WITH RESTAURANTS AND LOCAL COMMUNITIES Joanna shares that one of the biggest learning curves has been introducing a completely new concept to restaurants and helping them understand how Taste the City fits into what they already do. Early on, she discovered that how she described the business mattered just as much as the business itself. Over time, she learned how to communicate the value more clearly and build relationships that made it easy for restaurants to say yes. What stands out most is her willingness to experiment, adapt, and try new approaches as Taste the City expands into new communities. Whether she is refining her pitch, introducing restaurants to the concept in creative ways, or finding solutions when plans change, Joanna approaches each challenge with curiosity and a willingness to learn. Her experience is a reminder that strong partnerships are built through relationships, trust, and a genuine commitment to creating value for everyone involved.   LEARNING FROM GREAT TEACHERS When asked about teachers who

  7. May 19

    080: Questions Are Key to Meaningful Learning with Tiana Fech

    What’s a question that’s stayed with you longer than expected? In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, I explore the idea that questions are more than just part of conversation… They shape how we think, how we connect, and how we experience learning. From the questions we ask in the moment to the ones we design with intention, this episode is an invitation to notice the role questions are already playing in your work and your day-to-day interactions. Through reflections from my podcast, my time in the classroom, and my work at the ARIS Hub, I share how even small shifts in how we ask questions can create more space for thinking, connection, and understanding. Because sometimes, it’s not the answer that changes things… It’s the question.   Listen in as we talk about: 01:00 More than “just” questions 03:39 Designing questions in learning 05:07 The power of how we ask 07:35 Questions as listening 09:24 Curiosity in practice 10:18 Creating space for responses 11:52 When questions take time 13:35 Creating a space where questions are welcome 13:58 Questions beyond the classroom 17:17 A question to carry   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course    MORE THAN JUST QUESTIONS Questions are part of almost every interaction, but it’s easy to overlook just how much they’re shaping what’s happening beneath the surface. They don’t just move a conversation along. They guide attention, influence what people notice, and shape how understanding begins to take form. When you slow down and really look at them, you start to see that questions are doing far more than simply filling space. Shifting from thinking about questions as right or wrong to thinking about them as intentional or unintentional opens up a different way of approaching them. It invites you to consider not just what you’re asking, but how it’s landing and what it’s making possible for someone else. Even small shifts in that awareness can change how someone experiences learning.   DESIGNING QUESTIONS IN LEARNING Questions don’t always have to be created in the moment. They can be thoughtfully designed as part of a learning experience, helping to guide someone from where they are toward a deeper understanding. When there is a clear question at the centre, it gives direction. It creates a sense of purpose that helps everything else connect. From there, questions can build in a way that supports how people move through the learning. They help connect ideas, invite application, and create opportunities for people to make meaning in their own way. Instead of learning feeling like a series of disconnected pieces, it begins to feel like something that is unfolding. When questions are designed with intention, they help shift learning from something people receive into something they actively take part in.   THE POWER OF HOW WE ASK “Questions don’t just gather information. They shape how people feel in the learning and how deeply they engage with it.” The way a question is asked can completely change how it feels to respond. A small shift in wording can move something from feeling heavy or evaluative to something that feels open and supportive. These moments can seem subtle, but they have a real impact on how someone engages. Questions don’t just gather information. They shape how people feel in the moment and how willing they are to step into the learning. When a question is grounded in curiosity and care, it creates space for people to think out loud, to share ideas, and to stay engaged a little longer. The experience becomes less about getting it right and more about working through it.   QUESTIONS AS LISTENING There’s a connection between asking questions and truly listening. In podcast conversations, preparation matters, but it’s often the listening in the moment that shapes where the conversation goes. The questions asked ahead of time help create a starting point, but they aren’t meant to be followed exactly. What matters more is paying attention to what is being shared and allowing the next question to emerge from that place. That balance between structure and flexibility creates space for something more natural and meaningful to unfold. Questions become less about control and more about connection.   CURIOSITY IN PRACTICE This idea of questions shaping outcomes shows up beyond conversations. In the development of a student engagement framework at the ARIS Hub at SAIT (the Southern Alberta Institute of Technology), the starting point wasn’t answers, it was curiosity. Questions were used to understand experiences, challenges, and needs across different perspectives. What emerged from that process was something grounded in what people actually shared. It wasn’t built on assumptions, but on listening. As well, because the questions continue, the work continues to evolve. When curiosity leads, what is created stays connected to the people it is meant to support.   CREATING SPACE FOR RESPONSES Questions can help us understand learning as it’s happening, but how we invite responses matters. Not everyone feels comfortable speaking up in the same way, especially in larger group settings. When the only option is to respond out loud, some voices naturally stay quiet. Creating different ways for people to share their thinking can shift that dynamic. Simple approaches can lower the barrier to participation and make it easier for more people to engage. When that happens, learning becomes something shared rather than something performed, and you gain a clearer sense of where people are at along the way.   WHEN QUESTIONS TAKE TIME There’s often a tendency to ask a question and then move quickly to the next thing, but giving people a little more time can make a meaningful difference. That pause, often called “wait time”,  allows space for thinking, for processing, and for more thoughtful responses to emerge. Not all questions are meant to be answered right away. Some take time. They stay with people, resurface later, and connect to other ideas in ways that aren’t always immediate. When we allow for that, we begin to see that learning doesn’t stop when the moment ends. It continues beyond it.   CREATING A SPACE WHERE QUESTIONS ARE WELCOME For many people, asking a question can feel vulnerable. It requires a sense of safety and a feeling that it’s okay to not have everything figured out. Without that, questions often go unasked, even when others are wondering the same thing. When a space is created where questions are welcomed and not knowing is part of the process, something shifts. People begin to engage more openly, and the learning becomes something they move through together. Often, the question one person is hesitant to ask is the same one others are quietly holding.   QUESTIONS BEYOND THE CLASSROOM Questions don’t just belong in formal learning environments. They show up in everyday conversations, in how we support others, and in how we connect. The way we ask can shift a conversation from something transactional to something more thoughtful and engaging. A small change, like moving from checking for completion to inviting reflection, can open up new ways of thinking. In those everyday moments, questions don’t just move things forward. They shape how people see themselves and their role in what comes next.   A QUESTION TO CARRY “When questions are intentional, they don’t just move things along. They open things up.” As you think about your own work and interactions, this isn’t about asking more questions for the sake of it. It’s about noticing the ones that are already there and becoming a little more intentional with them. Questions have a way of opening things up, creating space for understanding, connection, and something new to emerge. And sometimes, one thoughtful question is enough to shift how someone experiences learning in a lasting way.

  8. May 5

    079: What Podcasting Teaches Us About Learning, Listening, and Human Connection with Kendall Breitman

    What if the most powerful way to learn… isn’t speaking, but listening? In this episode of The People Teaching People Podcast, I sit down with Kendall Breitman, Community Lead at Riverside, to explore how podcasting has become one of the most dynamic spaces for teaching, learning, and human connection. Kendall’s journey from political journalism to leading a global creator community offers a unique perspective on how we absorb information, share stories, and grow through conversation. From interviewing voters across the U.S. to now supporting thousands of creators, she has built her career around one core principle, learning begins with curiosity, and deepens through listening. This episode reframes podcasting as more than content creation. It’s a living classroom. It is a  space where ideas are exchanged, perspectives are challenged, and people evolve in real time. We explore how storytelling becomes a teaching tool, how community becomes a feedback loop for learning, and why the ability to truly listen is becoming one of the most valuable skills in a world full of noise.   Listen in as we talk about: 01:00 Kendall’s story 03:00 Finding the thread that connects us 07:00 From question to connection 10:00 Listening that leads to acton 16:18 Teaching creators through community at Riverside 20:14 Learning how to podcast 24:19 How experience changes things 26:20 Ways to grow a podcast 29:55 Using tools in new ways 35:10 How AI supports creators 37:49 Podcasting as a modern learning ecosystem 40:43 Learning through life changes 47:15 The impact of mentorship 49:38 Taking a chance on yourself 50:20 Leading with human connection   Connect with Kendall and learn more about Riverside: LinkedIn: Kendall Breitman Website: Riverside https://riverside.com/ Instagram: @riverside.fm Facebook: @riversidedotfm Facebook group: Conversation Creators by Riverside YouTube: Riverside   Connect with Tiana: Website: https://tianafech.com LinkedIn: Tiana Fech Instagram: @tianafech  Facebook: @tianafech  Book: Online Course Creation 101: A step-by-step guide to creating your first online course  NEW Workbook: Your Expertise Ready to Download – Turn what you know into an impactful downloadable resource   FINDING THE THREAD THAT CONNECTS US “How are we all connected? What common ground can we find?” Kendall reflects on her early days in journalism, where instead of focusing on what candidates were saying, she chose to spend time with the people in the crowd, asking what mattered to them and why they were there. Through those conversations, she began to notice something deeper. Even when people held different views, there was often a shared feeling underneath, whether it was hope, fear, or something in between. Her role became less about reporting isolated stories and more about noticing patterns, asking better questions, and finding the thread that connected them. That experience shaped how she understands people and storytelling today. It also grounded her in the idea that learning about others starts by being present, curious, and willing to look beyond the surface to see what we might have in common.   FROM QUESTION TO CONNECTION Kendall shares how her background in journalism and television shaped the way she approaches podcasting and community building today. From learning how to distill a story into just a few seconds of video, to understanding how to ask questions that invite both depth and clarity, those early experiences taught her how to hold someone’s attention while still honouring what matters. That same approach carries into how she builds community, where her focus is less about broadcasting and more about genuinely understanding people. She describes it almost like being back at a rally, moving through conversations with curiosity, asking what people care about, what drives them, and what they’re navigating. It’s a reminder that whether you’re creating content or building something with others, it starts by slowing down, asking thoughtful questions, and being willing to truly hear what comes back.   LISTENING THAT LEADS TO ACTION “Listening leads to understanding.” Kendall shares how listening within a community goes far beyond simply hearing what people say. For her, it is about understanding what is underneath the question, noticing what someone is really struggling with, and using that insight to respond in a meaningful way. Whether it is passing along feature requests, remembering who asked for what, or following up when something has been implemented, she sees listening as something active and ongoing. It is not just about gathering feedback, but about showing people that their voices matter and that what they share leads to real change. She also reflects on how easy it is for feedback to feel uncomfortable on both sides, yet when it is welcomed and applied, it builds trust, connection, and a sense of belonging. When people feel seen, heard, and respected, they do not just engage, they stay, contribute, and become part of something bigger.   TEACHING CREATORS THROUGH COMMUNITY AT RIVERSIDE Kendall describes her role as the Community Lead at Riverside as standing right in the middle, acting as a bridge between the people using the platform and the team building it. On one side, she helps creators understand the tools, offering guidance, education, and support so they can create something they are proud of. On the other, she brings their voices back to the product team, sharing feedback, identifying needs, and even connecting specific users to new features so what gets built is actually useful. At the heart of it, her work is about understanding people, what they are trying to create, what they struggle with, and what matters to them, and making sure that understanding shapes both the tools and the experience. It is a reminder that when you truly pay attention to the people you are serving, the work becomes less about delivering something and more about building it together.   LEARNING HOW TO PODCAST Kendall reflects on the reality that starting a podcast often comes with two very different kinds of challenges. On one side, there is the technical learning curve, figuring out equipment, setup, editing, and all the details that can feel overwhelming when you are new. On the other, and often even more present, is the vulnerability that comes with putting something out into the world. Questions start to surface around whether anyone will listen, whether you have something worth saying, and what it means for others to see and hear you. She shares that while some people lean more toward one side than the other, most experience a mix of both, and even as you gain skills, that sense of vulnerability does not completely disappear. What shifts over time is how you hold it, learning to give yourself a bit more grace and recognizing that the discomfort is part of the process. It is a reminder that growth rarely happens without a little uncertainty, and that showing up anyway is often where the real learning begins.   HOW EXPERIENCE CHANGES THINGS Kendall shares that while the technical side of podcasting tends to settle as people gain experience, the vulnerability side does not fully go away. As creators become more comfortable, they often build confidence in their voice and style, and the process begins to feel more natural. At the same time, that feeling of putting something out into the world, wondering how it will be received, and hoping it resonates with someone continues to be part of the experience. She notes that even seasoned podcasters still look for those moments of connection and validation, whether it is hearing from a listener or seeing the impact of their work in unexpected ways. Over time, it becomes less about eliminating the uncertainty and more about learning how to move forward with it, trusting that confidence can grow alongside it rather than replace it.   WAYS TO GROW A PODCAST Kendall shares that one of the most overlooked ways to grow a podcast is by being a guest on other shows, where listeners are already in the mindset of tuning in and are more open to discovering new voices. She contrasts this with social media, where it can be harder to move someone from scrolling to fully listening. She also highlights the value of using video, especially on YouTube, and thinking beyond just short clips or full episodes. By pulling out a focused, searchable segment from a conversation and shaping it around a clear question, creators can make their content easier to find and more engaging for new audiences. Her approach is less about doing more and more about being intentional with where and how your voice shows up, meeting people in spaces where they are already ready to listen.   USING TOOLS IN NEW WAYS Kendall expands the idea of what a platform like Riverside can be used for, moving beyond podcast recording into a wider space of creation, learning, and sharing. She describes how people are using it to build courses, capture coaching conversations, create thought leadership content, and gather authentic testimonials, all by repurposing real conversations into meaningful outputs. What stands out is how these tools lower the barrier for people who may not have technical expertise, making it easier to edit, refine, and share their ideas without needing to be an expert. When she talks about AI, she frames it not as a replacement for the creator, but as support, helping people bring their voice forward with more ease while still holding onto what makes their perspective unique. It becomes less about mastering every technical detail and more about having something to say and the confidence to share it, knowing there are tools that can help you along the way.   HOW AI SUPPORTS CREATORS Kendall shares how AI within Riverside is designed to make creating more accessible, not by replacing the creator, but by supporting them.

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The People Teaching People Podcast is the place to talk about all things teaching and learning. Hosted by educator, course development consultant, lifelong learner, and mom of three, Tiana Fech, this podcast will dive into how education truly plays an important and integral role in all facets of our lives – how we work, do business, live, play, explore, and build relationships. Get curious and be inspired by personal reflections and conversations about the who, what, when, where, why, and how of teaching and learning in a world where there is always more to discover.