The Gap Year Podcast

Michelle Dittmer
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Explore all things gap year through stories and anecdotes by gappers, families and experts. Fun to listen to but also jam-packed with tips and tricks for making the most of your gap year. No matter who you are or where you are on your gap year journey, you should be listening to the Gap Year Podcast! Although it is produced for Canadians, the content is universal.

  1. May 31

    ADULT GAP YEAR SERIES: When Hard Work Backfires: Reimagining Ambition with Chantaie Allick

    Michelle Dittmer spoke with Chantaie Allick of Rework about burnout, ambition, and creating a healthier relationship with work. Chantaie shared how her own burnout led to Rework’s mission: helping people pursue “ambition with ease” through rest, play, creativity, self-awareness, and self-compassion. Key Takeaways https://re-work.ca/ Follow Them on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reworkmovement Check them out on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/reworkmovement/ 👤Dr. Kristin Neff’s self-compassion resources: https://self-compassion.org 🤗Self-compassion break: https://self-compassion.org/category/exercises/#self-compassion-break 🧘Dr. Sandra Dalton-Smith’s rest quiz: https://restquiz.com   Connect With The Canadian Gap Year Association   Find more resources at the Can Gap website https://www.cangap.ca/ Follow on Instagram http://www.instagram.com/cangapassociation/ Follow on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/ucangap Follow on Twitter https://twitter.com/ucangap Follow on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuBit8gLXEOxaBggoGmykjQ

    34 min

  2. May 31

    ADULT GAP YEAR SERIES: Your Standing-Ovation-Worthy Second Act with Shannon Russell

    Michelle spoke with Shannon Russell about reinvention, especially for women navigating career and life transitions. Shannon shared her own path from 16 years in television production to entrepreneurship, coaching, and writing, and explained how to approach change as a purposeful “second act” rather than a loss. About Shannon Former television producer with a 16-year career in TV Transitioned after becoming a mom Founder of multiple businesses Author of Start Your Second Act Coaches women through career reinvention and entrepreneurship Main Themes Women often follow a “rules-based” path until life changes prompt reassessment Career shifts can happen after motherhood, caregiving, burnout, layoffs, or simple restlessness A non-linear path is not a failure — it’s a stepping stone Reframing change as a new chapter or second act helps reduce fear How to Know It’s Time for a Change Ask: Why am I considering this move? Identify what about the next step is exciting Notice whether your current role still aligns with your values, life stage, and needs Consider whether you’ll regret not making the change later Practical Advice Do your research before leaping Learn the actual day-to-day of a new role or business Talk to people in the field Understand the financial realities Keep early plans private until you feel confident Start small if needed — a second act does not have to be a giant leap Key Takeaway Shannon encouraged listeners to stop waiting for the perfect time and instead move forward with clarity, curiosity, and confidence. Small steps, thoughtful research, and staying connected to your “why” can help make a new chapter feel possible. Website 🎬 Second Act Success: https://secondactsuccess.co/   Connect With The Canadian Gap Year Association   Find more resources at the Can Gap website https://www.cangap.ca/ Follow on Instagram http://www.instagram.com/cangapassociation/ Follow on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/ucangap Follow on Twitter https://twitter.com/ucangap Follow on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuBit8gLXEOxaBggoGmykjQ

    23 min

  3. May 31

    ADULT GAP YEAR SERIES: Quit Work for a Year Without Quitting (The Deferred Salary Plan)

    Michelle spoke with John Cuddie, a retired HR professional with deep experience in school boards, about deferred salary leave plans — a structured way to save for a year off work. John shared how he used the program twice, what he did during his leaves, and why intentional pauses can be personally and professionally valuable. About John Spent 30+ years in HR with three school boards Later worked as an employment advisor helping new immigrants and youth Approves deferred salary leave plans as part of his HR background Took two deferred salary leaves himself What Is a Deferred Salary Leave? A leave of absence funded by saving part of your salary in advance Common structure: “four over five” Work 4 years at 80% pay 20% goes into a trust account Take the 5th year off using those savings Often includes pension/benefit considerations and a contractual return-to-work agreement What John Did on His Leaves First Leave Home projects: painting, purging, tidying Family travel to India and Dubai Trips with kids to Broadway/New York and a ski holiday Second Leave More household and personal tasks Significant time supporting a close friend going through cancer treatment Some travel as well Main Takeaways A year off can be invigorating It can also be humbling — work continues without you Time away helps people see they are not their job It creates balance and makes room for other forms of contribution What Holds People Back Financial concerns about living on reduced salary Uncertainty about what the future may hold over a 4–5 year planning period Family changes, life changes, and possible cancellation of plans Planning Considerations Budget carefully Think through staffing and who will cover your role Consider family and partner dynamics Balance practical tasks with rest, fun, travel, and connection Use the time to invest in what matters most Practical Advice/Next Steps for you Start by talking to your employer or boss Ask your payroll department about the details Review CRA guidance on tax implications Be ready to discuss staffing and return-to-work planning Connect With The Canadian Gap Year Association   Find more resources at the Can Gap website https://www.cangap.ca/ Follow on Instagram http://www.instagram.com/cangapassociation/ Follow on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/ucangap Follow on Twitter https://twitter.com/ucangap Follow on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuBit8gLXEOxaBggoGmykjQ

    31 min

  4. May 31

    ADULT GAP YEAR SERIES: The Courage to Change Your Path With Lori Stephenson

    Michelle spoke with Lori Stephenson, a career coach and leadership developer, about how to navigate life's transitions with curiosity and courage. Drawing on her own career pivot and years of coaching experience, Lori shared practical tools for self-reflection, reframing fear, and taking meaningful action toward change. About Lori Founder of My Big Sky — supports students, mid-career professionals, and those approaching retirement Background in leadership development, career coaching, and career transition Former communications and talent development professional at Accenture Coaches individuals on self-awareness, career direction, and how to lead others Key Themes Knowing Yourself Before Making a Move Lori encouraged people to dig into three core areas before pursuing change: Interests — what keeps showing up that you genuinely enjoy? Capabilities — what are you actually good at, separate from what you like? Environment — where do you thrive? Who do you need around you? Do you prefer collaboration or independence? Self-Reflection Questions to Get Started What were my peak moments over the last 10–15 years — what was I doing, who was I with? What energizes me? What do I dread? What do people continually thank me or recognize me for? How do I want to contribute? What am I putting off or waiting for — and do I really have to wait? Practical Tools Do a peaks and valleys exercise across your career Write everything down — get it out of your head and onto paper Use AI or psychometric tools to help spot patterns you might miss Look for non-negotiables — things you will never compromise on again Pick one small action, give it a deadline, and find someone to hold you accountable On Fear and Discomfort Lori referenced the work of Susan David (Emotional Agility): "Discomfort is the price of admission to a meaningful life." Fear is often a signal to pause and consider — not a reason to stop Challenge the stories you tell yourself about why change is impossible Be selective about whose input you take in — limiting perspectives often come from other people's fears, not yours Moving from Thinking to Action Stop waiting to have it all figured out Go from big thinking → distilled insights → one concrete step Connect with people in person — buy someone a coffee, ask questions, get out of your own world Ask yourself: If time, money, and approval weren't factors, what would I be doing? Lori's Personal Story After 10 years at Accenture, Lori felt misaligned and burned out. She proactively put herself on a restructuring list, took 12–18 months to recover and reflect, and used that time to discover her passion for career coaching. She describes it as one of her proudest decisions — and proof that you don't need to have the full plan before you take the first step. Resources ☀️ My Big Sky: https://www.mybigsky.ca/ 🧠Emotional Agility: https://www.susandavid.com/   Connect With The Canadian Gap Year Association   Find more resources at the Can Gap website https://www.cangap.ca/ Follow on Instagram http://www.instagram.com/cangapassociation/ Follow on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/ucangap Follow on Twitter https://twitter.com/ucangap Follow on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuBit8gLXEOxaBggoGmykjQ

    35 min

  5. May 31

    ADULT GAP YEAR SERIES: Matrescence Unpacked with Ashley Beatty

    Michelle spoke with Ashley Beatty, a matrescence educator and motherhood coach, about the profound and often unacknowledged transformation women go through when they become mothers. The conversation explored a practical framework — the Matrescence Matrix — to help mothers understand their changes and make decisions that truly reflect who they are now, not who they were before. About Ashley Trained Matrescence Educator Motherhood and Self-Development Coach 20 years in education Mom of two (ages 7 and 12) Works with women navigating the transitions of motherhood across all areas of life What is Matrescence? The transition to and through motherhood — similar to adolescence Not a one-time event — it is iterative and cyclical, recurring with each new stage of a child's development Universal to all mothers, but unique in how it is experiencedby each individual Largely undiscussed and unsupported, despite being a massive identity and life shift The Matrescence Matrix Developed by Nikki McCahon; visualized as a pie chart with 8 domains Domain What It Covers Physical Body changes through pregnancy, birth, and recovery Psychological Identity shifts, sense of self, emotional changes Social How "mom" is perceived and valued in your social circles Cultural Broader societal views and expectations of motherhood Relationships Changes to partnerships, friendships, and family dynamics Career Shifting priorities, career interruptions, work-life alignment Spiritual Legacy, values, religion, purpose Economic Financial impact of maternity leave, career pauses, childcare costs How to Use the Matrix Map your changes — on the pie chart, mark how much you've shifted in each domain (outer edge = most change, center = least) Identify what feels "prickly" — those areas likely signal a misalignment with your current values Explore your values — acknowledge that values shift through motherhood and that's okay Make decisions from that place — rather than defaulting to pre-motherhood expectations or external pressure Key Themes Duality is valid — "I want to grow my business AND be present with my kids" — both can be true Matrescence is cyclical — hard seasons are followed by growth; decisions made now don't have to be permanent Shame and guilt often stem from unacknowledged changes rubbing up against outdated expectations You can't "have it all" in every season — the matrix helps prioritize what matters right now Resources & Links 🌐 Website: https://www.ashleybeatty.ca 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashley-beatty-24095239/ 📸 Instagram: @ashleybcoach 🤰Matrescence Expert: https://www.nikkimccahon.com/ 🤰Fishtank of Motherhood: https://drsophiebrock.com/thefishtankofmotherhood   Connect With The Canadian Gap Year Association   Find more resources at the Can Gap website https://www.cangap.ca/ Follow on Instagram http://www.instagram.com/cangapassociation/ Follow on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/ucangap Follow on Twitter https://twitter.com/ucangap Follow on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuBit8gLXEOxaBggoGmykjQ

    30 min

  6. May 31

    ADULT GAP YEAR SERIES: The Non-Linear Path that Leads to Happiness with Carli Fink

    Michelle spoke with Carli Fink, a certified career development practitioner, about the realities of non-linear careers, why people still idealize linear ones, and how to make smart, strategic career transitions. The conversation also made a compelling case for adult gap years as a tool for career exploration and self-discovery. About Carli Certified Career Development Practitioner Runs Foreseeable Futures — a career counseling practice focused on non-linear careers Also works part-time for a consulting company and teaches career classes at a university Originally trained as a K-12 teacher; her own career has spanned student life, academic advising, career counselling, and workforce development Benefits of a Non-Linear Career Personal fulfillment — careers that served you at 25 may not serve you at 45; transitions allow you to meet evolving needs Resilience and adaptability — diverse experience protects against labor market shocks Transferable skills — the same advice we give young people (keep doors open, diversify experience) applies throughout your entire career It's Not Too Late — Reframing Career Age Working lives are getting longer (many now work into their 70s) Someone in their late 30s may have 30+ more years of working life ahead At that stage, you've barely entered the "adult chapter" of your career Key message: Dreams don't have deadlines Signs It May Be Time to Consider a Career Change Consistently leaving work feeling drained and depleted Noticing systematic issues with the industry or profession, not just a temporary rough patch Feeling disengaged or going through the motions for an extended period Dissatisfaction that isn't resolved by seasonal changes or minor adjustments Best Practices for Making a Career Transition 1. Diagnose the Problem Correctly Track when feelings of frustration or disengagement arise Is it specific tasks? Certain people? Structural conditions of the industry? Fixing the wrong problem leads to the same dissatisfaction in a new role 2. Prototype in Low-Cost, Low-Risk Ways Talk to people working in fields you're considering Read or listen to content from people in those fields Volunteer, take a course, or build a personal project to test competencies Explore before making a full leap The Adult Gap Year Connection An adult gap year is essentially an extended prototyping opportunity Provides time and space for self-exploration that full-time employment rarely allows Can be used to: Explore new career paths Develop new competencies Test interests in a hands-on way Return to a former employer with clarity — or transition into something new Organizational sabbaticals, extended leave, or deferred pay plans can all create this opportunity Key Quotes "It's hard to fix the problem if you don't know what it is." "You can prototype things before you actually jump in a big way." "Working lives are getting longer — you may be much younger in your career than you realize." Resources & Links 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carlifink/ 🌐 Website: https://www.foreseeablefutures.ca/ Takeaway Non-linear careers are not a consolation prize — they are an adaptive, fulfilling, and increasingly strategic way to navigate a changing world of work. Whether you're 28 or 58, it is never too late to reconsider your path, and an adult gap year can be a powerful tool to make that transition thoughtfully and intentionally. Connect With The Canadian Gap Year Association   Find more resources at the Can Gap website https://www.cangap.ca/ Follow on Instagram http://www.instagram.com/cangapassociation/ Follow on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/ucangap Follow on Twitter https://twitter.com/ucangap Follow on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuBit8gLXEOxaBggoGmykjQ

    28 min

  7. May 31

    ADULT GAP YEAR SERIES: Wanderlust: Family Edition with Charles Achampong

    Charles Achampong joined Michelle to share the story of how his family took a year-long trip around the world. What began as a seed of an idea on his honeymoon in Rio de Janeiro became a 10-year plan that ultimately transformed his family's relationships, perspectives, and approach to life. About Charles Husband and father of two girls (ages 9 and 12) 20+ years across public, private, non-profit, and philanthropic sectors Focuses on helping communities solve complex problems Now speaks and writes about the power of pausing and intentional living Author of Around the World in Family Days How It Started His wife planted the seed on their honeymoon — a dream to take their future family around the world Became a 10-year financial and logistical plan The pandemic reinforced their decision — life is short, and waiting isn't guaranteed Originally planned as an African safari for her 40th birthday; evolved into a full world trip Key Barriers They Faced Financial fear — shifting from scarcity mindset to values-based decision making Logistics overwhelm — schooling, travel routes, work; most were solvable Illusion of readiness — there is no perfect moment; you have to interrupt life yourself Identity — letting go of titles, productivity, and career momentum Execution reality — fatigue, missed flights, sibling arguments; growth comes from friction Values-Based Decision Making Most pre-trip decisions were default decisions, not deliberate ones The gap year forced the question: What do we value enough to reorganize our lives around? Key family values identified: Quality time together before kids become teenagers Exposing children to the world beyond the classroom Living in alignment, not just in stability Practical exercise suggested: Review your last 3 months of calendar — where is your time going? Review your last 3 months of bank/credit card statements — where is your money going? Do these reflect your actual values? Advice for Others "Don't wait until life forces you to pause — practice choosing a pause intentionally." You don't need a full year; even micro-sabbaticals create meaningful disruption The goal is disruption of routine, not just duration Get honest about what's really holding you back — it's usually fear, not logistics Involve your kids (or family) in the planning process Resources & Links 🌐 Website: https://www.charlesachampong.com/ 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlesachampong/ 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aroundtheworldinfamilydays/ 📖 Book: Around the World in Family Days: What We Learned When We Left It All Behind and Traveled the Globe Connect With The Canadian Gap Year Association   Find more resources at the Can Gap website https://www.cangap.ca/ Follow on Instagram http://www.instagram.com/cangapassociation/ Follow on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/ucangap Follow on Twitter https://twitter.com/ucangap Follow on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuBit8gLXEOxaBggoGmykjQ

    36 min

  8. May 31

    Gapforce: From Marine Conservation to Game Ranger Training

    Michelle spoke with two Gapforce representatives about gap year options centered on marine conservation and game ranger training. The conversation covered how the programs work, the support Gapforce provides before and during travel, and the personal and professional value of gaining conservation experience abroad. Key Points Gapforce is a UK-based gap year provider operating since 1989. Krista is a program advisor based in New York and supports North American applicants. Eve completed Gapforce’s South Africa game ranger course and now works in operations. Programs Discussed Marine Conservation Offered in Thailand and Costa Rica Participants join ongoing research projects Certifications mentioned: PADI scuba certifications SSI / RAID dive training Dive Master opportunities Dive Instructor pathway in Costa Rica Game Ranger Course Based near Port Elizabeth, South Africa 8-week immersive course living on a reserve Leads to Field Guide Association of Southern Africa (FGASA) Level 1 qualification Includes conservation work, wildlife learning, and reserve management knowledge Shorter 2–4 week volunteer options are also available Support Offered by Gapforce Info calls with Krista Pre-departure portal Document and packing support WhatsApp groups before departure Ongoing communication while participants are abroad Check-ins after the program ends Main Themes Conservation work gives participants a chance to contribute to long-term projects Hands-on experience is more meaningful than “symbolic” volunteering Programs build: confidence adaptability cultural exchange practical skills resume value Advice Shared Eve: “Don’t panic.” Krista: "Be adaptable and go in with an open mind."   Gapforce: https://gapforce.org/ GameRanger Program: https://gapforce.org/trips/south-africa-game-ranger Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gapforce   Connect With The Canadian Gap Year Association   Find more resources at the Can Gap website https://www.cangap.ca/ Follow on Instagram http://www.instagram.com/cangapassociation/ Follow on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/ucangap Follow on Twitter https://twitter.com/ucangap Follow on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuBit8gLXEOxaBggoGmykjQ

    34 min
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Explore all things gap year through stories and anecdotes by gappers, families and experts. Fun to listen to but also jam-packed with tips and tricks for making the most of your gap year. No matter who you are or where you are on your gap year journey, you should be listening to the Gap Year Podcast! Although it is produced for Canadians, the content is universal.

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  • Creator
    Michelle Dittmer
  • Years Active
    2020 - 2026
  • Episodes
    100
  • Rating
    Clean
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    The Gap Year Podcast