Real Estate Capital

Nancy Lashine

Real Estate Capital offers candid, one-on-one conversations with some of the most influential people in commercial real estate. Hosted by Nancy Lashine, Founder of Park Madison Partners, the show focuses on real estate investment and capital formation, with in-depth perspectives from some of the most respected decision makers in the institutional real estate community. You’ll learn about successful transactions, investment philosophies, innovative business strategies, real estate operations and technology, and the personal characteristics and skills that have propelled these individuals in their careers.

  1. 3d ago

    Elizabeth Bell | Hamilton Lane’s Managing Director and Co-Head of Real Estate

    Elizabeth Bell of Hamilton Lane explains how LPs evaluate managers and find opportunity in GP recaps and operator-led deals. Elizabeth Bell, Hamilton Lane’s Principal of Real Estate Assets, joins Nancy Lashine to share how her emerging markets background shapes her approach to LP investing.  Elizabeth’s team puts roughly $2.5 billion to $3 billion to work each year, more than 90% of it on a discretionary basis. She says that today the market is much more operator-centric than it has been in the past, which informs the way her team constructs portfolios today.  [00:18:40] “You’re going to make money in today’s market by working with the operators that know how to drive NOI at the asset. It's not a sector allocation game. It's an asset selection game.” That view shapes her appetite for GP recaps, where the operator stays in place and the seller needs liquidity.  Drawing on her years on the GP side, Elizabeth explains how she judges managers beyond performance, from team turnover to decisions made at exit. She also shares the thinking behind some of her strongest investment decisions to date: [00:53:23] “I think honestly the best decision is purposely pausing and not taking action. And I think that is so hard. I'm inclined to action. . . . but there are points where you should pause, evaluate, slow down. . . . meddling sometimes creates more problems.” Elizabeth also outlines how she would launch a fund today: start small with people she trusts and build a track record over time. Links Elizabeth Bell | LinkedIn Hamilton Lane | Website

  2. Oct 7

    Alicia Glen | MSquared's Founder and Managing Principal

    Alicia Glen of MSquared explains how she structured capital stacks and self-funded a platform to scale past founder dependency. Alicia Glen, Founder and Managing Principal of MSquared, returns to catch Nancy Lashine up on her progress building one of real estate's most ambitious affordable housing platforms. Since their conversation in 2024, MSquared has grown to 14 projects across nine states, backed by two funds and a fast-growing base of institutional investors. That growth has taken MSquared into places most developers overlook, including red states like Indiana. Alicia explains why local leaders there are often more pragmatic about mixed income housing than national politics would suggest. [14:28] "It doesn't even matter whether you're a Republican or Democrat. . . It’s really about trying to find that counterparty who wants to be part of the solution and then making sure that actually the math works." She also walks through how her firm makes mixed income housing viable, from tax exemptions in Dallas to GSE products built for mixed income deals. Alicia is candid about the fundraising gap she faced as a woman starting her own platform, even with three decades of experience spanning Goldman Sachs and City Hall: [56:08] "I really thought, naively, with my resume and my background, even during COVID, I would be able to raise a ton of money really quickly. . . . If I were a boy, it would have been completely different. And I will stick by that till the end of my days." Alicia also weighs in on Mayor Mamdani's housing plan and why she's bullish on New York and Los Angeles despite the headlines. She closes with what it will take for MSquared to outlast her. Links Alicia Glen | Real Estate Capital (2024) Alicia Glen | LinkedIn MSquared | Website

  3. Sep 23

    Larissa Herczeg | 1 Seed Partners' Founder and Managing Partner

    Larissa Herczeg breaks down GP stakes, seeding strategy and building durable real estate partnerships. Larissa Herczeg, Founder and Managing Partner of 1 Seed Partners, joins Nancy Lashine to trace her path from corporate law to building one of real estate's leading GP seeding platforms. Larissa walks through how her firm structures deals, preferring revenue participation over full ownership, and explains why patience and discretion matter more than chasing whatever property type is hot. She's direct about why she avoids partnerships with new groups: [17:46] "Partnerships are loveless, sexless marriages where all you do is talk about money and your children. We like a partnership that's been tested for at least ten years, because it's hard." She's equally blunt about the fee math that many founders get wrong: [35:10] "It constantly baffles me that people will turn away capital because the fee's too low. So instead you're going to make one and a half percent on zero. Somehow that's better than making one percent on $200 million." Larissa also shares how she left Oak Street for Blue Owl before founding 1 Seed Partners in 2024. She points out what she looks for in the operators she seeds and why emerging managers and mega funds each bring real advantages to the table. Larissa closes with her take on how the GP stakes space has evolved since 2016, from a niche few understood to one of the hottest corners of real estate capital markets. Links Larissa Herczeg | LinkedIn 1 Seed Partners | Website

  4. Aug 19

    Christopher Merrill | Harrison Street Asset Management's Co-Founder & Global CEO

    Christopher Merrill shares the strategy that scaled Harrison Street to $109 billion in assets under management. Christopher Merrill, co-founder and global CEO of Harrison Street Asset Management, joins Nancy Lashine to discuss building one of the world’s largest alternative asset investment firms.  Since founding Harrison Street in 2005, Chris has helped grow the firm to $109 billion in assets under management (AUM) across real estate, infrastructure and private credit. Chris traces the firm’s strategy back to his early experience investing in central Europe, where he learned the value of pursuing fragmented markets and building strong teams. That experience shaped a principle that continues to guide Harrison Street’s relationships:  [00:06:38] “If you get alignment of interest right, it works.” Chris shares Harrison Street’s early focus on student housing, senior housing, medical office and self-storage, and how local operating partnerships have helped the firm build scale in these sectors.  Chris also explains why deeper relationships with universities and health systems are creating new opportunities across real estate and infrastructure. As more capital enters alternative real estate, experience becomes increasingly important to identifying risk. [00:31:23] “No one likes to talk about their mistakes. I do. I try and bring them up a lot of times with investors and say "We've made mistakes in these sectors, and I think those scars are making us stronger.” Across each stage of Harrison Street’s growth, a truth has emerged: scale creates the most value when it strengthens alignment, creates experts and preserves investment discipline.  Resources Christopher Merrill | LinkedIn Harrison Street | Website

  5. Jul 22

    Michelle Kleger | Kensington Vanguard's Managing Director of Business Development

    Kensington Vanguard’s Michelle Kleger shares how relationships, consistency and follow-through fuel successful careers in real estate. Michelle Kleger is an expert relationship-builder. She joins Nancy Lashine in this episode to share her unconventional path from hospitality into real estate and practical advice on mentorship, follow-up and building a long-term career. Michelle works in business development, where she brings in clients and shepherds their deals through closing. In the title industry, you can’t compete on price because it’s state-regulated. So, Michelle has built a franchise on relationships and trust. She did it by spending years meeting people over breakfast, lunch and drinks with one goal: getting to know them.  [00:07:35] “I was talking about the business probably zero. I was developing relationships with people.” Michelle’s love of people has helped her develop lasting relationships across the industry that continue to drive deals and open doors for her today. The conversation also explores commercial title insurance, business development, networking systems and the habits that keep relationships active over time. Michelle also shares about founding Girl Gang CRE in 2017, a community of more than 3,500 women in commercial real estate. [00:24:18] “The one thing I’ve learned from being at the same company for 10 years is the power of relationships.” Michelle highlights how the strongest competitive advantages in commercial real estate are the relationships you build and the value you create before anyone asks for it. Links Michelle Kleger | LinkedIn Kensington Vanguard National Land Services | Website Girl Gang CRE | Website

  6. Jul 8

    2026 Midyear Outlook | Park Madison Partners Executive Committee

    Park Madison’s executive committee revisits its 2026 predictions and examines the trends shaping real estate for the rest of the year. Park Madison’s executive committee, Rob Kohn, Carrie Coulson, Jack Koch, Brian Di Salvo and John Sweeney, joins Nancy Lashine for a mid-year assessment of the firm's 2026 Outlook. The group examines which themes have played out as expected, where market conditions have shifted and what investors should watch during the second half of 2026. The discussion covers interest rates, fundraising, transaction volumes and the continued importance of distributions as institutional investors gradually return to the market.  [00:12:43, Carrie] “There’s a lot more scrutiny on how managers are actually creating value. . . . not just ‘Here’s my track record, here are my returns.’” That scrutiny extends to different asset classes as well. The team talks about why niche operating strategies continue to attract capital, how data centers are navigating growing pushback and why industrial assets with access to power are becoming increasingly valuable. They also question how immune the real estate industry is to developments in AI, especially given that people will always need a place to live, work and play. [00:17:50, Jack] “I do think just generally as an asset class, there is some protection given that we’re humans and we always physically need those three things.” The conversation reinforces that patient capital and operational expertise continue to separate durable investment strategies from opportunistic ones. Resources Park Madison Partners' website 2026 Outlook report

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Real Estate Capital offers candid, one-on-one conversations with some of the most influential people in commercial real estate. Hosted by Nancy Lashine, Founder of Park Madison Partners, the show focuses on real estate investment and capital formation, with in-depth perspectives from some of the most respected decision makers in the institutional real estate community. You’ll learn about successful transactions, investment philosophies, innovative business strategies, real estate operations and technology, and the personal characteristics and skills that have propelled these individuals in their careers.

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