TellyCast: The content industry podcast

Justin Crosby

TellyCast is the leading podcast exploring the future of television, YouTube, the creator economy and digital-first production. Hosted by Justin Crosby, each episode features conversations with the people shaping the future of content. 🎧 New episodes every week.

  1. Sep 10 ·  Video

    Jungle Creations: how social brands become real world businesses

    Jungle Creations built an audience of 145 million followers across a portfolio of social-first media brands. The harder question, and the one Siobhan McDade has spent the past few years answering, is what you do with that audience once the platforms stop paying for it. Siobhan is Chief Publishing Officer at Jungle Creations, the London business behind Twisted, VT, Four Nine, Level Fitness and, most recently, Sporf. She joins Justin Crosby to explain how the company reduced its dependence on platform revenue, why publishing revenue grew 32% year on year, and how a viral PepsiCo recipe video turned into a retail product that has sold more than a million units. The conversation covers the strategy Jungle calls URL to IRL: Twisted now operates more than 130 delivery-only restaurants, a cookbook, supermarket ranges and pop-ups, and the new Twisted Labs division has formalised the route from social hit to physical product. McDade argues that the threshold for taking a brand into the real world has nothing to do with follower count and everything to do with the depth of the community behind it. www.Vuulr.com Sign up for The Drop newsletter Enrol on the TellyCast Digital Bootcamp Buy tickets for the Digital Content Forum Subscribe to the TellyCast YouTube channel for exclusive TV industry videos Follow us on LinkedIn Connect with Justin on LinkedIN TellyCast videos on YouTube TellyCast website TellyCast insta TellyCast Twitter TellyCast TikTok

    Jungle Creations: how social brands become real world businesses
  2. Sep 3 ·  Video

    Andy Wilman on Rebooting The Grand Tour

    This week Justin Crosby is joined by Andy Wilman, the producer behind Top Gear, The Grand Tour and Clarkson's Farm, for a conversation about handing the format to a new generation. The Grand Tour returns to Prime Video on 4 September with a presenting trio built from digital-first talent: Thomas Holland and James Engelsman of the YouTube channel Throttle House, and trainspotter and qualified mechanical engineer Francis Bourgeois. Wilman talks through the casting logic that ruled out famous faces, the mechanics of testing on-screen chemistry before a series is greenlit, and why he believes the format's biggest moments were never planned, only discovered. He also reflects candidly on the show's origins as a rushed response to a punishing Amazon contract, the eye-watering costs behind its biggest stunts, and why he now sits as a consultant rather than the hands-on producer he was for two decades. The conversation closes with a look at Clarkson's Farm's demanding edit process, and a wider question for the industry: would Top Gear have worked as a YouTube-native show, or did it need the BBC to kick against? Plus this week's Story of the Week, Hero of the Week, and Get in the Bin. 00:00 Introduction and welcome01:00 Casting the new presenting trio06:00 Why chemistry with the audience can't be faked17:00 The chaotic origins of The Grand Tour format22:00 Wilman's role as consultant, not "brains behind"35:00 Budgets, crew growth and the cost of the format's biggest stunts37:00 Clarkson's Farm and why its edit is harder than The Grand Tour's48:00 Would Top Gear have worked as a YouTube show?54:00 Story of the Week, Hero of the Week, Get in the Bin www.Vuulr.com Sign up for The Drop newsletter Enrol on the TellyCast Digital Bootcamp Buy tickets for the Digital Content Forum Subscribe to the TellyCast YouTube channel for exclusive TV industry videos Follow us on LinkedIn Connect with Justin on LinkedIN TellyCast videos on YouTube TellyCast website TellyCast insta TellyCast Twitter TellyCast TikTok

    Andy Wilman on Rebooting The Grand Tour
  3. Aug 27

    Factual Futures: Who Owns the Audience?

    Is uploading a documentary to YouTube really a route to serious money? At the TellyCast Digital Content Forum 2025, Lucy Smith (Fawkes Digital) chairs a panel of factual specialists working across the creator economy: Gerrit Kemming (founder and MD, Quintus Studios), Marvin Benoit (founder, Baker's Dozen Studios, former commissioning editor at Sky Originals and creative executive at YouTube Originals) and Jamie MacDonald (head of originals, After Party Studios). The panel gets into what actually separates people who own audience from people who own IP, and why that distinction now shapes how factual programming gets funded, made and sold. Kemming explains why Quintus deliberately built its own YouTube audience rather than staying a pure distributor, and how that audience now replaces two or three pre-sale partners on a co-production. Benoit and MacDonald discuss splitting IP between production companies and creators, using Don't Get Catfish as a case study, and why "collaborate or evaporate" is becoming the operating principle for factual production. Other topics covered: patchwork financing and moving beyond broadcaster-only development; which factual genres actually monetise well and why territory affects CPM; using digital platforms to trial and prove IP cheaply before scaling budget; the risk of creator talent not porting successfully across platforms; and what traditional broadcasters stand to lose by not competing in this space. Recorded at BFI Southbank as part of the TellyCast Digital Content Forum 2025. www.Vuulr.com Sign up for The Drop newsletter Enrol on the TellyCast Digital Bootcamp Buy tickets for the Digital Content Forum Subscribe to the TellyCast YouTube channel for exclusive TV industry videos Follow us on LinkedIn Connect with Justin on LinkedIN TellyCast videos on YouTube TellyCast website TellyCast insta TellyCast Twitter TellyCast TikTok

    Factual Futures: Who Owns the Audience?
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TellyCast is the leading podcast exploring the future of television, YouTube, the creator economy and digital-first production. Hosted by Justin Crosby, each episode features conversations with the people shaping the future of content. 🎧 New episodes every week.

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