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MREA's Rise Up podcast brings real-time, relevant energy and policy information to Midwest stakeholders. Join MREA's Executive Director Nick Hylla, as he talks to a range of solar professionals working to improve the energy system in Midwest states. Enjoy engaging discussions focused on the decisions we’ll need to make regarding the energy transition. Episodes share opinions, recent news, engaging interviews, relevant resources, strategies, Midwest success stories, and actions you can take.
Join us at the Rise Up Podcast Live Event at MREA's Annual Energy Fair: TheEnergyFair.org
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Rise Up - LIVE at The Energy Fair - June 23-25, 2023
Nick Hylla, MREA Executive Director & Rise Up Podcast host, led Rise Up Live Events and a live panel during The Energy Fair! Participants had the opportunity to hear from the guests of Season 4 throughout the weekend, followed by a Q&A session on Sunday.
On Friday, June 23rd, in the Special Events Tent, attendees enjoyed insightful presentations:
Al Gedicks discussed Sulfide Mining in the Great Lakes Region at 11 a.m.
Jane McCurry shared insights on Electric Vehicle and Clean Transportation Adoption in the Midwest at 12 p.m.
Paul Wilson explored The Role of Nuclear Power in the Energy Transition at 1 p.m.
Chelsea Chandler presented the Corn Ethanol Vs. Solar Land Use Comparison in Wisconsin at 2 p.m.
Saturday, June 24th, in the Special Events Tent, featured more engaging talks:
Elizabeth Turner spoke about Energy Efficient Building Design for Electrification at 11 a.m.
Katie Kienbaum empowered the audience with insights on Empowering Energy Democracy through Distributed Energy Resources at 12 p.m.
Markeeta Keyes discussed Pursuing Energy Justice through Clean Energy Workforce Education at 2 p.m.
Andrew Kell outlined the Wisconsin Roadmap to Net Zero by 2050 at 3 p.m.
Tom Content emphasized Putting Consumers First in the Energy Transition at 4 p.m.
Sunday, June 25th, marked the Midwest Energy Transition Panel on the Main Stage at 10:30 a.m. The panel featured the guests from Rise Up Season 4, creating an enlightening discussion on the topic. -
Rise Up Season 4 LIVE at The Energy Fair - Trailer
Nick Hylla, MREA Executive Director & Rise Up Podcast host, led Rise Up Live Events and a live panel during The Energy Fair! Participants had the opportunity to hear from the guests of Season 4 throughout the weekend, followed by a Q&A session on Sunday.
On Friday, June 23rd, in the Special Events Tent, attendees enjoyed insightful presentations:
Al Gedicks discussed Sulfide Mining in the Great Lakes Region at 11 a.m.
Jane McCurry shared insights on Electric Vehicle and Clean Transportation Adoption in the Midwest at 12 p.m.
Paul Wilson explored The Role of Nuclear Power in the Energy Transition at 1 p.m.
Chelsea Chandler presented the Corn Ethanol Vs. Solar Land Use Comparison in Wisconsin at 2 p.m.
Saturday, June 24th, in the Special Events Tent, featured more engaging talks:
Elizabeth Turner spoke about Energy Efficient Building Design for Electrification at 11 a.m.
Katie Kienbaum empowered the audience with insights on Empowering Energy Democracy through Distributed Energy Resources at 12 p.m.
Markeeta Keyes discussed Pursuing Energy Justice through Clean Energy Workforce Education at 2 p.m.
Andrew Kell outlined the Wisconsin Roadmap to Net Zero by 2050 at 3 p.m.
Tom Content emphasized Putting Consumers First in the Energy Transition at 4 p.m.
Sunday, June 25th, marked the Midwest Energy Transition Panel on the Main Stage at 10:30 a.m. The panel featured the guests from Rise Up Season 4, creating an enlightening discussion on the topic. -
Voice of the People
n a time when corporate spending is protected as free speech, each of us must wonder how our voices will be heard. Utility companies have deep pockets, and their lobbyists are a fixture at state capitol buildings. Big businesses have big energy budgets and their associations are adept at making their issues a priority. And both of these industry sectors work together to create advocacy groups to advance common interests. So, what about residential energy customers? What about small businesses? Our resources pale in comparison. How are our voices heard and how are our concerns addressed?
Luckily, for most residential and small business ratepayers in the Midwest, we are represented by a state Citizens Utility Board (CUB). These non-profit groups work tirelessly to make sure that our needs are represented at public utility commission and legislative hearings. For decades they have taken a hardnosed approach at keeping electricity costs low while ensuring that expenses aren’t shifted to the electric bills of homes and small businesses.
In the context of the energy transition, CUBs advocacy role is critically important if we want an energy system that best serves people. We discuss the energy transition and the benefits of increased citizen involvement with Tom Content, long-time journalist and Executive Director of the Citizens Utility Board of Wisconsin.
0:20 – Big business energy spending vs residential ratepayers
1:17 – The role of a Citizens Utility Board
4:04 – The energy transition’s origins
8:41 – Decisions surrounding utility rates of return
11:13 – Importance of CUB and Energy Democracy
13:35 – CUB funding and activity
18:11 – Evolving energy issues and solar PV
20:45 – Energy poverty issues
28:20 – Impact of recent federal legislation
33:34 - Coordination recommendations to leverage federal funds
39:11 – “Magic wand” solutions
43:21 – Building a movement
" We need people from across the state to get involved. And because it's your energy future, ...it's all of our energy future. And if we don't get involved, it'll be built for us and it'll focus on the supply side like we've been talking about almost way too exclusively. We need the public to say to demand energy efficiency. "
- Tom Content, Executive Director, Citizens Utility Board of Wisconsin
ABOUT OUR GUEST: TOM CONTENT
Tom is the Executive Director of the Citizens Utility Board. He joined CUB in 2017 after working for more than 30 years as a journalist. He became interested in energy and what it costs households while sitting in the back seat, waiting for what seemed like forever, during the gas lines of the ‘70s. After graduating from Boston University’s College of Communication Tom worked at newspapers in Massachusetts and Pennsylvania before moving to Wisconsin. He reported on utilities and worked as business editor at the Green Bay-Press Gazette in the 1990s and then moved to Milwaukee, where he covered energy, utilities and sustainable business for the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. His reporting on energy and climate change won the National Press Club’s Stokes Award for Energy Writing in 2007. -
Energy Justice in Minneapolis
The first and largest US financial maneuver in response to COVID-19 was an unprecedented bailout of Wall Street investors to head off an impending stock market crash. Building upon the “Modern Monetary Theory” implemented to bail out the banking sector after the mortgage default crisis in 2008, the Federal Reserve committed up to $10 trillion in support for investors. As a result, the stock market became a graph of shareholder feelings while 30 million Americans had already filed jobless claims.
Millions of Americans live in debt, survive paycheck to paycheck, and work in the service industry which was mothballed - leaving people at home with deep feelings of insecurity. By May 25th 2020, US Billionaires were $434 billion richer on invented money, and we were watching George Floyd die tragically on the North Minneapolis streets at the hands of a police officer.
The alleged crime that led to his death? Passing a counterfeit $20 bill.
It’s tempting to say the rest is history, but it might be more accurate to say that it’s a continuation of history. North Minneapolis, like many cities in America, continues to suffer from policies established in the early 1900’s that restricted minority home ownership and access to financing. Collectively known as redlining, the policies included racially restricted covenants on property deeds preventing African Americans and other groups from buying homes in much of the City. Over time, the policies evolved to become lending restrictions that blocked access to business loans and home mortgages.
In the context of the energy transition, numerous studies show the elevated risk of low-income neighborhoods to pollution caused by the energy industry, that low-income households pay 3 times more of their household income for energy bills than higher income households, and that both of these factors are correlated with historically red-lined areas. In the wake of the financial bailout of investors, hard fought public policy wins over the last two years are set to allocate resources to programs and initiatives working to address the inequities.
These include Minneapolis Green Zones, the City’s Green cost share program and Green Careers Exploration program, and the Minneapolis Climate Equity Action Plan. With the passage of the Inflation Reduction Act, significant federal funding is directed to clean energy investments and job training programs in low-income neighborhoods, and the state of Minnesota just passed sweeping legislation that advances environmental protections and clean energy investment in designated environmental justice communities.
The prospect of city, state, and federal policies working together to make the next decade of local clean energy development benefit North Minneapolis and other areas of need in the city, is very real. And the people working in the neighborhood to make sure this happens are as real as it gets. We’ve had the privilege of working with a number of local groups to provide solar installation training in North Minneapolis over the last 3 years and are inspired by their accomplishments and the opportunities that they are creating. To discuss the opportunities and challenges, we talked with Markeeta Keyes who leads the Green Careers Exploration program with the City of Minneapolis.
Host: Nick Hylla, MREA Executive Director
Guest: Markeeta Keyes, Green Careers Program Coordinator, City of Minneapolis -
Workforce Readiness
The topic of workforce development is near and dear to our hearts at MREA. We started providing training in solar PV, solar thermal, small wind energy, and energy efficiency in 1990. We were one of the first accredited solar training programs in the country and still maintain accreditation with the Interstate Renewable Energy Council to this day. For over thirty years we’ve committed ourselves to offering the most accessible, affordable, and market relevant solar training and today more than 600 individuals a year utilize our training to get a foothold in the industry, earn certifications, and sharpen their skills.
In 2011, when we started our first instructor training program, the market was much different than today. Solar employment demand was pretty much only real in California and Hawaii with other states just starting to shine. The national electrician shortage was forecast but seemed a distant and avoidable problem. Utility companies were opposed to solar projects, even large-scale facilities, indicated the technology would never be ready for prime time.
One group that fully recognized the transformative potential of solar energy was the US Dept. of Energy which launched the SunShot Initiative with the goal of reducing the cost of solar energy by 75% and making it the cheapest source of electricity in the US. This goal, I should note, was met with much skepticism at the time. Today we know that the cost declines envisioned by SunShot were achieved earlier and more steeply than anyone expected. With the last 5 years of solar and wind as the leading sources of new energy capacity additions in the US, the promise of a solar jobs boom started to become reality. And now, with a massive federal energy infrastructure investment that locks in a decade of tax policy certainty, the market is fundamentally changed from a decade ago and the doubts about employment needs have been erased. Today, we can confidently say that there have never been more employment opportunities for skilled workers, young and old.
To explore the needs, opportunities, and challenges to meet the workforce needs of the energy transition, we talked with Richard Lawrence, Program Director with the Interstate Renewable Energy Council.
Guest: Richard Lawrence, Program Director, Interstate Renewable Energy Council (IREC)
Episode Notes
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0:20 – MREA's history in solar workforce development
3:53 – Federal legislation impacting the energy workforce
7:11 - Scale of the workforce need
8:06 – Inflation Reduction Act’s impact on workforce needs
9:10 – Key provisions in the Inflation Reduction Act
12:42 – In demand career positions for the energy transition
16:00 – Inflation Reduction Act and labor provisions
18:50 – How to join an apprenticeship program
20:23 - Benefits of apprenticeships to employers
23:36 - Federal investment impact on solar certifications
26:00 – In demand occupations during the energy transition
28:00 – Considerations for project developers
30:30 – Occupations for meter connected solar
33:00 – Programs to inspire
35:07 – Inclusion in the energy workforce
39:25 – A magic solution to workforce shortage
42:22 – The value of NABCEP certification
47:50 – The next generation of solar PV instructors
Episode Resources:
Clean energy group reports jobs and investments coming to Michigan
What Could Chill Heat Pumps
‘We can’t find people to work': The newest threat to Biden’s climate policies
Four Ways to Prepare for the IRA’s Upcoming Apprenticeship Requirements
Prevailing Wage and the Inflation Reduction Act
Solar Jobs Census
9 Million Good Jobs from Climate Action The Inflation Reduction Act of 2022
IREC Solar Career Map
KidWind
NEED trains and assists teachers in harnessing the energy of the classroom – the energy of students
MREA Instructor, Alex Jarvis Named IREC Ma -
Critical Mineral Mining
Since 2018, the United States has expanded its list of critical minerals from 35 to 50 as supply chains have become increasingly concentrated to fewer countries and the needs for minerals in industrial and consumer products have increased. Beginning in 2022, the Biden Administration began making serious federal policy moves to secure critical mineral supply chains by invoking the Defense Production Act and passing sweeping legislation to increase domestic production of minerals used to develop batteries for electric vehicles and other energy storage applications. The move signaled a recognition that without securing critical mineral supply chains, the US would not be able to compete in emerging energy technology markets and we would not be able to meet electrification and decarbonization goals.
To many in the domestic mining industry, the move was a surprising turn of favor, and all indications are that the change in federal priority is not temporary. It is a result of geopolitical trends that are challenging global supply chains for critical minerals and domestic energy priorities that increase critical mineral demand. The context is that we are in a global race for the future of energy, making the capacity for critical mineral extraction, refining, and clean tech manufacturing in today’s economy equivalent to the historic development of petroleum extraction and refining capacity.
To further explore the potential of domestic mining and refining of critical minerals and discuss the challenges, we talked to two experts working in the Midwest. We first talked with Dr. Snehamoy Chatterjee, associate professor of geological and mining engineering and sciences at Michigan Tech about the mining process, domestic needs, and mining innovations. And we talked with Dr. Al Gedicks, emeritus professor at UW- La Crosse about the historic and current challenges facing sulfide mining in the Midwest.
Host: Nick Hylla, MREA Executive Director
Guests: Dr. Snehamoy Chatterjee, Associate Professor, Geological & Mining Engineering & Sciences, Michigan Technological University, and Al Gedicks, Emeritus Professor of environmental sociology, UW – La Crosse
Episode Resources
Rise Up Live Event - Tickets
Show notes –
0:20 – Critical Mineral needs for an energy transition
4:28 – Domestic mineral requirements in recent federal legislation
10:17 -Expanding existing mining operations
11:50 – Minerals required to pursue electrification
14:11 – China's dominance of mineral processing
15:53 – Mining methods and processes
20:48 – Mining vs mineral processing
23:49 – Workforce and other needs of the mining industry
29:00 – Feasibility of fully domestic mineral supply chains
31:53 – Discovery vs. Exploration
33:50 – Timeline from permitting to start of mining operation
36:06 – Steps to approach mining successfully
39:15 – Metallic sulfide mining and tribal communities
43:20 – Material processing in metallic sulfide mining
52:30 – Process to develop a mine in Wisconsin
57:15 – Community concerns surrounding mining operations
1:01:00 – Mining operations’ impact on communities
1:06:12 - Boom and Bust nature of mining operations
1:07:38 – Optimal locations to pursue mineral extraction and next steps
1:16:12 - The psychology of inevitability
Get Connected:
UW - La Crosse: https://www.uwlax.edu/
Michigan Technological University: https://www.mtu.edu/
The Energy Fair: https://www.theenergyfair.org
MREA: https://www.midwestrenew.org
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A promising vision for a green recovery on mainstreet
Rise Up is a good midwest-specific show about energy policy and the future of renewables. They’re making the case that the recovery from the pandemic/ economic recession(/depression?) can and should be fueled by renewable energy.