Anagoge Podcast

Tiago Vasconcelos
  • 5.0 (2)
  • Philosophy
  • Updated Bimonthly

A podcast dedicated to exploring the human condition. Approaching the topic holistically by incorporating philosophy, psychology, religion, and any field that may be useful to understand ourselves and the world better.

  1. Enactivism, Buddhist Epistemology & the Cosmic Play with Hüseyin Beyköylü

    5d ago

    Enactivism, Buddhist Epistemology & the Cosmic Play with Hüseyin Beyköylü

    Hüseyin Beyköylü left medicine for cognitive science after an LSD experience, and five years later he's arguing that mainstream psychology and neuroscience are built on assumptions that systematically miss what matters most about the mind. This is a dense, careful conversation about epistemology, metaphysics, and why randomized controlled trials can't capture human transformation. We get into the entropy-fluency hypothesis, how destabilization and reorganization cycle through every scale from insight to mystical experience, and why false fluency (the smoothness of a conspiracy theory, the comfort of a simplified worldview) is just as real as the real thing. In the second half, the conversation opens into metaphysics: what is truth, is there a ground, and does groundlessness mean nothing matters? Hüseyin draws on Madhyamaka, Spinoza, Karen Barad, and Varela to argue that reality is a cosmic play we actively participate in, and that truth is something you embody rather than correspond to. TIMESTAMPS 0:00:00 - Introduction & Hüseyin's Background 0:02:16 - From Medicine to Psychedelic Research: The LSD Pivot 0:05:05 - Overview of Published Papers 0:06:31 - The 4P Model: Four Ways of Knowing 0:10:55 - Are the Categories Real? Yogacara, Madhyamaka & Reflexivity 0:17:53 - Language of Description vs. Language of Training 0:23:15 - What's Wrong with Therapy? Non-Propositional Transformation 0:28:18 - The Woo Problem: How to Evaluate Alternative Therapies 0:34:57 - Ergodicity, Idiographic Science & Complex Systems 0:43:31 - Hüseyin's Empirical Research: Time Series & Phase Transitions 0:48:42 - The Cognitive Continuum: From Fluency to Mystical Experience 0:55:48 - Relevance Realization & the Entropy-Fluency Hypothesis 1:02:24 - False Fluency, Conspirituality & Context-Dependence 1:12:23 - The Biggest Problems with Psychedelic Science & Neurophenomenology 1:27:39 - What Is Truth? Groundlessness, the Sacred & the Cosmic Play 2:05:57 - What Would You Tell Your Younger Self? KEY INSIGHTS & TRANSCRIPT https://tiagovf.com/posts/podcast-enactivism-buddhist-epistemology-the-cosmic-play-with-huseyin-beykoylu FOLLOW MY WORK https://substack.com/@tiagovf https://www.instagram.com/tiagobooks/ MUSIC CREDIT Intro song by Lief Sjostrom, titled Peril, from the album 'Impossible Parade' Website: https://liefsjostrom.com/ Album: https://liefsjostrom.bandcamp.com/album/impossible-parade

    2h 12m
  2. Psychedelic Realism, Platonism & The Ground of Being with Danny Forde

    May 18

    Psychedelic Realism, Platonism & The Ground of Being with Danny Forde

    Most philosophical work on psychedelics either reduces the experience to brain states or floats off into vague mysticism. Danny Forde carves a third path. He argues that psychedelics strip away the ego's narrative overlay and give you direct contact with reality as it actually is. The case is built on realist phenomenology, anti-psychologism, and a sober Platonism that treats essences as real but not otherworldly.  The episode is a sustained, sometimes contentious dialogue about whether that claim holds up: whether perception can ever be "raw," whether the minimal self really persists through ego dissolution, whether all traditions point at the same truth or differ in ways that matter ontologically, and whether psychedelic experience tells us about consciousness or about reality itself.  TIMESTAMPS 0:00 - Start 0:37 - Introduction: Danny Forde & Phenomenology of Psychedelic Experiences 1:55 - Danny's Background: Cork, UCC, and the Accidental Academic 4:15 - Wonder, Curiosity & Psychedelics as Fuel for Philosophy 6:29 - The First Trip: Vondelpark, Copelandia & The Great Shark Hunt 7:57 - Philosophy of Psychedelics in Academia: From Fringe to Legitimate 14:00 - Naturalism, Anti-Psychologism & the Limits of Science 27:50 - Realist Phenomenology: Sober Platonism & the Munich-Gottingen Circle 36:32 - Representationalism, Affordances & the Richness of Perception 47:03 - Ego-Free Seeing: Raw Perception vs. Sense-Making 55:15 - Language, Art & the Insufficiency of Words 58:23 - The Self in Psychedelic Experience: A Tripartite Model 71:03 - The Ground of Being, Noetic Conviction & Psychedelic Realism 82:08 - Essentialism: Defending Platonic Essences Against the Mainstream 91:50 - Perennialism, Tradition & the Problem of Religious Pluralism 108:00 - Semiotics of the Therapy Space & Future Work Correction (28:12): The epistemic/non-epistemic seeing distinction is from Fred Dretske, not Kripke. FOLLOW DANNY FORDE https://x.com/dannytheforde https://dannytheforde.substack.com/ READ & LISTEN Key insights and the full transcript here: https://tiagovf.com/posts/podcast-psychedelic-realism-platonism-the-ground-of-being-with-danny-forde FOLLOW https://substack.com/@tiagovf https://www.instagram.com/tiagobooks/ MUSIC CREDIT Intro song by Lief Sjostrom, titled Peril, from the album 'Impossible Parade' Website: https://liefsjostrom.com/ Album: https://liefsjostrom.bandcamp.com/album/impossible-parade

    1h 53m
  3. God and Technology with Heidi Campbell

    Apr 20

    God and Technology with Heidi Campbell

    Can technology save us? That question has been asked since the Industrial Revolution, and Heidi Campbell has spent 30 years studying how religious communities keep answering it. In this conversation, she walks through her Religious Social Shaping of Technology framework, showing that even the most conservative groups do not reject technology outright but filter it through their core values and authority structures. From the kosher cell phone in Israel to Zoom communion during the pandemic, the research reveals a consistent pattern that most popular narratives get wrong. The conversation then turns to AI, where Campbell draws a sharp line between knowledge and wisdom. GPTs can organize information; they cannot interpret or embody it. She explains why religious AI chatbots inherit hidden biases from their construction, why the field's failure to distinguish between predictive, generative, and agentic systems is its biggest blind spot, and why the internet has shifted from a supplement to a substitute for religious life, especially among Gen Z. She closes with the recalibration that has redefined her own career: for a growing number of people, the first port of call for religion is no longer a physical community but a screen. TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Start 1:29 How a 1996 Essay on Virtual Church Launched a Career 3:40 The Religious Social Shaping of Technology: Theory & Examples 7:32 Kosher Cell Phones, Chabad, and Evangelical Christians: Unlikely Parallels 8:45 Agency vs. Technological Determinism: Can We Still Choose? 11:42 Heidegger, Neutrality & the Market Forces Behind Technology 14:32 The Inherent Conflict Between Tech Values and Human Values 16:31 How Churches Responded to the Pandemic: Theology or Sociology? 19:11 The Communion-on-Screen Debate: Transubstantiation vs. Symbolic Practice 22:48 European Studies: CONTOC, RECOVERA & the Rise of Hybrid Worship 24:21 Four Models of the God-Technology Relationship 33:10 AI Chatbots, Jesus Bots & the Heidi Bot 35:02 Why GPTs Give Knowledge But Not Wisdom 39:10 The Blind Spot: AI Literacy in Theology & Religious Studies 42:36 From Supplement to Substitute: How the Internet Became the First Port of Call 45:06 Upcoming Books: Agentic AI, AI Slop & Religious Brain Rot   READ & LISTEN Read key insights and the full transcript here: https://tiagovf.com/posts/podcast-god-and-technology-with-heidi-campbell FOLLOW https://substack.com/@tiagovf https://www.instagram.com/tiagobooks/ MUSIC CREDIT Intro song by Lief Sjostrom, titled Peril, from the album 'Impossible Parade' Website: https://liefsjostrom.com/ Album: https://liefsjostrom.bandcamp.com/album/impossible-parade

    47 min
  4. The Orthodox Vision of Beauty with Timothy Patitasas

    Mar 26

    The Orthodox Vision of Beauty with Timothy Patitasas

    Timothy Patitsas argues that Western ethics has the order of the transcendentals backwards. Truth and goodness come first in most traditions. But Patitsas, drawing from Greek Orthodox theology, argues that beauty must come first. Not beauty as aesthetics, but beauty as the force that draws you toward God, toward wholeness, and toward a life worth living. In this conversation, we work through what that actually means: how liturgy functions as a structuring force analogous to high-reliability organizations like aircraft carriers, why asceticism follows naturally from eros rather than opposing it, and how trauma healing must proceed through concentric stages: stabilizing the animal first, then the relational human, then the deeper archaeological work. Patitsas draws on Christopher Alexander, Jane Jacobs, Roy Rappaport, and Jonathan Shay to connect the Orthodox vision to secular frameworks, while insisting that certain realities can only be known by crossing a threshold, not by argument. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Teaser 00:49 Background & The Ethics of Beauty 04:08 Growing Up Greek-American 11:41 Liturgical Knowing vs. Book Knowledge 18:10 Explaining Liturgy to Secular People 24:41 Why Religious Ritual Needs More Structure 28:12 The Aircraft Carrier Study: Three Systems of Order 36:41 Asceticism as a Consequence of Eros 42:41 Eros Unfolding into Agape 49:37 Jane Jacobs & The Secular Person 56:42 Meeting a Saint Changes Everything 1:04:37 Psychedelics, Faith & Threshold Experiences 1:12:38 The Berserk Mode & Dark Initiation 1:20:43 Talk Therapy, CBT & Trauma Healing 1:32:33 Beauty First vs. Truth First 1:39:36 Christ Crucified as Beauty TRANSCRIPT AND KEY INSIGHTS Read here: https://tiagovf.com/posts/podcast-the-orthodox-vision-of-beauty-with-timothy-patitasas FOLLOW https://substack.com/@tiagovf https://www.instagram.com/tiagobooks/ MUSIC CREDIT Intro song by Lief Sjostrom, titled Peril, from the album 'Impossible Parade' Website: https://liefsjostrom.com/

    1h 43m
  5. The Timaeus, Beauty and Tradition with Piero Boitani

    Mar 2

    The Timaeus, Beauty and Tradition with Piero Boitani

    How much of what you read are you actually missing? In this in person conversation recorded in Rome (full video on YouTube), comparative literature scholar Piero Boitani makes the case that most of us are functionally illiterate when it comes to the Western canon, not because we lack access to the texts, but because we lack the layered knowledge required to read them. He demonstrates this with a single word in Tolstoy that links The Death of Ivan Ilyich to Christ's crucifixion through Tolstoy's own Gospel translation, a connection invisible without Russian, Greek, and biblical literacy working simultaneously. From there, the conversation expands into the thin border between philosophy and poetry, why both originate in Aristotelian wonder, and what exactly poetry can reach that philosophy cannot. Boitani traces how every major Western intellectual revival has been an attempt to recover antiquity, and argues that modern culture's refusal to look backward is not progress but a form of blindness. He closes with an unexpectedly blunt reflection on dying, fame, and whether literature offers any real defense against either. 00:00 Start 00:33 Introducing Piero Boitani and a 50 Year Career  04:21 Astronomy and the Necessity of Original Languages  09:43 Wonder as the Root of Philosophy and Poetry  18:47 The Ineffable in Dante and Modern Literature  27:19 Rejecting the Bifurcation of Science and Art  38:40 Plato and the Paradox of Poetic Truth  46:27 The Death of the Past and Historical Stratification  59:45 The Collapse of Antiquity and Medieval Renaissances  1:07:51 Translating the Timaeus Through the Ages  1:24:25 World Literature versus Universal History  1:35:56 Confronting Finitude and the Defense Against Death  1:49:10 The Illusion of Literary Immortality and Final Thoughts --- Read key insights and the full transcript here: https://tiagovf.com/posts/the-timaeus-beauty-and-tradition-anagoge-podcast Follow me to get updates on the podcast and my work:  https://substack.com/@tiagovf https://www.instagram.com/tiagobooks/ The intro song is by Lief Sjostrom, titled Peril, from the album 'Impossible Parade'. Website: https://liefsjostrom.com/ Album: https://liefsjostrom.bandcamp.com/album/impossible-parade

    1h 49m
  6. The Science & Spirituality of Psychedelics with Michiel van Elk

    Jan 26

    The Science & Spirituality of Psychedelics with Michiel van Elk

    This is a in-person recorded podcast. The video is available on YouTube. Michiel van Elk is an Associate Professor of Cognitive Psychology at Leiden University and head of the PRiSM Lab, where he studies the cognitive neuroscience of religion and psychedelic experiences. In this episode, we take a sober look at the current state of psychedelic science, moving beyond the cultural evangelism and media hype. Michiel critiques the biomedical model of psychedelic therapy, discusses the disappointing effect sizes in recent clinical trials, and highlights methodological issues like "breaking blind" and selection bias. We explore why psychedelics are not a "reset" button for the brain but rather amplifiers of meaning, potentially functioning as "super placebos." The conversation covers the theoretical gaps in the field, contrasting the popular "entropic brain" hypotheses with the lack of solid empirical data. Michiel also outlines his vision for the future of the field: a move toward "sober science" that separates the study of these substances from the spiritual fervor that often surrounds them. 00:00 - Meet Michiel van Elk: Academic Background & The PRISM Lab 02:34 - The Role of Philosophy in Psychedelic Science 07:34 - Critiquing "Narrative Theories" in Psychology 11:09 - From Pentecostalism to Atheism: Michiel's Personal Journey 17:59 - Critiquing the Cognitive Science of Religion (CSR) 30:36 - "Absorption" & The Process of "Real-Making" 39:59 - The "More Real Than Real" Debate: Perception vs. Meaning 51:14 - The Flaws of the Biomedical Model & 4E Cognition 1:02:18 - Misconceptions & The Hype Bubble in Psychedelic Science 1:15:39 - The "Super Placebo" & The Meaning Response 1:19:09 - Can We Cultivate Transformation? Personality & Openness 1:22:39 - The "Einstein Effect" & Notable Research 1:28:59 - The Future: Toward a More "Sober" Psychedelic Science 1:33:44 - New Research: Magic Truffles & Natural Compounds --- Transcript: https://tiagovf.com/posts/the-science-spirituality-of-psychedelics-with-michiel-van-elk-anagoge-podcast --- Follow me to get updates on the podcast and my work: https://substack.com/@tiagovf https://www.instagram.com/tiagobooks/ --- The intro song is by Lief Sjostrom, titled Peril, from the album 'Impossible Parade'. Website: https://liefsjostrom.com/ Album: https://liefsjostrom.bandcamp.com/album/impossible-parade

    1h 37m
  7. Platonism, Mysticism & Mysteries with Arthur Versluis

    Jan 21

    Platonism, Mysticism & Mysteries with Arthur Versluis

    Arthur Versluis is the author of Platonic Mysticism: Contemplative Science, Philosophy, Literature, and Art and a Professor of Religious Studies at Michigan State University. His work bridges the gap between rigorous scholarship and the experiential reality of spiritual traditions. We examine the transformative power of art and its ability to mediate between the material and the transcendent. Versluis highlights the Hudson River School and the concept of "Luminism," explaining how the visual representation of light in nature mirrors the internal experience of mystical illumination. The discussion navigates the complex relationship between the "forms" of Plato and the direct experience of the divine, moving beyond the common accusations of dualism often leveled at the Platonic tradition. We explore the "apophatic" or negative theological tradition, comparing the insights of Western mystics like Meister Eckhart with the emptiness found in the Heart Sutra. Finally, Versluis shares how his background in agriculture informs his work ethic and how Western philosophy can be complemented by the precise "maps" of consciousness found in Vajrayana Buddhism. 0:00 - Introduction: Teaching Plato & The Allegory of the Cave 4:45 - The Eclipse of Platonism & The Dominance of Materialism 10:19 - Reframing the "Forms": Angels, Hierarchy & Non-Duality 16:11 - Gnosticism, The Heart Sutra, and the Apophatic Lineage 24:10 - Luminism: The Hudson River School & The Metaphysics of Art 33:59 - Kant vs. Schelling: Who Opens the Door to Mysticism? 40:21 - The Descent into Darkness & The Ancient Mysteries 50:38 - What is Perennial Philosophy? (Truth vs. Relativism) 58:52 - American Gurus & The Problem with New Age Spirituality 69:17 - Breaking Through the Materialistic Deception 75:23 - Farming, Buddhist Maps of Consciousness & Recovering the West   Follow me to get updates on the podcast and my work:  https://substack.com/@tiagovf https://www.instagram.com/tiagobooks/   The intro song is by Lief Sjostrom, titled Peril, from the album 'Impossible Parade'. Website: https://liefsjostrom.com/ Album: https://liefsjostrom.bandcamp.com/album/impossible-parade

    1h 26m
  8. Object-Oriented Ontology & the Nature of Reality with Graham Harman

    12/28/2025

    Object-Oriented Ontology & the Nature of Reality with Graham Harman

    This conversation explores the depths of Object-Oriented Ontology (OOO) and its radical departure from both analytic and continental philosophy traditions. Graham Harman explains the limitations of "literalism" in science and how great philosophy relies on intuition and rhetoric rather than just rational justification. We discuss the influence of Martin Heidegger's tool analysis and the difference between "real" and "sensual" objects. We also cover the role of architecture in philosophy and why art may be the only way to touch the reality of things.   00:00 - Introduction to Object-Oriented Ontology  05:00 - Heidegger, Husserl, and Tool Analysis 09:00 - The Critique of Literalism 15:00 - Aesthetics and Metaphor 17:50 - Defining "Objects" vs. Materialism 25:00 - Sacredness and Ethical Imperatives 37:50 - Object-Object Interaction 51:19 - Flat Ontology & Human Exceptionalism 55:00 - Animal Intelligence 1:07:50 - Intuition, Truth, and Justification 1:17:50 - Theology, Mysticism, and Essence 1:31:00 - Philosophy and Architecture www.anagogepodast.com   Follow me to get updates on the podcast and my work:  https://substack.com/@tiagovf https://www.instagram.com/tiagobooks/   The intro song is by Lief Sjostrom, titled Peril, from the album 'Impossible Parade'. Website: https://liefsjostrom.com/ Album: https://liefsjostrom.bandcamp.com/album/impossible-parade

    1h 38m
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A podcast dedicated to exploring the human condition. Approaching the topic holistically by incorporating philosophy, psychology, religion, and any field that may be useful to understand ourselves and the world better.

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  • Creator
    Tiago Vasconcelos
  • Years Active
    2020 - 2026
  • Episodes
    27
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Show Website
    Anagoge Podcast