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Debi John, play consultant, and author of the PAUSE, PLAY, CONNECTⓇ Flow, is a passionate advocate about championing and integrating the power of play into our incredibly busy lives.
Drawing from over 20 years of professional experience in safeguarding, education, and the creative arts, Debi prides herself in not prescribing exactly how to parent. There is not a ‘one-size-fit’s-all’ approach. She facilitates far-reaching, empowering, evidence-based discussions for parents to embrace the power of play their way.

Play Healing Parent Podcast Deborah John

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Debi John, play consultant, and author of the PAUSE, PLAY, CONNECTⓇ Flow, is a passionate advocate about championing and integrating the power of play into our incredibly busy lives.
Drawing from over 20 years of professional experience in safeguarding, education, and the creative arts, Debi prides herself in not prescribing exactly how to parent. There is not a ‘one-size-fit’s-all’ approach. She facilitates far-reaching, empowering, evidence-based discussions for parents to embrace the power of play their way.

    Overcoming depression and finding our playful side again.

    Overcoming depression and finding our playful side again.

    Overcoming depression and finding our playful side again.
    Dr Molly explains some of the recommendations she gives the parents she works with who are struggling to connect and play with their children with practical and visual tools. She also shares about how she would change the educational system to serve the needs of our children more.
     
    Dr Molly’s details:
    https://www.drmollyoshea.com/
    Insta - @doctormollyoshea
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/molly-oshea-b951a27/
    Debi's Details:
    Visit: www.playhealing.com
    Links to book a call about speaking/training/consulting can be found on her website.
    Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debi-john-159343a8/
    Debi loves to connect on LinkedIn and posts regularly on Instagram:
    @playhealingofficial
    And sometimes Tiktok: @playhealing
    Timeline:
    1:30 Intro from Dr Molly
    5:00 Playfulness
    6:30 The other side of playfulness
    Perfectionist Productivity…leading to an outcome that has ‘value.’
    8 min Play Preferences - we come to play with our own preferences
    Taking over and leading the play…
    9 min The power of non-directive play.
    11.20 Finding your flow
    Letting play happen naturally
    10:00 The power of curiosity
    11:30 Building the play relationship and seeing behavior as communication.
    Going into their flow
    12:30 How we respond and communicate affects the relationship
    14:30 How anxiety affects play
    The power of presence - 14 min SOUNDBITE…
    15 min Being the ‘banister’ and creating that sense of calm…
    ‘As parents, we are a tomato cage’ 15 min 45
    “Strong protective framework safe space around them to rest providing them the opportunity to grow…pretending we’re more than that gives us way to much credit and frankly too much blame.”
    18:00 What happens when we feel stuck and have lost our playfulness?
    20:30 The power of journaling
    21:10 Disconnection with our body- practical strategies ….
    24:00 Playfulness and steps to overcoming depression and building connection.
    26:00 Mindfulness in education - the one thing to change…
    31:00 Final advice to parents who are struggling- growing in self-awareness and self compassion.
    35min Contact Details for Dr Molly

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    Virtual Play within the Metaverse from a Tech-Savvy Dad’s perspective.

    Virtual Play within the Metaverse from a Tech-Savvy Dad’s perspective.

    Playing with VR and AR within the metaverse from a Tech Savvy Dad’s perspective
    Ben Fryer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benjaminfryer/
     
    Diverse Interactive: https://www.diverseinteractive.com/
     
    “We make the impossible happen…Bringing big ideas to life through technology, craft and curiosity, Diverse Interactive is an independent experience agency where epic concepts become an exciting reality.”
    Debi John LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debi-john-159343a8/
     
    Play Healing CIC: https://www.playhealing.com/
     
    During this podcast, awesome dad and co founder of diverse interactive…Ben Prior co founder of Diverse Interactive speaks to Debi about his experience of raising two kids that have access to some pretty cool tech! Over last 7 years he has been supporting  brands to use the meta verse to it’s full extent using specialised immersive technology.
    In this podcast I wanted to find out more about the meta verse and how he thinks it will affect our lives and more importantly the lives of our kids in the future…
    Timeline:
    1:50  What is the Metaverse?
    2:30 Where is the Metaverse?
    4:00  App Recommendations for kids?
    4:20 What is Augmented Reality?
    4:40 The power of Pokemon
    5:10 The joy of Minecraft
    5:40 How Minecraft can help you to build connection through play?
    6:10 Minecraft Education.
    6:45 How can we as parents connect with our kids in the metaverse?
    7:10 The challenge of Fortnight!
    7:45 Working together with your child with games.
    8:30 Virtual Reality and our kids.
    9:15 Playstation VR
    9:20 Quest Headsets
    9:30 Age recommendations for headsets.
    11:40 Proprioception and VR Headsets.
    12:15 Saving lives through VR and further applications.
    12:30 VR for Education and it’s potential.   
    14:00 Concerns for parents around the Metaverse
    15:00 The biggest concern.
    16:30 The cost of virtual goods.
    18:30 What one thing would you want to change in the education system today?
    19:00 Worldwide impact.
    19:30 Diversity and Inclusion are shared widely.
    20:00 The one thing.
    20:50 Outro thanks to Diverse Interactive.
    21:00 Supporting parents in the corporate sector.
     
     
    Disclaimer: VR Headsets are designed for older teens/adults and Play Healing CIC would recommend sticking to government guidelines with regards to the age of children using these VR devices. We would also encourage parents to be actively involved with their children when they are using VR and be aware of the content they are accessing where possible.
    For more information check out the link below:
     
    The safety of virtual reality systems Government Guidelines
    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/923616/safety-domestic-vr-systems.pdf
     

    • 21 min
    Season 2 Introduction

    Season 2 Introduction

    "Hello and welcome back to Season 2 of the Play Healing Podcast.
    Hello I’m Debi and I’m the author of the Play Healing Flow: PAUSE PLAY CONNECTⓇ - three words that can make such a difference in our lives. I train people about the importance of PAUSING and tuning into where we are, at tuning in to where our child is at. Playing how are using the tool  to connect with children and to use their language which is PLAY to be engage them and make them feel seen and heard.
    In this season I’m going to be talking about how over 80% of the total the parents I work with struggle to PLAY. Either because they haven’t got the time but feel like they should or they just simply don’t enjoy it. And that’s okay because we have to start somewhere, but I know the Power of PLAY and actually PLAY is related to Joy to happiness and the opposite of PLAY can be rigidity, some people would say depression. So we want to be moving towards playfulness. We want to be moving towards enjoying the life we have in front of us and I believe that there are some very simple ways that I can step forward into this and discover the true nature and value of play in our busy lives.
    So, welcome to ‘Too busy not to play,’ the series that we can integrate play in giving you permission to play your way.
    Visit: www.playhealing.com
    Links to book a call about speaking/training/consulting can be found on the website.
     
    Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debi-john-159343a8/
     
    Instagram: @playhealingofficial
     
     
    Tiktok: @playhealing

    • 2 min
    The app that transforms you into a parenting play hero

    The app that transforms you into a parenting play hero

    The app that transforms you into a playful parenting hero
     
    About Debi:
     
    Debi is the founder of Play Healing and a mother of two teenage daughters. Debi coaches parents online and has featured on BBC Radio to talk about parenting, home schooling and preventing tech addiction. She has worked in education with children aged 4-16 for over 20 years, performed as a musician for 25 years and studied a Post Grad in Therapeutic Play. 
    She is the author the PLAY HEALING PAUSE Model helping parents to Pause, Play and Connect deeply with their children in a fast-paced, digital age. 
     
    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/debi-john-159343a8/
     
    Music used on the podcast written by Debi John and produced by the amazing Paul Frazer.
     
    About Ben Geliher
     
    Ben Geliher, CEO and founder of Caper has been developing and project managing the Caper app for families for the last year or so thanks to seed funding from LEGO and Founders Factory. He is an ethical and highly experienced game designer with a passion to encourage connection between parent and child.
     
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/bengeliher/
     
    https://www.caper.co
    Resources 
    22 Screen Free Ways to Build Connection with your Tween/Teen - https://playhealing-tween.gr8.com 
    Play Healing website - https://www.playhealing.com/Play Healing Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/playhealingofficial/
    Play Healing Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/playhealingparent/
    If you think that working with me may be something you’d like to do then contact me at playhealing@outlook.com and we can arrange a chat.
     
    Managing tech for emotional health course coming soon so do send me a message or check out the website for more information.
     
     
    Value Bombs: 
     
     
    Ben: I’m not a saint being in the games industry they use a lot of the mechanics of addiction, if you look at the top grossing apps on the app store games in the chart they use elements of gambling and addiction. 
     
    There’s a lot of debate in the ethics of game design.
     
    Extrinsic motivators are points in the game where you reward your player eg. points coins, items. 
     
    When we were looking at caper we wanted the intrinsic motivators including: Why would we want to play with our kids? What makes it fun to play with your kid?
     
    Often it’s about pretend play, physical connection, running cuddling and playing in the space you feel comfortable in. 
     
     
    Often there’s an effort gap when you’ve been working to then be in a place where you are able to click into ‘play mode’ and give your child focussed attention. It can be really tough…not everyone can make up these magical worlds, not everyone is good at doing pretend play. So Caper provides a backbone a story with loveable characters and then encourage you with suggestions and starters.
     
    Debi : Creativity is so important and a way of future proofing our kids. We don’t need them to be able to recall facts - we have google but we will need children that can think outside the box whether physically or digitally. 
    It’s important to give parents a framework when it comes to managing tech in a healthy way.
     
    Ben: Lego seem to care the most about play and the philosophy of play and creativity. Lego itself has infinite possibilities. 
    One of the other key factors is that sometimes parents find it boring to play. Playing a board game is boring for many parents themselves. 
    I do not feel playful when Im feeling stressed.
    Some parents really find play boring so we wanted the characters to have a pixar quality that parents can also enjoy the content as well as the child.
    You want the parent to have fun with the kid as that aids connection.
     
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    • 17 min
    The Impact of Dance, Education and Parenting on Racism

    The Impact of Dance, Education and Parenting on Racism

    The Impact of Dance, Education and Parenting on Racism
     
    About Debi:
     
    Debi is the founder of Play Healing and a mother of two teenage daughters. Debi coaches parents online and has featured on BBC Radio to talk about parenting, homeschooling and preventing tech addiction. She has worked in education with children aged 4-16 for over 20 years, performed as a musician for 25 years and studied a Post Grad in Therapeutic Play. 
    She is the author the PLAY HEALING PAUSE Model helping parents to Pause, Play and Connect deeply with their children in a fast-paced, digital age. 
     
    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/debi-john-159343a8/
     
    Music used on the podcast written by Debi John and produced by the amazing Paul Frazer.
     
    About Nuna Sandy:
     
    Nuna is an amazing mum, dancer, choreographer and producer with Company 3 working creatively with young people aged 11-18. Prior to this, she worked with Zoo Nation, Plague, Boy Blue and other dance companies as well as tonnes of teaching children in dance from ages 4-18.
     
    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/nuna-sandy-23b4092b/
     
    This is the link to the Video Nuna mentioned and recommended at the end of the podcast. 
    https://youtu.be/inA3G4hzryU
     
     
     
     
     
    Support the Play Healing Podcast
     
    If you fancy treating yourself of a loved one to some Neals Yard Organics Products then support this podcast by using this link: uk.nyrorganic.com/shop/debijohn
     
     
     
    Resources 
     
    Free e-book: https://playhealing-bb694.gr8.com
    22 Screen Free Ways to Build Connection with your Tween/Teen - https://playhealing-tween.gr8.com 
    Play Healing website - https://www.playhealing.com/
    Play Healing Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/playhealingparent/
    Play Healing Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/playhealingofficial/
     
    If you think that working with me may be something you’d like to do then contact me at playhealing@outlook.com and we can arrange a chat.
     
     
    Value Bombs: 
     
    Dance has the power to make you think in different ways, to challenge your perception.
     
    ‘It’s about what dance can open up for you and what it can teach you in terms of life skills. ‘
     
    Dance transcends language
     
    5min - Nuna explains all about the importance that youth clubs had in her life.
     
    10 min - Nuna talks about working on transformative projects with young people.
     
    Setting achievable goals helps to build a sense of accomplishment.
     
    ‘Teaching challenge based routines that I knew through practice they would get it - the level of pride and accomplishment makes them want to come back and build on it…’
     
    16 min  - The story about how her daughter struggled with racist comments about her hair and how the family helped her. 
     
    17 min -  It’s important to model celebrating our differences and thinking about how others feel with our children.
    18 min - It’s important to educate our children about race and have those age appropriate conversations.
    19 min - The key is not shying away from those conversations 
     
    19.30 ‘I got off the ‘train' cause I was suffering trauma cause of what I’d seen…’
     
     
    20.30 min Big hair don’t care…great book.
     
     
    ‘Representation matters - it starts at home but needs to be backed up by everything else we see…’
     
     
    22min - A wonderful example of how a school dealt with racism.
     
    ‘Not every black person wants the role of educator…’
     
    27 min - It’s not about being easily offended if someone is trying to learn.  
     
    28 min - Talking about having black and white babies with our children.
    ‘We’re all ignorant until we ask questions and learn.’  It’s not being afraid to have conversations. 
    29 min having conversations about age gender in an age appropriate way… 
    30 min contextual safeguarding …
    31min - ‘skin is colour of poo’ = a really negative connotation. 
     
     
    33 min Nuna’s Secret to her parenting s

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    Small yet powerful changes that helps to prevent tech addiction and gaming disorder.

    Small yet powerful changes that helps to prevent tech addiction and gaming disorder.

    Small yet powerful changes that help to prevent tech addiction and gaming disorder.
    Navigating the online world safely.
    About Debi:
    Debi is the founder of Play Healing and a mother of two teenage daughters. Debi coaches parents online and has featured on BBC Radio to talk about parenting, homeschooling, and preventing tech addiction. She has worked in education with children aged 4-16 for over 20 years, performed as a musician for 25 years and studied a Post Grad in Therapeutic Play. 
    She is the author of the PLAY HEALING PAUSE Model helping parents to Pause, Play, and Connect deeply with their children in a fast-paced, digital age. 
     
    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/debi-john-159343a8/
     
    Music used on the podcast written by Debi John and produced by the amazing Paul Frazer.
     
    About Michael Jacobus:
     
    Michael Jacobus is a life-long, career Camp Director and youth-development specialist. An internationally recognized author, child-development professional and outdoor education guru, Michael founded Reset Summer Camp after witnessing, (within his own family) the dangers and challenges of screen-addicted youth.
     
    Michael has assembled a team of unmatched professionals to help him coordinate this effort in the hopes of breaking the cycle of tech addiction and overuse and give our children real-world Life Skills and tools to build a solid, successful future for themselves.
     
    https://www.resetsummercamp.com
     
     
    Support the Play Healing Podcast
     
    Shopping via the Play Healing Neals Yard Organics link: uk.nyrorganic.com/shop/debijohn
     
    Resources 
     
    Free e-book: https://playhealing-bb694.gr8.com
    22 Screen-Free Ways to Build Connection with your Tween/Teen - https://playhealing-tween.gr8.com 
    Play Healing website - https://www.playhealing.com/
    Play Healing Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/playhealingparent/
    Play Healing Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/playhealingofficial/
     
    Introduction: 
     
    Over the last year or so I’ve been in contact with Micheal from Reset Summer Camps and have been so impressed with the holistic approach they have to tech addiction as they work with the parents as well as the kids.
     
    The Play Healing PAUSE 12-Week Mastermind is in its last month and the feedback I’ve had so far has been really moving and so excited about the behavioral and emotional changes going on in the children’s lives due to the courage and openness of the parents who have decided to pause and consider a new way of parenting.
     
    If you think that working with me may be something you’d like to do then contact me at playhealing@outlook.com and I’d love to hear from you. 
     
     
    Value Bombs: 
     
    In the situation where we have many hours of detachment between parent and child as they are gaming in their room there seems to be a clear link with this aggression and the challenging mental health issues that present themselves.
     
    After gaming disorder has been recognized by the World Health Organisation the program was expanded as a digital detox program because many of the kids were watching YouTube or being on social media and suffering from the same side effects.
     
    Aggression is the number 1 symptom we come across…
     
    Aggression, lack of sleep, depression, lack of motivation are all symptoms we come across regularly.
     
    Tip: Be engaged with the children and the families that your children are hanging out with to cut down the predator or language concerns.
    Instead of just hoping they're ok with their headphones in their room change the environment to keep them safe:
    e.g Homework in kitchen, phones out of rooms.
     
    “It’s not just can you fix my kid, it’s can you fix the family model.”
     
    To support the podcast go and treat yourself to something special at my Neals Yard Shop:
     
    uk.nyrorganic.com/shop/debijohn
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Kind heart - Wise words

Debi John is such a lovely, kind and sweet soul. Her presence and intentions come through so beautifully in this incredible podcast to guide parents along their own play- healing path. I highly recommend you listen to ALL her podcasts as each has their own flavor, charm, wise words and inspiration. Thank you Debi for showing up in our lives in such a beautiful way. I often pass along episodes to friends and clients in need of inspiration not only for the content, but as a reminder of what a parent can create with the parenting journey. Can’t wait to see what comes next!

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