The Whole Marketer podcast

Abigail Dixon

Welcome to The Whole Marketer podcast, where we look at the holistic skills that marketers of today need to grow the brands and businesses of tomorrow, whilst ensuring marketers feel supported and empowered to have successful and fulfilling careers and lives as a whole. Hosted by Abby Dixon along with her guest experts and marketing leaders, every fortnight they discuss a key skill impacting marketers and the profession today; from technical skills, latest thinking and soft skills, to leadership and personal understanding so that you can thrive in today's challenging yet rewarding profession. For more information visit www.thewholemarketer.com

  1. Jun 9 ·  Video

    The Truth About Senior Marketing Roles Right Now - Job Market, CMO Tenure and How to Thrive

    Episode 165 with guest Joel Barnett, Founder of Fortune Hill  The second in our mini-series on how marketing roles are changing, in this episode we highlight what the job market looks like right now, including: why so many senior roles are disappearing or being restructured, what companies are looking for in marketing leaders today, the importance of role clarity and expectations, and job search advice.  Joining Abby is her guest Joel Barnett, Founder and CEO of Fortune Hill, who partners with ambitious organisations to appoint Marketing, Commercial, and HR leaders to supercharge business performance and enhance culture. With decades of experience placing marketing executives across some of the UK's most recognised brands, Joel shares his honest yet optimistic assessment of where the marketing profession currently stands - and what both leaders and organisations need to do differently.    Key takeaways  The CMO title is disappearing… More recruitment briefs are coming through as Chief Growth Officer or Chief Customer Officer, as the CMO role itself is being disaggregated  Why are CMO tenures getting shorter... Joel reflects that marketing leaders share some of the responsibility, through poorly managed expectations, a reluctance to have difficult conversations, and in some cases, overstating what they can and will deliver  The brief is broken… 75% of unsuccessful hires come down to a poorly constructed brief. Companies are hiring to solve a short-term problem, prioritising sector experience over the character traits that determine long-term success.  Tips for leaders... Hire first for character, then capability and finally experience - too often organisations hire the CV but fire what isn't CV-related.  Taking the reins of your job search... The job market is tough and there is a significant supply and demand imbalance right now. Joel's advice: treat your job search like a marketing campaign, be the driver not the passenger, and don't take a role just for the title.    00:00 — Welcome to the Whole Marketer Podcast  02:33 — Introducing Joel Barnett  03:00 — What Marketing Leadership Is Really For  05:12 — The CMO Title Is Disappearing — What's Replacing It  08:00 — The Disaggregation of the Marketing Role  12:28 — Marketing is Being Stretched and Squeezed Simultaneously  14:53 — The Most Important Trait in a Modern Marketing Leader  16:57 — The Leadership Piece People Overlook  19:23 — The Conversations Marketing Leaders Aren't Having  21:37 — Why CMO Tenure Is Shorter Than It Should Be  26:26 — The Cost of Tolerating Average  31:18 — Resilience, Coaching, and Not Going It Alone  33:38 — Why Senior Marketing Roles Are Being Cut  38:03 — The State of the Job Market Right Now  41:00 — How to Search for a Role Like a Marketer  45:28 — On Being Selective — and Knowing It's Never Too Late to Pivot  47:53 — How to Make a Better Senior Marketing Hire  50:19 — Hire for Character Before Credentials  53:00 — Joel's Advice: Learn the Language of the Room    Resources  The Whole Marketer 'Define your ideal role' resource – free download  https://thewholemarketer.com/resources/    The Whole Marketer 'Take the reins of your career' resource – free download  https://thewholemarketer.com/resources/    The Whole Marketer 'Develop your authentic leadership style' resource – free download  https://thewholemarketer.com/resources/    Are Marketers facing a clarity crisis? - Marketing Week article  https://thewholemarketer.com/mw-article-clarity/      Host: https://www.linkedin.com/in/abigailcdixon/  Guest: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joelbarnettfortunehill/    About The Whole Marketer  The Whole Marketer podcast is here to support and empower the people behind brands and businesses with the latest technical tools, soft and leadership skills and personal understanding for a fulfilling marketing career and life as a whole.   Did you know The Whole Marketer is more than a podcast and book? We're your trusted partners for marketing capability and transformation, providing consultancy, training & workshops, speaking, coaching, mentoring and trusted advisory service.  Visit www.thewholemarketer.com to see how we support leaders to build successful and fulfilled marketing teams with the holistic skills to lead the long-term commercial agenda and deliver the true potential of marketing.    Contact hello@thewholemarketer.com to get in touch with Abby and the team

    56 min
  2. What the Data Really Says About Morale, Progression and Burnout

    May 26 ·  Video

    What the Data Really Says About Morale, Progression and Burnout

    Episode 164 with guest Charlotte Rogers, Marketing Week's Deputy Managing Editor and Head of Insight  We're kicking off a brand new mini-series about how marketing roles are changing and its impact, and in this episode we discuss this as well as shine a light on widespread and worrying challenges facing marketers today.  Based on the findings from Marketing Week's 2026 Career and Salary Survey (2,300+ respondents) we're discussing expanding remits, senior roles disappearing, burnout, imposter syndrome, stalled progression, a persistent understanding gap at board level – and what we need to do about it.  Joining Abby is Marketing Week's Charlotte Rogers, Deputy Managing Editor and Head of Insight at Marketing Week. Having worked at Marketing Week for a decade, she is fascinated writing about the marketing industry both in the UK and worldwide and leads on the publication's proprietary research projects, as well as the wider features, and is the co-host of the Marketing Week podcast.   Key takeaways  Our marketing profession is in crisis… Marketing roles are expanding and restructuring, often without clear resource or support. Half of respondents said their team had restructured and senior leaders are being cut and not replaced.  Burnout is a real risk… Many marketers feel overwhelmed (65%), undervalued, questioning their skills, facing imposter syndrome, and emotionally exhausted. 53% no longer enjoy work that used to engage them.  There is a persistent lack of understanding of marketing's true value within organisations and marketers are feeling the pressure to defend it… leading to not speaking up about mental health because they're carrying their own issues AND the weight of the profession's perception.   We have a progression crisis… 70% of marketers saw no career progression in the past year. It's hitting parents and women the hardest as 44.6% of mothers said being a parent had harmed their progression, vs 7.6% of fathers.  What do we need to do… the only way out of the cycle is for marketers to start advocating for themselves, setting boundaries, and being honest about what is and isn't deliverable. It's not easy but marketing leaders need to speak up for themselves and marketers in their care.     00:00 — Welcome to the Whole Marketer Podcast 02:33 — Introducing Charlotte Rogers 02:58 — The State of Marketing Right Now What the 2026 Career & Salary Survey is revealing about how marketers are feeling 07:00 — More Responsibility, Senior Roles Disappearing 09:29 — Why Marketing Still Struggles to Prove Its Value 12:47 — Afraid to Move, Unhappy to Stay 15:04 — The AI Pressure and the Skills We Actually Need 16:21 — Burnout, Imposter Syndrome, and Suffering in Silence - Two years of mental health data 19:09 — The Added Weight of Defending the Whole Profession 21:23 — Restructures, Rebrands, and Shifting Job Titles 26:16 — The Cost of Constant Change 30:59 — On Saying No (and Why Pushing Back is So Difficult) 33:21 — The Progression Gap Is Worse for Parents 37:19 — Flexibility as a Right, Not a Favour 40:56 — What Marketers Can Control 44:39 — Charlotte's Advice: Know Your Value   Resources  Blog: Burnout - How Leaders Can Support Those In Their Care - The Whole Marketer  https://www.marketingweek.com/abigail-dixon-marketer-resilience/  Marketing Week - https://www.marketingweek.com/   Host: https://www.linkedin.com/in/abigailcdixon/  Guest: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlotterogers/    About The Whole Marketer  The Whole Marketer podcast is here to support and empower the people behind brands and businesses with the latest technical tools, soft and leadership skills and personal understanding for a fulfilling marketing career and life as a whole.   Did you know The Whole Marketer is more than a podcast and book? We're your trusted partners for marketing capability and transformation, providing consultancy, training & workshops, speaking, coaching, mentoring and trusted advisory service.  Visit www.thewholemarketer.com to see how we support leaders to build successful and fulfilled marketing teams with the holistic skills to lead the long-term commercial agenda and deliver the true potential of marketing.  Contact hello@thewholemarketer.com to get in touch with Abby and the team

    48 min
  3. Episode 163 – The Power of Different with guest Amy Kean: Why Being Different Matters in Marketing and Life

    Mar 16

    Episode 163 – The Power of Different with guest Amy Kean: Why Being Different Matters in Marketing and Life

    Episode #163. This episode is a holistic topic that impacts not only what we do, but how and why – it's the power of being different. We know being distinctive is fundamental for building successful, memorable brands, so today's episode will discuss not only this but why it's vital for marketers to develop the skills and behaviours to be brave and embrace being different at work and in their lives as a whole.    Abby's guest expert on today's episode is Amy Kean, best-selling author, columnist, speaker, voice for change in the advertising and media industry and founder of Good Shout which is an L&D company that brings out the human in people. As a strategist and creative leader, Amy trains teams on how to communicate, collaborate and learn from one another, championing unrepresentative voices and pushing businesses to move from token gestures to tangible action.    In this episode, Amy shares her of definition of embracing difference, why we shouldn't play it safe, culture vs trends, why difference matters in marketing and practical ways for you to embrace difference.  Plus Amy's advice for marketers of tomorrow.    00:00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and The Power of Being Different  00:03:40 What Does Embracing Difference Mean?   00:05:23 Front Stage vs. Backstage Selves   00:09:15 Leadership Pressure to Perform and Prove Themselves   00:12:53 The Japan Airlines Buddhist Monk Case Study   00:17:31 The Power of Difference in Marketing  00:22:31 Why Difference Matters   00:25:45 Cultural Trends vs. Fads   00:28:16 Unlocking Difference: Confidence and Self-Belief   00:30:08 Practical Ways to Embrace Difference   00:35:57 Creativity, Safe Spaces, and Community Support  00:37:18 Career Highs and Learnings  00:43:10 Advice for Marketers of Tomorrow    Host: Abigail Dixon FCIM/ICF | LinkedIn Guest: 💥 Amy Kean 💥 | LinkedIn   The Whole Marketer podcast is here to support and empower the people behind brands and businesses with the latest technical tools, soft and leadership skills and personal understanding for a fulfilling marketing career and life as a whole. Did you know The Whole Marketer is more than a podcast and book? We're your trusted partners for marketing capability and transformation, providing consultancy, training & workshops, speaking, coaching, mentoring and trusted advisory service. Visit www.thewholemarketer.com to see how we support leaders to build marketing teams with the holistic skills to lead the long-term commercial agenda and deliver the true potential of marketing. Contact hello@thewholemarketer.com to get in touch with Abby and the team

    46 min
  4. Episode 162 – Personal branding with guest Laura Fox: How to build an authentic, personal brand on LinkedIn

    Mar 2

    Episode 162 – Personal branding with guest Laura Fox: How to build an authentic, personal brand on LinkedIn

    Episode #162. A topic of personal understanding, today we're discussing personal branding for marketers – the benefits of embracing the LinkedIn platform to connect, share your voice, learn, inspire, network and for your future career development.  Abby's guest expert is Laura Fox who helps individuals and companies to use LinkedIn to their advantage, whether for visibility, growth or leadership positioning. After working at LinkedIn for over 7 years, Laura set up the LinkedIn Fox as a LinkedIn strategist, trainer and speaker – working with a range of clients from individuals and SMEs to large scale companies like Mattel, Unilever, London Business School and more  In this episode, Laura shares her definition of building personal brands, the real-life benefits of doing so, overcoming fears and time constraints, best practice for engagement, plus Laura's 3Ps to start to build your personal brand.  Plus Laura's advice for marketers of tomorrow.    00:00:00 Welcome and Introduction to Personal Branding  00:02:46 Defining Personal Brand on LinkedIn   00:04:33 Being Memorable and Relatable  00:06:45 Real-World Benefits of LinkedIn   00:09:40 Overcoming Barriers to Using LinkedIn   00:11:19 Best Practice Approach for Success   00:18:03 Measuring: Quality Over Quantity   00:24:48 Personal vs. Company Use of LinkedIn   00:28:19 Laura Fox's Three P's Framework   00:32:51 Advice for Marketers of Tomorrow   Host: Abigail Dixon FCIM/ICF | LinkedIn Guest: Laura Fox | LinkedIn   The Whole Marketer podcast is here to support and empower the people behind brands and businesses with the latest technical tools, soft and leadership skills and personal understanding for a fulfilling marketing career and life as a whole. Did you know The Whole Marketer is more than a podcast and book? We're your trusted partners for marketing capability and transformation, providing consultancy, training & workshops, speaking, coaching, mentoring and trusted advisory service. Visit www.thewholemarketer.com to see how we support leaders to build marketing teams with the holistic skills to lead the long-term commercial agenda and deliver the true potential of marketing. Contact hello@thewholemarketer.com to get in touch with Abby and the team

    34 min
  5. Episode 161 – Self-belief with guest Sharry Cramond: M&S award-winning marketing leader shares her story of positive mindset and resilience to succeed

    Feb 16

    Episode 161 – Self-belief with guest Sharry Cramond: M&S award-winning marketing leader shares her story of positive mindset and resilience to succeed

    Episode #161. Today's episode is a personal understanding topic focused on self-belief, which comes from knowing yourself and owning your strengths, your talents, your past experiences to help you build trust in your future choices.  Joining Abby is legendary senior marketer, M&S's Sharry Cramond. Sharry is a multi-award winning marketer – named in the list of the world's top 100 marketers as well as The Marketing Society's prestigious Inspirational Leader award. With a wealth of experience, Sharry leads marketing for Marks and Spencer, one of the UK's most loved and trusted brands and is published author of 'Win Your Lottery".    In this episode, Sharry shares her personal story and perspective on self-belief, why it's important for marketers, examples of how she applies positive mindset, and the power of goal-setting. As well as telling the M&S case study about how they have leveraged their workforce to become brand ambassadors.  Plus Sharry's 'Highs and Grows' and advice for marketers of tomorrow    00:00:00 Introduction to Self-Belief and Mindset   00:02:38 Sharry's Perspective on Self-Belief   00:05:30 The Importance of Self-Belief for Marketers  00:08:17 Building Self-Belief: Shari's Personal Story  00:13:24 Developing a 'Healthy Thinking Diet'  00:15:26 Radiators vs. Drains: Energy, Attitude and Mindset  00:21:16 Accountability and Achieving Goals  00:22:52 Belief and Commitment in Teams  00:26:30 Key Behaviours for Career Success   00:31:18 The M&S Ambassador Case Study   00:39:54 Sharry's Career Highs and 'Grows'     Host: Abigail Dixon FCIM/ICF | LinkedIn Guest: Sharry Cramond | LinkedIn   The Whole Marketer podcast is here to support and empower the people behind brands and businesses with the latest technical tools, soft and leadership skills and personal understanding for a fulfilling marketing career and life as a whole. Did you know The Whole Marketer is more than a podcast and book? We're your trusted partners for marketing capability and transformation, providing consultancy, training & workshops, speaking, coaching, mentoring and trusted advisory service. Visit www.thewholemarketer.com to see how we support leaders to build marketing teams with the holistic skills to lead the long-term commercial agenda and deliver the true potential of marketing. Contact hello@thewholemarketer.com to get in touch with Abby and the team

    45 min
  6. Episode 160 – Career Development with guest Veronika Kryuchkova: Reckitt's Global Capability Leader on skills and behaviours for marketing careers of the future

    Feb 2

    Episode 160 – Career Development with guest Veronika Kryuchkova: Reckitt's Global Capability Leader on skills and behaviours for marketing careers of the future

    Episode #160. Today's episode is a personal understanding topic on career development, empowering marketers to take the reins of your career by ensuring we are building skills and behaviours to achieve our ideal role and also our future career goals.  Abby's guest is Veronika Kryuchkova, Global Head of Capability for Reckitt. As a global marketing and transformation leader with two decades of experience launching, scaling and turning around brands including at Johnson and Johnson, Teva and Reckitt - and podcast host of Get Superpowered - she is passionate about the human side of transformation, helping teams and organisations build the capabilities they need and career development. In this episode, Veronika explains being intentional in career choices, key skills for marketers of the future and creating a culture of learning. Plus she introduces the concept of the capability stack and core, human, and future capabilities  Plus Veronika shares her career high and lows and advice for marketers of tomorrow.    00:00:00 Welcome and Introduction to Career Development  00:03:00 Defining Career Development   00:05:04 Intentionality and the Capability Stack   00:09:12 Core, Human, and Future Capabilities   00:14:15 The Importance of Marketers Owning Their Careers   00:15:49 Forces Shaping Marketing Careers  00:21:58 Key Skills for Future Marketers  00:25:43 The Role of Curiosity and Collaboration   00:33:13 Embedding Skills Beyond Training 00:37:42 Leadership's Role in Learning Culture   00:39:45 Veronika's Career Highs and Lows  00:43:56 Advice for Marketers of Tomorrow     Host: Abigail Dixon FCIM/ICF | LinkedIn Guest: Veronika Kryuchkova | LinkedIn   The Whole Marketer podcast is here to support and empower the people behind brands and businesses with the latest technical tools, soft and leadership skills and personal understanding for a fulfilling marketing career and life as a whole. Did you know The Whole Marketer is more than a podcast and book? We're your trusted partners for marketing capability and transformation, providing consultancy, training & workshops, speaking, coaching, mentoring and trusted advisory service. Visit www.thewholemarketer.com to see how we support leaders to build marketing teams with the holistic skills to lead the long-term commercial agenda and deliver the true potential of marketing. Contact hello@thewholemarketer.com to get in touch with Abby and the team

    47 min
  7. Episode 159 – Authentic Leadership with guest David Enwright: The Post Office's Marketing Director on being brave and staying human leadership insight

    Jan 19

    Episode 159 – Authentic Leadership with guest David Enwright: The Post Office's Marketing Director on being brave and staying human leadership insight

    Episode #159. Our first episode of 2026 is a personal understanding and leadership topic on authentic leadership with advice from a senior marketer on key leadership skills and finding your style.  Joining Abby is her guest David Enwright, Marketing Director at the Post Office and a long-time advocate for inclusive, human-centred leadership. With a career spanning HSBC, RBS, Allianz, and the Post Office, he has built a reputation for delivering commercial impact while creating environments where people feel safe, valued, and genuinely able to thrive. As a recognised role model for inclusive leadership, David leads with honesty and empathy, and brings lived experiences and candour to some of businesses most complex challenges.  In this episode, David shares his definition of authentic leadership, the importance of deep active listening, trust and psychological safety, and how he has developed his authentic leadership style. Plus, David's career highs and lows and advice for marketers of tomorrow.    00:00:00 Welcome and Introduction to Authentic Leadership  00:02:47 Defining of Authentic Leadership  00:05:00 David's Leadership Style  00:06:25 The Importance of Deep Listening   00:08:28 Creating the Right Environment for Conversations   00:09:46 Arriving at an Authentic Leadership Style  00:12:08 Learning from Mistakes and Personal Loss   00:16:05 Recognizing and Preventing Burnout  00:17:51 Building Psychological Safety and Trust   00:21:11 Benefits of Psychological Safety   00:23:09 Encouraging Bold Ideas and Growth Mindset   00:24:47 David's Career Highs and Lows   00:26:58 Advice for Marketers of Tomorrow   Host: Abigail Dixon FCIM/ICF | LinkedIn Guest: David Enwright | LinkedIn   The Whole Marketer podcast is here to support and empower the people behind brands and businesses with the latest technical tools, soft and leadership skills and personal understanding for a fulfilling marketing career and life as a whole. Did you know The Whole Marketer is more than a podcast and book? We're your trusted partners for marketing capability and transformation, providing consultancy, training & workshops, speaking, coaching, mentoring and trusted advisory service. Visit www.thewholemarketer.com to see how we support leaders to build marketing teams with the holistic skills to lead the long-term commercial agenda and deliver the true potential of marketing. Contact hello@thewholemarketer.com to get in touch with Abby and the team

    29 min
  8. Episode 158 – Effective brand building with guest Andrew Geoghegan

    11/17/2025

    Episode 158 – Effective brand building with guest Andrew Geoghegan

    Episode #158. Today's episode is a technical skill on effective brand building and the considerations and competencies you need to build a brand; including the importance of clarity on your strategic choices and the movement you want to make through SMART objectives to ladder up to the commercial objectives.  Abby's guest is experienced, award-winning marketing leader and friend of the podcast Andrew Geoghegan, Group Chief Marketing Officer at William Grant & Sons and ex PZ Cussons and Diageo. His paper on creating a culture of effectiveness at Diageo won Gold, Best New Learning, and Best Use of Data from the IPA and he has been recognised as one of the top 100 marketers by Marketing Week.  In this episode, Andrew shares his experience of brand building and practical advice from his book 'Effective brand building' including organisational context when brand building, making strategic choices, meeting your consumer where they are and how to win/keep winning.   Plus Andrew's highs and lows (since he last appeared on our podcast) and advice for marketers of tomorrow.    Host: Abigail Dixon FCIM/ICF | LinkedIn Guest: Andrew Geoghegan | LinkedIn   The Whole Marketer podcast is here to support and empower the people behind brands and businesses with the latest technical tools, soft and leadership skills and personal understanding for a fulfilling marketing career and life as a whole. Did you know The Whole Marketer is more than a podcast and book? We're your trusted partners for marketing capability and transformation, providing consultancy, training & workshops, speaking, coaching, mentoring and trusted advisory service. Visit www.thewholemarketer.com to see how we support leaders to build marketing teams with the holistic skills to lead the long-term commercial agenda and deliver the true potential of marketing. Contact hello@thewholemarketer.com to get in touch with Abby and the team

    40 min

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Welcome to The Whole Marketer podcast, where we look at the holistic skills that marketers of today need to grow the brands and businesses of tomorrow, whilst ensuring marketers feel supported and empowered to have successful and fulfilling careers and lives as a whole. Hosted by Abby Dixon along with her guest experts and marketing leaders, every fortnight they discuss a key skill impacting marketers and the profession today; from technical skills, latest thinking and soft skills, to leadership and personal understanding so that you can thrive in today's challenging yet rewarding profession. For more information visit www.thewholemarketer.com

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