Turn on and tune into Field Tripping, a podcast about psychedelics, the people that use them and what our renewed love affair with both says about who we are and where we’re going. Join us on a journey to explore how psychedelics awaken new views on sex, science, business, fitness, life, and death in the lives of our influential and inspiring guests – one epic trip at a time. Learn more at fieldtripping.fm.
Whole | Tom Eckert & Sheri Bessi-Eckert
Tom Eckert and Sheri Bessi-Eckert are professional counselors and life partners leading a historic campaign to legalize Psilocybin Assisted Therapy in their home state of Oregon. They join Ronan to discuss why they believe in the power of psilocybin, share views on the nature of consciousness, and why measure 109 could become a breakthrough initiative for millions. Then, we talk about the connection between healing and wholeness – and how we're the authors of our own next chapter.
Sheri and Tom discuss how they discovered – and then began to advocate for – Psilocybin Therapy (2:33)
Sheri and Tom talk about their effort over the last 5 years in bringing together a ballot initiative with the Oregon Legislative Council (5:35)
Tom details the origins of the Oregon Psilocybin Society (9:30)
Tom and Ronan discuss the FDA process (11:00)
Details on Measure 109 and how it could create access to psilocybin assisted psychotherapy – and what that entails (11:55)
Sheri highlights some of the strict parameters and safety considerations built into the law – and protections of over-commercialization – to maintain a community-based service (13:00)
Sheri discussed how the Psilocybin Service Initiative (PSI) aims to be inclusive, rigorous and will legitimatize practitioners with essential training programs (15:00)
How we bring about drug reform and learn as an industry from the errors of the 60s (17:00)
‘But What If We’re Wrong?' – and what does the narrative look like (20:00)
What the throws of transformation can look like – and how important the history of these plant medicines really are for us to know and pay attention to (21:20)
Consciousness as a final mystery – and the relationship between consciousness and reality. The subject/object split that physics brings into question and how these exact questions are intrinsically healing. And they seem to be related to positive therapeutic outcomes (23:10)
Sheri believes it's important for individuals to have their own genuine experience. We are all our own best guru’s. We can experience awe – and even the cosmos (26:00)
Sheri shares her personal experience with psychedelics, and how her view towards them evolved – from conservative to advocate. Psychedelics helped her see the emotions that were stuck within her – called ‘memory trauma’ (30:20)
Tom talks about his experience with psychedelics and how they helped him cope with the loss of his father (32:50)
Sheri adds how her and Tom experience the universe together when on psilocybin. “It’s a wonderful thing for a marriage” (34:38)
To heal is to become more whole – and suffering is estrangement from the whole. A psychedelic experience can bring the whole together, and to recognize that you are not separate from the cosmos itself (38:00)
Once expanded – you can never go back to your original shape. And for Sheri – that is the work of psychedelics. And for Tom, this idea of neuroplasticity is important; flexibility away from rigid mental loops. (39:00)
Sheri talks about how she challenges the men she works with to ‘sit with their beliefs, and ask themselves: why they believe what they believe?’ (45:30)
Tom discusses the identification of meaning, and how looking forward is a blank page for all of us. You are free to be the author; can be called 'reality creation' (47:00)
The Happy Chef | Edible Dee
Edible Dee, known as The Happy Chef, is a veteran cannabis chef, herbalist and holistic healer. Her third cookbook 'Delic Dishes' is a guide to cooking with psilocybin as the main ingredient in recipes like salad dressing, hummus, sushi and chocolate mug cakes. Dee chats with Ronan about her origin into the space – from underground edibles to large-scale production. Then, Dee shares how psychedelics helped her cope with the sudden loss of her sister Amber. Then, things get spicy as Dee shares her thoughts on how to explore psychedelic sex.
Follow Dee on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter @edibledee, and check out her cookbooks at her website http://edibledee.com
2:00 - How Dee became known as The Happy Chef and why she adopted a number of different aliases in order to protect herself. Ronan and Dee dig into the idea of living behind a different name and how that affects the way a person walks through life.
5:00 - The origin of Dee’s first cookbook and how a music partnership started it all.
7:10 - Dee delves into how people are never taught on how to deal with death, and this was really apparent to her around her sister’s untimely passing. She turned to drinking and stopped eating — but what helped her through it was a set of cannabis brownies that she had made with her sister. That changed her for, what she feels like is, the better and found hope & inspiration out of tragedy and turned that into a career.
12:40 - The impact of pumping patients full of man-made medications and how we can shift our healthcare system to be more in touch with healing the root cause of issues instead of being centred around symptom-relief. Do people in the modern Americas have the tools & space to process their emotions properly, or is our working climate not conducive to this?
15:30 - Ronan breaks down the meaning of one of his favourite phrases, the “metaphysical outlaw"
17:15 - Dee “dishes" on how she transitioned from strictly focusing on cannabis-containing edibles to encompassing psychedelics into her recipes as well, and how that opening-up changed her workflows, her employee relationships and her life as a whole. She started off microdosing psilocybin — in an effort to optimize her productivity — and goes into detail about her regimen and thought process behind how this works best for her.
21:50 - Dee tells Ronan about her life-changing ayahuasca journey in Las Vegas, that helped her heal from a tremendous loss and get in touch with herself in a much deeper way.
25:00 - Her attachments to the world around her diminished Dee’s self-love, and had a tough time coming to terms with the concept of “loving yourself,” which she has done with the help of psychedelics & mindfulness.
27:30 - Celebrate! Dee and Ronan talk about how to be your own biggest fan, and how important it is to ’take pictures’ of those moments.
29:10 - Find out where 80% of your body’s serotonin comes from, which is very apropos for Dee’s work.
30:20 - Sex! Dee details the chapter in her latest book that talks about her intimate adventures while on a psilocybin journey and how that can foster connections in a deep & meaningful way. She compares MDMA- vs psilocybin-assisted intercourse and outlines the differences in her own experiences.
Accountability Partners | Ian McCall & Irena Marin
Retired MMA fighter Ian McCall and his partner Irena Marin fight trauma with psychedelic therapy. After an addiction to pain killers, Ian discovered psilocybin as an alternative medicine to heal trauma. Now, Ian considers himself the first psychedelic integration coach for high level athletes. Irena used psychedelics to help heal her own childhood trauma – and today – works with clients as a psychedelic integration coach. Together – Ian and Irena use psychedelics, science, and their own experiences to help others accelerate healing, enhance athletic performance, and even be more present as parents. Follow Ian on instagram and twitter @unclecreepymma and learn more at fieldtripping.fm
Ian details how he got interested in martial arts, his experience growing up, and how he found success as an MMA fighter. (2:00)
Ian discusses how he used diet and exercise to help heal his young daughter’s rheumatoid arthritis – along with cannabis oil to control her symptoms. After witnessing her progress, Ian realized how psychedelic substance could help him heal himself. (2:40)
Irena discusses her upbringing in the former Yugoslavia – and recalls her grandmother – who would harvest and use mushrooms for their healing properties. (7:45)
While studying psychology Irena began to have childhood trauma flashbacks and discovered the depth of PTSD, trauma and sexual trauma she was carrying. (9:40)
Irena began to look for answers and found the power of psychedelics to help heal – which changed her view on traditional psychology. (12:40)
Irena realized that the root of her trauma could not be denied: her sexual trauma had pushed her into sexually compulsive behavior – which limited her ability to authentically engage emotionally with relationships. (14:40)
Ian discusses ‘The McCall Method’ (19:20)
The implications of trying to perform and what it means to be the first ‘psychedelic integration coach for high performance athletes’. (28:50)
Ian discuss the importance of positive male figures in his life, including various coaches, and his father. (31:50)
As parents, learning to ‘be here now’ through psychedelics is an example of a simple lesson that can be used for integration. (34:00)
If You're Melting | Shelby Hartman & Madison Margolin
Shelby Hartman and Madison Margolin are co-founders of the psychedelic print magazine ‘Double Blind’. They join Ronan to discuss how psychedelics create a positive ripple effect on society when they heal the individual. Then, Madison shares how her first trip was the most impactful – and Shelby says psychedelics showed her what it means to be human. Psychedelics can heal, but they are not a magic bullet; that’s why it’s important for us to be candid about our experiences.
Shelby Hartman and Madison Margolin are changing the narrative around psychedelic drugs with their print magazine ‘Double Blind’ that covers stories about psychedelics from around the globe. Before the magazine – the two worked with notable publications including Rolling Stone, HERB, Vice Media, High Times, and LA Weekly.
Connecting with psychedelics from a young age – both Shelby and Madison are focused on a mission to educate people about the potential of psychedelic experiences – and to assist them with their own healing and personal growth.
They join Ronan to discuss how psychedelics create a positive ripple effect on society when they heal the individual. Then, Madison shares how her first trip was the most impactful – and Shelby says psychedelics showed her what it means to be human. Psychedelics can heal, but they are not a magic bullet; that’s why it’s important for us to be candid about our experiences.
Learn more at doubleblindmag.com, follow Shelby Hartman on Instagram @shelbyannehart or Madison Margolin on Instagram @ madisonmargolin
The origin story of ‘Double Blind’ and the role of science in our approach. (3:30)
Psychedelics are not about just healing the individual – they help the community and society at large – creating a ripple effect of globally conscious citizens. (7:03)
Madison’s first trip was one of her most impactful – and she took inspiration from seeing the book cover ‘Be Here Now” by Ram Dass. Psychedelics can be used as an inspiration for daily sober living. (10:10)
Integration is the real work – and psychedelics help you reintegrate as a whole. (12:40)
For Shelby, her first time on ayahuasca was one of the most profound experiences. It shaped her outlook on the world – and provided clarity on her understanding of what it meant to be human. (13:50)
Afterwards, she felt much peace. But on the second night, Shelby spent her trip resisting what was happening. Some of the best advice she relied on: “if you’re melting – melt” and “the only way out – is through”. For Shelby, seeing a psychedelic integration therapist after the experience would have been helpful. (17:00)
Shelby and Madison are passionate about the potential of psychedelics to heal – but not a magic bullet and not for everyone. That’s why it’s important we are candid about our experiences. (19:00)
Why the mainstream needs to become more psychedelic. (25:00)
‘Double Blind’ and ‘Field Trip Psychedelics’ are both organizations who are deeply passionate about the therapeutic potential of psychedelic and we are working towards a world where people who can heal from them in a safe and compassionate context. (26:30)
Shelby would love to see her Dad take a trip one day – and since COVID hit – she thinks he is finally coming around. (32:40)
Psychedelics aren’t just about healing one person. Once one person starts on a path to healing, they start everyone around them on a path to healing. Psychedelics can help you to re-integrate yourself as a whole. (35:10)
Other Ways to Love | Humble The Poet
Humble The Poet’s instinct for rhyme and rap helps him reveal to heal – and encourages others to live outside their comfort zone. Humble shares insights and mementos from a few psilocybin and ayahuasca trips, with an appreciation for the tough lessons that cleared an emotional blockage and ultimately let the love in. Today, Humble is ready to receive the rose, rather than tear it out. And his evolving view to honor love has shifted his focus towards helping those he cares for to chase their own dreams too.
The Answer to the World’s Problems | Donick Cary
Director of the hilarious and star-studded Netflix documentary ‘Have a Good Trip’, Donick Cary joins Ronan to talk psychedelics. Donick sees psychedelics as tools that tether us to human connection, and believes that exercising empathy for others will let you love yourself. Then, why humor helps us all – and what it’s like talking to a dancing armadillo on Ayahuasca. Learn more at fieldtripping.fm.
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