Very That

Grey & Arnold

You know that moment when you’re at a party you and see some stupid bitch giving you shady eyes, then your friend introduces you to each other and you hit off because you both love a 90’s hip hop queen & are triggered by your mothers...it’s VERY THAT! Join Arnold and Grey, two charmingly sardonic friends, for Very That, a podcast that serves as a therapy session for two friends exploring the complexities of being 2nd-generation-brown-queer-millennials and all the bewitchingly awkward moments that come with it.

  1. 04/14/2022

    It's giving Politeness... but is it giving Authenticity?

    You know that moment when you’re at a lame party and the host asks if you’re enjoying the festivities; what do you do? Politely say “yes” or “sorry gorl but isss whack”? Which answer is the right choice? Is politeness a departure from authenticity, or can politeness be genuine? In this episode, your favorite Trauma Titas dive into the discussion of “Is Politeness Authentic?”. Live, laugh, cry with Arnold and Grey as they go back and forth between their opposing views on the authenticity of politeness. Arnold expresses how past experiences with politeness have deemed the sentiment to be disingenuous and just another means of control. Arnold further explains it doesn’t mean that politeness is not always a bad thing because whose to say everyone deserves our most authentic selves? Grey flips the coin to discuss that while politeness can be feigned, it can grant access to our most authentic wants and needs. Grey explains that while polite words may not always express one’s true feelings, politeness can still express one’s sentiments. Together, they dive into their own experiences that have led them to these opposing views. After much debate & cackling, the two understand that their opposing views stem from how they see respect. In the end, they can agree that politeness itself can lead to growth and potentially more access to the world and yourself. Will these two divas ever see eye-to-eye on this topic? Listen & find out!

  2. 03/31/2022

    Family: Too Close for Connection

    We all know BROWN families are close, but does that mean that we’re always connected? In this episode, your favorite Trauma Titas dive into the topic of ‘Family Closeness & Connection’. Live, Laugh, Cry with Arnold & Grey as they explore their experiences with closeness and connection in their own families, and the drama of the trauma! Arnold explains that while her family is close enough to have their hashtag, true connection requires something much more vulnerable. Further, she goes on to discuss the impact emotional dissonances with the family has on her connection to them. For Grey, sometimes the family closest to you can feel the farthest away…and maybe far enough. Grey explains that while vulnerability has deepened her connection with some of her family, it remains the block with those closest.  Together they explore how emotional vulnerability, or the lack thereof, has shaped the way their view families, and why this worthiness wound needs some Windex. As the Voula to each other’s Maria, they go on to explore how queerness expands the reach of the word family to provide a strong sense of tribal connection. In the end, the two discover that the work we do within ourselves leads the way to closeness & connectedness…even if it is oversharing about the lump on the back of your neck! In the end, they come to the conclusion that if they want true closeness with family it means not only sharing your whole self, neck lump and all, but also embrace all the lumps of your families’ necks too…OPA!

  3. 03/03/2022

    Forgive & Forget... but really?

    Forgive and forget: Is it real? Can you truly let go and forget after you forgive someone…maybe? Either way, Grey is confused and fully doesn’t know what’s happening. In this episode, our favorite Trauma Titas dive into the topic of forgiveness, namely forgive and forget, and explore their opposing viewpoints. Arnold affirms that while forgiveness is possible, it’s still seared into her memory that Rebecca stole her favorite purple pen in 4th grade. While Grey, on the other hand, holds that once you forgive someone of their offense, it’s easy to remove that offense from your view of that person…if the relationship is meaningful. Together, they explore how the cultural conventions we grow up in can dictate how we view the topic of forgiving and forgetting. Arnold explains how therapy & decolonization work has broadened his view of forgiveness, where accepting both the elements you both agree and oppose within people. After healing from a breakup, Arnold realized that forgiveness requires him to remember and embrace the parts he disagree with, while compassionately incorporating those parts into how he see them. Grey goes into how the overdramatic cultural customs she grew up in provided a framework and criteria for forgiveness, where the final condition requires a clearing of the ethereal slate. Grey explains how the forgiveness gained from a family member helped to reaffirm this view of forgiveness. The two turn it inwards to expose the moments when they struggled with forgiveness. While the two see the element of forgetting differently, they agree that forgiveness comes with a newfound view of your offender. Whether it’s understanding their faults as parts of their complexity or accepting that they’re human and had a momentary departure from their typical character.  Either Grey is still going to be late for lunch, and Rebecca from 4th grade is still on Arnold’s list.

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You know that moment when you’re at a party you and see some stupid bitch giving you shady eyes, then your friend introduces you to each other and you hit off because you both love a 90’s hip hop queen & are triggered by your mothers...it’s VERY THAT! Join Arnold and Grey, two charmingly sardonic friends, for Very That, a podcast that serves as a therapy session for two friends exploring the complexities of being 2nd-generation-brown-queer-millennials and all the bewitchingly awkward moments that come with it.