This Thing Called Life

Network For Hope

This Thing Called Life is a podcast dedicated to acts of giving, kindness, compassion, and humanity. Host Andi Johnson introduces you to powerful organ, tissue, and eye donation stories from individuals, families, and front-line healthcare teams. These stories are meant to inspire and remind you that while life can be challenging and unpredictable, it’s also incredibly beautiful. We hope this podcast inspires you to connect with our life-saving and life-healing mission.

  1. 3d ago

    EP 158: A Year After Her Kidney Transplant: Carmelita Jones on Hope, Resilience & the Gift of Life

    A Year After Her Kidney Transplant: Carmelita Jones on Hope, Resilience & the Gift of Life Episode Description:  Before kidney failure changed her life, Carmelita Jones was a socially active casino dealer who loved being around people. But as her health gradually declined, she found herself facing a reality she knew little about: dialysis, long treatments, difficult lifestyle changes, and the uncertainty of waiting for a kidney transplant. Through it all, Carmelita learned to advocate for herself, lean on the people who loved her, and keep moving forward—even on the hardest days. Now, one year after receiving a lifesaving kidney transplant, Carmelita joins This Thing Called Life to share the honest and emotional story behind her journey. She reflects on the people who stood beside her, the importance of staying hopeful and following medical guidance, and the freedom she is beginning to experience again. Her message to anyone waiting for a transplant is simple but powerful: don't give up, take care of yourself, and remember that the right time can bring a new beginning. Episode Highlights Carmelita looks back on life before her diagnosis, when she worked as a casino dealer and enjoyed an active, social lifestyle. She shares how subtle changes in her health gradually led to a diagnosis of kidney failure. Carmelita describes learning about dialysis, undergoing fistula surgery, and adjusting to the physical and emotional demands of treatment. She opens up about the challenges of dialysis, including lengthy sessions, large needles, and the lifestyle changes that came with it. Determined to find a donor, Carmelita became her own advocate, using yard signs, T-shirts, and social media to spread the word about her need for a kidney. She emphasizes how important her support system was, with family and friends accompanying her to treatments and helping her through difficult days. Carmelita recalls receiving the early-morning call that a donor kidney was available and how her sister, Kina Williams, helped get her to the hospital. She explains why she shared parts of her transplant experience on social media: to give others an honest look at the process and offer encouragement to those facing a similar journey. One year after her transplant, Carmelita shares how she is feeling and the changes she has experienced since no longer depending on dialysis. She looks forward to traveling, making memories, and enjoying more time with her family. Carmelita offers advice to people waiting for a transplant: stay hopeful, follow medical guidance, attend appointments, and take care of your health so you remain eligible. She expresses heartfelt gratitude to her donor's family for honoring their loved one's decision to give the gift of life. Carmelita reflects on the importance of self-advocacy, emotional honesty, and finding personal peace during challenging seasons. She encourages anyone facing a difficult health journey to keep going, lean on their support system, and never give up on themselves. Key Takeaways Be your own advocate. Carmelita's experience is a reminder to speak up, ask questions, and take an active role in your health journey. Advocating for yourself can help ensure your needs and concerns are heard. Your support system matters. Family and friends can provide more than practical help. Their presence, encouragement, and companionship can make an overwhelming journey feel less isolating. Keep hope while taking care of yourself. For those waiting for a transplant, Carmelita encourages patience, following medical recommendations, and staying committed to personal well-being. Even during difficult moments, there is reason to keep moving forward. Memorable Moments "You have to advocate for yourself. Nobody's going to hold your hand and do it for you." Carmelita Jones “In the right time, you will get the perfect one for you.” Carmelita Jones “The best decision every day is to make the best day you possibly can.” Carmelita Jones "Sometimes I'm sitting here crying, looking real ugly, but I know that those moments show the real me." Carmelita Jones "Don't give up on yourself... You're no good for anyone if you don't take care of yourself." Carmelita Jones   Resources Donatelifeky.org https://getoffthelist.org/ https://www.networkforhope.org/ https://www.networkforhope.org/about-us/ https://www.networkforhope.org/stories-of-hope/ https://www.facebook.com/NetworkForHopeOPO https://www.youtube.com/@NetworkforHope. https://aopo.org/ RegisterMe.org/NetworkforHope

  2. Oct 20

    EP 156: The Call That Changed Everything: Jon McSorley's Liver Transplant Journey

    The Call That Changed Everything: Jon McSorley's Liver Transplant Journey Episode Description In this episode of This Thing Called Life, Andi Johnson sits down with Jon McSorley, whose diagnosis of primary sclerosing cholangitis (PSC), a serious liver disease, led to a life-threatening medical journey and the need for a liver transplant. While attending a conference in Minnesota, Jon received the call that a donor liver was available. With time running out, his wife, Sarah, and a remarkable group of strangers helped him make the urgent journey home to Cincinnati for an 18-hour transplant surgery. Seven years later, Jon reflects on the uncertainty of waiting, the importance of staying present, and the hope that carried him through his most difficult moments. He shares how his family, medical team, and community supported him along the way—and the profound gratitude he feels for the donor and donor family who gave him a second chance at life. Jon's story is a powerful reminder that organ donation is about more than saving lives. It's about giving people more time with those they love, more milestones to celebrate, and more moments that matter. Episode Highlights Jon shares his diagnosis of primary sclerosing cholangitis (PSC), following a history of inflammatory bowel disease, and how his condition progressed toward cholangiocarcinoma, a type of bile duct cancer. After seeking specialized care at Cleveland Clinic and Mayo Clinic, Jon learned that a liver transplant offered his best chance at survival. While attending a conference in Minnesota, Jon received the life-changing call that a donor liver was available, setting off an urgent journey back to Cincinnati. With the only flight to Cincinnati overbooked, a compassionate Delta employee named Jean stepped in to help. After learning about Jon's medical emergency, 15 to 20 passengers volunteered their seats so he could get home in time for his transplant. Jon shares his decision to accept a liver from a donor with hepatitis C, an opportunity that helped make his transplant possible. Following surgery, Jon received treatment for the infection, which was successfully treated within a month. Jon reflects on the emotional challenges of waiting for a transplant and the advice from his doctors that helped him persevere: "Always have hope" and "be where your feet are." Through chemotherapy, radiation, and the uncertainty of treatment, Jon learned to focus on the present rather than becoming consumed by what might happen next. Seven years after his transplant, Jon is enjoying the moments that matter most, from watching his children play sports and grow to celebrating milestones and making memories together. The conversation explores advances in organ transplantation, including liver perfusion technology and the lifesaving potential of living donation. In a meaningful full-circle moment, Jon shares how his oldest son registered as an organ donor when getting his driver's license, carrying forward the generosity that gave his father a second chance at life. Jon expresses his enduring gratitude for his donor and donor family, recognizing that their extraordinary gift has allowed him more time with the people he loves. Key Takeaways Hope can help you face the unknown. Jon's journey demonstrates the power of holding on to hope, even when the future is uncertain. Through difficult diagnoses, treatment, and waiting for a transplant, hope helped him continue moving forward. Staying present can make difficult moments more manageable. Rather than allowing fear of the future to consume him, Jon embraced the advice to "be where your feet are," focusing on each moment, each treatment, and each step forward. Organ donation gives more than a second chance. Jon's transplant gave him more time to watch his children grow, celebrate milestones, and enjoy the everyday moments that matter most. His story reminds us that the generosity of one donor can create a lasting impact across generations. Memorable Moments On the kindness of strangers: "She put two arms out, and she said, 'We got you.'" — Jon McSorley On the power of hope: "Dr. Shaw kept reiterating to me every visit from that point on, along with Dr. Quillin, to always have hope, always be ready to accomplish anything that comes in front of you. Those two things helped to carry me through that journey." — Jon McSorley On staying present: "To be where your feet are is another aspect that I was trying to live for myself at that time." — Jon McSorley On his donor's extraordinary gift: "But I do have a piece of them within me that continues, and I hope that they know and understand that it's very much appreciated beyond words, beyond action." — Jon McSorley Resources Network For Hope Learn more about the lifesaving impact of organ, tissue and eye donation. https://www.networkforhope.org/ Register as an Organ Donor Make the decision to give hope and potentially save lives. https://registerme.org/NetworkforHope Stories of Hope Discover more inspiring stories of donation, transplantation, and the lives forever changed by generosity. https://www.networkforhope.org/stories-of-hope/ Get Off the List Learn more about the transplant waiting list and the importance of organ donation. https://getoffthelist.org/

  3. Oct 13

    EP 127 Replay: "Legacy in Life and Loss: Adria Johnson on Her Son’s Gift of Hope"

    Title: "Legacy in Life and Loss: Adria Johnson on Her Son’s Gift of Hope" 🎙️ Episode Summary In this powerful and emotional episode of This Thing Called Life, we sit down with Adria Johnson, President and CEO of Metro United Way in Louisville, Kentucky, as she shares the deeply personal story of losing her son, KJ, in a tragic car accident. KJ made the selfless decision to become an organ donor — a choice that gave the gift of life to others even in his passing. Joined by Barry Massa, CEO for Network for Hope, this episode also sheds light on the critical difference between DCD (Donation after Circulatory Death) and brain death, offering clarity and compassion for families navigating organ donation. Together, Adria and Barry bring heart, hope, and understanding to a conversation that touches every aspect of life, love, and legacy.  ✨ Episode Highlights Guests introduced: Host Andi Johnson welcomes Barry Massa and Adria Johnson, who share their experiences with organ donation. Adria’s story: She recounts losing her son, KJ, in a car accident and the remarkable impact of his donation — his heart saved a 36-year-old man, and his kidneys gave two mothers renewed life. Barry’s perspective: He reflects on how KJ’s story fuels his passion for the mission of organ donation and inspires his work every day. Support from COTA: Adria and her family received compassionate care from the Children’s Organ Transplant Association, which walked alongside them during the most difficult moments. KJ’s decision: Paperwork revealed that at just 18 years old, KJ had already elected to be an organ donor, a decision that turned his loss into hope for others. The Honor Walk: KJ’s hospital held a moving ceremony to honor his life and gift of donation, a moment that deeply touched his family. Hospital partnerships: Barry stresses the critical role of strong hospital relationships in ensuring organ donation success. Understanding donation: The episode clearly explains the difference between brain death and DCD. Brain death occurs when all brain function ceases, while DCD is donation after the heart stops — both allowing for organ donation under specific conditions. Family acceptance: Adria shares how she fully supported her son’s decision, finding comfort in his selflessness. Aftercare support: Network for Hope’s Aftercare department provided Adria’s family with ongoing emotional and memorial support, helping them through grief and connection with recipients. Organizational challenges: Barry speaks about recent challenges in the field, including investigations, corrective action plans, and congressional hearings around organ procurement modernization. Medical recommendations: HRSA guidance calls for neuro exams every 12 hours for DCD cases to ensure accurate assessment. 📝 Key Takeaways The power of one decision: At only 18 years old, KJ’s choice to register as an organ donor transformed his tragic passing into a legacy of life, saving and improving the lives of multiple recipients. Compassion and support matter: From COTA’s care to Network for Hope’s Aftercare team, Adria’s family experienced how vital emotional and practical support is for donor families navigating both loss and healing. Education brings clarity and courage: Understanding the differences between brain death and DCD helps families make informed decisions, reduces fear, and fosters greater trust in the organ donation process. 📢 Tweetable Quotes “You know, it was hard enough to prepare to say goodbye to my son and know that KJ would no longer be here, but he had elected at the age of 18 to be an organ donor, unbeknownst to us, and certainly, I consider him probably the premier selfless hero that I will know in my lifetime because of that gift.”  - Adria Johnson “You know, it really takes a lot of dedication, and if you're just in it for a job, you'll never make it. You have to be passionate about the mission.” - Barry Massa “And when that decision was made, what I really appreciated was, again, just the tenderness, the comprehensive way in which they prepared us for all of it, you know, just what needed to take place for the duration of K J's hospital stay.” - Adria Johnson “And very early on in when I became Executive Director of Life Center, before becoming CEO of Network for Hope, I felt like relationships with their hospitals were going to be the key for our success to honor those gifts of donation.” - Barry Massa “ I didn't have any reservations, like I said, from the minute all of this started for us, and even just in being made aware that you know your son did elect to be an organ donor, and if you know that is something you all want to pursue.” - Adria Johnson “I mean, from the minute we had to get through all of that painful episode, and you're now kind of adjusting to life without this person, it was. I mean, just consistent check-ins:  ‘How is your family doing?’ I mean, even the you know, helping us in terms of, ‘do you want to try and have some connectivity with the folks that have been the recipients of his gifts?’ So there's all of that also added an element of support. “ - Adria Johnson on receiving support from the AfterCare Team Resources: Donatelifeky.org https://getoffthelist.org/ https://www.networkforhope.org/ https://www.networkforhope.org/about-us/ https://www.networkforhope.org/stories-of-hope/ https://www.facebook.com/NetworkForHopeOPO https://www.youtube.com/@NetworkforHope. https://aopo.org/ RegisterMe.org/NetworkforHope

  4. Oct 6

    EP 140 Replay: "Strength in Every Generation: Orlando Brown Jr. on Family, Football, and Understanding Type 1 Diabetes"

    Episode Summary Cincinnati Bengals Offensive Lineman Orlando Brown Jr. opens up about his family’s powerful story of resilience and awareness in the face of Type 1 diabetes. After losing his father to diabetic ketoacidosis and supporting his brother through the same diagnosis, Orlando has turned his personal loss into a mission for generational health.  In this episode of This Thing Called Life, Orlando discusses how going through the process of genetic testing, prioritizing dietary choices, and educating his family on the disease has shaped their understanding of health—and why awareness, prevention, and advocacy matter for every family. Episode Highlights Host Andi Johnson welcomes Cincinnati Bengals offensive lineman Orlando Brown Jr. for a meaningful conversation about family, football, and health advocacy. Orlando shares his appreciation for being on the show and talks about continuing his journey with Cincinnati for two more seasons. He explains the story behind his signature fox tail, a tradition that began in college as a good luck charm and has since become part of his identity. Orlando reflects on his unique path to football, including how his father—former NFL player Orlando Brown Sr.—initially did not want him or his siblings to play sports because of the physical risks involved. He shares how, despite that hesitation, his love for football continued to grow, eventually leading him to begin playing in the eighth grade. Orlando talks about how his father later became one of his biggest supporters, helping him develop his game and encouraging his growth as an athlete. The conversation takes a deeper turn as Orlando opens up about his father’s undiagnosed diabetes and the devastating impact it had on his family. He discusses how cultural beliefs, distrust of the medical system, and reliance on home remedies can sometimes delay diagnosis and treatment—especially in communities where medical mistrust has been passed down over time. Orlando also shares his family’s experience with his brother’s Type 1 diabetes diagnosis, and how that moment brought a new level of urgency and awareness to their lives. He emphasizes the importance of early detection, prevention, and education, especially for families who may be at greater risk. Orlando speaks candidly about the steps he now takes to protect his own health, including monitoring his body closely and making intentional lifestyle choices to avoid the same health challenges that affected his family. He shares how supporting his brother and others living with Type 1 diabetes deepened his understanding of the daily realities of the disease. Orlando highlights his advocacy work, including efforts to make insulin more affordable, raise awareness, and support research aimed at prevention and a cure. He discusses participating in preventive testing and trials, using his platform to encourage others to take action before health issues become crises. Orlando also opens up about the meaning behind several of his tattoos, including one honoring his father and another connected to his brother’s diagnosis. He shares the story of one of his most meaningful tattoos—a portrait of his grandfather—and reflects on the powerful influence his grandfather had on his life and values. The episode also touches on Orlando’s commitment to long-term wellness through nutrition. He explains why he hired a full-time nutritionist to help reduce inflammation, improve recovery, and better understand how food affects his body. He talks about preventative health practices, natural remedies, and the importance of using today’s science and resources to avoid the chronic health issues many former athletes face later in life. Orlando closes by speaking about his role on the field, his love for protecting his quarterback, and the importance of being a consistent, vocal leader for his team. Key Takeaways Family health history matters more than many people realize. Orlando’s story is a powerful reminder that understanding your family’s medical history can help you make informed, life-saving decisions earlier. Awareness and early action can change outcomes. From genetic testing to prevention efforts, this episode underscores the importance of paying attention to warning signs and taking proactive steps before a health crisis occurs. Personal pain can become purposeful advocacy. Orlando has transformed his family’s loss and challenges into a mission to educate others, support research, and use his platform to drive meaningful change. Tweetable Quotes “My football story is really unique. My so my dad played in the NFL for 13 years, and he didn't start playing till he was in 11th grade in high school, and his biggest thing for me and my siblings were he didn't want us playing sports.” Orlando Brown Jr. “I would always go to the practices. I kept up with it. So I've always had a real passion for the game of football, but he would not let me play. For him, football is a dark sport in a way, you know, and I've been fortunate in my path to get here, I was drafted, and I've had better opportunities than he did.” Orlando Brown Jr. “Southern black culture isn't, you know, the hospitals and doctors and medicine, it's more about remedies and, you know, things like that. That was my family. Distrust of the medical system.” Orlando Brown Jr. “ It's so important because, you know, as you said, experiencing it firsthand. You know, I always want to make sure that somebody can learn from my mistakes and or my family's mistakes. And that's so important. It's so important to be able to get ahead of it.” Orlando Brown Jr. “I've spent a lot of time, I feel like all over the US. I've gone to the Senate and talked about making insulin more affordable. I've gone to different children's Mercy hospitals across the US and work with them on finding a cure. I've completed the trial net, which is the preventive version of type one, just to make sure you don't have the antibodies.“ Orlando Brown Jr. “My nutritionist does this food test where she's able to tell you what food you can and can't eat that inflames your body.” Orlando Brown Jr.   Resources: Donatelifeky.org https://getoffthelist.org/ https://www.networkforhope.org/ https://www.networkforhope.org/about-us/ https://www.networkforhope.org/stories-of-hope/ https://www.facebook.com/NetworkForHopeOPO https://www.youtube.com/@NetworkforHope. https://aopo.org/ RegisterMe.org/NetworkforHope

  5. Sep 22

    EP 154: Remembering Reco Gunnels: Turning Legacy Into Lifesaving Action

    Episode Title: Remembering Reco Gunnels: Turning Legacy Into Lifesaving Action   Episode Description:  In this powerful episode of THIS THING CALLED Life, host Andi Johnson welcomes Kelly Gunnels, Ashley Smith of Hoxworth Blood Center, and Officer Johnson with the Cincinnati Police Department Community Relations Unit for an inspiring conversation about community, remembrance, and the power of giving. The conversation shines a light on the 8th Annual Reco Gunnels Senior Memorial Blood Drive, taking place September 26, 2026—an event created to honor the life and legacy of Reco Gunnels, who was tragically killed in 2017. Before his passing, Reco often reminded those around him of the importance of “Go Big or Go Home”—a call to be intentional, purposeful, and meaningful in everything he did. Today, that message continues through a community coming together to save lives, build relationships, and turn tragedy into a lasting legacy of service. Join Andi and her guests as they discuss the heart behind the memorial blood drive, the importance of community collaboration, Reco’s impact as a tissue donor, and how one person's message can continue to inspire meaningful action years later. Episode Highlights Andi Johnson introduces the episode and explores the importance of community through the story of the Reco Gunnels Senior Memorial Blood Drive. Kelly Gunnels shares the personal story behind the memorial blood drive and her desire to honor her brother Reco, who was tragically killed in 2017. Kelly reflects on Reco’s personality, his commitment to community, and the meaning behind his familiar message: “Go Big or Go Home.” The guests discuss how the annual blood drive has grown into a community tradition that turns remembrance into meaningful action. Kelly shares how Reco became a tissue donor and how his donation has continued to make a difference, including through his cornea and ongoing research. Ashley Smith of Hoxworth explains how mobile blood drives bring donation opportunities directly into local communities and help make blood donation part of everyday community life. The conversation highlights why maintaining a strong blood supply before an emergency happens is so important. Officer Anthony Johnson discusses the Cincinnati Police Department’s Community Relations Unit and its efforts to build relationships with residents and support crime victims and their families. The guests discuss how community events can create opportunities to celebrate life, strengthen relationships, and provide education beyond moments of tragedy. The conversation highlights the importance of bringing organ and tissue donation education into communities, particularly communities of color. Kelly shares why she believes people should know their health numbers, including blood pressure, and take changes in their health seriously. The guests discuss the importance of talking with family members about organ and tissue donation decisions before a crisis occurs. Kelly also shares about her book, A Widow’s Guide, and how her experiences with grief, trauma, faith, and healing have shaped her desire to help others. The episode highlights the upcoming 8th Annual Reco Gunnels Senior Memorial Blood Drive, taking place September 26, 2026, at the Holloman Center, 3539 Reading Road, Cincinnati. Hoxworth currently lists the event as a memorial blood drive and notes that the donor bus will be located at the Holloman Center. Dr. Calhoun from UC College of Medicine will also be part of the event, helping provide education and demonstrations related to lifesaving practices. Kelly, Ashley, and Officer Johnson reflect on how Reco’s story continues to bring people together and create opportunities to serve others. The conversation closes with a powerful reminder that legacy is not only about how someone is remembered—it is also about what their life inspires others to do. Key Takeaways 1. Legacy can become a source of service. Reco’s life was tragically cut short, but his family has chosen to honor his memory by creating opportunities for others to give, serve, and make a difference. 2. Community participation can save lives. Blood donations are an essential part of caring for patients during medical emergencies, surgeries, cancer treatment, and other critical situations. Hoxworth notes that blood cannot be manufactured and depends on volunteer donors. 3. Conversations about donation matter. Making an informed decision about organ, tissue, and eye donation—and sharing that decision with loved ones—can help families understand and honor a person's wishes during an incredibly difficult time. Tweetable Quotes “Finally, got a letter from Katie saying how many people were blessed around the world, not just in the United States, around the world from Reco's donation and how his cornea is still being used for research today for blindness.” Kelly Gunnels “You know, with these mobile blood drives, we can come into the community and literally be a part of it, even if it is just for a few hours. But then, maybe people remember.” Ashley Smith “But if people hear Reco's story and that you know Kelly's a donor, and that he had checked that box to be a donor himself. That he'll just remember that it does take those volunteer blood donors to get that blood on the shelf and make sure it's there when that tragedy does happen.” Ashley Smith “We know how important this is for Reco because his story doesn't end on that day. It goes beyond that.” Officer Johnson “So get your numbers. Know what they are. Get checked. If you're having heart palpitations, you're having something going on. Go to the doctor, go get checked. Don't take it for granted that it's just anxiety.” Kelly Gunnels Event Information 8th Annual Reco Gunnels Senior Memorial Blood Drive Date: Saturday, September 26, 2026 Location: Holloman Center, 3539 Reading Road, Cincinnati, OH 45229 Blood Drive: Hoxworth Blood Center donor bus Hoxworth's current event listing confirms the September 26 memorial blood drive at the Holloman Center. Appointments are encouraged for blood drives, although availability for walk-ins may vary. Additional episode notes: Reco's twin brother, Ramone Gunnels, also helps Kelly with the memorial event. Kelly's book is A Widow's Guide by KRV Gunnels. Resources: Donatelifeky.org https://getoffthelist.org/ https://www.networkforhope.org/ https://www.networkforhope.org/about-us/ https://www.networkforhope.org/stories-of-hope/ https://www.facebook.com/NetworkForHopeOPO https://www.youtube.com/@NetworkforHope. https://aopo.org/ RegisterMe.org/NetworkforHope

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This Thing Called Life is a podcast dedicated to acts of giving, kindness, compassion, and humanity. Host Andi Johnson introduces you to powerful organ, tissue, and eye donation stories from individuals, families, and front-line healthcare teams. These stories are meant to inspire and remind you that while life can be challenging and unpredictable, it’s also incredibly beautiful. We hope this podcast inspires you to connect with our life-saving and life-healing mission.