Re-visioning Religion

Jonas Atlas

Conversations on the intersection of spirituality and politics, shedding a new light on the place of religion in society.

  1. Navigating Truth Between Woo-woo and Scientism

    09/02/2025

    Navigating Truth Between Woo-woo and Scientism

    A few weeks ago, I paid a visit to the renowned biologist Rupert Sheldrake. He’s been on my show before, but those conversations were all recorded online. So when I found myself in London for a couple of days this summer, I dropped by his place for a cup of tea. Finally meeting in person, we started off just catching up—talking about our lives and some shared interests. After a while the conversation also turned to some of the bigger challenges we face today in humanity’s collective search for truth on the intersection of spirituality and science. That seemed like a topic that might be of interest for a wider public, so I decided to record that part of our conversation. And I’m glad I did. Considering Rupert’s personal history, few people seem more suited to discuss some of the issues that the so called ‘post truth era’ confronts us with. On one hand, he’s spent decades pushing the boundaries of biology, life, and consciousness, despite fierce opposition from hardline skeptics who dismiss anything that challenges the orthodoxy of mechanistic materialism. On the other hand, he’s always remained a scientist at heart. Even as his work gained traction in spiritual circles, he did not start catering to a more woo-woo spirituality that bases itself merely on intuition or personal experience. Even when exploring topics like telepathy or other paranormal phenomena, his approach always remained grounded in research. So, I was wondering: what can we learn from Rupert’s lifelong journey? How did he manage to stay balanced in his pursuit of truth? How might his approach help us navigate these confusing times, in which we are constantly bombarded with competing ideas, theories, and truth claims? It’s not always easy to separate the solid and the genuinely interesting from the flimsy and the nonsensical—but maybe some of Rupert’s strategies can inspire us to do just that. --- For Rupert's website: https://www.sheldrake.org/ For his substack page: https://rupertsheldrake.substack.com/ And for his podcast: https://www.sheldrake.org/audios/navigating-consciousness-podcast

    1h 3m
  2. Storytelling, myth and the contemporary revival of idealism

    05/27/2025

    Storytelling, myth and the contemporary revival of idealism

    Kevin P. Keating is a teacher of English literature at several colleges and universities. He's also a prize-winning fiction author. Jonas invited him for a conversation after reading his latest book Bridge of Dreams. Kevin's book brings together three interrelated short stories of magical realism. He places his characters in seemingly mundane settings and gradually lets them experience a journey through wonder and mystery. Themes like religion, reincarnation, psychedelics, spiritual transformation are constantly present in the background. As such, Jonas saw an opportunity to discuss religion and contemporary spirituality from the perspective of storytelling. Are humans inherently 'story creating creatures', and can religions be seen as the inevitable result of the story telling impulse? Is the supposedly 'secular' world not just yet another form of storytelling and, in that sense, as religious? How do we assess the work op Joseph Campbell in all of this? Has a truncated and commercialized version of his monomyth of the hero become the dominant religious story? How can we breach the dominance of that particular way of telling stories in a culture that has become so accustomed to them? How can we come up with new types of stories that allow more room for the contemporary revival of idealism? What would 'idealist myths' look like? And what about the use of psychedelics in trying to find new stories? Might they be pivotal in creating new stories or do they blind us to unconscious stories we haven't sufficiently faced? --- For more on Kevin's book Bridge of Dreams: https://www.collectiveinkbooks.com/iff-books/our-books/bridge-dreams-novel And for his website: https://kevinpkeating.blogspot.com/

    1h 42m
  3. The nature of the cosmic mind

    01/09/2024

    The nature of the cosmic mind

    Both Rupert Sheldrake and Bernardo Kastrup are outspoken critics of mechanical materialism. In previous episodes, I already had a conversation with Bernardo Kastrup about his philosophical idealism and how that might influence our view of religion. With Rupert I had an in-depth dialogue about the seven secular myths about religion. However, I was surprised to find out that there were no recordings of the two of them discussing one of their core interests together: consciousness and its relation to the formation of reality. So, I reached out to them and proposed to moderate a talk about the overlaps and divergences in their views. In a sense, this led to a logical follow-up to our previous conversations, since we moved our focus from ‘religion’ to ‘God.’ That is to say, we engagaged in a discussion on the divine essence of existence. Casting a new light on age-old philosophical debates, the conversation explored the inherent consciousness underlying all reality in its deepest depths and highest heights. Rupert and Bernardo reinforced as well as nuanced each other’s perspectives, with a thought-provoking dialogue about the nature of the cosmic mind as a result. For a video version of this conversation: https://youtu.be/Wi1U7Cw4XV0?si=fyXxoTP0mDult2Bt For the previous episode with Bernardo Kastrup: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/re-visioning-religion/episodes/An-idealist-perspective-on-God-and-religion-e1k4cs9/a-a84m765 And for Jonas' earlier conversation with Rupert: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/re-visioning-religion/episodes/Bonus-the-seven-secular-myths-about-religion-e28i54o -----   For more on Bernardo and his work: https://www.bernardokastrup.com/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeDZCa3VrRQvzBlVR-oVVmA https://www.essentiafoundation.org/ https://www.youtube.com/@essentiafoundation ---   For more on Rupert and his work: https://www.sheldrake.org/ https://www.youtube.com/@RupertSheldrakePhD https://www.facebook.com/RupertSheldrake

    1h 18m

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Conversations on the intersection of spirituality and politics, shedding a new light on the place of religion in society.