The Inclusive AF Podcast

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Welcome to the Inclusive AF Podcast, your go-to destination for all things DEI, HR, and workplace inclusivity. Hosted by two BFFs with a combined decades of experience in the people space, Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton, this podcast is where candid conversations meet insightful, actionable strategies. Together, they dive deep into the complex (and often messy) world of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, exploring how to build workplaces that are not just diverse, but truly inclusive. Katee is a dynamic Chief People Officer and DEI thought leader at WebPros, dedicated to shaping inclusive corporate cultures that empower underrepresented groups. With expertise in global HR strategy, leadership development, and talent management, Katee brings a wealth of knowledge—and a sense of humor—to every episode. Jackye, a seasoned HR tech and DEI professional, has spent over 15 years driving transformative change in the workplace. A connector at heart, she blends innovation, empathy, and data to craft inclusive work environments that thrive on diverse perspectives. Whether discussing the latest HR trends or sharing stories of workplace triumphs and struggles, Jackye’s unique approach adds a bold, refreshing take to the conversation. Together, Katee and Jackye have built a podcast that is as insightful as it is entertaining, with their signature banter and lighthearted humor making complex topics feel accessible and fun. Expect a mix of practical advice, personal stories, and monthly guest appearances from industry leaders and change-makers. Whether you're an HR professional, a DEI champion, or simply someone passionate about creating better workplaces, Inclusive AF is the podcast that’ll inspire, challenge, and make you laugh. Tune in weekly for a fresh take on creating workplaces where everyone can show up as their true, authentic selves.

  1. 1D AGO

    Actionable Paths to Racial Equity and Belonging in Business with Hugues Sygney Jr.

    Welcome to The Inclusive AF Podcast! In this powerful episode, hosts Jackye Clayton & Katee Van Horn sit down with Hugues Sygney Jr. for an inspiring conversation about justice, equity, and how businesses can create true impact in their communities—with a special focus on the B Corp movement. We dig deep into what it means for a company to be a force for good, the transformative role of B Corps, and the real-life programs making generational change—like fair wages, open hiring, and wealth-building initiatives that are shifting legacies. You’ll also hear about the importance of the JEDI framework (Justice, Equity, Diversity, and Inclusion), climate justice, and practical steps that HR leaders and business owners can start using today. Whether you’re an HR professional, passionate about DEI, or curious how your everyday choices as a consumer or leader can ripple into meaningful change—this episode is for you. Don’t miss the insightful stories, practical advice, and uplifting discussions on how we each can make an impact in our organizations and beyond. Listen, learn, and join the movement toward true inclusion and business for good! #Bcorp #InclusiveAF #JusticeAndEquity #WorkplaceInclusion #DiversityAndInclusion #HRLeaders #DEIB #ClimateJustice #Podcast #BusinessForGood #GenerationalWealth #Belonging #CommunityImpact #Leadership #CareerDevelopment 👉 If you enjoyed this episode, don’t forget to LIKE, COMMENT, and SUBSCRIBE for more conversations that will inspire and challenge you! If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF

    1h 5m
  2. 12/18/2025

    Making Job Hunting Human Again with Michael Wenning @ HR Tech2025

    Get ready for an eye-opening episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast! Hosts Katee Van Horn and Robin Schooling sit down with special guest Michael Wenning, HR tech innovator, to dive deep into the realities of modern job searching, hiring bias, and how technology is reshaping the candidate experience. Discover why Michael Wenning believes the current job application process is broken, how his new app "Passive" aims to put candidates back in the driver’s seat, and what companies can do to truly find (and keep) great talent. From personal recruiting horror stories to the importance of workplace culture and the need for more human-centric hiring, this episode doesn’t hold back. Expect candid stories, sharp insights on diversity and inclusion, and practical advice for both job seekers and HR leaders. Whether you’re in HR, a tech enthusiast, or someone frustrated by endless online applications, this episode is for you! Don’t forget to LIKE, SUBSCRIBE, and hit the bell so you never miss an Inclusive AF moment! #HRTech #JobSearch #DiversityAndInclusion #HiringBias #PassiveApp #Recruiting #WorkplaceCulture #InclusiveAF #CareerTips #TechForGood If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF

    26 min
  3. 11/25/2025

    What Happens When Public Welfare Programs Get Gutted with Katee & Jackye

    Get ready for another thought-provoking episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, hosted by Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton! In this episode, Jackye dives into the real impact of recent government layoffs — especially those hitting the CDC and Department of Education. Are these cuts really about "fiscal responsibility," or is there something deeper going on? Join the conversation as Jackye discusses how these decisions affect marginalized communities, civil rights, worker safety, mental health, and social services. From privatization of public services to budget priorities and the downstream effects on everyday lives, this episode challenges viewers to stay informed, speak up, and advocate for inclusion and compassion. Plus, stick around for some lighter moments and favorite snacks — because caring for each other takes many forms. Whether you're in HR, leadership, or just passionate about making the world a better place, this episode is a must-watch! 👇 Drop your thoughts in the comments and let us know how these issues are affecting your community! #InclusiveAF #DEI #GovernmentLayoffs #CivilRights #WorkerSafety #MentalHealthMatters #SocialJustice #Podcast #HR #Inclusion #SpeakUp #StayInformed If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF

    24 min
  4. 11/20/2025

    When Company Culture Fails: The Hidden Signals Leaders Send Every Day with Dr. Bobby Melloy

    Welcome to The Inclusive AF Podcast! In this thought-provoking episode, Dr. Bobby Melloy and Jackye Clayton dive deep into the changing landscape of workplace culture, the science behind organizational psychology, and the impact of AI in HR. Joined by special guest Bobby Malloy from Culture Amp, we explore real stories about leadership signals, psychological safety, burnout, generational divides, and the challenges facing marginalized groups in today's work environment. Whether you’re an HR professional, people leader, or just passionate about building a more inclusive workplace, this episode is packed with insights, expert advice, and some seriously candid conversation. Expect laughs, relatable moments (including a must-hear Amazing Race revelation!), and actionable takeaways for creating workplaces where everyone can thrive. 👍 If you’re ready to rethink the work world, hit LIKE, SUBSCRIBE, and join the Inclusive AF community! #dei #InclusiveAF #HRTech #WorkplaceCulture #PeopleScience #OrganizationalPsychology #DEI #PsychologicalSafety #Leadership #CultureAmp #AIinHR #CareerAdvice #Burnout #GenerationalWorkplace #AmazingRace #Inclusion #Podcast Watch now and tell us in the comments: What signals are YOU sending in your workplace? If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF

    48 min
  5. 10/27/2025

    Radical Generosity and Rethinking Competition: Insights from Ruchika Malhotra on Inclusive AF

    Welcome to another thought-provoking episode of the Inclusive AF Podcast with hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn! In this episode, we’re thrilled to welcome inclusion strategist and author Ruchika T. Malhotra, who dives deep into her groundbreaking books, including "Inclusion on Purpose" and her latest work, "Uncompete." Ruchika shares powerful insights into why competition isn’t always the answer—challenging the status quo and inspiring us to rethink how we work, lead, and collaborate. From radical generosity and the value of personal storytelling to how we can drive true inclusion in our workplaces and beyond, this conversation is packed with real talk, practical advice, and eye-opening moments. If you’re passionate about DEI, organizational culture, or simply want to make your workplace a better place for everyone, this episode is a must-listen! Hear real stories, actionable tips, and bold ideas that you can take back to your team. 👉 Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more honest conversations at the intersection of inclusion, equity, and leadership. #InclusiveAF #DEI #Uncompete #InclusionOnPurpose #RuchikaTulshyan #WorkplaceInclusion #HR #Leadership #DiversityAndInclusion #RadicalGenerosity #Podcast Connect with Us: - Find Ruchika on LinkedIn and check out her new book "Uncompete" (out November 4th)! - Follow Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn for more inclusive conversations. - Tap into the power of inclusion—hit play and join the conversation! If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF

    52 min
  6. 10/16/2025

    Navigating Chaos by Design: HR’s Role in Social Equity and Generational Wealth w/ Ashley & Desiree

    🔥 NEW EPISODE ALERT! 🔥 Welcome to another unapologetically real episode of the Inclusive AF Podcast with your hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn! This time, they’re joined by Desiree Goldey and Ashley King, powerhouse co-hosts of the Talentless podcast, for a candid, thought-provoking discussion about the state of work, HR, and social justice. Get ready as they break down: - Why HR and Talent Acquisition are the true economic gatekeepers and drivers of generational wealth - The all-too-real trickle-down of politics into everyday work culture - How chaos and distraction are “by design”—and why that matters more now than ever - The everyday choices HR professionals can make to actually shift the wealth gap and promote equity - What it means to pay people what they’re worth, and why negotiating salaries can be a form of social justice It’s raw, it’s hilarious, and it speaks bold truths about being human at work in 2024. Whether you’re in HR, recruiting, or just care about how people are treated at work—this is a must-listen! 👂 Listen, learn, and walk away ready to ACT. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and drop your thoughts in the comments! #InclusiveAF #InclusiveAFPodcast #HRPodcast #SocialJustice #Equity #TalentlessPodcast #WorkplaceDiversity #PayEquity #HRCommunity #Leadership #HumanResources #Recruiting #JackyeClayton #KateeVanHorn #DesireeGoldey #AshleyKing #HRTechConf ➡️ Want more real talk? Check out more episodes or connect with us on social @InclusiveAFpodcast! If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF

    38 min
  7. 10/02/2025

    Navigating AI Adoption in HR: From Shiny Tools to Meaningful Workforce Planning w/ Sarah & Sofia

    Ready to transform your HR strategy for the future of work? In this episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, host Katee Van Horn sits down with Sophia Whelan and Sarah Smart, co-founders of Horizon Human, for an honest, insightful discussion about the evolving landscape of HR and Talent Acquisition in the age of AI. Sophia and Sarah bring their expertise from top global organizations to break down how HR can drive trust, equity, and innovation—without falling for every "shiny" tech object. Discover why human-centered design matters more than ever, how to prepare your HR teams for the AI revolution, and the real impact of new regulations across the US and EU. You’ll hear actionable strategies on: - Identifying true pain points in HR processes - Implementing AI ethically and effectively - Building trust and transparency in organizations - The crucial skills HR must prioritize for the future - Real-world examples of team-level AI innovation - Ensuring the candidate and employee experience remain front and center If you’re an HR leader, practitioner, or just passionate about creating more inclusive workplaces through technology, you won’t want to miss this conversation! Find Horizon Human here: https://www.horizonhuman.com/ 👉 Don’t forget to Like, Comment, and Subscribe for more candid conversations on inclusion, the future of work, and all things HR! #HRStrategy #FutureOfWork #AIinHR #InclusiveWorkplace #HRLeadership #TrustInOrganizations #WorkforcePlanning #HumanCentricDesign #TalentAcquisition #EmployeeExperience #DEI #HorizonHuman #InclusiveAFPocast Listen now and level up your HR game! If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF

    52 min
  8. 09/24/2025

    HR Tech 2025: The Future of Retention Through Peer-Driven Recognition with Curtis Forbes

    🎸 How can we make EVERYONE feel seen at work—while actually driving retention and business results? On this episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, Katee Van Horn sits down with the dynamic Curtis Forbes (he/him)—former jazz musician, serial entrepreneur, and founder of Mustard Hub—to jam about transforming workplace culture, recognition, and DEI through tech. Curtis shares his unique journey from the jazz stage to launching an AI-powered employee engagement platform and dives into: - What it means to truly "feel seen" at work - How peer-driven recognition (not just top-down!) drives retention—especially for underrepresented voices - Avoiding the recognition “blind spot” that leaves diverse contributions unnoticed - How predictive analytics and AI can pinpoint burnout, turnover risk, and even opportunities for growth - Success stories in education and private equity that saved $$$ and improved culture - Why building intentionally inclusive cultures is a MUST for all organizations, big or small! If you’re an HR leader, people manager, DEI advocate, or just curious about the future of recognition tech, this episode will give you tools, ideas, and inspiration for your workplace. Don’t miss Curtis’ HR Tech sneak peeks, real-world impact stats, and fun stories from the world of jazz and karaoke! 👇 Drop your experiences, questions, and favorite recognition wins in the comments! 📍 Want to demo Mustard Hub at HR Tech? Find them at booth 6414 A N M. #InclusiveAF #DEI #HRTech #EmployeeEngagement #WorkplaceCulture #Recognition #Retention #FutureOfWork #PeopleAnalytics #AI #HRTech2024 If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF

    42 min
5
out of 5
29 Ratings

About

Welcome to the Inclusive AF Podcast, your go-to destination for all things DEI, HR, and workplace inclusivity. Hosted by two BFFs with a combined decades of experience in the people space, Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton, this podcast is where candid conversations meet insightful, actionable strategies. Together, they dive deep into the complex (and often messy) world of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, exploring how to build workplaces that are not just diverse, but truly inclusive. Katee is a dynamic Chief People Officer and DEI thought leader at WebPros, dedicated to shaping inclusive corporate cultures that empower underrepresented groups. With expertise in global HR strategy, leadership development, and talent management, Katee brings a wealth of knowledge—and a sense of humor—to every episode. Jackye, a seasoned HR tech and DEI professional, has spent over 15 years driving transformative change in the workplace. A connector at heart, she blends innovation, empathy, and data to craft inclusive work environments that thrive on diverse perspectives. Whether discussing the latest HR trends or sharing stories of workplace triumphs and struggles, Jackye’s unique approach adds a bold, refreshing take to the conversation. Together, Katee and Jackye have built a podcast that is as insightful as it is entertaining, with their signature banter and lighthearted humor making complex topics feel accessible and fun. Expect a mix of practical advice, personal stories, and monthly guest appearances from industry leaders and change-makers. Whether you're an HR professional, a DEI champion, or simply someone passionate about creating better workplaces, Inclusive AF is the podcast that’ll inspire, challenge, and make you laugh. Tune in weekly for a fresh take on creating workplaces where everyone can show up as their true, authentic selves.